Really nice breakdown, lots of good insight! I know it's not the emphasis of the video, but I thought the Choi counterattack medley at the end was pretty interesting too- I know it's lefty-lefty but his counters pretty much all came with plenty of piste behind him and when Llavador was really trying to push forward and dominate the 6 line and finish in Choi's 4. They weren't last-resort counters, they weren't counters into a low-line prep, or if Llavador hid his blade in 4- it was ONLY when he had that big 6. It really seemed like Choi keyed in on maybe Llavador preferring to finish THROUGH people rather than place the point when his blade was in that spot. It really only left Llavador with the slow march which he seemed less comfortable with (and obviously forced things into Choi's attacks dictating the action as you detailed). I just thought it was interesting since at high level you generally don't see counters utilised as a tactical "Plan A"!

Timestamps: Touch 1: 0:57 Touch 2: 2:17 Touch 3: 3:03 Touch 4: 4:00 Touch 5: 4:53 Touch 6: 5:55 Choi's Counters reel: 7:56 This style of video essay was inspired by Big Bear Fencing's excellent epee channel, make sure to check out the link below and subscribe to Big Bear for epee touch breakdowns! kzread.info/dron/g-YsbVp_L7TnuyMwz5nBmA.html

@jasoneel76

3 жыл бұрын

More please!

Superb analysis!

@OlympicFoil

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! 😃

Very good video and nice to see more and more of these cropping up. Will help everyone with their game.

@OlympicFoil

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad you liked it dude! 😃

I know that feeling of Llavador: getting hit time and again with counters. AARRRGGGHHH!!!

@OlympicFoil

3 жыл бұрын

lol true, but also it is a great feeling when you hit someone with like 4 counterattacks in a row am I right? 😂

Love the tactics!

@OlympicFoil

3 жыл бұрын

Nice! 😃

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Could you do a video of successful strategies or hits against passive marches? People thwarting garozzo and Choi etc? It'd be a really helpful study, personally.

@OlympicFoil

3 жыл бұрын

I'll have a look around at some bouts and see if there's a nice matchup to show this 🙂 thanks for the suggestion!

@lastbot7383

3 жыл бұрын

Foconi do pretty good against Garozzo

@lastbot7383

3 жыл бұрын

Or you can look at how kozlve did in Cairo worlds junior finals 2021

@OlympicFoil

3 жыл бұрын

@@lastbot7383 I saw cyrusofchaos do a nice march video on foconi and garozzo a while back 😃

@lastbot7383

3 жыл бұрын

@@OlympicFoil haha same

the 10-5 touch for choi where Llavdor wanted video, was certainly correctly given to choi. Attack from llavdor falls short, Choi begins his own attack which is instantly finished. Attack no, attack reprise la gauche touche twa.

@opaquetundra5835

2 жыл бұрын

I know no one asked, or challenged this (except Llavdor haha) i was just saying to have it clarified

6:48 Feels like Llavador was able to pull that out because Choi didn’t want to finish and did a 60% simple attack instead

@OlympicFoil

3 жыл бұрын

Yes agreed Choi let him get out. I wouldn't say Choi didn't want to finish at all, more that he's happy to take the low chance of hitting on the short finish, since it has a basically 0% chance of him getting hit himself and leads to his defense (which has been more than 50% in his favour during the bout.) It's the same short finish as the first one Choi did in the video. Since Llavador went in on the first touch, the safe, low percentage finish from Choi landed then. What's nice about it is that Choi gains a lot of piste space coming forward if they take the option he gives them to pull him short. Great system from Choi

@lastbot7383

3 жыл бұрын

@@OlympicFoil btw just curious, are you still fencing foil? 😁

@OlympicFoil

3 жыл бұрын

@@lastbot7383 Yeah man still fencing foil! Did some training sessions the past few weeks after a long covid break 😃 You also a foil fencer I guess?

@lastbot7383

3 жыл бұрын

@@OlympicFoil yeah.. just had my last competition before college yesterday

@OlympicFoil

3 жыл бұрын

@@lastbot7383 Damn that's big stuff, good luck with college!

You think Carlos would win this match if he was more patient and make direct attack every time Choi was on the back line ??

@OlympicFoil

Ай бұрын

Hmmm hard to say, for me the problem was him attacking choi in the first place was not effective. Maybe let choi attack you would work?

4:25 lmaoooo

@OlympicFoil

3 жыл бұрын

😄 hahaha kommentary