Christopher Hitchens - [2009] - 'Why does god matter' vs David Wolpe
December 2, 2009.
Christopher Hitchens and David Wolpe debated at The College at Brockport.
Topic: "Why Does god Matter?"
Moderated by BSG Vice President, Nathan Herbert.
[00:05] Intro
[01:34] Christopher Hitchens
[17:00] David Wolpe
[33:18] Christopher Hitchens
[44:37] David Wolpe
[56:20] Christopher Hitchens
[1:04:14] David Wolpe
[1:10:02] Audience Q&A
Credit to: / brockportstudentgovt
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Man, I miss Christopher Hitchens. Without a doubt one of the greatest minds of the second half of the 20th century and first decade of the 21st. R.I.P. comrade....
@tellmo25
8 жыл бұрын
if only I had known him. :(
@TrippySuccubus
2 жыл бұрын
I say one of the greatest ever.
I love this man. The most sensible , intelligent, reasonable, person I have known in my 70+years. BRAVO. YOU people are so blessed to hear this man.
@MattSingh1
11 ай бұрын
*I guess this commenter is dead by now.*
@kaiavonwilkinson2256
6 ай бұрын
She is. She was my Mammaw, and she was amazing. @@MattSingh1
Oh how I miss the late great Hitch..a giant of a man, so desperately needed in this world. Me perennial regret is to never have met him. 😭 I really like Wolpe, he's passionate about his beliefs, well read, a good speaker, he really believed he was a good match for Hitch 🤣🤣 To this day, nobody even comes close to the likes of the late great Hitch, a giant of a man. I do wish he didn't need to leave the party. So glad that I get to enjoy and learn from him with all his wonderful teachings. My perennial regret is that I didn't get the honor of meeting him, yet I feel I know him quite well. I'm so very grateful for all he's taught me. We must continue his plight with equal passion and facts...
I could eat a tin of Alphabet Spaghetti and excrete more sense than Wolpe
When you think about it, if you believe in god, then you have to admit that god decided that Christopher Hitchens should speak first! :p
@SleepyPenguin-8og
2 ай бұрын
Free will. We don't have a choice. -hitchens.
@SleepyPenguin-8og
2 ай бұрын
C. Hitchens*
It's a damn shame the audio for Mr Hitchens was so quiet
It's almost too bad there isn't an afterlife because Christopher Hitchens is one guy I'd love to share about 3 bottles of scotch with. RIP Hitch.
@sophonax661
6 жыл бұрын
Spaced Munky yeah and he'd be the guy who would easily outsmart me even if he drank all three alone...
Hitch wasn't too quiet. Wolpe was just, like all theists in debates, too loud. It's the only way to override intelligent arguments. ;)
There was a moment in the debate (no point specific) where I really thought Wolpe was going to whip out a bottle of Snake Oil.
One of the better formats I've seen for a debate...The coin flip should be instituted in every debate. Also, I liked the idea of the two mics for each speakers during question time ( Gives equal air time for each).
I've watched this match-up between chris and wolpe from 2007, 2008, and this 2009. Whenever the rabbi even comes close to "scoring a point," it's usually because he either intentionally misrepresents a point or intentionally misunderstands one.
@TMcCamby
5 ай бұрын
Absolutely true. Wolpe is sooo dishonest
Why do theists constantly assume that a universe that does not include anything truly "spiritual" (whatever that even means) is somehow inferior. By what basis do they arrive at this conclusion?
As an atheist father, it is extremely disgusting and telling that Wolpe thinks a parent can only show deep compassion and connection with their child if their god instructs them to. He's saying that he cannot fathom that another father (or mother, but we all know how the patriarchy works) outside of his faith can be close enough to their child without the guidance of god. What a bunch of bullshit. I hope he's ashamed of himself, especially using a personal story to cloak his disrespectful attitude towards the rest of us.
Always enjoyable listening to Christopher Hitchens. The cameraman and audio guy were apparently stoned.
Rabbi Wolpe just delivers a relentless sermon. Then answers every question or challenge with another set-piece. By contrast, Hitchens comes across as intelligent and well-read; open-minded, and able to think for himself. The rabbii summed this up as "the tricks of your mind close the opening of your heart". He failed to get out of his pulpit and failed to answer any of the key questions.
The core problem seems really to be that humans don't understand the nature of their own consciousness. Not knowing how it works obviously is scary or frustrating, therefore different cultures invented explanations for it. Nobody knows or can know if we are only bodies or not - and what would be wrong with that? Matter matters and bodies can be gorgeous without the concept of a soul.
The rabbi's argument for god summed up is that we all have good feelings now and then - and no one can tell you that you don't so "god matters." In other words - any comforting delusion will do if this is all the value you put into a proposition's truth value.
Placing your hands on your sons head and blessing him is ok. Showing your kid how to replace the heads on an old chevy? BETTER
Anyone whom entered a room of debate with hitchens had his work cut out.
Bravo
48:20 Yes, and faith and interperetation as symbolism allows religious leaders to make themselves immune to criticism and faith in particular eliminates methods of error correction by decoupling with the check of experiment.
Sound is awful.
This rabbi is a weasel
The rabbi is confident about things he has little grounding for. Another way of saying that is that he is not afraid of telling lies, of making claims he could not know to be true because the standard for actual truth is more rigorous than his own.
Christopher was learned about events but often mistaken about science. Shame no-one managed to correct him on that stuff.
@zaddyjacquescormery6613
9 ай бұрын
What’s an example of his mistakenness about science?
@alexanderx33
9 ай бұрын
@@zaddyjacquescormery6613 This video from Cody's Lab gives you an intuitive sense of why Christophers statements about the "collision" of the andromeda galaxy with the milkyway galaxy was a (likely unintentional) red herring due to ignorance of scale. From the perspective of the solar system, a galactic collision is totally irrelevant to life on this planet. m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/lneHq7qFed3Oqs4.html&pp=ygUjY29keXNsYWIgZGlzdGFuY2UgYmV0d2VlbiB0aGUgc3RhcnM%3D
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Dread the day we will not be allowed to watch anything advocating free thought.
Hitchens entire belief that God does not exists rests solely on the theory of evolution. Take that away and the house of cards will fall, God rest his soul and hopefully he had a death bed conversion. Or we can at least assume he is no longer an atheist, one way or the other.
@jonathanrussell1140
2 ай бұрын
Good luck taking down the Theory of Evolution. Whatcha got, Ken Ham-actor, Kunt Hovind, Spike Pissaris? Do tell...
I miss his intellect, his wit and charm.
R. I. P hitch❤️