"Crono and Marle are killed in the invasion" 1. lay down 2. try not to cry 3. cry a lot

@darrellgoudeau7642

8 жыл бұрын

+Nacho Overlord HOW DID THEY GET KILLED THOUGH LIKE THEY BEAT A INTERDEMENSIONAL MONSTER WHO DESTROYS PLANETS AND THEY CAN USE MAGIC

@Deadganon

8 жыл бұрын

+darrell goudeau Maybe dalton had something to do with it cuz i tend to find that normal soldiers killing them is kind of.....meh Actually u know why they died, cuz they didnt get the player buff which increases their strength and abilities by 1000 times when the player is around.... well we werent around at the time... RIP xD

@RoyFlush716

8 жыл бұрын

I just don't get why they offed the entire cast of Trigger? I mean, it's not like they needed voice actors to reprise their roles or something. They are digital characters with text dialogue. Why kill them all in exchange for this incomprehensible mess of a "plot"??

@Deadganon

8 жыл бұрын

Omar Khatib maybe cuz if chrono and the gang did survive then we would question on why dont they just go out on another adventure to save time, etc. If the gang could kill lavos one time then another time should be simple.... but that is just a theory

@Cold_Zero_The_Wise

8 жыл бұрын

a game theory

I like how Crono can kill planet-feasting space parasites but gets killed by Porrean soldiers.

@Kopie0830

7 жыл бұрын

It was his honeymoon, he was deep in uhh... another thing... Another sword was being used hehehehe.

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's true, i think Chrono and Marle are not dead, but they lose the kingdom and then they have to live as completely unknown people.

@Cahutalama

7 жыл бұрын

I would argue they are dead, simply because you meet their ghosts in the dead sea, and before the final battle. I mean, you don't really go into a hostile takeover of a kingdom and not kill the royalty. +Kopie The invasion was 5 years after their marriage, so I doubt they waited that long for their honeymoon, but if the attack happened at night..... yeah you might still be right.

@fritzdymond1950

6 жыл бұрын

seriously, he can cast luminaire

@AsuraDandy

6 жыл бұрын

you gotta remember guys, if you don't actually see their death's on screen, their life is left to the author, this is so that it isn't definite whether they are alive or dead, so that they have more material for a possible sequel that may be made. If they ever do get around to that, they at least have the possibility to use Chrono once again.

Played Chrono Cross 10 yrs ago and Chrono Trigger some 7 yrs ago. At 06:22 when I heard "Confused yet? It's about to get a whole lot worse" I've paused the video and went for a smoke break.

Crono saves the world - Gets killed 5 years later. Serge saves the world(s) - Doesn't remember anything. Seriously, not even a THANKS? XD This series really treats its heroes like shit. (I still love the stories either way, though)

@MikeBNumba6

8 жыл бұрын

+Tushant Mirchandani (Cyan Los) I literally just beat the game for the first time 10mins ago and I was depressed how that ended. Not only he, but his girlfriend had no idea what happened.

@zunnoab

8 жыл бұрын

+Tushant Mirchandani (Cyan Los) The thing about him losing his memory that really matters too is that a whole subplot of the game is Serge learning what it's like to experience the discrimination the demihumans face when he's walking around in Lynx's body. Those lessons would be lost if he forgot everything... unless through mystical mumbo jumbo it still has an effect on him.

@PandaXclone2

8 жыл бұрын

+Tushant Mirchandani (Cyan Los) At the very least it's implied that whatever bad shiz happened after Trigger's plot get's resolved with the timelines merging by the end of Cross. Even if Crono died in one timeline he would still end up as part of the unified one, perhaps with memories of the other timeline.

@metalmess

8 жыл бұрын

+Tushant Mirchandani (Cyan Los) serge saves the world. Get's stuck with a bossy bitchy girlfriend

@PandaXclone2

8 жыл бұрын

Metaless Araya Hey! Kid is cool... :(

This game needs to be on the list of greatest gaming mindfucks.

@joshwalters3148

4 жыл бұрын

More like greatest game buttfucks....

@slusheewolf2143

3 жыл бұрын

Wasn't it directed by the same guy who made Xenogears? Get to the end of Disc 1 of Xenogears and holy crap. The game literally admits that it lied to you the entire time.

@TheSlammurai

2 жыл бұрын

Along with Metal Gear Solid series and Kingdom Hearts series.

@malik87breaker

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSlammurai Kingdom Hearts isn't smart. lol

@krimsonkatt

2 жыл бұрын

@@slusheewolf2143 No. After Xenogears Takahashi went on to make the Xenosaga Trilogy on PS2 and then the Xenoblade Chronicles series for Nintendo. Xenogears was originally meant to be a sequel to Chrono Trigger but was changed to be an original entry later on in development. Chrono Cross was made much later at the tail end of the PS1's life, and took some elements from Xenogears for it's plot. The guy who wrote Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross was a co-director for Xenogears though. You're probably thinking of that. Also, Xenogears never "lies to you." The last third of the game just isn't finished so the majority of the second disk is just cutscenes and reading due to budget and time constraints. The plot is conseise from beginning to end. It's not like "lol it was all a dream" and wakes you up from the game going into a completely different game for the second half. Heck, I don't even think a game ever does that besides Incryption and Petscop but Petscop is more of an ARG/Analog horror series than an actual game.

We need to go back in time and convince Hironobou sagacuchi not to leave square.

@baconatorrodriguez4651

2 жыл бұрын

Chrono Cross twist: Sakaguchi forces Square to make a second FF movie, sinking the company entirely after the company barely surviving his first film.

@armorvil

2 жыл бұрын

It wasn't exactly his choice though. You don't leave the head of such a company willingly. He put Square in a bad spot because his very expensive movie failed, so he had to take responsibility - especially towards share-holders. Basically, he had no choice but to leave.

@krimsonkatt

2 жыл бұрын

@@armorvil The Spirits Within only failed because it just wasn't Final Fantasy. The technology was very impressive especially for the time (it was like 2001. 4 years ago they had FF7 graphics. BTW 4 years ago from now God of War 2018 released) but the movie failed because it was called final fantasy while having nothing final fantasy about it. It was a generic animated sci-fi movie with a forgetful plot and terrible voice acting. If it was actually, you know, FINAL FANTASY with crystals and magic and job classes and chocobos and moogles and crap it could have been amazing and would have done way better in the box office. It probably would have been a net loss due to how expensive the movie was to make (they weren't making it back unless they made "Avatar" numbers) but it wouldn't be as big of a failure if the movie was actually good and embodied what made Final Fantasy unique. Even an adaptation of one of the game's plots would have worked. I would love to see a CGi retelling of FFIV or FFVI, or even FF1. But they instead did this weird sci fi crap that had nothing to do with final fantasy and it blew up in their face. Like, the Sonic film trilogy isn't anything special, but at least the movies embody the spirit of the games. You can even say they actually do it better than the games due to how crap recent Sonic games have been. The Final Fantasy movie should have done something similar. Maybe then it wouldn't have failed. Square has just been completely bombing recently. The sold Tomb Raider, literally their biggest franchise in sales, (Tomb Raider 2014 is their second bestselling game of all time only after FFVII) to invest in NFTs. And this was AFTER the Etherium crash where the value of ALL NFTs was lowered by 95%. I wouldn't be surprised if Square starts selling off even more of their IPs to other companies to save face after their numerous failed investments. Selling Xenogears and Chrono to Nintendo would be the best thing that happened to those franchises since 2001. SE has released like 6 failed live service games in the last year and a half. With how expensive those games are to make, they must be BLEEDING CASH, even more so with their insane investments into the NFT market which is practicly dead at this point. FFXIV is the only thing keeping them alive at this point.

I've been playing through Chrono Cross again recently and thought I remembered the plot. My god you've done a charitable service.

@roosgambino

8 жыл бұрын

how the hell do you remember this games plot

@ninjasktho9552

8 жыл бұрын

magic and miracles.

@ivannanto

7 жыл бұрын

I think it is because of the Chrono Cross as he could combine all complexity into one integrated explanation...

@ALLmasked

6 жыл бұрын

Its weird that people really love this game but only remember very vague bits of it.

@victuz

5 жыл бұрын

This is a godsend.

chrono cross should won the most complicated JRPG story of all time, thanks for the explanation after 15years lol

@heichiro091

7 жыл бұрын

nope, that would apply to Nomura's Kingdom Hearts series

@tsukasa0802

7 жыл бұрын

+heichiro09 IMHO that should be Xenogears.

@relafen66

6 жыл бұрын

Yo final fantasy does this every time I nominate them

@neogeo5673

6 жыл бұрын

Xenogears best smd

@ontos8534

6 жыл бұрын

Cross, xenogears and KH are all kinda tied

So Chrono, Lucca, Marle and Robo dies, and magus looses his memory. And we have to kill Harle with our own hands Fuking game man....

@jadonlong925

4 жыл бұрын

AND Frog loses the Masamune

@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342

3 жыл бұрын

And some folks thought that the last of us franchise was depressing lol. Chrono franchise be like... EVERYONE gets effed over by time...

@amsgame7148

2 жыл бұрын

That is ONLY until Serge and Co. defeat the TIme Devourer. Once they do, they recombine the dimensions into one; Lynx/Fate, the Dragon Gods, and the Dream Devourer no longer exist. So, the events of Trigger still happened, but Kid lives a peaceful life with Lucca. Chrono and Marle get to live their lives peacefully and so does Serge.

porre had like 3 ppl.... how did they become a military power

@yisus6552

8 жыл бұрын

Dalton, the prick from Zeal, appears there and raises an army.

@very_unoriginal_name1714

8 жыл бұрын

I like Dalton because literally his actions lead to the greatest in the end. #1, he remodeled the Epoch so that it can fly. This is needed for side quests which contribute to the story. #2, in Crimson Echoes, he goes after the artifacts.

@victuz

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks to that crazy bastard commander.

@SierraGustafson

5 жыл бұрын

Dalton is like the Desaix of CT/CC. Speaking of which, how did Dalton lose the Masamune after he took over Guardia?

@SycosenMerihem

5 жыл бұрын

@@SierraGustafson The Masamune was corrupted by the Invasion of Guardia. It caused a spiral of death with many great men seeking after it for fame, glory and acceptance.

Someone may have already said this but killing Serge didn't release the lock, it perma locked the use of the frozen flame since Serge was still the arbiter. This is why Fate went through the trouble of sending Lynx to Lucca's orphanage to try to eliminate the Prometheus circuit and then to Home World Serge. It's why Lynx swapped bodies with Serge so that the system would recognize Fate as the arbiter in Serge body. Remember that Lynx is now the organic incarnation of Fate. After the lock was released in this fashion, that was the vulnerability Fate needed to eliminate the circuit so the lock mechanic would never happen again, though it ultimately didn't matter with Serge destroying Fate. There's other arguable things in this video but this point stood out the most to me to be worth mentioning

@luket.7468

6 ай бұрын

Thank you sir, that was one of my outstanding questions!!

One detail that should be emphasized here is that even though the Dragon God was defeated and the Dragons were seemingly obedient to FATE, they secretly wished to overturn FATE, which is why they secretly created Harle, a clone of Kid, as their own agent. It's also why Harle helps Serge out after he got turned into Lynx.

@punxsongsrules

5 жыл бұрын

why is she with linx tho? like linx is the puppet of FATE and harle the puppet of the dragons, why would she help her burn the orphan down?

@Sage8981

5 жыл бұрын

@@punxsongsrules Because Lynx IS the personification of FATE, not a puppet. Harle working with FATE keeps her close to the Flame for the opportunity to snatch it.

@Enuocale

5 жыл бұрын

Also, this video leaves out one more important point. At some point (?) the dragon gods were absorbed by the time devourer. So their presence in the present is only still there because the time devourer saw them as useful to try to get rid of you. This plot point is rather bizarre, seeing as how had they not been eaten by the time devourer they likely would have done the same thing.

I like the last bit about Schala walking around "our" world during the credits. The imagery's meaning always seemed lost to me, but that makes a lot of sense.

Wow, it's a shame the game is only recognized today for its monumental soundtrack.

@Poetabrasileiro

8 жыл бұрын

+Trung Nguyen The Soundtrack is damn good, there is not shame on that... o-o Due to subjectivity, k'now, people having different opinions and all that, the story is not for everyone, but really everyone no matter the stance on storyline can admit the music is great!

@PandaXclone2

8 жыл бұрын

It's kinda understandable as stories like this can be too much to follow properly without tripping up a little. Hell, I like these kinds of stories and it still took some time to piece it together. This is especially apparent when it's already throwing dimensional timeline stuff on top of Trigger's story, retroactively also making whatever change you do in Trigger's story a different timeline altogether. For some people they can't quite wrap their head around time travel let alone timeline travel, as there are a few models out there that go under certain rules (e.g. Paradox time-travel, Timeline time-travel, ect) that don't mesh together which adds to the confusion of trying to understand it. tl;dr Cross' story is pretty good but it's understandable that the plot may prove a bit too much for the average player, even after playing Trigger. Also yeah the music's freaking amazing.

Bravo! Terracorrupt, your interpretation of the ending theme about shala looking for the player in this world its one of the most heartfelt, genuine and sincere conclusions I've seen of a game so far. I can tell you really love the game. thank you man for sharing your knowledge, and keep playing! Bravo I say. Hope you see this. You have my deepest admiration. Cheers from here!

@Terracorrupt0

7 жыл бұрын

+милос забáл thank you so much for watching!

So Chrono kills a near all powerful being,but gets merced by a human. Like what the hell man that's some bull. And I'm kinda sad that Frog gets no love in Chrono Cros.

@Terracorrupt0

9 жыл бұрын

97greenking It's definitely one of the strangest parts of the series for sure, wasn't too happy about the decision myself.

@97greenking

9 жыл бұрын

These videos made want to replay the whole series

@josephjohnson8844

9 жыл бұрын

97greenking That's my biggest complaint about CC, it basically undoes everything you do in CT. Trust me, Crono wouldn't be taken out by a bunch of soldiers. He has powerful swordskills and magic.

@misterburkes8364

9 жыл бұрын

joseph johnson Dalton is love. Dalton is life. #GodTierDalton Recommend using the good old Google Search to find & play Chrono Trigger: Crimson Echoes, which basically covers all of the events in between Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross!

@PandaXclone2

8 жыл бұрын

+Mister Burkes It's more of a fan sequel attempting to bridge the gap between the two, but I suppose it's worth looking at.

this is by far the best explanation i have seen on chrono cross, thank you for your effort

Ok so I thought I'd point something out. Now you may address this in the third video, idk because I haven't gotten there, but this is a small point I wanted to make. One of the rules of time travel in the Chrono universe is that two timelines cannot exist at once. We know this because every time you change past events in Chrono Trigger, those events become the canon past and the future that used to exists gets sent to the Darkness Beyond Time. The DBT is a space-time waste bin where all lost timelines go. (at least this is my understand of the time travel concepts of the game) However, the games have shown us that different Dimensions CAN exist at one time. These dimensions are created when some major event splits the universe into separate paths. These alternate dimensions share the same past from before the split happened, but can have different futures as they progress. I said all that as a round-about way of saying that the Reptite Timeline is not actually a timeline, but an alternate dimension. Presumably it's the dimension that was supposed to take place on Earth originally, but the very action of Lavos crashing into the planet caused a split. ------- Also as a side note I feel like I need a degree in theoretical physics just to understand the timeline of these two games.

@flirting_w_disaster5820

7 жыл бұрын

Jomez j it did create splits in time. Thus... timelines. I believe what you meant to say was "who's to say it didn't create countless other DIMENSIONS" it's hard to argue otherwise but we would have to go into what exactly creates another dimension as opposed to a timeline to know for sure.

Crono is like Shepard from Mass Effect. They killed him once and all it did was piss him off. But then they get killed a second time for good but STILL...

God this series made me cry. it's a beautiful and underated gem

@Samanosuke1138

8 жыл бұрын

+blessedboydragon Too true. Swept tears just watching this recap.

@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342

3 жыл бұрын

@@Samanosuke1138 It really is something special. Not quite the sequel that many wanted but sometimes great things are not what you were expecting and this is honestly just that!

@Samanosuke1138

3 жыл бұрын

@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 too true

I feel like Chrono Cross was meant to put questions to the previous answers, and answers to the previous questions.

@scottwilly86

8 жыл бұрын

+Bad Misty It seemed like all the questions were answered with melancholy.

I've played both CT and CC and loved both. My biggest complaint with CC is that Guile was changed from being Magus to being a whole different character. A lot of the CC characters were cool, but Magus is an essential to the game series. The writers should've kept Guile as Magus obligatory for the final boss battle; I think it would've been a better ending to the game.

@jamesmatherly7844

2 жыл бұрын

I feel you dude, BUT, remember Magus (Janus) wasn't a part of Serges real world, (home world) or another world. If you remember in trigger magus was also thrown into another portal causing him to never meet serge and never being apart of his timeline. Would be cool though if guile was in fact Magus, Janus, from Zeal, and helped serge, the arbiter, complete Belthazars goal to eradicate the Time Devourer.

@TheTongueofRa

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesmatherly7844 In the DS verision I thought Magus asked to lose all his memories and be reborn a new person without the emotional baggage of losing his family. If that is the case then maybe he was "reborn" as Guile and thus able to become such an OP magician.

@ThunderGenesis

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheTongueofRa That’s exactly what happened.

This makes 50x more sense than the Retrospective that another KZreadr attempted.

Thank you so much for this! A lot of people diss on this great game, how much you wanna bet they knew next to nothing of the lore and the timelines? Sure, Trigger is (in my opinion) the superior game but this one has always captivated me in its own way, ever since I was 15.

@Bjorick

Жыл бұрын

yes, but unless you can understand all the extremely complex and poorly explained bits of the series, it's easy to get lost - me and a friend tried to play this game together back in the day, which was a mistake - i will try to play it again now that it's on the switch but.....worried it'll be just as confusing

I've watched this series like LITERALLY 30 times.....well done!

fantastic, great work man!

"Temporal shenanigans"

@Terracorrupt0

8 жыл бұрын

Great name for a band

@r.babylon2885

8 жыл бұрын

Terracorrupt So, I wanted to thank you for this video. I've had Trigger and Cross since I was 14. And with all the times I've played them, you still managed to provide some information that I missed. The beauty of these games is that I'm still finding new things I previously missed. If you like this sort of material, for fun I'd like to recommend Neon Genesis Evangelion and Madoka Magica for you to watch.

@Terracorrupt0

8 жыл бұрын

I'm actually considering NGE for my next episode 😀

@r.babylon2885

8 жыл бұрын

Terracorrupt Sir, you now smell like a bestie.

@ricardolujan4791

6 жыл бұрын

that will be the title of the next entrance in the series ...lol!!!!

I sincerely you keep up with a series like this. I'm consider myself one of the few people that prefer chrono cross over chrono trigger just because I feel that the story and the music are much more emotional than the original game. Even getting through chrono cross I have a hard time understanding the story as well, but from the knowledge you gained from the chrono compendium and how you did this video you did an excellent job of summing up the story with excellent visual aids that will help anybody understand the story of the chrono series and I applaud you for that. I sincerely hope you continue to do this for games that may have stories that may not be easy to understand. Its an excellent video, and you keep your points very direct and very easy to understand without any forced/unnecessary humor.

@Terracorrupt0

8 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your heartfelt comment ☺

@theflaringfox10

8 жыл бұрын

+TheCompletionist im in your boat im one of those ppl who started off with cross then played trigger and I prefer cross much more. and personally I like serge more then chrono :P

@SeraidenAF

8 жыл бұрын

+TheCompletionist It's my favorite game, too. Favorite game of most all time, too. As a kid it was the first game I felt compelled to actually beat, so it made me more into the gamer I am today.

@severeenjoyment6775

6 жыл бұрын

Oh my goodness. I’m not the only person that feels this way? I sincerely thought I was. Chrono Cross is so much more beautiful (despite its graphics looking at them now). The painted backgrounds are so enthralling, and the soundtrack is an absolute work of art. I want so badly for someone to remake this game with today’s graphics.

@stanaforth3696

5 жыл бұрын

i like it more than chrono trigger, after dead sea, its becoming a rush of explanation of what happened behind chrono trigger and cross events and awesome places to do like chronopolis, terra tower. liked fort dragonia. still an awesome soundtrack. we learn more about lavos, humans and reptites.

chrono cross is one of my absolute favorite games ever. ive played the hell out of my old copy and still to this day have found new stuff to do and find. great synopsis of the plot though. i sure couldnt do a better job as it still confuses me immensely haha

Wow! There's a lot of plots I didn't understand or probably have forgotten over the years. It has been 18 years since I last played this game. I need to dive back in and re-experience it with added knowledge from your video. I've been wanting to play Cross again for a couple of months now which is why I'm here looking for Cross stuffs. Thank you so much for connecting Trigger and Cross and trying to explain Chrono's complex universe.

I can't wait for people to play the Remaster, and arrive at this video. It's a special game.

Amazing video! Ive never seen this games story through its timeline and how parallel it actually happens to chrono trigger. I still play this game every now and then and i am amazed at how i always discover more and more about this games storyline even after more than a decade of when i first played it. Thanks for bringing back and refreshing so much memories. This truly is one of the most masterpieciful games ever made

I've played both games, and CT is by far superior in my opinion. The time travel was complex enough to be riveting but still make sense. The characters of CT all have a vital part in the game, where in CC there's so many possible characters they lose importance. CC is way too convoluted and just overwrites so much of what happened in CT, and the end boss was a joke (needing to colour code a battle to win?) so in my mind CT wins by a landslide, though I have to say CC has an amazing ost:)

@balkarzar

6 жыл бұрын

CC doesn't really overwrite CT, CC is a result of CT

I just finish the game today july 20 2018, it took 13 years before i could personally finish it

WOW. I've played these games several times (my favorite RGPs, probably), and I never was able to parse the details like this video has! Thank you! Great job! This only confirms that these are some of the best games ever made.

Amazing in-depth video with solid commentary and timely music, this is wonderful!

really enjoyed these timeline videos, makes it a little easier to understand. here's to hoping Square finally decides to add a third entry to this series!

Whenever I feel that need for Chrono Cross nostalgia I always find myself back here. Hope you return soon Terra

This is the only video that gets it perfect. Every other one out there says it's too complicated, it doesn't make sense, is impossible to understand but you've nailed it.

This is a brilliant series of videos. Thank you so much for articulating all of this so well.

This video changed my life. It's 2015 and these games are still mesmerizing to me.

@Terracorrupt0

8 жыл бұрын

+Austin V

@luchalujano2729

Жыл бұрын

I was gonna respond to this comment, then I realized this comment is me 7 years ago. I ended up on this video again 7 years later unknowingly. Damn this game is good.

I have no idea why but the fact that this games story is so complex makes me love it so much. I love the way you explained it, thank you for making this video, please do video 3 i really cant wait to see it

Please keep making videos! Your content is out of this world

Terra, you gotta return back as we are finally getting the remaster we been waiting for years.

Great video! I love chrono saga. Keep going on... I remember a theory from the compendium about Miguel is Crono... That blow away my brain... (Part 4: Theorys)

Chrono Cross has such a wonderful sound track

This is literally the most talented man on all of youtube. Your videos are legendary my brother. I wish you would unleash more content..

Man I've probably played Chrono Cross a dozen or so times since I was 13 in 2000 but I never really fully understood the story, I just knew it was a great, fun game with awesome gameplay, characters and music, and always ragged on it for not being linked with Trigger as much... How wrong I was. These videos have really opened my eyes! Love how detailed they are and how much care you put into them. Subbed and anxiously awaiting part 3.

literally had a headache trying to follow the plot of this game

Thanks for making this, as you explained it better than any wall of text I've seen. Still don't like story though, mainly because the memorable and loveable cast of Trigger all get killed offscreen five years after saving the earth. To add insult to injury, it was by Dalton, the guy who was so incompetent, he defeated himself.

@Terracorrupt0

8 жыл бұрын

I have grave issues with the story (convolution for the sake of mystery isn't really mystery) but I really enjoy some of the concepts that cross explores. Trigger is an example of convolution dome correctly I believe

@PandaXclone2

8 жыл бұрын

+SR T At the very least, some iteration of 1000 A.D. Trigger Crew from Home World and their actions from Trigger in Alternate World would be merged into the unified timeline. It's also implied with Schala "Kid" that anyone in this universe retains both world's memories for somehow. Hopefully this makes it better.

@VOAN

8 жыл бұрын

+SR T That Dalton guy was the only part of Chrono Trigger I hate the most as we never get the chance to kill him.

@raspberrymuffin

8 жыл бұрын

+SR T So true. There was so much I didn't understand about the game, and this video series clarified so much. It also makes the games seem a lot more related too.

@alvinchimp1392

8 жыл бұрын

+SR T Well, Crono and Marle are MIA. Lucca a Robo should technically still be alive do to the end events of Chrono Cross. Unified Timeline stuff creates some big questions of whether or not the original Trigger crew are still alive or not....

I really like the fact that a lot of people like you have taken their time to go through this story so deeply. IMO, I always loved Chrono Cross, and it was one of my favorite games for that time. To this day, the intro remains one of the most memorable introductions in games that I have seen. A lot of fans always criticized it, due to not being what they expected and not following Chrono Trigger directly, but I always felt the follow up and the tie in to Trigger was so well done and we simply didnt understand it. Good video.

This is the best video describing Chrono Cross on youtube. Thanks for this. I finally understand what was going on in that game well over a decade after I played it. I must say that 'convoluted' is an understatement of a word to describe the story. It's not my cup of tea, but I do appreciate the story for what it is now that I know the details about it.

I initially hated Chrono Cross after playing it because the story was slow and confusing, characters were too numerous and not compelling, and gameplay was not very rewarding. After watching this well-put explanation that helped me to understand the story much better, I can honestly say I hate Chrono Cross even more now. Perhaps the greatest reason for my ire is how Chronotrigger's protagonists were cast off so easily; we're talking about battle-hardened, magic-wielding demigods all presumably killed by simple means, or just ignored altogether regarding their fate or involvement in Balthasar's plan. I don't necessarily expect a direct sequel to resort to pandering, but at the very least, don't tease us with reprising the "old gang" only to vaguely suggest that they're all pretty much dead or turned into amnesiac cross-dressers or whatever, and don't make us think we're revisiting the fictional world of our nostalgic youth, only to find out it's just an isolated island chain that we're never going to leave.

@krystalmary1985

6 жыл бұрын

Hahahahaha same. I liked cross the first time I played it then it kinda ticked me off the second time years later, now I just want to plat trigger again.

@amsgame7148

2 жыл бұрын

That is ONLY until Serge and Co. defeat the TIme Devourer. Once they do and free Schala, they recombine the dimensions into one; Lynx/Fate, the Dragon Gods, and the Dream Devourer no longer exist. So, the events of Trigger still happened, but Kid lives a peaceful life with Lucca. Chrono and Marle get to live their lives peacefully and so does Serge. Chrono Cross is essentially repairing the demage you cause in Chrono Trigger trying to save the world and the future. It's also a lesson to never time travel xD

@amsgame7148

2 жыл бұрын

You also forget, Crono and company weren't gods or anything. They were a bunch of kids and throughout the story there are numerous times where bosses defeat the entire party in scripted events. They aren't invulnerable. Just because they managed to kill Lavos together doesn't mean they can handle everything that came their way. They were strong because they were a big group that came together for a cause but after that, Lucca opened and orphanage and continued her research, Crono and Marle settled down, Robo was brought into Chronopolis, Glenn returned to the past and I'm hazy where Magus ended up.

I would like to see a movie based on Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross

Hi Terra, I haven't played this in almost 17 years!! Beating it again with the new remaster and understanding the true story you explained, what with your chrono trigger video as well, brings light to me. I have always loved this duo, I grew up with RPGs and this duo hits home. In conclusion, thank you for the vids and having your own take what you thought may have happened (which it did) and sharing your story with us, the viewers, and keeping this amazing game an ongoing playable legend.

Man, you might not see this but, if you see this message i would like you to know that i still go to your videos if i want a story bed time because it is so good. And it helps me during a tough time. You are missed here. But i know you are busy with other things now. Have a good 2024 year !!

After being in Chrono Trigger on the DS and seeing Shala as the Tme Devourer it all made sense! After beating Chrono Trigger on the SNES, so many years ago, I always wondered what happened to Shala? Playing and beating Chrono Cross, three times because I wanted to all the characters, I knew that it was Balthasar all along and that the Reptites had something to do with it too. But I just couldn't connect at all. And that end cinematic scene where Lucca found that baby with a pendant in the PlayStation version I was like WTF OVER!?!? Until I finally beat Chrono Trigger on the DS and BOO-YAH! The missing piece was found! Shala became the Time Devourer!? WHAAAAAT!?!? Great video explaining and breaking down the connection between the two games. Not that many people got it. They just don't make games like this anymore.

@ricardolujan4791

6 жыл бұрын

Finally a person who understood chrono cross as a sequel... i got it too but to explain it to others is exhausting

@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342

3 жыл бұрын

@@ricardolujan4791 To be fair it's very hard to grasp. Had to beat the game several times and get extra deets from vids like this to fill in the gaps I was missing since there is sooo much to think about in regards to piecing together this super on purpose fragmented story that's spread across millions of years... And saying what I just wrote out loud is already exhausting lolz.

Magnificent Videos wow. Good work and thank you, make my day with this video i really love the Chrono games and Chrono Cross is my favorite.

@Terracorrupt0

9 жыл бұрын

***** Thank you very much sir, I'm glad I was able to make your day :D

@misterburkes8364

9 жыл бұрын

Terracorrupt0 Impressive vid! You did a great job summarizing the key points from Chrono Compendium :D

I appreciate your work. Both this and your chrono trigger video are beautifully presented. It is very easy and enjoyable to watch and has the right pacing. Plus very informative. It really fills out the plot holes that weren't ever explained this well. So, thank you.

Can't wait for the next video on this. best summary on the timeline out there. well done. subbed

I wouldn't be mad if you did go into detail, disregarding video length

It would be great to have one more game in this series that would solidly tie both of these games together a little more coherently.

@brayanwrites

2 жыл бұрын

They should call it "Chrono Reveal"

@stephenboulden4074

Жыл бұрын

There was a 3rd game ‘planned’ titled Chrono Break, although it never really left preliminary stages. It was never announced but it was confirmed by the developers many years later in interviews. Sadly they all left to go work on FFXI or other projects and Chrono Break never moved forward…

@denkoumasato

Жыл бұрын

That's what they said about every Kingdom Hearts game (both main and spin-off). "They should do one that links everything together and ties up loose ends" Meanwhile, Tetsuya Nomura: "Let's make another game that answers some questions but presents 100 others."

Bloody good video mate. I forgot how crazy the story was in chronological cross.

Three years later this is popping up on my feed. Thanks for this awesome video!

Leave it to Square. They always come up with some amazing stories.

@sabretoothchipmunk3615

4 жыл бұрын

Amazing... though not always good. This series was an exception in that case.

Im still sad at the fact that in the storyline. They just killed off Crono and Marle like that.. =( There was such a strong attachment to all the characters in Chrono Trigger.

@VOAN

6 жыл бұрын

It's Final Destination man, they saw what happen in the future and try to prevent it. The future was meant to be destroy by Lavos, trying to change that means certain death to the ones doing the change. You don't just try to cheat death and get away with it. Dragon Ball Z tries to do the same thing and look what happen, Kid Buu destroys the Earth and everyone died. It's sad but true. Seeing vision of what would happen and trying to prevent that just makes it worst.

@TheMixedPlateFrequency

6 жыл бұрын

But after ending of Chrono Cross. Does this mean everything now is back to normal and has a brighter future?

@amsgame7148

2 жыл бұрын

That is ONLY until Serge and Co. defeat the TIme Devourer. Once they do and free Schala, they recombine the dimensions into one; Lynx/Fate, the Dragon Gods, and the Dream Devourer no longer exist. So, the events of Trigger still happened, but Kid lives a peaceful life with Lucca. Chrono and Marle get to live their lives peacefully and so does Serge. Chrono Cross is essentially repairing the demage you cause in Chrono Trigger trying to save the world and the future. It's also a lesson to never time travel xD

Chrono trigger was the fun simple time romp to save the world. Crono Cross was made to show that time travel isn’t as simple as we thought. Wish they’d remake this game.

@VOAN

3 жыл бұрын

True messing with time could cause certain consequences to happen in the future, even doom those who made the change. The only thing is the story in Chrono Trigger end on good terms, what Chrono Trigger doesn't show is the consequences of the main characters and that's what happen in Chrono Cross. Even show like Dragon Ball Z proved that changing events through time could be dangerous, in DBZ Trunks travel back in time to save the past but actually ended up destroying it in the next saga. In the Cell saga everyone who were suppose to perished lives but in the Buu saga bigger consequences happen and Buu destroy the planet. It goes to show that a premonition (as seen in all Final Destination films) must not be change or else something far worst could happen.

Me: Wow these clips are edited really well together, and the music makes it so relax- Video: (cuts to a still image of FATE) Me: AHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think the main reason why people didnt like Cross was because of its clusterfuck story. From how well and reasonable Trigger's story was, to this... i dont even know what happened, but my guess is that the guy who wrote the story was a different person. Trigger's story was easy to understand, but Cross's story even know after 3 or 4 playthroughts and this video i cant really put it together.

@baixiaolang

6 жыл бұрын

He wasn't a different person. IIRC, he was the guy that wrote the Zeal section in CT. It's kind of ironic tbh, Chrono Trigger was written by multiple people each writing for each time period, but ended up coherent, while Chrono Cross was all written by one dude and came out a jumbled mess.

@raywing638

6 жыл бұрын

it's the same person. and honestly he wrote most of the trigger. and d you know there's a lot of incoherent part in trigger. like grandmother syndrome etc.

@todd2.08

5 жыл бұрын

@@raywing638 Grandmother syndrome? Which part of Trigger was that?

So technically in this current timeline at the ending of this game. You could say the events of Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross have been erased? Well i mean all the negative events erased. I wonder if Shala being saved, enabled Shala to redo and erase all the wrong that happened throughout the timelines and dimensions.

@Wexter0083

5 жыл бұрын

I know this has been a couple-year-old comment, but I think it implies that both the Home World and Alternate World combined into a singular world. The events of Cross still happened, but New World Serge does not remember it because you cannot have the memories of two different worlds in one's head. It's a world if Lynx/Fate, the Dragon Gods, and the Dream Devourer no longer exist. So, the events of Trigger still happened, but Kid lives a peaceful life with Lucca, Chrono and Marle and Serge gets to live his peaceful island life. Or at least that's how I interpreted the ending.

so incredibly impressed with your work! watching both vids was a real pleasure.

@Terracorrupt0

9 жыл бұрын

seibpa Thank you so much for watching

Would be interesting if you threw the game Radical Dreamers into your videos. I'd like to see what you think on that

Chrono Trigger had such an amazing Plot and care to the "timeline" Chrono Cross just mess with it... the game is fine.. but i don't like it nor i consider it cannon... feels too fanfic to me.

@cringewalker8824

4 жыл бұрын

agree, its way too complex and it makes players loose the track of what is happening and why

@liarnn3767

4 жыл бұрын

@@cringewalker8824 I would call it absurd rather than complex

@davidarriola6412

2 жыл бұрын

exactly, some one pushed their own fanfic to make their view, overwrite the original story. At best the entire thing could be considered another game shoehorned in as another time line.

amazing! I find the story even better that all the questions I had are answered, thank you for your effort!

Dude, i just watch both of your videos back to back, what a great series of videos.

@Terracorrupt0

9 жыл бұрын

***** Haha thanks a lot, that's a hell of a lot of viewing :D

Interesting, I always wondered what the plot of CC was lol

Love the game, love the story, but even after understanding it, doesn't feel like it should end there. Why would brand new characters save someone they don't know or have emotional ties to besides Belthasar? That's the one flaw I see out of this whole thing. Most of the game, you're fighting to get your body back and kill Lynx. Lavos is already dead, he's not the big bad. FATE was the big bad the entire story next to Lynx, but the twist happens when the Dragon God becomes the other big bad. You beat both of them and then... what? "Oh I made you go through all this crap to kill this thing beyond the End of Time that none of you know about until right now... and it also has a girl captive that's very dear to me and the other team before you that did the real work and I kinda fucked it up so please help?" The history part is cool, very depressing though, because after playing Chrono Trigger many times through and getting emotionally attached to Crono and the gang, hearing that they die a few years later just plain sucks. I would rather have had it that Magus saves his sister as Guile (since he lost his memory in the DS version and it makes perfect sense). It would've felt much more fulfilling in that sense. Don't get me wrong, the game is amazing and saving Schala at the end brought tears to my eyes (that music...) but I feel like Serge and his crew didn't do half the amount of work that Crono's group did. The stakes felt so much higher in Trigger. Cross was a very depressing game, a great one, but depressing. Maybe that's the theme there. You can never tell the future. Even if you save the world, you'll never know what tomorrow can bring from your actions. They need to finish this series. Make it a complete trilogy. Back to basics on the third one. You saved the world in the first one, you combined the two universes in the second one, now get back to the time travel or beyond that. Maybe see who this Entity guy is. God maybe? (And don't make us fight Him lol)

Finally a well done explanation between the 2 Cross Games. That last comment about Schala / Kid looking for us the player is quite touching though. When I was a kid I also imagined bumping into her on a street or some place else... Well done brother for doing this. Well done.

The series is definitely one of the best ever. Awesome video!

As someone who only semi recently played CT for the first time, I'm going to continue to pretent CC doesn't exsist.

@YophiGames

3 ай бұрын

As do most people. CT was just too much of a masterpiece with beloved characters to toss them all to their deaths thinking people would accept a brand new cast. Schala was cool, but she wasn’t anyone’s favorite character over the main cast. So a “clone” of a character who not many cared about overshadowing Crono? Yeah, not a good idea.

@NAzo.

4 күн бұрын

That's fine and we'll pretend people like you don't exist who lie and say CT doesn't have a sequel when it very much does and it's called Chrono Cross. What you want is a game without delving into the consequence of time manipulation which is what CC does and saves a character from CT get her freedom and becomes married.

@NAzo.

4 күн бұрын

@@YophiGames That clone as you called her merges back with Schala and become one body and soul. What you want is a happy happy go happy where you can manipulate time without facing consequences. And because CC delves into those dark themes you have a problem with it because boo hoo the CT cast presumably gets killed wah wah.

@Badmunky64

4 күн бұрын

@@NAzo. got nothing better to do then?

@NAzo.

4 күн бұрын

@@Badmunky64 I thought you were going to continue to pretend CC doesn't exist?

it's a shame you haven't talk about the picture of Kid ( shala) in some kind of wedding cloth with a guy that look similar to serge in the ending... :/

@graciegj63

8 жыл бұрын

Yea, so she did find him in the end anyway.

@Ristariaz

8 жыл бұрын

Exactly. I always thought she was looking for and found Serge, instead of the the player. Seems much more heartfelt that way.

@reptoidrenaissance

6 жыл бұрын

The implication is that she was writing to Serge, and looking for him. Also, I thought the picture at the end was her in princess garb next to her lost little brother (Magus)...

@rozihanafi5447

4 жыл бұрын

Serge was flirting with Leena, Kid and Harley. Kill Harley, leave Leena as forever single lady. Should just do polygamy.

This is the best video I found about Crono cross and trigger !! Excellent job!

Cheers mate! Very well done. I've played both games several time and you have certainly tied up loose ends.

breath of fire 4 please !!

How the hell did chrono and marle get killed by a stupid invasion? they not only both have magic, but also they have fought and destroyed LAVOS! Did they get weaker or something?

@TDrakeGaming

8 жыл бұрын

+Alexandria Armstrong Even the Spartans in 300 died against overwhelming numbers....

8 жыл бұрын

chrono could cast luminaire to destroy everything around him, lucca had the flare spell, and marle could use life 2 to revive anyone, it's still way too hard to believe they died.

@SirJoelsuf1

8 жыл бұрын

Attacking when the guard is down, that's how.

@graciegj63

8 жыл бұрын

There's more than one way to bring down a monarchy. Dalton (who's implied to be the one who did it) is the kind of guy who'd use less than honorable tactics to do it.

@fatmn

7 жыл бұрын

They took off their plot armor.

Thank you SO much for making this video! I'm so glad I found it. I've played through Chrono Cross at least a dozen times and still haven't the foggiest clue what is happening in it. This clears up so much. They should make a sequel about what happened to the Frozen Flame after Serge defeats the Dragon God

Awesome video man! This actually cleared some things up for me

What about New Game Plus?

@very_unoriginal_name1714

8 жыл бұрын

In which 99% of the point of New Game Plus is for the 13 endings.

@lagunaseca3806

6 жыл бұрын

Lloyd Johannessen while having a fast forward. They made new game plus simply because there is no way you'll understand the story if you played it once.

although you did a great job explaining it... the storyline is still complete garbage. most of it doesn't make sense no matter what source you get it from. now chrono trigger is still one of the most epic and perfect story lines ever though

I played Chrono Trigger anda Chrono Cross, I know the two games were linked, but man this explanation its too much for my mind to understand! Awesome Video!!

I positively loved this video, a lot of it I knew already, but to have it put visually in a neat timeline just helped me understand the few things that were a little vague, thanks a bunch! Maybe I will start my 5th playthrough now, haha

Thank you for this video. Its what I've been looking for. Just finished Chrono Trigger DS and wanted to know more about Cross but now I have to say that this plot is not good. Their are just to many things to remember, happen off screen and get unnecessarily complicated. It may be a good game but this story isn't. Especially after the easy to understand but deep story of Trigger.

Chrono Cross is a fantastically beautiful game with a wondrous story ... for those patient and intelligent enough to understand (or at least grasp) it.

@roaringviking5693

7 жыл бұрын

You couldn't have said it better. =)

@krystalmary1985

6 жыл бұрын

I grasp the overly convoluted plot and I would have preferred to have had more involvement from the trigger cast rather than killing them off. It felt like I lost some childhood friends.

@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342

3 жыл бұрын

@@krystalmary1985 I hear ya but ya gotta face death at times sad to say. That's a part of life as much as it is living sad to say...

@krystalmary1985

3 жыл бұрын

@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 Yes in real life everyone dies 😂 but I don't play games to be like real life I play to escape it.

Thank you so much for doing this video, I've played CC twice as an adult, I now realize I had only the most superficial understanding of what was happening. Now I need to play Trigger and Cross again from the start after completely internalizing these videos :)

Incredible summary of the story! I've played both games, but never really studied them much. Seeing it all laid out like this is kind of mind-blowing. As a player, I don't think the average person realizes all that is going on, nor does the game lend itself to helping you connect the dots together. I always wondered who that baby is... :)

Screw this game for killing Crono, Marle, and Lucca.

@ufusnake

7 жыл бұрын

robo is fucking dead too!

@TheNobodyNamedDubyaBee

7 жыл бұрын

Good luck with that.

@JlBUNROCK

6 жыл бұрын

NOOOOOOO ALL I HAVE LEFT IS MAGUS AND FROG!!!

@victuz

5 жыл бұрын

No one really knows if Guile is Janus or not.

why is this so needlessly complicated

@gatotsu2501

8 жыл бұрын

Time travel, son.

@v0r3a0

7 жыл бұрын

Cross isn't time travel. It's alternate dimensions.

@thatguybehindtheglass

6 жыл бұрын

Blair Tyne Which were created through the time travel from the first game. All that fucking with time in order to defeat Lavos just made things worse.

@victuz

5 жыл бұрын

Time traveling leads to timelines... And timelines, when it's more than two, they can mess up you brain pretty bad if you don't concentrate on some aspects haha

Chrono Cross: Extremely convoluted timeline that takes a hundred playthroughs before you can even begin to start to grasp the true scope and nature of its "plot" and it's connection to other games. Tetsuya Nomura when developing Kingdom Hearts: "WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN!"

My theory on why Serge being saved dooms the future: After Serge is saved, the timeline is split at 1010 AD. When Crono and friends travel to 1999 to stop Lavos, they can only go to the Another World timeline. That leaves the Day of Lavos to unfold without their intervention in Home World.

@VOAN

3 жыл бұрын

Serge and Crono were never intend to exist on the same timeline perhaps.