Swarbrick is making excuses for theft.

Can 1News actually get on an Iwi representative and a Crown representative to debate this out? Thanks. I'm losing brain cells over here.

@socialite1283

6 ай бұрын

No - 1News can't do that. To do that would imply a willingness to actually listen to both parties, and a willingness to see what the actual treaty of Waitangi says and not merely go along with what the activists claim it says.

@Journey524

6 ай бұрын

Totally agree

@paton57

6 ай бұрын

​@socialite1283 and a leftist woke activist portraying to be a journalist doing the interview

@bkitch5755

5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂

Poor Tv1 interviewer. STOP interrupting

@rogermartin8435

6 ай бұрын

Anna was good reporting on USA matters. Unfortunately she is back under the influence of the TV1 bias Shame.

@roberthooker4970

6 ай бұрын

A interview is not an opportunity to make short speech. Often MPs do answer question so need to be brought back on trsck.

@roilhead

5 ай бұрын

Switch it off, it is one sided PR spin at best.

Why does Chloe get so much Airtime? It's almost as she is on every single interview in this channel.

@LtSharter

6 ай бұрын

Usually it's the politicians willingness to appear and be transparent that gives them more airtime

@Kenny-er5um

6 ай бұрын

they love Chloe because she's such a good mouthpiece.

@TgJohnson

6 ай бұрын

@@Kenny-er5um you mean she has a large mouth

@andreatodd3095

6 ай бұрын

Because she creates drama

@kitty2527

6 ай бұрын

@@andreatodd3095 Yes, Drama queen.

Sounds like a threat not a warning. It's time for a discussion with NZ it's not 1840 any more.

We will never get a "conversation." We will only ever get a battle for narrative control. Chloe is a champion of this discourse; it's her job to make sure the conversation never happens.

@bronsonperich9430

6 ай бұрын

What conversation do you want to have?

@questor55

6 ай бұрын

@@bronsonperich9430 No-one even knows what it might look like because we're never likely to arrive at that point, especially while it remains in the political realm. Politicians and activists will always be advocating for and pushing their position, not attempting to finding the truth, or understand the other party. Politics is not a conversation, its a fight.

@davethewave7248

5 ай бұрын

Yep, for some it is all about propaganda. I wonder if this is the flaw of mass politics and a radical democracy, for they know that is the way to get the numbers. Democracy can only be as good as the education that informs it.

@roilhead

5 ай бұрын

Chloe cannot have a conversation, it's her way or the highway.

Omg its Christmas we can finally comment on our media stories ...

@tamaracardon2562

6 ай бұрын

😂 about dam time...

@roilhead

5 ай бұрын

Just TVNZ taking a quick look to see if everyone has forgotten about the shambles that Jacinda created and that they promoted her. WE WILL NEVER FORGET!

Oh course Chloe blames everyone else for her criminal mate

@questor55

6 ай бұрын

From Wikipedia... DARVO (an acronym for "deny, attack, and reverse victim and offender") is a reaction that perpetrators of wrongdoing, such as sexual offenders, may display in response to being held accountable for their behavior. Some researchers indicate that it is a common manipulation strategy of psychological abusers

@Me-ui1zy

6 ай бұрын

Did she do that?

@elahhale9057

5 ай бұрын

​@@Me-ui1zy No she didn't. She spoke common sense .

@roilhead

5 ай бұрын

​@@elahhale9057Chloe hasn't got an ounce of common sense!

@elahhale9057

5 ай бұрын

@@roilhead Luckily for humanity we have come to realise that our perspective informs our reality. So good on you for saying your viewpoint.

A thief needs to be charged, tried and punished according to the law.

@user-mc6js8or3r

6 ай бұрын

Agree , , ,stolen lands and natural resources

@likimybalsax

5 ай бұрын

She will be discharged without conviction.

@rogermartin8435

5 ай бұрын

@@likimybalsax yep that is what i expect too. What a justice system we run in NZ. Groan. No punishments for special victims. She is clearly a repeat thief and needs to get some jail time. Even a short sentence would teach her that there are serious consequences.

@Kult365

5 ай бұрын

The prosecution calls Simple Seymour to the stand to be punished according to lore😂

@rogermartin8435

5 ай бұрын

@@Kult365 an irrelevant comment. Keep in the greens are thieves lane. Hopefully GG will get a custodial sentence. After Shaw goes there is littlw left in the Green tank. Chloe will step up for the limelight.

I'm right behind innocent until proven guilty...but when there is video footage and the person admits it by "giving reasons for it" I think we can rightly assume guilt and comment as such.

@naisyjohns

6 ай бұрын

Furthermore, Chloes answer is leaning on the mental health excuse. Stealing is stealing lol

@Astra.Kiro.EGYPT27

6 ай бұрын

OR DID THEY SET HER UP, ALTER AND EDIT THE VIDEO EVIDENCE WITH SOMEBODY ELSES VOICE, LIKE THEY DID WITH MY SETUP COURT CASE?! TBH I AM REALLY SICK OF THE DYSFUNCTIONAL, SELF-VAINITY OF SAME OLD ACTORS IN DIFFERENT HAIR WEAVES, MAKEUPS, DISGUISES, THE CORRUPT MANNER IN WHICH THIS WHOLE LAND IS BEING RUN. AND FROM WHAT I CAN SEE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S THE LAST DAYS 😇

@kbud3659

6 ай бұрын

Yeah right​@@Astra.Kiro.EGYPT27

@roilhead

5 ай бұрын

​@@naisyjohnsIs there footage of Chloe as well? I would love to see that.

@naisyjohns

5 ай бұрын

@@roilhead Never said anything about that lol!!!!!!!!!

Lol, nice cutting Shane Jones words up to distort the context -Bit of an Own goal 1News when Brooke said she hadn't seen it either lol..

What a difference in the two women,calm and collected Brooke and the maniacal no clue swarbrick

@rogermartin8435

6 ай бұрын

6+ years in opposition not being effective will test Chloe's temper and anger. I have my popcorn out waiting for the mad behaviour and maybe action from the speaker.

@Veni_Mann23

6 ай бұрын

Whether Brooke says that none of her fellow cabinet has seen the legalization of treaty is unheard-of and Chloé now giving the excuses from nats, act nz first the benefit of the doubt

@Kiwi-Ahh-Nah

6 ай бұрын

Brook is morally bankrupt. Her fear mongering for months before the election were gutter politics.

@tekivakatini26

6 ай бұрын

Did you assume that Chloe is a woman?😂😅

@LWJCarroll

6 ай бұрын

No not all, Chloe showed her experience and back ground knowledge very well.

Majority rule Chloe, you’ve had your chance and wasted it. Back to the students union for you. The end to soicialism is here. We should shove international obligations somewhere where the sun doesn’t shine. Well done Brooke, a great demonstration of how to hold a professional conversation.

@tawckgbak4070

6 ай бұрын

Majority support Chloe. I think you need to understand that Te Tiriti O Waitangi is with the crown and Maori not China, USA or any other country. We wouldn’t go to china and expect them to convert thousands of years of culture and history to become westernised and the same goes here for Maori, the Treaty is not getting touched and just so you know that treaty is what allows you and anyone foreign to even exist here so how about having some respect for Maori because remember this we were never conquered we allowed the settlers to co live in this country not run this country and trample all over our traditions.

@AnthonyFlack

6 ай бұрын

It's not a good sign when the supporters of your current government sound like they are also big fans of Putin.

@slowloris

6 ай бұрын

The end to socialism is here? Are you kidding me? The elites in the world are freaking out because it looks more like the end of capitalism is approaching at a faster and faster rate and they can't think of anyway to unwind it. Unfortunately, too many people have been brainwashed to vote for things that serve the interests of the world's billionaires by the same kinds of organisations that control the Act Party and NZ First. They don't care about accurately representing the views of the people. They care about researching the right issues and narratives to promote, to get them in to power so they can use that power to divide and conquer and walk away with more wealth for themselves. But the whole system is now starting collapse under the weight of its own contradictions.

@andreatodd3095

6 ай бұрын

Love your comment glen, 🙂

Pretty one-sided interviewing. ACT gets grilled about the treaty while Chloe just sidesteps her question about Green members breaking the law 😂

@jonnomarko7072

6 ай бұрын

.. if you are referring to the Green MP that has resigned ...... that matter is before the courts & it is a dangerous practice to question the validity of NZ law when the case is yet to be heard or are you a spoiler??????????????

@hunha991

6 ай бұрын

@@jonnomarko7072 I'm sure it's fine to talk about the videos of her swiping some luxury goods (which is ironic as you think the Greens would be against those big fashion brands 🤷‍♂️)

@tommcg7564

6 ай бұрын

Umm not it wasn’t, she dealt with the main issue then probed Chloe about it. It’s just that Chloe replied impeccably (and didn’t fold or sweat like current ministers).

@markelliott6112

6 ай бұрын

as always with MSM. Zero acknowlegement of the actions of shoplifting on the business involved - its all about them. Shit poor from Chloe - yet again.

@tommcg7564

6 ай бұрын

@@markelliott6112 you didn’t watch the interview had you seen it the interviewer probed about it but Chloe replied with aplomb, unlike the lot in govt today

NZ'ers overwhelmingly voted in favour of change. ... to the 10,000 activists: we live in a democracy ... the gravy train is over ... let it be ...

@user-mc6js8or3r

6 ай бұрын

Honour the treaty

@rogerparker4468

6 ай бұрын

Wish the gravy train was over for you. You are only here because of The Treaty. The treaty came into being because Maori resisted the might of a genocidal colonial empire. Incredible to see that centuries later, Maori again have to resist their erasure. For shame, NZ

@jame2433

6 ай бұрын

What gravy? Nz Europeans still have it better on almost every stat

@patriciatehaate236

6 ай бұрын

😅😅😅😅 you won't get any answers because you have always ignored the TOW

@patriciatehaate236

6 ай бұрын

​@@rogerparker4468well said

Swarbrick is refusing to answer questions has to whether she was at Scotties on the day Golriz was stealing. The media continue to fail to challenge Swarbrick on this.

@AnthonyFlack

6 ай бұрын

Because that's the most important issue facing our country, isn't it. Forget about infrastructure. Forget about the Treaty. Forget about the budget. Forget about whatever quid pro quo this coalition have worked out with their wealthy donors. All we want is to get some scandal to stick to Chloe Swarbrick.

@southpacific3160

6 ай бұрын

@@AnthonyFlack Yep that about sums it up. She's so incredibly self-righteous, except for when the focus is on her, and I do like to see hypocrisy called out whenever possible

Is any news outlet going to ask chloe about her being the lookout for gorliz

@AnthonyFlack

6 ай бұрын

You want it to be true so badly don't you.

Why was the ministry writing it? It must have been done as instruction by a minister. They are likely to have had an instruction from cabinet to start writing a bill.

Brooke has a calm and clear way of communication. Chloe uses dramatic hyperbole and fear mongering.

@CUZZABRO

6 ай бұрын

Easy for Brooke to be calm when she's full of it as opposed to Chlöe whose points are evidence based and she actually cares.

@Francois39

6 ай бұрын

@@CUZZABRO Exactly, it's a lot easier to be calm about stomping down on Māori when you've only lived in an all-white affluent suburb.

@jame2433

6 ай бұрын

She does but if you listen closely it's because she's saying nothing really

@trishhigginson9888

6 ай бұрын

Brooke is quite robotic, she scares me

@DrBojangles007

6 ай бұрын

Brooke seemed to just rattle off a bunch of prepared soundbites. She seemed to be nervous to me. Chloe had the more relaxed, balanced answers imo

Hi Chloe - did you see your mate shoplifting?

@kiz11a

6 ай бұрын

She was on the lookout for

@rogermartin8435

6 ай бұрын

Greenthieves as someone amusingly observed.

so we want a nation that largely doesnt follow maori tradition that doesnt speak maori have control of what a document in te reo means ?. this is a bad idea history tells that all documents interpreted by people outside the language and culture mis interpret it. The bible is one of the most famous documents that does it

@barneyboy2008

6 ай бұрын

Agreed. Kawanatanga does not mean sovereignty. The English version is mistranslated. It should be chucked in the bin because virtually no Maori signed it

@barbsmart7373

6 ай бұрын

Those are great points. It is a shock hearing the backward speech coming from David Seymour. This lady isn't giving any thought to the serious concerns.

@jamescooper-hope6930

6 ай бұрын

Lmao. You're comparing a book of man made fiction to our countries Treaty?

@MatuaKiwi

6 ай бұрын

@@jamescooper-hope6930 no im making a omparison between the mistranslation of our treaty and a document that was mistranslated by people who didnt speak hebrew and and defined passages as they saw fit. You need to work on you ability to contextualize whats being said correctly

Nobody is going to change the Treaty, just starting to tell the truth about the Treaty.

@barbsmart7373

6 ай бұрын

Well, Maori and Pakeha won't let this nonsense from ACT get very far.

@turi03175

6 ай бұрын

@hughheeney3554 Have been trying 4 years but u wouldn't know wouldu🎉

Why should Swarbrick be commenting on this is nothing to do with her

What is Chloe doing there when she should be facing charges as the accomplice in Gloriz theft charges?

The average person says they are stressed and having me anxiety and people say oh harden up or get over it,they get little to no help through the system. When a person in the public eye says the same everyone rushes to their aid and you're not allowed to say anything or everyone calls you insensitive..............more double standards for those "special few"😊

I totally get where act are coming from by thinking involving the general public of nz in a open debate is the best way forward, the only issue is this.. the vast majority of the general public simply do not understand the treaty, it’s context and all the complexities that surround it. So rather than informative educational debate, all we will end up seeing is racial bias heavily in favour one way. We as a country have done a terrible job in educating people on this topic and are quite ignorant to our colonial history.

@AnthonyFlack

6 ай бұрын

The right wing are always keen to use public ignorance as leverage to achieve their aims. You have to wonder what people like David Seymour actually envision for this country's future. I don't think it's the utopia of equal opportunities he likes to talk about, somehow.

@slowloris

6 ай бұрын

You get their sugar coated reasoning for saying they want an open discussion. But I'm sure they completely understand that what will actually happen is more like you say, and they have more insidious reasons for pushing this so much when it isnt an issue for 95% of the population (according to the latest IPSOS NZ issues poll). I would go as far to say they are counting on the discussion regressing into racial vitriol. I dont think their plan will get traction though.

@moronicdooshbaggery756

6 ай бұрын

Agree

@barbsmart7373

6 ай бұрын

​@@slowloris Yes. They know what their plan is. Look at what That sweet talking young Ven Veldo achieved in NZ. She has a thing regarding not valuing human life. Basically, through the select process, she managed to get her Euthanasia bill passed. Then came the referendum. Then came a change in law. This IS precisely the process they want to repeat. There is an article in 'The NZ Doctor' which quotes her when she spoke of how alarmed she was during covid by the extent to which prioritized saving lives. These were thousands of Maori and Pacific people who were saved. Not privileged young people who had been to the private St Cuthberts!! Her previous work was with lobbyists. I encourage everyone to research this nicely spoken young supremacist. She is teamed up with Seymour for a reason. They are hoping for the referendum for the ignorant masses. People don't understand the treaty and all the complexities. They haven't even read the treaty.

@davethewave7248

5 ай бұрын

Yes, we never taught history... perhaps in order not to rub salt in the wound of Maori?? Here's the thing. If the uncomfortable conversation is not had now, it may lead to something one hundred times more uncomfortable in a decade or two... when the gathering forces of reaction break out in a real storm. Then again, as we think we are. Maybe the old politics [and balance] is gone, people think differently, and we enter into a period of banana republicanism.^^

Green party minister of justice caught shoplifting lmfao

@robertmclaren2669

6 ай бұрын

Oh the irony

@rogermartin8435

6 ай бұрын

Someone wrote " from the river to the sea, my shopping will be free"

@rogermartin8435

6 ай бұрын

@heathermason8743 true. But many people want to keep it fresh. Held right and centre in our minds as NZ Herald TV1 Newshub try to hide it away or play the mental health victim narrative. We want to see justice applied to an acknowledged thief not swept under the carpet. The old Jacinda gang is desperate to spin the story.

@pgreen8531

6 ай бұрын

Unbelievable that chloe is prepared to go on this show since being involved in a shoplifting escapade with her colleague. How embarrassing for all new zealanders havervher on this nonsense

@penne_pasta

6 ай бұрын

And the ex-justice minister Kiri Allan drink driving, resisting arrest, fleeing from police and getting hunted down by the police dogs 😂

Actually like Brooke. , very well spoken even after her party is criticised ❤❤

She is a thief. What's confusing. And lots of people have stress. It does not mean we steal. This woman is a disgrace. Three examples of stealing? It cannot be excused. She should go to jail.

@jame2433

6 ай бұрын

That’s not how that works. If it’s her first offence it’s likely she won’t do prison time. Either way there’s a range of sentencing that could happen, and the courts will decide. Same rule should apply to her that would apply to any other. I’m not sure why people think she’s getting a free pass

Was Chloe in the shop while Golriz pinched the clothes?

I LOVE the native bird, fauna and flora backdrop in the background. Brilliant.

@alastairdow4400

6 ай бұрын

Floxs family?

Most people dont know what the treaty is.

Why has Chloe all of a sudden decided to wear makeup these days? I thought she was a all natural greens girl. Must be because she doesn't want to look un pretty sitting next to Brooke.

Why does Brooke van Velden only make one hand gesture

Can you discuss Bill Gates call for the wealthy to pay more tax.

Chloe explains that "this matter is before the police", so she can't comment. Chloe dear, the Police are not the judiciary yet. '

@tarbucky6536

6 ай бұрын

What a lot of drivel this women burbles.

@LWJCarroll

6 ай бұрын

The convention is MP’s dont comment on matters in the hands of the Police as they are part of our Judicial system. Fyi.

@Pastaaa204

6 ай бұрын

Actually, the sheer fact she's been charged indicates that her shoplifting case is already before the courts. Once it is before the courts, affiliates of any affected party cannot comment on it. Why do you think act is so hush about David Seymour court case regarding minors when they now are essentially the minister of children? Or is that different?

Well, Brookes calmness is that of a leader. Chloes is always like a spoilt teenager who wants things her way. No wonder NZ voted for this government.

Please let's also talk about NZ people who are not Maori who are also suffering. The Maori are not the only ones living in NZ, there are those with other skin colour working hard, paying their taxes and also in need of support to continue living quality life.

@user-nd9jx6mz7x

6 ай бұрын

Hold your horses tangata whenua,come first,all immigrants post 1250 A.D. come second

@aperaruapeeta4309

6 ай бұрын

Learn what Te Tiriti.

@adriandocherty778

5 ай бұрын

Pasifika?? I thought Maori /pasika were the only impoverished criminals in Nz?? Everyone wants to be equal until the stats start rolling out again!!🤣😂

02: 57 so who was it addressed too and/or sent too?

Make another doco Chloe, a doco that no one will watch once again, drama based would fit nicely.

That Swarbrick is a waste of our tax money

@LWJCarroll

6 ай бұрын

No, she is worth very cent thanks…

Chloes is great at twisting the narrative and making assumptions

Many thanks for the discussion

All people have the rights of a British Subject.

Golriz situation is not sad but bad

Sound byte??? Abundant

There is too much government in our lives.

@user-cm9ir1db5h

6 ай бұрын

not with this new government, due to main stream media. but there is too much maori in our lives!its got to the stage it is chunderish!

@kbud3659

6 ай бұрын

Yeah under labour there was

Brooke fyi we are actually a united country with the Treaty of Waitangi as is where is. No change thanks. The Treaty Settlement negotiations will continue thanks all the same.

Wow... didn't Chloe's tone change when her thief mate was brought up?.... never thought I'd see the day her big gob would slow down..... amazing 👏

@hospitalcleaner

6 ай бұрын

Wow it's almost like some people feel concern for their friends

@mikecranstoun2222

5 ай бұрын

Notice how Chloe and no other Green MP has at any stage has mentioned any sympathy or support for the real victim (shop owner) ???????@@hospitalcleaner

@hospitalcleaner

5 ай бұрын

@@mikecranstoun2222 why should they express sympathy on behalf of someone else? Scotty's has already come to terms with the offending anyway as mentioned in the statement made by Golriz. Nice try though mate

@mikecranstoun2222

5 ай бұрын

@@hospitalcleaner you sound a little triggered lol, "why" how about because the idiot that stole was a member of the Green party and and their representative, all too easy to play the victim and/or mental health card a.... we all know it would be a totally different environment if it had been a male member of National NZF or ACT.... Greens are a joke!

Just on the face of it [bracketing out the politics for a second] Brook seems well-spoken and reasonable. Chloe on the other hand seems wound up even though she is attempting to restrain herself given how cool and collected here 'debating' partner is... she also comes across as dogmatic, with such language as clearly this and that... as if there were no room whatsoever for any discussion.

Can Chloe get to the point I only have so much time, please put an end to her constant fullerbusting ???

the treaty is between the maori and the king of england not new zealanders

Brooke nailed it. What leak? Making a mountain out of a nothing burger... which is what I have come to expect from the media

United my arse

Which part of there is no paper to debate yet does she not understand

Who do you think you are kidding Mr Seymour? Wake up or we'll tell your mum.

The question is how, and who, should interpret the Treaty. At the moment it is interpreted by the judiciary and elites. ACT think it requires a public conversation. You either value the voice of the people or you prefer to listen to the elite class. Or you are a progressive, in which case you make your choice dependent on who agrees with you on each specific issue.

@jame2433

6 ай бұрын

Shouldn’t it be a measured exercise with experts providing their advice on both sides of the treaty? The public are not in a position to decide on interpreting the treaty, it’s an agreement between Māori and crown.

@AnthonyFlack

6 ай бұрын

A treaty that can be unilaterally cancelled by majority vote is a worthless treaty. It would be like Australia deciding to have a vote on aboriginal rights once the country was more than 90% white.

@chrish5184

6 ай бұрын

Lots of questions to this. First, who defines expert? There is no way to demonstrate expertise with empirical testing, an expert is simply any clever person who has thought about it a lot. But these are fundamental questions, and it is not clear that any one view is more valuable than another's. These are fundamental constitutional issues that in liberal countries are decided by the people. Second, what happens when experts 'on both sides' disagree? Which by definition they must, as they are on different sides. What other way is there to resolve a dispute between experts if not by going to the people? Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela and others believed all racial discrimination was wrong and were against affirmative action and quotas. Ibrahim X Kendi and Al Sharpton disagree. How do we resolve this if not by the will of the people?@@jame2433

@chrish5184

5 ай бұрын

Experts are free to give their opinion but constitutional questions must have democratic mandate. Otherwise you don;t live in a liberal society but an authoritarian state (whether that be a tyranny, oligarchy or plutocracy).@@jame2433

Why does the clip has Chloe’s name first in the title when Brooke is in government? The questions from the reporter are the reason why TVNZ is bleeding money, people are just turning off with the same crap they’ve been doing over the past 6 years.

Interesting that the argument here is "there is no bill" and "I've never seen that document", yet ACT has a whole website dedicated to their (one minority political party) interpretation of the treaty in which their suggested definitions have uncanny similarities (actually word for word) to those in the leaked document.

Brooke got style Chloe got no style

Why the paranoia over a conversation??

A mistake shoplifting, hasnt she got a habit of this?

Treaty matter should be a roysl commission

@user-mc6js8or3r

6 ай бұрын

Treaty matter should be honored

Prioritise tagata whenua we as tangata tiriti have a second home, for tagata whenua this is their only home, they have been robbed and bullied for far too long and it is time we protect what is left of it. How can so many other countries come and be welcomed and celebrate their cultures here but the rights of the landlord’s are removed????

Imagine if we were afforded the opportunity to have an open conversation about He PuaPua. The previous government did not trust NZers to debate He PuaPua. One can’t really blame Labour they were pretty confused about it and mostly about everything else, mind you. Let’s hope Labour comes back stronger at the next election. It will take some serious changing of the deck chairs for that to happen.

Theres no conversation to be had. We dont want a conversation with modern immigrants. This is not between maori and india.

lol Blame the environment of Parliament when representatives trip up outside in the real world. C'mon, where's your moral backbone.

Sound-bites rarking people up, not being so quick to judge, listening to the whole story... Chloe's defence of Golriz ought be applied to ACT. More than a wee bit of hypocrisy. Gee, it'd be sweet if all our politicians, on both sides of the house were as level headed as Brooke.

Why now do you want to discuss TOW now its important after Pakeha were consulted 😊

in a nutshell this is "adapt for future" vs "die in the past" and sadly alot of nz is far too backward to understand that the implication on our role globally moving forward in this modern world

Chloe frowny features Warbrick

Our politicians are so dumb

Your right brooke but exactly what your talking about is what my moari and mori ori ancestors didnt get back then did they my scottish and British ancestors had it all there way and is probably why i am better of than some of my moari brothers and sitsers today and if you cant accept that as a "KIWI" then are you really one ?

Is Chloe defending her shoplifting buddy in court?

Its the act party principles that a driving and dividing . Depends who you a talking to.

I read it and to me it seems to say the Maori give sovereignty to the monarchy in exchange for equal rights and treatment as equal citizens. Whatever Maori want I'm generally fine with so long as we give those rights to all citizens rather than exclusively to one race (Maori). Honestly thought the best solution is for us to declare independence from the crown and for a new republic with a constitution laying out the rights of everyone. This would render everyone equal and invalidate the treaty.

@wikitoriasmith1713

6 ай бұрын

Phark!

@Pastaaa204

6 ай бұрын

So you'd be okay if the Maori party randomly signed your sovereignty over to a random overseas colonial force, say the Spanish in "exchange for equal rights and treatment as equal citizens" without your consult as an individual, let alone as a people? Maori always get told it was better we got the British and not the French or Spanish, so logically you'd know the Spanish wouldn't have pakeha rights at the forefront. The same can be said W Maori rights and this proposed Bill, most Maori are aware that this bill is not in our best interest let alone will it do anything to make a positive impact for us - the bills and acts going through right now say nothing about rewriting pakeha rights or the erasure of them altogether so it really is just some weird powerplay to make pakeha feel included or to place them on a pedestal, yet again. Question, some Maori on Maori land are not allowed to trim or cut back trees (regardless of their native status, could be a blue gum) that become a threat to human life or their home - if they do cut the trees to save their home and lives they get hit w potential alienation breaches. If they leave the land and don't cut the trees, doc and the public works can claim the land after 30 years, probably alot earlier in some cases. This doesn't happen to anyone else's land or assets in nz, and I'm wondering if these are the "rights" the majority population in nz would love to be subject to aswell. And the Maori scholarships too, check out hauraki plains college - with confirmation from old students that went to school W the older siblings of said recipients that those kids had not one drop of Maori in them - they were also greedy w the scholarships. Scholarships are usually bound by expiry dates and if you get scholarships in otago, Hamilton, Wellington and Auckland realistically unless you come from money already you won't be able to attend all universities simultaneously. Once they choose their preferred campus, the other scholarships don't get recycled - no one else will get an opportunity to access said scholarship for the rest of the year. This behaviour from Pakeha students really distorts the statistics as it depicts that Maori have claimed all the Maori scholarships, but there's no breakdown of non Maori access and successful application rates. Like it'd be nice if they said here's x (total $ given out for Maori scholarships) here's the breakdown percentages of the successful applicants. Even Maori healthcare is open fully to the public, so everything saying Maori get more rights than everyone else is baffling. We get far less rights, people just don't care to look into the reality of things bc it doesn't affect them personally and they don't ever think it will.

@LtSharter

6 ай бұрын

Sounds like you had a read of the treaty not te tiriti

@haydsbeks6550

6 ай бұрын

@@Pastaaa204 maori do get more rights! I've seen it first hand with medical school, a non maori missed out even thou she had higher marks! Not good for our future health system! The government spends 850 million a year on maori .Most recent 50 million towards maori health! Maybe that's the reason for the divide starting in our country!

I want one to know - why the act party really wants this? I want them to lay out, explicitly the evidence and support they have for this issue. I can’t go on “i believe’ by Seymour.

@chrish5184

6 ай бұрын

They think all Kiwis should be treated the same. They believe in equality under the law.

@kiwiopklompen

6 ай бұрын

@@chrish5184 it’s too simplistic. That is a fantasy anyway.. we’re not all the same and it ignores colonisation and the treaty.

@georgiamullane1686

5 ай бұрын

Plain and simple equality under the law...

Cheating lying G stole because her 6 figure job distorted her honesty

IT IS EXTRAORDINARY THAT THIS CONVERSATION IS even taking place. Change a treaty dated 1840 get a grip. ACT WHY DO WA N T TO CREATE DIVISION IN NEW ZEALAND. I HAVE BEEN AWAY FROM NEW ZEALAND BUT growing up and beyond NEW ZEALAND has always been racially harmonious. ACT AND PM LUXON GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER. DON'T CAUSE DIVISION WHEN IT IS NOT NECESSARY IF YOU DO YOU WILL BE THE LAST MEN STANDING

@Lazydaisy646

6 ай бұрын

Its a World wide agenda to divide

I guess its a good thing there’s this up roar about these treaty changes, even if national are saying it won’t happen. If there was no up roar they would of past it

@barbsmart7373

6 ай бұрын

I find it hard to trust an upstart who is greedy and has no balls. Being coalition leaders has gone to their heads a bit don't you think? No consultation... ignoring firm advise, letting tobacco take thousands of lives, allowing an extremist to get ahead of himself like this... I don't know how many times I heard the lines "strong and stable government"... what a joke...4 court cases, Maori AND their supporters getting ready for a challenge... The other thing I kept hearing was " we're getting NZ back on track". Omg, we have already gone backwards by decades.

@AnthonyFlack

6 ай бұрын

@@barbsmart7373 - cancelling rail and rail ferry projects. Pushing more freight onto roads. Literally getting NZ off track.

@barbsmart7373

6 ай бұрын

@@AnthonyFlack Lol That's a good one! Do you drive trucks or work for the railways? What about Luxon's other phrase: "a strong and stable government". Cripes! People calling them the 3 headed Taniwha or enemy. 4 lots of court action. Leaders who won't front up or be bold about where they stand. But taking sides and gaslighting Kiwis about the middle east. Very foolish. That's where some experience would've helped Luxon. And a bit of humility.

Can we get someone grown up from the left to sit down with Brooke ? Someone who behave as an adult .

@raywheeler3135

6 ай бұрын

Well it obviously won't be you with your juvenile comment

No there doesn't need to be a discussion there definitely needs to be education about Te Tiriti though. Maori are not just New Zealanders they did not sign away Sovereignty. Already the parties don't even know what each other are doing, Shane Jones just confirmed that. This nonsense is only appeasing to the racists of this country and causing more confusion. Please EDUCATE the people DONT separate

Chloe is getting crazier

Brook ever the lady,facing off with the superheavyweight 1News defender of the left.

@LtSharter

6 ай бұрын

Oi off the comments Winston haha jokes Kia ora

Brooke talks nice and is always immaculately presented etc but beware she has a heart of stone. Trust her at your peril unless your rich of course then she will do your bidding.

Why dos swarbrick not answer the question of her out shopping with a shop lifter and do not tell me she did not know.

The Ministry of Justice is not the government. If the law is not written correctly it can be legally challenged. I guess there cannot be consultation until the bill or potential bill is finally drafted.

did they ask chloe abut the five finger discount

Chloe can honestly just shut up - if you break down what she says (she likes to ramble) she is literally saying nothing.

@tommcg7564

6 ай бұрын

First off the bat she says the govt has not consulted with anyone on this so what are you on about?

@lawildman1

6 ай бұрын

Champion of woke stupidity

@jacobousgatez

6 ай бұрын

It’s actually pretty clear. Not sure what you’re confused about, chief.

@tommcg7564

6 ай бұрын

@@jacobousgatez anything that makes sense they just say “woke”

@Francois39

6 ай бұрын

"Everything I don't like is woke and incomprehensible rambling" -Every reactionary conservative ever

This is such a waste of time!! 🤯

“35 years of …. LIES !!!

This country is so divided, and getting worse. Someone needs to step up!

Why does Act drag all New Zealanders into this Treaty issue when it basically has nothing to do with them and saying this Treaty is dividing the Country is a load of rubbish. In what way is that happening or is it because Maori or Pakeha's with Maori Ancestors do have special rights in this Country after all they were the first people here and rightly this is their country.

Chloe makes brooke sound like an amateur lol

Talking about bullying....

Ha ha Chloe the accomplish showed up after laying low

I think it is interesting that we are allowing New Zealand to have a say in a very complex document which covers the relationship between a majority population and minority population. Also the fact that the minority population has several very complex factors to consider which range across nearly all facets of society, culture and science. On top of that, the document has been translated between Te Reo Maori and English making it an even bigger challenge to interpret correctly. When considering all of this, does it really make sense to put these decisions in the hands of lay New Zealanders who have little understanding of all of this and expect an outcome that is in any way good or fair for both parties involved?

@user-bw5nc

6 ай бұрын

While our citizens are being divided by race, the division will continue. It's as simple as that.

@Kult365

6 ай бұрын

This is the most underrated comment I have seen about this topic. I'm copying it and will attribute when I quote it , thank you

@4evaavfc

6 ай бұрын

There is certainly a lot of ignorance about the ToW, especially the version most chiefs signed.

@hughheeney3554

6 ай бұрын

The Treaty is quite clear, Maori have the same rights as all other members of the British Empire.

@Kult365

6 ай бұрын

@@hughheeney3554 Same rights and privileges as the Queen's Citizens, _as well as_ maintaining articles 1, 2, and 3. Very important not to leave those parts out. *Very* important. Crucial even.

There she goes suggesting Parliament Enviroment has an impact on a persons repetitive need to steal, maybe that person was just a THIEF

The interview are always so left as proven by the last survey

More bla bla from chloe and the green party