😬Mistakes I Made Learning To Write Music kzread.info/dash/bejne/fqeputmtgtrNh7Q.html

Just him saying that non-diatonic progressions are nonfunctional harmony, and it's better to think about the color than anything else, just opened my mind. So simple,,yet so big

@orangepearlf40

Жыл бұрын

yea, never thought of it that way but it works.

@Grigoriy1996

Жыл бұрын

Actually, he's precisely right because broadly speaking all parallel or relative chords are the same function by which logic all 24 basic triads can be separated into 3 groups where all the chords that are minor third up or down are basically the same function, so there's no change in function when using flat third modulation method like here because practically all of these chords are the same function.

@RobinsMusic

7 ай бұрын

@@Grigoriy1996what about chords that are tritones apart, I think they’re also nonfunctional

@Grigoriy1996

7 ай бұрын

@@RobinsMusic or the "same function". That's why triton substitutions exist. Basically, triton substitutions fall under this category of relative and parallel chords being somewhat the "same" function because chords that are triton apart are relative for a relative chord (a minor third + a minor third equals a triton).

@Channel-io1di

6 ай бұрын

​@Grigoriy1996 what does it mean to say "function"? Everything you're saying is above my head.

OK. There is a basic concept here sometimes know as "multi tonic systems." This happens when you divide the chromatic scale (12 notes) by any number that will divide evenly: 2, 3, 4, 6. In this case Ryan has divided the chromatic scale by 3 (ending up with major 3rds: C, E G#) and 4 (ending up with minor thirds: C, Eb, Gb, A). This will also work with dividing by 2 (tritone C, Gb; listen to the opening phrase of Debussy's Prélude à l’Aprés-Midi d’un Faune) and 6 (whole steps C, D, E, F#, G#, A#). Shifting the chord root to any of these gives pretty much the same effect because it moves away from the diatonic and leaves the listener in tonal no-man's land. Try it!

@inanitas

22 күн бұрын

I don't know much about music theory this "advanced" (for me it's advanced, idk if it really is). But I just viewed Venus Theorys video on reharmonization. Is this the same? When I compared the changes here to the circle of fifths changes he talked about it was following the rules he presented.

@iamtheimagedoctor

21 күн бұрын

@@inanitas You can start off and just play a chord on each division of the octave. For instance: C major, Eb major, Gb major, A major (and back to C). Then add a short melody such as do re mi fa sol (C D E F G on the C chord). And do the same on each chord (Eb F G Ab Bb on the Eb chord, etc). Then add a second chord C Dm C on the C chord, Eb Fm Eb on the Eb chord, etc.) You can make each phrase as long as you want, maybe 4 bars on the C key, 4 bars on the Eb key, 4 bars on the Gb Key, 4 bars on the A key.. Or pick a song (like the Beatles Yesterday) and play 4 bars in the original key of F, the 4 bars in Ab, 4 bars in B, 4 bars in D. You'll get a sense of how "multi tonic systems" can be used to get a "floating" feeling o never landing or needing to resolve to any key.

@inanitas

21 күн бұрын

@@iamtheimagedoctor Thank you :) I'm not classically trained though and I sadly can't even play an instrument. I make music digitally. But I'll programm it into my DAW and play around with it

hey man, new subscriber here. loved your no bulshit attitude and straight to 1. explaining 2. demonstrating 3. showing probabilities of application of the concept keep up the good work, looking forward to learning from this channel. thanks!

@RyanLeach

3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate it, I'm hoping people come away with idea or techniques they can actually use.

Fantastic, very well explained, concise and easy to understand. Really like the fact these videos go to the point quickly and stay on point, it really feels as I’m learning instead of getting ‘entertained’ if that makes any sense.

@RyanLeach

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much, it really is my hope that people can take these ideas and put them to use immediately.

@dpwaldman3145

Жыл бұрын

I totally relate. I do not go to these videos for entertainment, or excessive ‘personality’. Ryan’s videos are great!!

@Pikermanertjie

Жыл бұрын

@@dpwaldman3145 I absolutely agree with you. What you call entertainment or excessive personality, I like to call distraction. This channel is pure gold. Thank you Ryan. You are an educator that is absolutely concise, articulate and adds tremendous value to the art of music. Much appreciated. 👌

The minor to minor example nailed the music to Elder Scrolls 2: Daggerfall

This channel is a hidden gem

This guy is good. I subscribe to so many music channels (Beato, Neely, David Bennett, Signals, David Bruce, etc etc.) - yes and, Ryan offers great (and well articulated) APPLIED theory. I feel like I can move from his videos right to doing something with them immediately. Bravo, Ryan,

I've been hearing this shift-a-third trick flipping EVERYWHERE and have been searching for a name to attach to it! This video is an excellent explanation and I'll send it to the next person I need to explain the Hollywood Sound trick to

The simplicity of the examples is really perfect for showcasing this technique! Thanks for the awesome content!

@RyanLeach

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

Fantastic lesson. Never thought in this way. Opened my eyes....and my ears!

Unless you're really good at reading a script, you definitely know your stuff. The presentation in all your videos is smooth and easy to follow. Excellent work!

When I try to write songs, I get tired of the same 1-4-5 and their relative minors that sound so stale. I want to try new combinations, so I subbed.

Thank you this is the second video of yours I have watched and both really helped fill in some missing gaps in my music.

You could have mentioned that these chord relations are called mediants and submediants. This is the kind of harmony that was developed in the mid 1800:s by Wagner, Liszt, Bruckner and Brahms, along with the theoretic teacher Simon Sechter. So film music has its roots in high and late romantic music and its instrumentation.

@treyrmason

Жыл бұрын

You should check out 0:30

Really nice video! Really been liking what you're putting on your channel, hope you continue it!

@RyanLeach

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

This video is so helpful. I always wanted to try new things apart from the usual chord progression or modal interchange. This is one of the jigsaw to my puzzle. Thank you. Share more ideas like this 👍🏻

@RyanLeach

2 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome!

wow this actually blew my mind its the piece of the puzzle I've been looking for thank you sir!

Amazing teacher! Sir - you make complicated things understandable so easy for people like me - I was actually reading lots of reference books and articles to understand these simple (actually you made that sooo simple) "how to achieve epic sound techniques" - by teaching in the easiest way. A thousand thanks again.

@RyanLeach

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind remarks

Thank you for this video Ryan I absolutely got so much from this information.x

Thanks Ryan. You made a big subject very graspable (if that's a word) in just a few minutes.

Ryan, absolutely fantastic stuff, and clearly presented

Amazing and explained very simply. Anyone else here noticed the similarity with the Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning game soundtrack?

I just want to say thank you for the way you explained it all. I had a problem in school because they made me feel like these are rules with they way they explained it. The way you explained it made me feel more like these are just told to use to explain what I'm doing with my music.

I really liked the two examples that used the harp, they reminded me of the track Oversnow from Eric Heberling's soundtracks to Arena And Daggerfall, which makes sense since it has chords moving exactly like this, in a quasi Coltrane-changes major 3rds cycle.

This is so useful information! Thanks a lot!

Great video. Great Explanations! I like your orchestrations in the examples. The last example I experience as discovery or uncovering -- very fantasy-game like. One you could have also mention (which I love) which is an even stronger transition/effect is if you go a tritone away (using minor-minor, or major to major) - it creates either an ominous discovery atmosphere or a wonderous discovery atmosphere -- both terrifying in their own way. John Williams uses this in Indiana Jones when Indiana finds the arc of the covenant --masterful orchestration. Inversions don't matter either, so the counterpoint/voice leading is easy, and lends itself to chromaticism. Happy I found your channel.

This is so cool and perfectly timed. God I love KZread. Thanks for posting this. It's opened up what I thought was even possible.

And all these things is what makes rock music really stand out and sound great!

I *love* this systematic breakdown with concise explanations and examples! And I noticed _Breath of the Wild_ as your desktop background.

well earned sub ! Your content is simply amazing

@RyanLeach

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Another great explainer video Ryan, very useful!

@RyanLeach

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark, I appreciate it!

Great vid!! You should have at least 20x the amount of your current subscribers! Cheers from Argentina, keep it up!

The last one was my favourite!

Really useful information, thanks Ryan 🙂

Bravo, Ryan!

muy buen video...muchas gracias.

This is very helpful!

Great channel, it deserves a lot more attention! 👍

@RyanLeach

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, if you have any ideas on how to make they happen I’ll take them!

Thanks 🙏🌷

Your shirt is giving me life!

Wow really nice video! Thank you for the tips. I subscribed to your channel and I can see that there is a lot of very interesting content. I'm gonna dive deeper into the orchestration section since I'm trying to improve it on my own

@RyanLeach

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks and welcome! If you use Discord come say hello: discord.gg/YCpmQVepu9

@nicolaberti7698

2 жыл бұрын

@@RyanLeach Thanks for replying! Yep, I already joined the Discord channe, thanks!

Thanks!

It could have just been the use of 3/4 and harp but in the final example I got strong Danny Elfman vibes. The way he uses unexpected chord progressions to create a strong narrative for the actions on screen.

This is awesome 👏

Excellent! I am neither a native English speaker nor having a conservatory degree, maybe can be labled an amateur. But your explanations make me understand clearly in each video. Thank you at the bottom of my heart, dear sir.

Awesome, I didnt even know that this was even posible.

So dope!! Thanks man

@RyanLeach

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I appreciate it!

This is some good shit. Very well explained and structured video. Subscribed.

Brilliant, Thanks!

@RyanLeach

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

Impressive Ryan. Not even John Williams himself could have explained it better... simply, chapeau !!! 🎩🎩🎩

A really good method for expressive,lyrical harmony,from pop songs to symphonic,is the link of parallel (as opposed to relative) major and minor tonic. C Major and C minor share the tonic,but are a minor 3rd apart in key signature. The use of both keys doubles the I/IV/V sets to use; C,F,G/Am,Dm,Em/Cm,FmGm/Eb,Ab,Bb.

EXCELLENT Video. Thank you.

@RyanLeach

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I appreciate it!

Really informative

Brilliant content!

@RyanLeach

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Great to find your channel

@RyanLeach

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard!

Subscriber # 233 says Ryan is a good teacher who also knows what he's talking about.

@RyanLeach

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard #233

I cannot believe that I missed this video! Great video Ryan, and just what I was getting into lately! I wanted to ask: could you perhaps make some videos on Kingdoms of Amalur’s great soundtrack? I feel it relates strongly to this video.

@RyanLeach

2 жыл бұрын

Cool, I don't know that one but I'll check it out!

@NickTsatsalmas

Жыл бұрын

That's a great soundtrack and game Paulo. I also commented on the similarity. These patterns seem heavily used by Grant Kirkhope. I'd also like to see a video on it.

Wow that minor to minor gave immediate Star Wars vibes

Obrigado, Ryan

@RyanLeach

3 жыл бұрын

De nada!

Hello, Ryan. For the minor to minor segment (6:00), the sample you gave sounded like "the wolf" theme in Prokofiev's "Peter and the Wolf".

The last example could be used well in an 'unhinged' scenario. The colours of happiness within the sad have a very uneasy and false quality. Really interesting.

🔥

good vid

👏👏👏

Nice channel!

@RyanLeach

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Major up to Major: heroic, super happy, bold, royal, light/quirky Major down to Major: magical,mysterious Major down to Minor: dark, unexpected, sinister Minor to minor: dark,strange Minor to Major: mystic, dark folksy (IMO)

Really interesting. Can you mention some of the movies that you have scored? Thanks

@RyanLeach

2 жыл бұрын

Sure, check out Candy Jar on Netflix: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y6CMrqmwlcKqhbg.html Some others on a variety of streaming platforms are Fire City: End of Days, Skinning, Pastor Shepherd, Miles Between Us. Lots of indie films!

This opened up a lot of chords for me which is exactly what I was looking for. Love the "insider tip". What else do you have? :)

@RyanLeach

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Once I get through this orchestration series I'm sure there will be more harmony ones coming.

@wsimpson53

3 жыл бұрын

@@RyanLeach Excellent! And I LOVE the orchestration series too! So good!!

Essential this is using chromatic mediants and double chromatic mediants

What software do you use for the classical music? It’s great

Phenomenal video! Is there any particular reason why you focused chords that are separated by major and minor thirds?

@RyanLeach

3 жыл бұрын

It might be because of the way the roots relate to each other. With root motion by 4ths/5ths or 2nds/7ths you get feelings of very strong functional progressions. If I go from C to Fm it feels like I'm moving to a new level of gravity. But the thirds relationships don't have that so you can change the color and mood without also affecting that sense of ground.

@tylercooney

3 жыл бұрын

@@RyanLeach Great explanation!

Everything sounds really john williams😍

am filipina little english if i learn i join mean if clear explained thank you

Excellent video as always! Isn’t this all called chromatic mediants and chromatic submediants?

@RyanLeach

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yea I think I made a passing reference to that term in the video, but I think it's a bit abstract and makes it sound more difficult than it really is. Also I think if you're being super strict a chromatic mediant has to share a common tone and be the same type (major to major only), so it wouldn't include something like C major to Eb minor.

@C_C0101

3 жыл бұрын

@@RyanLeach IMO that’s the best type of teaching, specially when we are talking about informal teaching. Simplifying terms so they are easier to understand but still making a reference to the proper terminology is a great strategy. You are not trying to show off your knowledge, you’re passing it on in a way that is easy to digest for your audience/students, kudos my friend.

Great video.What are the samples used here?

@RyanLeach

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! That's NotePerformer in Sibelius.

@weskoki

2 жыл бұрын

@@RyanLeach Haha when did it become so good?

Great video, but the captions desync at the 2min mark roughly

@RyanLeach

2 жыл бұрын

Weird, thanks for the heads up!

@Arycke

2 жыл бұрын

@@RyanLeach sure thing, thanks for responding I appreciate it.

Last example felt like 80% of Danny Elfman's work.

A great example of an effect similar to the minor to 3rd major is Brittien's "Balulalow" from "A Ceremony of Carols," in which he almost continuously switches between f# minor and F# major, and then adds a jump from f# minor to C major: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y52lqLp-krbKmrA.html The result is a very modal-sounding piece, that also happens to be one of the most beautiful musical work ever created.

05:42 Yeah, Howard Shore Lord of the Rings Technique

new subscriber here ! if you could show us a keyboard to demonstrate chords it will be great !

@RyanLeach

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! I've been trying to do that recently. This is an old video for me, I didn't know how to do that yet lol

@yvanroustan4426

2 жыл бұрын

@@RyanLeach Perfect ! thank you

For melody, how do you construct this since you cannot just play diatonic notes. Playing so many chords outside of the key makes it hard. Do you simply play chord tones since there is not really a scale to follow?

@esjel9804

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't recommend venturing out from chord tones (maybe a suspension (sus4) when returning to the first chord), as the first chord in the sequence pretty much presents the key, and the next chord is like a temporary modulation, but not really. You can experiment with passing tones of the key presented by the first chord, but I would keep it simple and stick to chord tones and especially arpeggios, that's the simplest for this effect.

Hi Ryan, What are some of films, video games, commercials, tec., have you scored ? This is NOT a challenge, just a simple question to give me an idea of your output. Thanks, Bill P.

@RyanLeach

Жыл бұрын

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Your Gm….Ebm…….Gm…..Bbm progression is very reminiscent of something Bernard Herrman might have written in, for example, Jason and the Argonauts soundtrack.

@RyanLeach

2 жыл бұрын

Yea I totally know what you mean. Seventh Voyage of Sinbad is a favorite Hermann score of mine!

So, there’s always a relation with a tonic? If I insert a chord by a 3rd to other chords in a progression, it won’t be considered as chr mediant?? Thnx bro❤

This would be much easier to follow if you played the chord after you named it, so that those of us who aren't familiar with terminology but have it in their ear already could catch up Consider it a translation job, similar to subtitling, for, uh, the anti-deaf

@RyanLeach

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip, I'll try to be more mindful of keeping the talking and playing in sync in future videos!

What's another music theory/harmony topic you want to see a video on?

@e7mac693

3 жыл бұрын

I've lately been into secondary dimished so would like an exploration there at some point to add to the secondary dominant video. I'd also be interested in a video on composing beginning / middle / end and what each bit entails.

@RyanLeach

3 жыл бұрын

@@e7mac693 One thing I quickly realized once I started this channel is that I will never run out of ideas for videos to make!

Some people just have a gift for understanding harmony and music this guys is a genius

Okay so how do you ACTUALLY use modes?? Music isn't just Harmony there's also bass movement there's also melody, Harmony supports the melody, so how do you use modes with these out of key chords?

Danny Elfman tutorial

Breath of the Wild desktop background?

“is sad” literally just a dog

“This emphasis is not on harmonic movement, but instead color and effect.” Would you say that this is one of the things that sets film music apart from other kinds of Western music?

@RyanLeach

Жыл бұрын

Hm not necessarily, I think the same could be said of a lot of electronic dance music for just one example

@d.harrison1570

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. What does set film music apart from other kinds of music? Or is that a question that’s too huge for a KZread comment? I loved the content.

@RyanLeach

Жыл бұрын

@@d.harrison1570 Film music must serve the story, but a song on the radio or piece in a concert does not have to

Great videos, but not reading notes, it would be super helpful if you could show it on the piano keys as well. PS: I do expect to pick up reading notes eventually, but right now I have enough with trying to muddle along on a keyboard lol.

3:25 Technically D & F are VI & VII chords of G mixolydian. I dunno. The rest of the tune could go G - Am - G - C - G - D - Am - Geeeeeeeeeeeeeee for all we know,.

Well technically the Ab/C is not a chromatic mediant because it’s not in root position, and there are theorists saying that changing the mode of the chord (going from major to minor or vice versa) is not a chromatic mediant either…

To much theory for my opinion. Lets jump straight to the practise.