Choosing Breeding Stock: Controversial Standards

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Today, we share insights into our selection process for breeding stock, exploring the heritability of traits and the use of tools like index numbers and scoring. Join the conversation on the complexities of evaluating sheep and the challenges of selecting replacement stock. We discuss the criteria we are looking for, and we offer up food for thought as to traits that may or may not be heritable or desirable. We challenge whether or not index numbers or scoring are scientifically viable based on the large number of variables involved in evaluating sheep and therefore suggest that these tools instead be used solely as a guide, rather than for selection of replacement stock.
Watch as we document the weaning process of our January-born lambs from both the Suffolk and Dorset groups. After a lot of running groups back and forth between barns, we finally had all the ewes and lambs in the correct barns.
Stay tuned for more thought-provoking discussions and debate in future episodes! #LambWeaning #BreedingCriteria #EvaluatingSheep
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  • @justinanovak8040
    @justinanovak804016 күн бұрын

    Your flock looks amazing… but even more important to me is health, mortality/illness. Animals are expensive we can’t afford struggling (vetting, me or vet, extra time nursing, extra time catching up) and then possibly dying. Your flock is very healthy and hearty. Love the thoughtful conversation.❤️🐑

  • @EwetopiaFarms

    @EwetopiaFarms

    16 күн бұрын

    Thanks, Justina. Knock on wood, but yes, we are lucky to have a very healthy and robust flock!🙂

  • @JABn4e
    @JABn4e16 күн бұрын

    Sheep can get a little mule headed it seems. 😂 The size of Moses, WOW! Great information today. I’m looking forward to the keeper selection and all involved. THANK YOU!!

  • @EwetopiaFarms

    @EwetopiaFarms

    16 күн бұрын

    Moses is a big baby like his dad!🥰

  • @cindyboard7816
    @cindyboard781616 күн бұрын

    Interesting information Lynn!! I understand your view and agree. Numbers can be deceiving when only being viewed on paper. So many variables go into growth and development. It’s difficult to compare apples and oranges. Thanks so much for a great video!! Stay safe!!🙏🏻❤️

  • @KS-ip5xn
    @KS-ip5xn16 күн бұрын

    Good morning from Minnesota 🌲

  • @EwetopiaFarms

    @EwetopiaFarms

    16 күн бұрын

    Morning!

  • @PreciousPatchesFarms
    @PreciousPatchesFarms16 күн бұрын

    Fantastic to listen to the reasoning and it sure makes sense to me. Sometimes the heartstrings still get pulled pretty hard I bet. ❤ 🐑

  • @EwetopiaFarms

    @EwetopiaFarms

    16 күн бұрын

    Yes, absolutely. Nothing is easy 🙂

  • @rhondamitchell5892
    @rhondamitchell589216 күн бұрын

    😊😊😊 More great info. Cant waite till they can go out on the pastures they will be so excited. Wow they look amazing ,me i would take all the little ones im a sucker for small animals.

  • @patriciaruppert201
    @patriciaruppert20116 күн бұрын

    Good morning Arnie and Lynn. The sheep look like soldiers marching. When the sheep fall down they look embarrassed and jump right up saying did anyone see that. 😂😂😂 What a handsome bunch of ram lambs. Professor another very interesting video. I learn something new with each lesson. One of many reasons I watch each day. Thank you so much. Enjoy the evening. Big big hugs to you both. 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰😉😉😉❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @EwetopiaFarms

    @EwetopiaFarms

    16 күн бұрын

    Thank you! You are always a top student too! 🤣🤣🥰🥰🥰

  • @patriciaruppert201

    @patriciaruppert201

    16 күн бұрын

    @@EwetopiaFarms 🥹🥹

  • @justinanovak8040

    @justinanovak8040

    16 күн бұрын

  • @SeanieD1968
    @SeanieD196816 күн бұрын

    Another great education video ❤

  • @EwetopiaFarms

    @EwetopiaFarms

    16 күн бұрын

    Thank you 🙂

  • @AndrewGarkey87
    @AndrewGarkey8714 күн бұрын

    Wonderful video and great knowledge.

  • @EwetopiaFarms

    @EwetopiaFarms

    14 күн бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @jessicacarstairs7520
    @jessicacarstairs752016 күн бұрын

    I hope that weaning went well and that the lambs and their moms both took it well. It was fun seeing the sheep get moved around. The lambs really enjoyed all of that space and it was fun watching them play. They really enjoyed their new hay, they got pretty quiet! I just love Moses. He's growing so fast! Natural breeding seems to work very well on your farm. I like the way you do things. Singles and twins seems like a good goal. I didn't know that mother sheeps bodies create just enough milk for the number of lambs. Finding sub par lambs does sound interesting but difficult probably because of the decision. May is back in the feeder again! She is so naughty lol! I'm looking forward to seeing the lambs grow and also who you will keep. Thanks for another fun video. See you tomorrow. ❤🐑

  • @EwetopiaFarms

    @EwetopiaFarms

    16 күн бұрын

    I am extremely partial to Moses too. He reminds me so much of his dad. Although there are a few more Gladiator sons I'm liking a lot too. He did very well for us again this year. Picking keepers is always difficult but fun too. It's interesting to see who Arnie picks and who I pick. Often we agree but just as often, we probably disagree 😆 Like I said, it's not a science!😁

  • @LavenderLushLuxury
    @LavenderLushLuxury16 күн бұрын

    Are you downsizing again with selling the Dorset Mother Ewes? Awesome video facts 🧡🤍🖤💚

  • @EwetopiaFarms

    @EwetopiaFarms

    16 күн бұрын

    Yes we are

  • @Joyce-bg1jh
    @Joyce-bg1jh16 күн бұрын

    The sheep look so happy in their new barn.Lots of running room.Are you putting them out in the pasture soon?❤️🐑

  • @EwetopiaFarms

    @EwetopiaFarms

    16 күн бұрын

    Stay tuned!😁

  • @debwoods6011
    @debwoods601115 күн бұрын

    Nice video

  • @alisoncummins2726
    @alisoncummins272616 күн бұрын

    My summary: For rams, what matters is genotype. For ewes, both genotype and phenotype matter.

  • @EwetopiaFarms

    @EwetopiaFarms

    16 күн бұрын

    I think both matter for rams and ewes

  • @alisoncummins2726

    @alisoncummins2726

    16 күн бұрын

    @@EwetopiaFarms Because phenotype allows you to guess the genotype? I’m imagining a big, sturdy ram siring two big lambs and one mini lamb on a big, sturdy ewe. If the big sturdy lambs grow up to be big, sturdy rams, we know for sure they have “big, sturdy” genes because they are fully expressing them. If the mini ram grows up to be a medium ram we can *guess* that he has “big, sturdy” genes because of his relatives; because being a triplet can explain why he was born a mini; and because he grew from mini to medium, not mini to small. But we can’t be sure. Even if he has lovely “big, sturdy” genes we can’t see them because he isn’t fully expressing them. Something like that?

  • @EwetopiaFarms

    @EwetopiaFarms

    16 күн бұрын

    @alisoncummins2726 pretty much. In our experience, rarely will a smaller sheep produce bigger lambs that why we select the sturdy phenotype in your example. Basically, what you see is what you get. Then you have to know which traits are highly heritable and which are not. Number of lambs is not highly heritable whereas leg structure is. So many things to consider which is what makes breeding so much fun!

  • @Shadowridgeacres
    @Shadowridgeacres10 күн бұрын

    I stopped my enrolment in Genovis as I found the numbers didnt mean much when I was choosing keeper lambs. It was an extra expense and alot of work weighing lambs and inputing numbers and then deleting each animal manually as they were sold. I was spending too much time in front of my computer and only two people were interested in their numbers. I never paid to do loin scanning as it was going to be an extra expense. I spent money on genetics instead☺️I’m like you, I like looking at the animals, their conformation and take all the other things into consideration. I also find if I dont breed my yearlings that first year, most time they have twins instead of singles, therefore they have already caught up from not being bred too young and having that single. I find first timers are so much better with twins, their udder stays uniform, ease of lambing smaller lambs is so much better on them too. I think your right about time of year, natural breeding and i think lambing yearly regains that ewe up to perfect condition that twins are most likely. Thats the goal right🤣

  • @EwetopiaFarms

    @EwetopiaFarms

    10 күн бұрын

    We are in total agreement!🥰

  • @windsonghillranch4306
    @windsonghillranch430615 күн бұрын

    So, a weird question. We have heard that a yealing ram or buck is much more likely to sire male offspring his first year. It rather seems to be true for us, but we have small flocks. Have you ever seen or noticed this to be true? One year, it was 6 rams, no ewe lambs. Then, 14 rams, 6 ewes. Also, 4 bucklings and 2 doelings. I have not seen any real studies to prove this, but maybe you have a thought? Thanks for all the time and work you put into your excellent videos!

  • @EwetopiaFarms

    @EwetopiaFarms

    15 күн бұрын

    Over the years, it is generally about even for us on boys and girls. I think with a small sample size, the results may look different. But interesting!🙂

  • @rosemacchiarelli4512
    @rosemacchiarelli451216 күн бұрын

    Is Arnie in a bad mood today or needs a break from the ewes

  • @EwetopiaFarms

    @EwetopiaFarms

    16 күн бұрын

    He is very stressed about cropping plus he is very tired. We never get time off. It is hard to always be upbeat when so much depends on you 🙂

  • @pathowes32
    @pathowes3216 күн бұрын

    Very interesting. What will happen to Peggy?

  • @EwetopiaFarms

    @EwetopiaFarms

    16 күн бұрын

    So far, she will be staying here as a pet

  • @pathowes32

    @pathowes32

    16 күн бұрын

    @@EwetopiaFarms great news. I keep looking for her in the videos

  • @EwetopiaFarms

    @EwetopiaFarms

    16 күн бұрын

    You will see her very soon in the video when we vaccinate sheep- part 2 ​@pathowes32

  • @tammykaltreider
    @tammykaltreider16 күн бұрын

    🤍

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