Chrome vs Impact Sockets - The Real Truth!

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Chrome vs Impact Sockets - The Real Truth!
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  • @MuricanMan
    @MuricanMan3 жыл бұрын

    If the sockets have a lifetime warranty then they double as an impact socket

  • @michealrobinson

    @michealrobinson

    3 жыл бұрын

    Technically no, you run the risk of fracturing the socket and causing injury. I have and do occasionally use chrome sockets on an impact but typically not real high torque applications. I've had a chrome socket shatter while in use and it shot back at my hand and ripped through my skin like a serrated knife.

  • @JavierAguilar-xi8dh

    @JavierAguilar-xi8dh

    3 жыл бұрын

    You may be able to claim warranty on Abigail box store, but not on a tool truck. Their Easley will know it was used on an impact tool and void the warranty. I’ve seen that happen.

  • @PatriotPaulUSA

    @PatriotPaulUSA

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its not very smart or safe. Any decent tool guy knows how to tell if you put it on a impact if its chrome. Even the large corporate chains wise up to this eventually . A really heavy hitting, high power air impact, will shatter a chrome socket almost instantly. Its Very dangerous. But You do what works for you. Personally I don't use chrome and almost never break sockets except 1/4" dr. That way everybody is happy and nobody gets hurt.

  • @MuricanMan

    @MuricanMan

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@JavierAguilar-xi8dh most hand tool brands have no questions asked replacement policy unless you buy a tool truck brand where they void out any and every warranty they can. Also I should clarify my original comment was a joke.

  • @michealrobinson

    @michealrobinson

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@JavierAguilar-xi8dh I will say that I have warrantied many "misused" tools on a tool truck and they never asked any questions. Is it smart? No. Does it happen? Yes. Why, because you have a job to do and you use what you got, until that tool teaches you a lesson of it's capabilities.

  • @LatheWerks
    @LatheWerks3 жыл бұрын

    I was listening to this for 8 minutes then looked at the screen and said "oh my god, it's a bear!"

  • @fomoco300k

    @fomoco300k

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I thought it was just up there for the intro, but then it was still talking a minute in and I realized I was going to have to either just listen without watching the bear or turn it off. It was impossible to watch the content because of the weird bear!

  • @location707

    @location707

    3 жыл бұрын

    The bear is the only reason why I watch these videos.

  • @ger13nunyah56

    @ger13nunyah56

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same here

  • @Billblom

    @Billblom

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ger13nunyah56 And the bear used to smoke cigars.... which made it a REALLY odd bear.

  • @bigdteakettle8989
    @bigdteakettle89893 жыл бұрын

    As a retired mechanic, I can tell you that when you use a chrome non-impact socket on an air-powered impact you will hammer the walls out in the drive portion of the socket. Impact sockets can withstand the hammering of the anvil in the impact gun. Don't ask me about the electric impacts because they were not around when I was working. All we had was air.

  • @orbitalair2103

    @orbitalair2103

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same thing with electric (ryobi 3/8" impact). seeing that happen sent me to HF to get impact sockets for that purpose.

  • @BIGMEME_Retro.trance

    @BIGMEME_Retro.trance

    3 жыл бұрын

    I feel air impacts still have purpose because I have a small air one that from testing puts out more power for it's size in comparison to an equivalent compact electric impact

  • @jeffhooper3447

    @jeffhooper3447

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BIGMEME_Retro.trance must be a dewalt

  • @kenbtheman

    @kenbtheman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Get a snap on 1/2 inch cordless impact. It will RIP your arms off. You will never use air after that. But it's a thousand bucks.

  • @BIGMEME_Retro.trance

    @BIGMEME_Retro.trance

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kenbtheman I know the big electric ones kick butt but I'm talking about the small ones. kzread.info/dash/bejne/g6lhy8WhiJmadZc.html

  • @kuhrd
    @kuhrd3 жыл бұрын

    Something for people to keep in mind is that not all black oxide finish sockets are impact rated. I have seen several sets over the years being sold in between the chrome and the impacts on the shelf that were black oxide but were not impact rated. The other thing to keep in mind is that a typical cordless drill with a hammer or impact setting isn't likely to break an impact socket but a quality heavy-duty impact gun will easily destroy a non-impact rated socket as easily as it will shear off bolts and nuts.

  • @roybock5001
    @roybock50013 жыл бұрын

    Dad always said, "If you have to use a chrome socket on an impact tool, always use the shortest impact extension you can!"

  • @cjmueller5455

    @cjmueller5455

    3 жыл бұрын

    My grandmother always said the first few times you shoot a gun, don’t shoot it too far until it’s broken in.

  • @PJBonoVox

    @PJBonoVox

    3 жыл бұрын

    Disagree. I use a 20ft extension. Gets me out of the blast radius.

  • @FearsomeWarrior

    @FearsomeWarrior

    3 жыл бұрын

    Reminds me of the meme inspiration poster showing a guy with fifteen extensions and pivot joints and the wording under says “They said I’d have to remove the whole engine! Think again!”

  • @thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259

    @thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259

    3 жыл бұрын

    My grandma used to say "go buy your own tools".

  • @danielwoods5605

    @danielwoods5605

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting, I’ve always done that without knowing the benefits

  • @chillstep4life
    @chillstep4life2 жыл бұрын

    My wife walked in and said WTF are you watching? I told her I am watching an Animated Man Bear talk to me about impact sockets... she walked out of the room very quickly

  • @tollav

    @tollav

    3 ай бұрын

    Of the things she could have walked in on you watching she should be happy with you 😂

  • @98erics
    @98erics3 жыл бұрын

    Mechanic here, I started out with only impact sockets. When I needed to get a socket in a tight spot I'd just go to the bench grinder and "modify" it. I wish I could claim to be the first to do this but guys do it all the time haha. Most shops have bench grinders and mechanics are problem solvers!!!

  • @justarandomguy3969

    @justarandomguy3969

    2 жыл бұрын

    man i love that, using expensive impact sockets and ruining them so you have to buy new ones instead of buying chrome sockets that are cheaper

  • @98erics

    @98erics

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@justarandomguy3969 There's a place called Harbor Freight. They have dirt cheap impact sockets. The modified sockets are not ruined. They get reused the next time I encounter the same problem.

  • @KAONANAONA

    @KAONANAONA

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@justarandomguy3969I have a 3/8 Dr. 9/16 deep impact socket for removing rod cap nuts. I chucked it up in the lathe and took the grinder to it 29 years ago and it has removed more nuts than that in Congress. I've only ever bought one of those sockets.

  • @ccadama
    @ccadama3 жыл бұрын

    @The Den of Tools. Thanks Professor Red for today's lesson. I found it very educational and the key take away is to use the right tool for the job. I'd hate for someone to get a piece of chrome vanadium socket in their eye if it were to shatter compared to a chrome moly one that would crack. It's also very considerate of you to keep a set of thin wall wheel protecting impact sockets when a neighbor needs to have their tire changed and can help prevent from scratching their nice rims. Hate to think how many fancy rims get scratched when a auto or tire shop is too cheap to keep a set of thin wall wheel protecting impact sockets around. Hope you, Jeff, Blue, and your families stay safe and well. Shine on!

  • @jamesb43
    @jamesb433 жыл бұрын

    I will always have a fondness for chromoly from the BMX days of my youth. Get Rad, Y’all!

  • @EVnewbie

    @EVnewbie

    3 жыл бұрын

    Pretty much! Bikes made of chromoly (Reynolds 531 etc. frame tubing) can flex and absorb shock while being tough enough for BMX. Not sure if anyone has ever made a bicycle out of chrome vanadium--it sure would of been fun to watch a bike frame shatter and take out Junior at a BMX race...Chrome Vanadium....frame stiffness to die for!

  • @chrisreibold1634

    @chrisreibold1634

    3 жыл бұрын

    GT Interceptor!

  • @PopExpo

    @PopExpo

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@chrisreibold1634 GT box series was the Ferrari of BMX in 90s. That was made of aluminium tho.

  • @Conqueef-tadoor

    @Conqueef-tadoor

    3 жыл бұрын

    YES! I used to brag to all my friends about my Mongoose being Chrome-Moly back in the 80's. 🤙

  • @EVnewbie

    @EVnewbie

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Conqueef-tadoor Now you can brag to all your friends that your impact sockets are Chromoly--you can go back! My bike I have now is Chromoly--now to get a matching set of chromoly sockets--too cool for school.

  • @DDB168
    @DDB1683 жыл бұрын

    This was HUGELY informative. Thankyou. I used chrome sockets as impacts for decades, mainly because it was a rarity. I only purchased some impact sockets recently. I found the greatest sugar hit to be going from 12 point chrome sockets to 6 point - and using them with an impact gun. I know I know, 'oh the humanity' 🤣

  • @pillcosby3949
    @pillcosby39493 жыл бұрын

    I use my impacts pretty much all the time, whether I’m using an impact gun or not. The only time I bring out the chromies is if impact socket doesn’t fit

  • @seanflorian4653

    @seanflorian4653

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same. I just use all impact. The black coating makes them easier to spin by hand too

  • @alcerz984

    @alcerz984

    5 ай бұрын

    I got the 3/8 chrome moly impact thin wall sockets three years ago for 15 bucks. Husky is the brand at the depot. Now they’re 36 bucks plus tax.

  • @DAsian23
    @DAsian233 жыл бұрын

    As a metallurgist, this video makes me happy. Btw on the stress-strain chart the absorbed energy = toughness. Another factor is the hardness of the steel from heat treatment and coating hardness. Generally, the coatings are much harder than the base metal. This higher hardness helps prevent cracks from forming while the softer base metal absorbs the forces applied. You can even see the crack pathway/river trail at 7:06!

  • @JohnRodriguesPhotographer

    @JohnRodriguesPhotographer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah it's kind of like armor on tanks and old warships like cruisers and battleships. You put the brittle hard armor on the outside with a layer of softer armor on the inside to catch the spalling. Same thing with tanks. It's really weird how you can hit a tank really hard and not have an actual penetration but on the back side of the impact the cruise all jacked up because they just got showered with shrapnel.

  • @extrememiami

    @extrememiami

    Жыл бұрын

    So you would be in the know to tell us which brand uses the best metal? I need a new socket set and looking as gearwrench and wera, my old craftsman is rusted so bad I can't read the sockets anymore. Or any manufacturers to stay away from that use that cheap China soft stuff?

  • @juanvaldez4043
    @juanvaldez40433 жыл бұрын

    Excellent explanation. I used to work at a major tool brand, and part of the metal “recipe” was also for how well the tools would take heat treatment.

  • @patrickmcclintick9552
    @patrickmcclintick95523 жыл бұрын

    One other thing that plays an important role is the heat treatment of the sockets. You can control hardness with how it is heat treated. So you can make an impact socket more ductile and a “chrome” socket hard but more brittle, even if they are both CR-V.

  • @chuckschillingvideos

    @chuckschillingvideos

    3 жыл бұрын

    The heat treat is everything.

  • @ilikewaffles3689

    @ilikewaffles3689

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, but you can only make certain alloys so hard. Just like knives.

  • @patrickmcclintick9552

    @patrickmcclintick9552

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ilikewaffles3689 true, but that's not really an issue here with sockets. Even for chrome sockets, you wouldn't want them harder than you can currently get them in CR-V today. My point was you can make chrome and impact sockets from the same alloy, but using the heat treatment to make the impacts more ductile so they don't risk shattering, and so they don't chew up the impact's anvil over time.

  • @DustinGebhardt
    @DustinGebhardt3 жыл бұрын

    I’m a former engineer and manager for a few of the largest tool manufacturers in the US, specifically for sockets and metal finishing. This video is generally correct and is a great explanation for the layman.

  • @davidpowell3347
    @davidpowell33472 жыл бұрын

    Impact sockets can substitute for chrome but not the other way around. Except sometimes the impact socket won't fit a tight place. Beware there are some non-impact sockets that are black finish.

  • @jameskennedy673
    @jameskennedy6733 жыл бұрын

    Great information again, I have Crome sockets & now impact sockets, I didn’t have impact sockets, so I used a Crome one, never again, it was a painful lesson, years ago I bought a set of non Crome sockets off of a Mac Tool truck, they were a lot cheaper in price than Crome, but not cheap quality. Keep all of the great information coming, shine on & have a blessed day

  • @jimtownsend7899
    @jimtownsend78993 жыл бұрын

    I approach it from the opposite direction. I use impact sockets as much as I can, whether I'm using the impact or not. I only break out the vanadiums when the impact sockets won't fit.

  • @thomaskelly3921

    @thomaskelly3921

    3 жыл бұрын

    I worked as a mechanic for 30 years and did the same. Not only more convenient but less expensive to replace (on average)if you loose or damage a socket.

  • @lordrayden3045
    @lordrayden30453 жыл бұрын

    I was lazy, so I used my regular craftsman sockets on an impact gun, beat the hell out of a couple,of them...... Blew one up Took them back........ got them all replaced

  • @denoftools

    @denoftools

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think we have all been there.

  • @jeremymenning56
    @jeremymenning563 жыл бұрын

    5:39 You heard him fellas...When it comes to (ahem)sockets... it's the thickness that matters. 😂😂😂

  • @flipicaneze

    @flipicaneze

    3 жыл бұрын

    And how you use it 😉

  • @budsak7771

    @budsak7771

    3 жыл бұрын

    that's what she said too lol

  • @tom_schroeder
    @tom_schroeder3 жыл бұрын

    Very useful information, as always. Thanks for digging into this question.

  • @fivespeed3026
    @fivespeed30263 жыл бұрын

    Impact sockets are often thicker so they don’t always fit in tight spaces. Otherwise I’d use them for everything

  • @PJBonoVox

    @PJBonoVox

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I use them for basically everywhere they fit.

  • @TheScaleTech
    @TheScaleTech3 жыл бұрын

    Working on truck scales, I’ve broke a lot of chrome sockets. Using chrome sockets on impacts is fine short term, but they are definitely not interchangeable.

  • @BryanTorok
    @BryanTorok3 жыл бұрын

    A thing you didn't mention that I was taught as the reason for chrome vs. black oxide finish impact sockets: When using an impact wrench many mechanics loosely hold the socket to guide it onto the bolt or nut by wrapping their hand around the socket. The impact can cause the chrome plating to come loose and peel off the socket. This is thin and razor sharp and the last thing you want spinning inside of your hand.

  • @tommyellis7728

    @tommyellis7728

    Жыл бұрын

    Is that why when taking off wheels it cuts me sometimes? I even have chr-moly Matco impact sockets and it does it.

  • @BryanTorok

    @BryanTorok

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tommyellis7728 Yes, the steel the socket is made of flexes a microscopic amount under the impact. The chrome plating doesn't flex and peels off the surface of the socket.

  • @rider660r

    @rider660r

    Жыл бұрын

    A bigger threat than chrome pealing is the standard socket exploding.... It's even worse with the world of halfassers that will buy a set not knowing much and grab a 12pt set.. Have I used standard sockets on a air gun,yeah sometimes you just have to but never use them on anything bigger than 1" or you will more than likely have it explode,but I will not hold it or have the arc of that socket within or near the area of my face let alone my eyes. You also do not want to use a standard socket with a multiplier... Also not all standard sockets are chrome plated...some are anodized and some have the black oxide

  • @trentonmoonias239
    @trentonmoonias2393 жыл бұрын

    You’re the best and most knowledgeable bear I know. I met one at the local garbage dump but they didn’t know anything about sockets!

  • @dellolasalle9546

    @dellolasalle9546

    3 жыл бұрын

    You made my day , the bears 🐻 where I live don’t know shit about sockets either

  • @onsiteelectricianscott4025
    @onsiteelectricianscott40253 жыл бұрын

    Love the bear intro! Good info bear ! Keep up the good work

  • @rcud1
    @rcud13 жыл бұрын

    Good explanation. Never thought about anvil wear. Now we need you to provide a nice concise explanation for my wife on why I need so many sockets! 1/4, 3/8, 1/2, chrome and impacts, ones in my tool chest and ones in cases, as well as ones in my vehicles.

  • @onemoremisfit
    @onemoremisfit3 жыл бұрын

    Good info, and all this was known to me when I bought my first Snap On very expensive US made sockets from the tool truck over 40 years ago, and there weren't any names with abbreviations after them around for me to consult. Incidentally, Snap On was the first one to have the relieved corners in the hex of the sockets, they called that feature "flank drive" and it was patented, so it took decades for other makers to copy it, and now virtually all sockets are made that way. The chrome sockets are generally intended for hand use, they are slimmer and can fit into pocketed areas where the thicker impact sockets can't, and they are easier to keep clean and are good for internal engine and transmission work, whereas the thicker rugged impact sockets are better suited for rusty dirty chassis work, and these purposes can overlap here and there. The world won't end if you occasionally put a chrome socket on your impact. If you are concerned with personal injury if a socket shatters, there is PPE you can wear. If you put chrome sockets on your impact every day, you will get accelerated anvil wear not just from the alloy of the socket, but from the chrome plating inside the square drive, pure chrome is super hard on the relatively soft anvil. Also, have you ever considered giving that out-of-sync cartoon bear a rest instead of having him occupy half the screen for the entire video?

  • @csl9495
    @csl9495 Жыл бұрын

    As an adult I am finally looking to learn about all things handy. I lost my dad earliery in life.... and now im learning from a Bear. Thanks Mr. Bear.

  • @JackFrost877
    @JackFrost8773 жыл бұрын

    I always wondered what the difference between the chrome and impact sockets were, thanks Bear! Also, as a materials engineer and scientist, I really appreciated you talking about what elements comprised the different tools as well as using the stress-strain curve to get your point across. Spot on!!

  • @JohnRodriguesPhotographer

    @JohnRodriguesPhotographer

    3 жыл бұрын

    I presumed the were harder as opposed somewhat softer. Love learning new stuff. I won't stop until they put the coins on my eyes and tag on my toe!

  • @cobes11

    @cobes11

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agree, but it shows that neither one is ideal. Neither has the element of surprise, which is always extremely important.

  • @snap-off5383
    @snap-off53833 жыл бұрын

    Since cr-v is so brittle, they either go away from it for impact, OR they make it super thick to be able to take the impact. The biggest PRACTICAL difference between impact and chrome is that the spinning of the impact will wear through the protective coating, and they WILL rust if not oiled especially in humid climates. The Chrome coating will protect the steel forever if it is not chipped or worn off. Thus Chrome sockets tend to be "lifetime" tools, and impact sockets will wear down and tend to be "consumables". It doesn't matter if the tool is chrome coated or not, if it is made of the harder CR-V like the cheap pittsburgh impacts, they WILL be harder on your anvil, which is why you should put a cr-mo extension or adapter between them, something cheap to take that beating. In general treat cr-v as just "industrial finished" chromed sockets, and stick to cr-mo for impact. (AND STAY FAR FAR AWAY FROM MADE IN CHINA CR-MO, they do the "chinesium" recipe, and make glass sockets) - Gearwrench got burned switching away from Taiwan where the good stuff is made.

  • @electrolysisresearch8013

    @electrolysisresearch8013

    Жыл бұрын

    Chrome vanadium is not brittle at all. The point of adding vanadium is vanadium is completely immune to Bainite forming. And it retains full hardness while drawing hardness out of the carbides formed from carbon. The problem is not the steel the problem is lazy heat treat techniques. This is literally it you have to quench the socket in hot oil at about 200° f and hold it there for 4 to 8 hours at 200°. And they think that this is completely unpractical to wait 4 to 8 hours for an extra process. And that is why some sockets are junk and some sockets are not junk. I make armor out of chrome vanadium steel that stops 762×5, with no damage and will bend over 90° without breaking at 1/4" thick. This is why people shouldn't be trying to educate the internet on metallurgy with no experience whatsoever at heat treating.

  • @n9wox
    @n9wox3 жыл бұрын

    The weighted sockets for the Honda crank pulley bolt work like majic. Well worth the small investment.

  • @187fluffy187

    @187fluffy187

    3 жыл бұрын

    I used a 19mm impact deep socket, then 14 in of extensions attached to a 24 in breaker bar then put a jack under the extension for stability then added a floor jack handle for leverage and pulled like mad. Now i own a impact.

  • @gsrjaycee4521

    @gsrjaycee4521

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes I used to use a air impact on honda crank bolt it took a while for the bolt to loosen now I own a milwaukee 1/2 high torque and it was loose in no time

  • @dumbeezy5480

    @dumbeezy5480

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@187fluffy187 jesus i would’ve just went to go buy an impact

  • @wranefis
    @wranefis3 жыл бұрын

    7:27 “ I put chrome impacts on my sockets” 😂😂

  • @chancedunn2724
    @chancedunn27243 жыл бұрын

    Chrome plating will start coming off when used with an impact. Turns it into nice little razor blades stuck to your socket. You also have to worry about the chrome flaking off and falling in what you are working on like an engine or something with moving internals.

  • @trailblazer632
    @trailblazer6323 жыл бұрын

    It really is amazing how much minor changes in metallurgy can drastically change a metals performance. Hell just tempering can change things to crazy degree.

  • @angrydragonslayer

    @angrydragonslayer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or bad tempering We forgot to anneal a part and it just exploded, embedding a ~ 2kg piece (still stuck so only a guess) in a robot ~150 meters away from where we were Robot still works and we were able to patch the walls it passed through so nobody got fired :)

  • @firebird77clonefirebird89

    @firebird77clonefirebird89

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tempering...to a degree... This gets me every time.

  • @56thSPSk970
    @56thSPSk9703 жыл бұрын

    Impact sockets all. Can't see having both. Never a problem.

  • @snap-off5383

    @snap-off5383

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its when the damn fastener is 12 point, or recessed in a tight hole really that you have to deviate.

  • @ilikewaffles3689

    @ilikewaffles3689

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@snap-off5383 when have u seen a 12 point nut?

  • @snap-off5383

    @snap-off5383

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ilikewaffles3689 I never said I saw a "12 point hex nut" (your original unedited comment). There are plenty of 12 point fasteners: www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=H20 They're used often on internal engine parts.

  • @DavidSiebert
    @DavidSiebert3 жыл бұрын

    Good segment with lots of good information. When talking about metal strength means such different things in different use cases. It is probably better to talk about toughness and hardness. But in the end the best advice possible was given. Use the right tool for the right job.

  • @hardlyb
    @hardlyb3 жыл бұрын

    I used chromed cv sockets for both until I broke one on an impact wrench. When I upgraded my tools in the last couple of years, I got Tekton chromed cv in 1/4 and 3/8 for hand use, and a fairly complete set of impact sockets, and I've ended up just using the impacts for most everything, since I stopped working on my cars about 10 years ago. (Honestly,, I have all 4 sets of the Makita impacts that I got on sale one Christmas, and I use those 90% of the time.)

  • @TheSprinterVan
    @TheSprinterVan3 жыл бұрын

    Everything you wanted to know about sockets, but were afraid to ask😃 Good job roughing it out for us 🐻

  • @flipicaneze

    @flipicaneze

    3 жыл бұрын

    You would have to be so old like us to figure out that reference.

  • @DStein-jn9ls
    @DStein-jn9ls3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the detailed info. Perfect timing...I just purchased an impact wrench!

  • @LesbianNaziHookers
    @LesbianNaziHookers3 жыл бұрын

    My solution: 1/2 Impact sockets 3/8 and 1/4 Chrome sockets Breaker bars and impact gun are all in 1/2.

  • @tonymic988
    @tonymic9883 жыл бұрын

    Great information and thanks. I have used the Crome as an impact without an issue so far. I will correct my habits going forward.

  • @TechGorilla1987
    @TechGorilla19873 жыл бұрын

    As always, the best tool is the one you have that does the job. I sometimes have to use impact pipe wrenches to insert nails. Safety squints engaged (of course.)

  • @mikehenthorn1778

    @mikehenthorn1778

    3 жыл бұрын

    AvE approves of this

  • @user-ki3dj9pu9y

    @user-ki3dj9pu9y

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have a 6 ft pipe that as a joke I stamped " SNAP ON U.S.A 76589". But when that bad boy comes out it goes on an old proto breaker bar I bought on ebay, in tandem with my cheapo impact sockets. Snap on guy didnt think it was funny when I asked if he could warranty it for me because it has a slight bend though 😂.

  • @adderjack4604
    @adderjack46043 жыл бұрын

    Thanks the for the tip. I've been using a standard socket on my mid range impact as a truss builder to set the pucks on the table jig, because impact sockets don't fit in a lot of the pucks. I'll look for a thin wall impact socket to use instead.

  • @JustinDowDIYcentralhighway
    @JustinDowDIYcentralhighway3 жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed this video. Thanks much for all the extra added details that you do. 🍻😎🤙

  • @iaov
    @iaov3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Bear... good stuff once again!

  • @davidwalle5025
    @davidwalle50253 жыл бұрын

    great video. Another million view video. I use both. Shine on Bear.

  • @dalewysinger3077
    @dalewysinger30773 жыл бұрын

    Great job! Things that many need to know!

  • @Easton21
    @Easton213 жыл бұрын

    Man, this was super informative!

  • @dwhallon21
    @dwhallon213 жыл бұрын

    Bear, Thanks for putting this in common working man terms. You explained this well without getting into a properties of materials class.

  • @mattb7076
    @mattb70763 жыл бұрын

    Best use for thin wall impacts: Headbolts. I removed a head on a Volvo. Could only fit a Chrome socket in the hole, we were all scared it would bust.

  • @Kacavida11
    @Kacavida113 жыл бұрын

    If you want to do a quick one by, just electric tape around the Cr-Va to stop the shreads and use goggles

  • @dig1035
    @dig10352 жыл бұрын

    Had to watch this twice, I always wondered the difference, great explanation!

  • @budsak7771
    @budsak77713 жыл бұрын

    I'm listening to this more than I'm watching, and I have to keep looking just to make sure we're still talking about sockets lol

  • @louf7178
    @louf71783 жыл бұрын

    Good video. The hyperactive bear head is driving me crazy though.

  • @THROTTLEPOWER
    @THROTTLEPOWER3 жыл бұрын

    Great vid, thanks for sharing!!!

  • @VCR1117
    @VCR11173 жыл бұрын

    7:30 what did you say? 😂 “ I put chrome impacts on my SOCKET” lmao

  • @budsak7771

    @budsak7771

    3 жыл бұрын

    I put ribbed impacts on my socket lol

  • @FangOfTruth
    @FangOfTruth3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the tech tip on the affects from chrome vanadium has on impact anvils. Never crossed my mind. I just invested in the Earthquake XT half inch impact ( on sale $40 off and within $30 of the lower power half inch impact driver)so I will keep this in mind. I also got the Warrior 12 volt drill/flashlight combo for $19.99 to keep in the car. Already had the 18 volt Drill Master in a drill/flashlight combo and grinder toolbox. The Warrior has a li-ion battery versus ni-cad for Drill Master,hence it was $4 more for less power(when DM combo was on sale)but maybe more run time and longer life.

  • @Bryan-df7kc
    @Bryan-df7kc3 жыл бұрын

    Great explanation! Thanks! 👍

  • @BareRoseGarage
    @BareRoseGarage3 жыл бұрын

    For what I do, I do use chrome on impact. Because it's rare that I have to do it. Yes I have thick-wall sockets that I use the heck out of, but the few times I need a thin wall (modern wheels usually) it doesn't justify the cost to buy another socket set for an already too full roll-away multi-bank tool box.

  • @alannorman7801
    @alannorman78013 жыл бұрын

    I always put a 1" impact extension on my impact wrench when using chrome sockets which absorbs the blow and protected the chrome socket.

  • @TSPhotoAtlanta
    @TSPhotoAtlanta3 жыл бұрын

    You can save the anvil of the tool by always using an impact rated short extension. I do that anyway, but because I could, also bought a cheapish set of deep-well impact sockets. Already understood the alloys to a degree, but it was good to put it together and cool to see examples. Can you change the bear to a squid?

  • @chuchuchip
    @chuchuchip3 жыл бұрын

    1st time I've seen this. Like the smart Bear!

  • @elarr8733
    @elarr87333 жыл бұрын

    You really never know when you're going to end up in that weird part of KZread.

  • @denoftools

    @denoftools

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, don't search the term Flex, it gets weird fast.

  • @WoodCutr1

    @WoodCutr1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@denoftools well now I want to :(

  • @budsak7771

    @budsak7771

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@denoftools LeFlex lol

  • @privateassman8839

    @privateassman8839

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@denoftools wtf ??! VTuber mechanic??!

  • @doublepmcl6391

    @doublepmcl6391

    3 жыл бұрын

    YES

  • @shanerorko8076
    @shanerorko80763 жыл бұрын

    One thing you missed is chrome plated scokets can sometimes shoot the plating off when used on a impact. I've been a mechanic for 14 years and I have all three types, impact, chrome and thin wall impact, you just have to be mindfull that the socket can fail if it's thin wall. You generally know when the impact is going full blast and the bolt is taking a while that you're putting a lot of stress into the socket, so don't put your hand there.

  • @kurtanderson1701
    @kurtanderson17013 жыл бұрын

    i just watched the bear vid 3 seconds after posted.... i'm an addict

  • @kenny3217
    @kenny32173 жыл бұрын

    I just use impact for everything, got too many tools as it is. Thanks for the vid, although I will note you said Magnesium several times when talking about the alloys when they in fact contain Manganese.

  • @andrewforte
    @andrewforte3 жыл бұрын

    I have both styles. USA Craftsman for the hand tools and IR for the air tools. Most of the Craftsman tools are from my college days. IR came about 10 years later after buying the house and getting the compressor for Christmas one year. One day I was being too lazy and put my Craftsman 1/2" swivel joint on the air gun and it split in half on the 2nd bolt.

  • @JohnRodriguesPhotographer

    @JohnRodriguesPhotographer

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have quite a selection Craftsman primarily but I also have some snap-on and some other stuff. I don't use it everyday so I don't feel the need to invest and overpriced tool truck stuff. I mean don't get me wrong I'm not saying they're not good I'm just saying I'm not going to spend that kind of money. As for Chrome sockets I've literally broken a few of them just using a regular ratchet. So I'm not inclined to put Chrome on an impact. The explosive force of the impact makes it pretty dangerous. So what's the point of not using the right kind of socke. Since Sears sold the Craftsman name, I won't touch them. If I need a hand tool it will be Icon.

  • @albertromero410
    @albertromero4103 жыл бұрын

    Great info thanks bear.

  • @jimpann
    @jimpann3 жыл бұрын

    Good informative vid. The best impact sockets IMO are the Sunex brand. I have never had one break. Thanks for the vid.

  • @BigHoss-dk4qj
    @BigHoss-dk4qj3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the insight I need to pull the pin on some impact sockets . I have a mid torque and high torque from Milwaukee both in 1/2 18v and 3/8 stubby in 12V. My local HF has some Pittsburgh and the Icon brand. All have skips and the icons cost more than the Tekton etc. I was thinking of getting the 1/2 deep and shallow in 1/2 first and use a 3/8 adapter. Any suggestions for no skip Metric and SAE. Much appreciated. Btw I did have assorted impacts sockets but apparently they grew legs over the years.

  • @kvernesdotten
    @kvernesdotten3 жыл бұрын

    Good video, only thing I can think of is if you want to talk about something like this in laymans terms as you said, it might be a good idea to define terms like elasticity, plasticity, toughness, malleability, ductility and hardness. They are often used differently in daily speak so alot of people think they mean something other than what they actually do in this setting. Also check out the torque test channel if youre interested, they find answers to alot of stuff like this (related to impacts that is)

  • @bradkrekelberg8624
    @bradkrekelberg86243 жыл бұрын

    Good point about lugnuts. It is really annoying that on both of our recent model cars, impact sockets are too thick to get into the lugnut cavity on the wheels. How hard would it be to make those openings just a little bit bigger?!

  • @rrknl5187

    @rrknl5187

    3 жыл бұрын

    If they did, the tool manufacturers wouldn't be able to sell specialty tools for $$$$$$$$ and the equipment manufacturers wouldn't get the kickback $$$$$$$$$ from the tool,manufacturers.

  • @ajs96350
    @ajs963503 жыл бұрын

    I have abused the crap out of Tekton impact sockets and I have yet to hurt one. I'm very impressed with the quality versus the cost.

  • @mferrarorace
    @mferrarorace3 жыл бұрын

    Good advice. TY bear.

  • @GunnerGomez
    @GunnerGomez Жыл бұрын

    “ I put chrome impacts on my socket” 😂😂😂😂

  • @WilReid
    @WilReid3 жыл бұрын

    12:10 Absolutely. My GO TO sets (SAE and Metric) of sockets are 1/2" deep well impacts. When those don't fit I go get something that does, but I always grab those first. I used the 7/8" yesterday, on a torque wrench even, to change out the blades on the mower. They're bulkier and heavier than standard sockets, but being someone who has had an impact related accident/incident, I can live with the minor drawbacks. I always have the impact sockets available in case I need to use an impact.

  • @sniteper
    @sniteper3 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Perfect timing I was wondering about this yesterday morning.

  • @SweeturKraut
    @SweeturKraut3 жыл бұрын

    I’ve got the Harbor Freight deep impact sockets. They’ve got a black matte finish that rubs off on my hands when I’m working with them. Is there a way to clean them off or maybe some sort of spray on finish?

  • @davidarnette327
    @davidarnette3273 жыл бұрын

    That was a good one. Better than your average bear.

  • @DIMTips
    @DIMTips3 жыл бұрын

    What an interesting video. Now j know the difference. Thankfully I have an impact set.

  • @Nberente5
    @Nberente53 жыл бұрын

    As a road tech, I can tell you that the weight of a socket, which has been proven, is extremely important when it comes to impact. Electric or air.

  • @trentallman984

    @trentallman984

    3 жыл бұрын

    As a truck driver thanks for being there for us truck drivers.

  • @rob-toolsandtech2521
    @rob-toolsandtech25213 жыл бұрын

    I have my dad’s old craftsman chrome sockets. I’ll probably get some impact sockets to go with them sometime. from what I’ve seen, I like how easy the Milwaukee impact sockets are to see, so I might spring for some of those sometime.

  • @danielyoder1462

    @danielyoder1462

    3 жыл бұрын

    I took a white paint marker and smudged it over the markings on my harbor freight sockets then wiped it with a rag leaving the paint bbn in the etchings. now my sockets are hi vis

  • @PaulSteMarie
    @PaulSteMarie3 жыл бұрын

    It's mo-lib-den-um. Easy peasy. 😁 Now, try saying "Lagavulin" through a 😷

  • @jamesb43

    @jamesb43

    3 жыл бұрын

    Was watching a video on metals awhile back, and an otherwise intelligent sounding guy was calling it “Molly Bend ‘Em” (not humorously either)... kinda made me doubt everything else he was saying. :)

  • @floobertuber

    @floobertuber

    3 жыл бұрын

    It even has "DEN" in it. "I'm hooked on phonics, and you can be too!"

  • @stanburton6224

    @stanburton6224

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is also man-guh-neez. Not magnesium

  • @albertthorne2872

    @albertthorne2872

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@floobertuber why if phonics not spelled phonetically.

  • @floobertuber

    @floobertuber

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@albertthorne2872 I presume you meant "is," and not "if." And that's a darned good question.

  • @PhillyFixed
    @PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent breakdown!

  • @philpatterson7085
    @philpatterson70853 жыл бұрын

    Just mind your hands on a chrome socket, if the chrome is peeling or about to, you don't want that to spin in your ungloved hands on an impact wrench.

  • @CyberMonkey3D
    @CyberMonkey3D2 жыл бұрын

    This is some great content! Better than a university.

  • @adambishop5739
    @adambishop5739 Жыл бұрын

    Thats one charming bear, I really wanna take him out for a coffee (or a cuppa tea, as I'm English...lol)!

  • @pirinst
    @pirinst3 жыл бұрын

    Enjoy your videos. Had a set of new montgomery ward chrome sockets from the late 197s0 for a really long time.... until the chrome just began to peel off the metal and i cut one of my fingers handling one of them. To the junk pile they went. Wards was gone by then but the sockets worked met my diy mechanic needs up to that point. Like your floor jack vids best.

  • @martyk1156
    @martyk11563 жыл бұрын

    My experience of using chrome on an impact is that they shatter as opposed to just cracking like impact sockets do. That is with professional grade sockets. Mac, snap on ,matco . They both have their advantages so as a tech you have to spend your pay checks for both sets.

  • @Nphen
    @Nphen3 жыл бұрын

    I got the Quinn 3-rachet Cr-V socket set on a 2018 coupon (RIP HFT coupons) for $40. It's great because I know I have a kit with 3 different ratchet sizes and lots of socket sizes. Other than that, I get impact-rated socket sets when they're on a good discount. Glad to know I can safely use those with hand ratchets and the breaker bar and to take it easy if I ever have to use a shiny one on the impact gun.

  • @ZoeyR86
    @ZoeyR86 Жыл бұрын

    I went to Harbor Freight and picked up 3 of the 34in full bank boxes. Red, blue, black. Red and blue are SAE and Metric hand tools. The black is all impact and specialty tools (bearing pullers, ball joints etc etc) I have a xtool 20w laser and bought a bunch of the harbor freight foam floor Mats I used the laser and made edge to edge fitted foam with labeled cutouts for every socket, wrench, pick, bit, tap, and die. I also have quickjacks and do everything from my garage I just changed my clutch, lower control arms, sway bar endlinks, ball joints, both front wheel bearings and axles, motor and trans mounts, radiator, condenser, A/C Compressor, alternator, oil, oil filter transmission gear oil, timing chain, water pump. All this weekend, my toaster had 238,891mi on the clock. My factory original clutch was on the edge of total failure, and the alternator died last week, so I figured if I'm pulling the engine and trans might as well do a full front-end rebuild. Even installing air suspension with universal air bags and airlift 3H management dual 444's and a 3gal tank with a 1gal tank for a hornblaster set (the Compressor's fill the 1 gal and a check valve from the 1gal to the 3 gal to the valve block this way if I use the horn it can't take air from my suspension but when the bags start to use air it will kick on the Compressors and fill both tanks, this trick is simple but it basically means the suspension can use upto 4gals of air the the horns only get 1 gal both tanks are spun Aluminum with a water trap and an remote purge valve with a 3 sec timer the every time the car starts (I used this setup 25yrs ago on a mini truck and always had dry tanks and put 80,000mi on the truck and never had a hiccup it just worked

  • @ScooterFXRS
    @ScooterFXRS3 жыл бұрын

    In my experience I've split chrome general sockets on an impact, not having impact sockets on hand or space was not there for the thick wall. So, yeah, great if you can get both but for the home DYI guy starting out I'd opt for thin wall impact.

  • @johnparson2528
    @johnparson25283 жыл бұрын

    Red don’t get those engineers started on heat treating or you will fall a sleep.

  • @ArtVanAuggie
    @ArtVanAuggie3 жыл бұрын

    With the battery powered stuff, you might get by with either, but with air tools, you're going to want the impact sockets. The drive hole is the first thing to go on standard sockets.

  • @randalwilson1795
    @randalwilson1795 Жыл бұрын

    It would be so cool to have toolboxes and tools with your logo! Also I should add, I work the oilfields and use chrome 12 sockets most of the time. I've only had one split on a driveshaft...fortunately it didn't shatter. That being said, if you are wearing the proper PPE this potential injury can be mitigated. PS...never hold a socket by hand when using an impact.

  • @trentvlak
    @trentvlak Жыл бұрын

    I really like how you have this cartoon bear so I don't have to look at your face.

  • @ozzymandius666
    @ozzymandius6663 жыл бұрын

    Lotsa variation in quality of steel. I remember back in the 1980s, cheap but thick sockets deforming like butter, while good Mac or Snap-On sockets, while a lot thinner, could take me jumping up and down on the end of a 36" Johnson bar.

  • @G56AG
    @G56AG3 жыл бұрын

    I always wondered about what the difference really was.

  • @johngeiger176
    @johngeiger1762 жыл бұрын

    also it depends on the size of your fastener what are you trying to break loose also what are you trying to tighten those fasteners down to?

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