Choosing Your First Hand Plane For Woodworking

Today I wanted to answer a common question when it comes to hand planes - which one should you buy first? I go through the reasons for my choice and explain why, if I could have only one plane, this would be it. This discussion is based on my choice of plane in regards to the size and doesn't take account of the brand or whether I feel you should buy new or old etc.
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  • @tompearce6312
    @tompearce63122 жыл бұрын

    Just blows my mind how much there is to learn in woodworking. A real life's study

  • @jeremybarker7923
    @jeremybarker79239 жыл бұрын

    I am a newbie woodworker and wanted to purchase my first plane, but had no clue where to start. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Awesome video!

  • @locksmith1487
    @locksmith14876 жыл бұрын

    Nice video. Short enough to keep my attention and you made a good point I had yet to consider as a low-budget complete novice hobbyist. While I've considered the idea of two blades and one jack plane, I never considered how far back the mouth sits and its affect on balance and forgiveness due to lack of skill. Thank you!

  • @yetanotherperson6436
    @yetanotherperson64365 жыл бұрын

    I have watched a quite a few videos about scrub planes and jack planes. I haven't heard anyone else talk about the amount of flat surface before the cutting edge. That makes so much sense. I didn't know whether to use a no. 4 or 5 as a scrub. I do now. Thank you.

  • @MrJsteed2009
    @MrJsteed20098 жыл бұрын

    Love the video, sir! I learn something every time I watch! Thanks for your effort and experience!

  • @woodturningjohn
    @woodturningjohn9 жыл бұрын

    Now that I have begun to use hand planes, there is just something about that sound I love. I could watch and listen to a video of shavings coming off all day, if I did not want to play in the shop, lol.

  • @elismith304
    @elismith3042 жыл бұрын

    This was a great video it really cleared things up for me! I was pretty unsure what to start with but now Im much more confident!

  • @MultiWarrior63
    @MultiWarrior639 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Richard, great video and great advice.

  • @christophercastor6666
    @christophercastor66663 жыл бұрын

    In your workshop, and now mine, there is no room for blaming the tools when the plane leaves a crap surface. Masterclass. Thank you -Christopher

  • @nicholasmarchesan1913
    @nicholasmarchesan19139 жыл бұрын

    Found a Stanley no 5 in my dads old tool box. It was in parts but once I put it together and sharpened up the blade it worked fine. Got to admit that it is one of my favourite planes as well.

  • @tsuresuregusa
    @tsuresuregusa9 жыл бұрын

    great video Richard! I like how you classify the plane on how is set up instead of the length, very japanese. They have only 2 sizes for bench planes, "jack" and jointer and the difference lays in the mouth, the camber of the blade and how deep the blade is set. Love the feeling of your workshop too :)

  • @deezynar
    @deezynar9 жыл бұрын

    Good advice. When I started out I read Alan Peters' book and followed his advice, I had only a block plane, and a jointer plane. Peters makes good sense advocating the jointer, but I agree with you, those things are ungainly. I now have added a scrub, a jack, and a smoother. Things prefer having all of them.

  • @EvanDunville
    @EvanDunville9 жыл бұрын

    Great video if I had to choose one it would be my #6 i really like the extra width and mass. Great videos I liked your bench dog hole drilling jig will be using it on my new bench.

  • @rodneytransier8847
    @rodneytransier88479 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for another great video. As a beginner your videos help tremendously. Can you do a video on how to refurbish and set up a plane and how to properly use one. Thanks again!

  • @biblegirl2980
    @biblegirl29808 жыл бұрын

    I purchased a mirrored dresser and the outside wood veneer molding is about 28 1/2 inch wide but the space is 28 inches so this video was great because it will solve my issue. Thanks

  • @LolitasGarden
    @LolitasGarden9 жыл бұрын

    Bravo. Great advice. Thank you!

  • @TheEnglishWoodworker

    @TheEnglishWoodworker

    9 жыл бұрын

    Many thanks :)

  • @thenlnlkn
    @thenlnlkn Жыл бұрын

    Thank you bruv! you’re a legend bruv! that’s all I needed to know & you said it so well. Blessings to you and your family My g

  • @fish37
    @fish379 жыл бұрын

    Another great video! I would agree, my first was the #5...but if I could do it over, I would have purchased a new low angle jack with a couple of different blades for the same reasons you pointed out and just got on with making shavings.

  • @TheEnglishWoodworker

    @TheEnglishWoodworker

    9 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Fish, I completely agree, for versatility the low angle Jack is king.

  • @truebluekit
    @truebluekit9 жыл бұрын

    Hi Richard, love this vid! Seriously, you leave me in awe with your insight. You mentioned that you have a straight blade in your smoother. If I may ask, 1. Is your smoother blade completely straight, with no camber? 2. Or do you round off the corners? 3. If your smoothing blade is completely straight and unbroken, are plane tracks in the wood a problem, and if they're not, how do you ensure that the plane does not leave tracks? Would really appreciate any feedback on this. Keep the vids coming brother.

  • @FrodoMcNuggets
    @FrodoMcNuggets Жыл бұрын

    The satisfaction I get from the sound of a plane cutting a perfect shaving rivals almost all other satisfaction in life.

  • @nkapon
    @nkapon9 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for another excellent video! I like very much your channel, I've been learning traditional carpentry for like 7 years now and recently I've opened my own workshop, just impossible to carry on working at home... I learn so much from your videos. Is it possible to take some kind of a course or workshop with you?

  • @JesusvonNazaret
    @JesusvonNazaret9 жыл бұрын

    Could you make a video about bench finishes? I'm currently working on a bench top bench to bring small jobs up a bit (save my back)

  • @gnunixguru
    @gnunixguru6 жыл бұрын

    OMG, subscribed on the candle as wax. Love your channel. Did you ever make the video about how to make plane irons or backs flat?

  • @francisbarnett
    @francisbarnett9 жыл бұрын

    jack, rebate and block are the only three I own, I agree on the jack is a versatile tool. Love this channel, keep up the good work.

  • @TheEnglishWoodworker

    @TheEnglishWoodworker

    9 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Francis, that's a sound group of planes.

  • @rulesnut
    @rulesnut9 жыл бұрын

    More!! I love your videos

  • @alizadehweshky
    @alizadehweshky9 жыл бұрын

    hi, it was a great video, i am gettng into woodworking and getting my tool list together, my first plane was going to be a jack plane, but wich one would you recommend? new or vintage? and what brand? budget is a thing that i have to bare in mind though. ps. keep up the good work

  • @Ray2001ify
    @Ray2001ify7 жыл бұрын

    THANKS FOR THIS

  • @DessieTots
    @DessieTots8 ай бұрын

    Haha! My older Stanley Bailey No.5 turned up on Tuesday this week. Wait till I show this video to my wife. However an amateur woodworker, even as bad as me can’t have enough planes.

  • @tonyennis3008
    @tonyennis30084 жыл бұрын

    I agree about the #5; it's a solid choice. I don't know if it was my first plane, but it is certainly the first one I reach for. Paul Sellers uses a #4 almost exclusively. Of course, he's Paul Sellers.

  • @lynxg4641
    @lynxg4641 Жыл бұрын

    Great video, exactly what I was thinking as I've gotten back into wood working in the last couple years. Managed to find 2 old, used No.4s, but as you note, the toe is very short, hard to reference. So I'm curious, if you were going to buy your first new plane now, would it still be the No.5 or would you go for the No.62 low angle if price was about the same on both? Both of course with 2 blade options/setups.

  • @TheEnglishWoodworker
    @TheEnglishWoodworker9 жыл бұрын

    Hi Jesus, the best finish on a bench for practical use is no finish - makes it nice and grippy. But if you're wanting protection then I'd say boiled linseed oil 50/50 with turps is a good place to start. Just make sure it's thoroughly dried before you use it.

  • @rogeranderson8763

    @rogeranderson8763

    2 жыл бұрын

    If one does use linseed oil, be very careful to NOT get any down the dogholes......please do not ask me how I know this. -Veteran '66-68 (Why? well, it takes months to get dry enough to let the holdfasts grip and they will NEVER hold quite as well as against dry bare wood)

  • @Canalcoholic
    @Canalcoholic3 жыл бұрын

    6:00 “it’s shagged, already it’s knackered”. Beautiful use of the English language.

  • @bobsieshow
    @bobsieshow8 жыл бұрын

    i have just bought the stanley jack plane no 5. but rather than buy a smoothing plane i would rather just get the blade i dont know how to get the right blade that will fit in my stanley jack plane no 5 body. any ideas

  • @bdormer1
    @bdormer19 жыл бұрын

    First plane - block plane. You'll use it all the time on every project. And you can learn most of what you need to know about sharpening and using a plane from working with it. Also, they are relatively cheap. First BENCH plane - Jack plane, 2 irons. You are absolutely correct on that.

  • @DavidKirtley
    @DavidKirtley9 жыл бұрын

    For me, it would be a toss up between a jack and a block plane as a first plane. The jack is a really handy size (perfect for 80% of anything you would do with a plane) and the registration on the toe mentioned in the video does make a big difference but the block is so useful for many jobs, convenient to carry, and an adjustable mouth block plane will do as well at smoothing as anything else. If you are looking for a jack plane, there are two other variations on the jack that are worth considering but are not quite as common. The Stanley 5-1/2 and 5-1/4 size planes. If you are a larger person, the 5-1/2 is a very nice size. A bit bigger than the number 5. If you are of smaller stature, the 5-1/4 (also called the junior jack) can be a lot easier on your arms. They were mainly marketed to schools.

  • @5000loto

    @5000loto

    9 жыл бұрын

    David Kirtley I second the 5 1/4 junior jack plane. I have one that I’ve used for years as a smoother and a workhorse with a home made toothed blade. The thinner width of cut (1 3/4 ? as I recall) and the toothed blade lets me do the first flattening and squaring of medium (even large) stock. My first two planes were an old 9 1/2 block plane and a standard #5 jack plane. Once I learned to sharpen and set up properly they saw me through many years.

  • @ugaladh

    @ugaladh

    6 жыл бұрын

    my first plane, before I really got into woodworking was a cheap Stanlely #4 because that's what you see around and that's what dad had ( not a woodworker but jack-of-all-trades). my next plane , as I knew more was a #5 1/2 which is now my most used plane, I liked the slightly longer size than a #5 without getting into the longer joiner planes. I do not yet own a Low angle Jack plane, but keep hearing about their versatility and would look into that if you were just getting started. By the way, that original cheap #4 wasn't wasted, I retuned it into a decent "Scrub" plane.

  • @markharris5771

    @markharris5771

    5 жыл бұрын

    David Kirtley HI David, I realise it’s three years since you made this comment and you might not reply but I’m a newbie and I’m really intrigued with what you said. I actually bought a Record 5 1/2 yesterday. So far I’ve only used block plane on end grain and taking off sharp edges, I’ve never even considered using it on the body of my timber. Matt Estlea in one of his videos suggests putting a bevel on both sides of the iron on a No.4 as one way to approach knarly wood, which I have done using a new Stanley Bailey No. 4. I now have 3 No. 4s an old one from around 1940 which is my smoothing plane, my old one which is the best plane I own and a cheap plane I’ve opened the mouth on and put a camber on the blade as my scrub plane. Do you think I'm going in the right direction or should I change now before I get into bad habits. I’m very much 'KZread taught' so I know I will be getting a lot of things wrong, any advice would be greatly appreciated.

  • @nixonwu1754
    @nixonwu17545 жыл бұрын

    Did you buy your plane at a store online? If yes, could you leave a link

  • @agostinho_9170
    @agostinho_91707 жыл бұрын

    Great video! What is your opinion about the old Record planes in comparison to Stanley? I just bought an old Record No 120 Block plane from ebay but as I've only used Stanley so don't know what to expect. Any advice?

  • @thecaravan1

    @thecaravan1

    7 жыл бұрын

    As you have no reply, I'll chime in. Record are very good tools, British, and In my opinion they are better than Stanley, who's quality control has always been lacking.

  • @mm9773
    @mm97735 жыл бұрын

    Your woofing plane for the woofing work?

  • @ThePillenwerfer
    @ThePillenwerfer9 жыл бұрын

    I'd agree with the Number 5 as they are heavier than 4s so easier to use. A 5½ would be even better in that regard but more expensive.

  • @steersman-zv2ng
    @steersman-zv2ng7 жыл бұрын

    I have a 5 but i PREFER my 5 1/2.But you are right even a wooden 5 is a good size.Fuck changing irons just get 2 no 5s then!The only 2 planes you'll ever need.

  • @JimDockrellWatertone
    @JimDockrellWatertone9 жыл бұрын

    Sound reasoning. I have never heard of anyone being able to buy only one plane. Once you start, you just can't help looking for more!...lol.

  • @TheEnglishWoodworker

    @TheEnglishWoodworker

    9 жыл бұрын

    How very true... I swear I have breeding couples!

  • @Tome4kkkk
    @Tome4kkkk8 жыл бұрын

    Regarding Stanley No.5. Can I trust the quality of the latest batches of Stanley planes and just go and buy a recent 12-005 model?

  • @crookedriver2079

    @crookedriver2079

    7 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't buy a new Stanley plane. Go to a reputable dealer like "The Best Things" and get a pre 1950 Stanley #5 or 5-1/2. Talk to them about it they wont steer you wrong. One of those WWII or earlier Stanleys IS BETTER THAN ANY STANLEY YOU CAN BUY TODAY !! (They're made in china) Not kidding. Same with the Stanley block planes (I would NEVER consider buying a modern chinese Stanley block plane - not to mention: for the same or more money?? NEVER).

  • @Tome4kkkk

    @Tome4kkkk

    7 жыл бұрын

    Ah, I was diving for a handplane this entire 12 months. I came to the same conclusion. The current Stanleys are no better than any other Chinese or Indian made cheapos on the market. Some extra conclusion to add - pre or post WWII, it doesn't matter *that* much. Stanley bench planes are of flawed design with overlapping inacuracies. I went with traditional wooden planes with solid thick irons (some laminated!), unlike Stanley pre or post WWII 2 mm thick lasagnas. Remove some rust or pitting and you're left with something... cringeworthy.

  • @crookedriver2079

    @crookedriver2079

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Tome4kkkk You're cringeworthy.

  • @Tome4kkkk

    @Tome4kkkk

    7 жыл бұрын

    :)

  • @JW77
    @JW775 жыл бұрын

    Wow I could never plane against grain like that. It's amazing.

  • @pagurotraduzioni202
    @pagurotraduzioni2027 жыл бұрын

    What does the number express, N. 4, N. 5, etc.? Thanks,

  • @thecaravan1

    @thecaravan1

    7 жыл бұрын

    It relates to the length of the plane bed, bigger number, longer plane. The 1/2 sizes have a have a wider cut.

  • @Kikilang60
    @Kikilang608 жыл бұрын

    I heard that the Stanly plane, and most of the affordable planes have to be worked on, to work.

  • @patrickinottawa27

    @patrickinottawa27

    7 жыл бұрын

    Even the more expensive planes require a bit of fine tuning.

  • @nigelmtb
    @nigelmtb6 жыл бұрын

    Clumbersome?

  • @ILikeCatsMoreThanILikeYou

    @ILikeCatsMoreThanILikeYou

    5 жыл бұрын

    No good for the ten-be-ten

  • @greenpedal370
    @greenpedal3704 жыл бұрын

    Audio is a bit low

  • @TheRealCAPerry
    @TheRealCAPerry4 жыл бұрын

    It’s like a setting from ‘Prime Suspect’...

  • @maryprather696
    @maryprather6965 жыл бұрын

    I am a beginner and I only have the basic hand tools (skill saw, drill, chop saw, etc). So which plane would you recommend for me?

  • @lilystrong9870
    @lilystrong98703 жыл бұрын

    Bought a no.5 after watching this video

  • @1959Berre
    @1959Berre4 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful accent, reminds me of the Netflix series "Peaky Blinders". Great video, btw. Well explained.

  • @johnwealthy6044
    @johnwealthy60444 жыл бұрын

    I chose a No5 Jack and I am so dissapointed with it. My 10 year old Stanley block plane that has been stuck up in my loft worked better than my new £115 first plane. What a disaster. To have 5 more walnut doors to trim (all 4 sides) is going to be a now very long sweaty task. I did not expect to have to do polishing/ sharpening / honing on a plane that expensive. Maybe my naivity but as I ordered over the phone with the company and explained my lack of woodworking experience, I would have expected better help. I went to a woodworking company rather than Wickes but now kind of regret it. I'm going to have to spend quite a lot more money on sharpening gear. Not happy at all.

  • @BariumCobaltNitrog3n
    @BariumCobaltNitrog3n8 жыл бұрын

    Does he know there are two cameras?

  • @ivwoodworking1034
    @ivwoodworking10348 жыл бұрын

    Seriously, why don't people call you the "Jon Snow of woodworking"?

  • @MrHarleythedevil
    @MrHarleythedevil5 жыл бұрын

    "The only plane you NEED," is all well and good. But how about, "all the planes you WANT". And I want all 115 of mine.

  • @michaelwright1852
    @michaelwright1852 Жыл бұрын

    You really need a better microphone

  • @ClamsAnonymous
    @ClamsAnonymous4 жыл бұрын

    Dude WHY would you have that sound at the beginning of your video? It's louder than your speaking voice.