Time we had better trained News People - the ones we have are rubbish.

@wikitoriasmith1713

6 ай бұрын

Simple......Scroll on then.

@eileencoulter6263

6 ай бұрын

​@@wikitoriasmith1713the tax payer payes these puppet Media so yes we Have a say on their content

@josiahfresnel9217

6 ай бұрын

Okay, why don't you do the job then if your so confident.

@victoriasmith1695

6 ай бұрын

@@squirrel6777 I note a lot of Keha commenting their Dislikes! Always have, nothings new. Stands to reason!

@willsmcmurray7070

6 ай бұрын

Atlest we can comment now

Well done Shane for not rising to Jenny-racebaiter-may

Is the news media and the reporter being neutral？or to stir up more conflict?

@liamhawke6012

6 ай бұрын

Depends on the media source. However The media is always highly subjective in their views.

@mamanamanoo

6 ай бұрын

TV1 Breakfast is biased!!!

@pauljones3062

6 ай бұрын

Leftist media still following Jacinda’s agenda.

@aladinin

6 ай бұрын

Not neutral - MSM NZ is highly biased in this direction.

@ChrisBrown-or8ky

6 ай бұрын

To the extent of my knowledge, she's not a trained journalist. She represented nz as a netballer, became a sports broadcaster, then somehow ended up doing tv news. What this country lacks is actual skilled, trained and exceptional journalism in broadcasting. Fwiw, i actually like her on tv generally, just not as a journalist at all

So sad our news programs are so left and so biased

Most New Zealanders have had a guts full of this nonsense. This is one of the main reasons Labour got the boot.

@lairddougal3833

6 ай бұрын

Be honest, mate. YOU’VE had a guts full. You don’t speak for the rest of us. Oh, and Labour got the boot because it failed to achieve anything material where it counted, dealing with the massive failings of the health and education sectors. And it looks like this lot is going to do no better because it’s decided to busy itself pandering to people who’d rather fight culture wars, instead of getting on with the real job.

@lovetruth5518

6 ай бұрын

My sister doesn’t watch the news any more. She is sick of it! She is old school and does not understand the Maori words in the News these days. Where can she go to learn the Maori language from not knowing a thing?

@lovetruth5518

6 ай бұрын

@@user-no3sl6xz1i 😳That’s a very prejudice comment, that’s not true. Every SOUL matters, get that chip of your shoulder.🎯

@MrShoblang

6 ай бұрын

​@@lovetruth5518it's really not hard. If she wanted to learn she'd have figured something out. English isn't the be all and end all of languages

@lovetruth5518

6 ай бұрын

@@MrShoblang Its the International language English. I'm in another country. I would push her into learning as I would love it. I'm asking is there is any schooling. Please don't get sensitive about it. She just lost her husband, mother and been sick. So this was a help message to find out where to learn. 🎯💝💐

The gravy train is ending, lets be honest it's not the average Maori in the street (like myself) complaining, the National Hui only got 10k people thats not enough (assuming all voting age) to elect 1/10 of a MP. It is the ones with the cushy high paying non delivering, non productive jobs that are upset that their rort is coming to an end.

@SMD2308

6 ай бұрын

I have similar thoughts. I whakapapa mainly to two iwi, and neither iwi mentioned in their email newsletter about representation to this hui. Also, we have had about 20-25 years since most iwi settlements - I am still waiting to see the trickle down effect to ordinary iwi members. The millions given in settlements seem to have had little to no effect on the average Māori.

@tyronesmith15

6 ай бұрын

Incorrect our Hapu Ngati Whakaue has over 70 thousands of us and we delicated a selective representatives for our whānau to be there and like many other Hapu also did too

@sharyndunn4077

6 ай бұрын

@@tyronesmith15 that is great - I was referring to my two iwi. They may have sent representatives - I was saying there was no communication about that if they did.

@sarahonehi5420

6 ай бұрын

Majority of Maori were informed of the hui, this was advertised nation wide and on all NZ news channels. As an individual it is our responsibility to follow up with our iwi , hapu or Marae about hui. did you do this Sharyn. I am afliated to 5 Iwi and I made it my business to find out what each of my iwi were planning, hence why I know all 5 Iwi attended and myself. I would like to know what action you did to help yourself to know what was happening in your two iwi. Remeber you are 1 person, your iwi population may be hugh. I agree with tyrone.@@SMD2308

The treaty is not being changed or rewritten, Geoffrey Palmers add on principles are whats being questioned.

@TonyRule

6 ай бұрын

A lawyer making more work for lawyers.

@Camwin

6 ай бұрын

The principles are what the treaty represents. If they want to solidify the principles and create ones without Māori consultation then that's already breaking the current principles of the treaty and extremely tone deaf by not consulting Māori At ALL! There's a hint on what their intentions are!

@MatuaKiwi

6 ай бұрын

yeah thanks to chris putting his foot down because act wanted straight referendum

Glad we have top politicians now in the political arena who can speak out the truth

@user-no3sl6xz1i

6 ай бұрын

What truth

@danfray4685

6 ай бұрын

​@user-no3sl6xz1i it would be a waste of time telling you about truth if you need it explained..... like talking to a rock

We can not change what happened in 1840 but we are alive today and how we interact with one another now - in this lifetime is what truly matters. All my Maori and island friends struggle just as much as me to make a life for ourselves no matter what colour our skin is or our ancestry. We need to learn how to get along with one another while we are still living.

@Tehui1974

6 ай бұрын

Michael Jackson? Is that you?

@user-no3sl6xz1i

6 ай бұрын

May not be able to change what happened in the past But we can all learn from it, without ignorance or arrogance

@djhemirukahemisphere8893

6 ай бұрын

That's not the real issue here. Te Tiriti offered Maori an agreement to manage thier own affairs. Today the govt wants to rewrite thst agreement without consulting the Tangata whenua.

@k9wirihana172

6 ай бұрын

Not only are indigenous people forced to shoulder the burden of colonialism, but we are expected to celebrate it. This is what you fail to see as tangata tiriti.

@Xashe

6 ай бұрын

@djhemirukahemisphere8893 I'd also like to add that without Te Tiriti, the Crown are governing illegitimately. I've always felt that non-Māori need Te Tiriti more than Māori do. If you look at authorities in 1840 it was hapū who held political rights for Māori, which was recognized and reinforced in He Whakaputanga and Te Tiriti. Māori inherit their rights to this land through their hapū.

Always on point shane jones 👏

Not all Māori were represented at this meeting.

@arirahall6918

6 ай бұрын

Tika tena.

@shaunspazza3638

6 ай бұрын

And if that is true that is their own fault the meeting had been made public since December and most probably earlier. Meaning more than enough time to head down and listen to what maoridom thoughts were

@arirahall6918

6 ай бұрын

@@shaunspazza3638 Logically, if not all Maori were represented, then some of ‘maoridom’, did not want to listen - presumably.

@pgreen8531

6 ай бұрын

Absolutely hopeless endeavor

@user-no3sl6xz1i

6 ай бұрын

​@@pgreen8531only in your primitive mind

I'm glad Shane Jones is back in our parliament and standing up for democratic values.

@pgreen8531

6 ай бұрын

He wont be pushed around by these radicals

@wikitoriasmith1713

6 ай бұрын

Shane Jones, Kūpapa!

@iplanes1

6 ай бұрын

being radical is a democratic right. I would also ask you to define what you actually mean by radicals.

@getsorted0185

6 ай бұрын

Great talker of the truth what we need

@MrShoblang

6 ай бұрын

​@@pgreen8531he's radical in his racism but I guess that just puts him on your side.

Jenny didn’t seem very happy when Shane said that it’s the opinion of the public not the opinion of iwi which is more important.

@mamanamanoo

6 ай бұрын

Only in NZ where the voice of the majority are not being heard.

@Tehui1974

6 ай бұрын

@@mamanamanoo Oh, you poor darling.

@autumnedwards45

6 ай бұрын

Maori Rights as stipulated in Te Tiriti should not be dependant on the majority of NZ. It's an agreement between Maori and The Crown not the populace of NZ and The Crown​@@mamanamanoo

@rockyjones2563

6 ай бұрын

@@autumnedwards45who speaks for Maori then?

@user-no3sl6xz1i

6 ай бұрын

​@@rockyjones2563why what's it got to do with you

What a breath of fresh air from Matua Shane. At last some balance.

It is clear the mainstream media do not want a civilised debate on the substance of the bill. Half this interview was about who turned up to the hui.

The treaty was for equality not division

Shane is saying what the majority of the country voted for. Well done.

@wikitoriasmith1713

6 ай бұрын

Majority of the country voted for? Minor parties with 6 and 8%?

@dash-kt7uf

6 ай бұрын

@@wikitoriasmith1713let me explain maths to you 2 plus 2 equals 4 😂

@Badest187

6 ай бұрын

@@dash-kt7ufyour iQ IS 4 😂

@keithfletcher236

6 ай бұрын

There should be one rule of Government for ALL NZers not two with one based on ethnicity

@garyallwood8483

6 ай бұрын

@@keithfletcher236 What are the two rules that are in place in NZ at the moment? Specifically?

Jenny says The second principle states all "New Zealanders" but doesn't mention Maori. Is Jenny suggesting that Maori aren't New Zealanders?

@nickc9404

6 ай бұрын

hmmmmm

@kiz11a

6 ай бұрын

They probably consider themselves Aotearoans

@Noofsmissus

6 ай бұрын

That was my thought exactly! We are ALL NEW ZEALANDERS.

@user-no3sl6xz1i

6 ай бұрын

Maori don't see themselves as nzders they see themselves as Maori. Now te tiriti wasnt written up for nzders and the crown. It was written up for Maori and the crown

@fiddledeedee6970

6 ай бұрын

They like to think they are special.

The document said all newzealanders moari included !!

We have a Maori party in parliament .... it is time to have a Pakia / white party in parliament to see to the needs of all non Maori in new Zealand .... and we need a binding Referendum on the Treaty of Waitangi ... and put an end to the "NZ apartheid state" for all time . .

The reason why this issue has risen in the first place is, as Shane states, the public have asked for it due to our NZ election results … the people of NZ have asked for it… the majority of New Zealanders have requested this due to the road the Waitangi Tribunal have taken us down and the current division in NZ between Iwi and Pakeha.. this is not anything unreasonable but rather a discussion we need to raise with all New Zealanders

@nickwilson55

6 ай бұрын

How did the majority of NZ ask for this in the election? Genuine question, only two parties campaigned on this - which isn't the majority. And i feel the bigger issue people had was around covid lockdown, not maori rights. Lots of comments of this nature but not sure of the substance behind them

@tuibarrett5431

6 ай бұрын

Furthering Nick's Statement. The new principles are in complete contradiction to what Te Tiriti says. Primarily article two. You can't just change a founding document to what you feel like 😂 neither should we even adhere to the principles. Te tiriti was written clearly! No need to make principles for something that's written and can be adhered to

@LWJCarroll

6 ай бұрын

Not a majority just the minority of people who voted for Act. I think it is fair to say the Majority did not actually vote for this Act nonsense. Fyi. Imo. Laurie. 😊

@user-ox3eh7fx1j

6 ай бұрын

@@nickwilson55 I believe that Labour’s main interest in promoting and supporting Māori sovereign rights saw a backlash which was noticeable in their lost in their electoral constituency … many of the Māori election strongholds were lost. I believe there were many reasons for this shift but among my cohorts as a typical middle class New Zealander who was always a labour supporter, there is an enormous concern and shift of attitude towards the overwhelming sovereign rights of Māori over all New Zealanders ie water, health and Te Reo are three primary concerns. I believe we, as all New Zealanders, should have equal rights to all services and all qualifications for jobs to be merit based.

@nickwilson55

6 ай бұрын

@@user-ox3eh7fx1j thanks for your response, on reflection there have been a number of events during the labour term that were maori centric, and i suspect while others were suffering with economic (recession) and social (covid related) issues these could be seen with resentment. I think things like the Three Waters probably overstated their benefit and the delay in opening up lockdown because maori vaccination rates were low seemed ridiculous. However i think that if we ignore the history with Maori rights, ie. with suppression of language, broken promises and ignore the reality of implicit bias then we don't bring our cultures together, we carry on with a prison rate of over 50% Maori and we end up making the same mistakes of history. Anyway, all the best

I never watch 1News. Wow, they're pretty woke arent' they?

@paton57

6 ай бұрын

Ardern bribed them with millions to be the Woke proper gander machine

@katrinalodge6055

6 ай бұрын

Totally woke, time the government stopped funding their biased non news

@suehowie152

6 ай бұрын

Hello America.

@mamanamanoo

6 ай бұрын

They are, that's why I stopped watching it.

@LWJCarroll

6 ай бұрын

Actually they are excellent and professional as shown here. I watch or read other news outlets from here in NZ as well. fyi.

More woke TV1😊

@Thishandleistakentryagain

6 ай бұрын

I didn't realise Shane Jones was woke?!

@pgreen8531

6 ай бұрын

Absolutely right and disgusting at the same time .sometimes i am not proud to be a new Zealand citizen

@michaelsteens8406

6 ай бұрын

@@pgreen8531 😂

@user-no3sl6xz1i

6 ай бұрын

​@@pgreen8531then don't be a Nzder citizen it's as simple as that

The leaker of the document(s) needs to be identified and sacked. The government must be able to trust the public service. kiingi tuheitia is correct; "There are no principles, the treaty is written". However all through NZ legislation there are references to the principles, which do not exist. This means the legislation interpretation is open ended. Seymour is correct is wanting to define these principles. Well done Seymour.

@CapitalistKiwi

6 ай бұрын

If you read this and have a position that enables you to do so, kindly do an investigation to locate and bring to trial the leaker of the document. The intent of the leak seems to be to sow discontent (because of the timing of the leak). Not only the leaker, but those who know of the leaker and aided and abetted the leak should be brought to trial. I would suggest the head of the Justice Department should launch the investigation or whoever is in charge of security at the Beehive. But what do I know of how the Beehive security works.... zilch!

@user-no3sl6xz1i

6 ай бұрын

Omg you really don't know what your talking about

@MickeyDC-om3pv

6 ай бұрын

So kiingi tuheitia in not correct. Treaty of Waitangi Act 1975. Courts are determing the principles now, the Law association has a great article called "The principles of te Tiriti o Waitangi: where it all started"@@user-no3sl6xz1i

@CapitalistKiwi

6 ай бұрын

@@user-no3sl6xz1i Please expand your answer with some specifics, or references that reveal what you know that we do not know what we are talking about. Thanks!

@eugenerewi9076

6 ай бұрын

What a load of garbage

Jeez woman... How many times do you want to come back?😂

Well said Shane

I must have missed the bit where he "Slammed" anything.

Funny how the Main Stream media questions so hard ref why Shane Jones didn't go to the hui. Not one member of parliament spoke to the People in the freedom village or any other march that took place throughout New Zealand regarding having our freedoms taken and there was a shit load more people at those. Why should this Hui be any different.

@Kult365

6 ай бұрын

You're comparing Maaori and Treaty to tin foil hat wearing rabbit holers?? 😂

@MyTaniwha

6 ай бұрын

They didn't go because they were scared

@user-no3sl6xz1i

6 ай бұрын

​@MyTaniwha yup and it's as simple as that. Too scared to show and ashamed of their own behavior toward Maori.

@tooxtalivai0690

6 ай бұрын

Freedom you aren’t free when did you think you were? in order to leave here you need a little book with your photo in it it’s called a passport and that same book is used to pass through they eye of the needle when you travel from here to there now tell how your Freedom Movement is free again? That’s right there is no Freedom Movement just bitching over the covid and further more you are also governed just like the natives. Your freedom is a fairytale.

@user-mrwikohika

6 ай бұрын

There's only two occupants in this land & Treaty. The Crown. The Cheifton's. The Treaty agrees for both parties to coexist together, under their own governance of their Own People, for a peaceful coexistence. Take me to your leader, Cabbage 😂😂😂 The NZ government are subject's to the King of England to whom they serve. The government serves the King, not the people. You & I are only a human resource to work the government machines they cal the Crown. So,whom do you serve? The King or his subject's ? I know it ain't the Cheifton's or the people. I would not have said, " Take me to your leader, Cabbage." for nothing. Do you want to make the Treaty relative into this century? Then talk to the King of England, his subjects don't care about you & i.

The settlers at the time of the treaty had no idea about Maori values . And yet both welcomed each other openly , then the politics took over the original wording and all hell broke out . ❤ aotearoa new Zealand. We get along very well that u .

@user-mrwikohika

6 ай бұрын

There's only two occupants in this land & Treaty. The Crown. The Cheifton's. The Treaty agrees for both parties to coexist together, under their own governance of their Own People, for a peaceful coexistence. Take me to your leader, Cabbage 😂😂😂 The NZ government are subject's to the King of England to whom they serve. The government serves the King, not the people. You & I are only a human resource to work the government machines they cal the Crown. So,whom do you serve? The King or his subject's ? I know it ain't the Cheifton's or the people. I would not have said, " Take me to your leader, Cabbage." for nothing. Do you want to make the Treaty relative into this century? Then talk to the King of England, his subjects don't care about you & i.

Go Shane!

The bill is not of urgency.

@user-mrwikohika

6 ай бұрын

There's only two occupants in this land & Treaty. The Crown. The Cheifton's. The Treaty agrees for both parties to coexist together, under their own governance of their Own People, for a peaceful coexistence. Take me to your leader, Cabbage 😂😂😂 The NZ government are subject's to the King of England to whom they serve. The government serves the King, not the people. You & I are only a human resource to work the government machines they cal the Crown. So,whom do you serve? The King or his subject's ? I know it ain't the Cheifton's or the people. I would not have said, " Take me to your leader, Cabbage." for nothing. Do you want to make the Treaty relative into this century? Then talk to the King of England, his subjects don't care about you & i.

If you can't change nothing you must change something. Shame that he should have spent more time on his english🤣

The government sent the minister of Māori affairs

@pgreen8531

6 ай бұрын

NOT NECCESSARY EBD OF STORY

@user-mrwikohika

6 ай бұрын

There's only two occupants in this land & Treaty. The Crown. The Cheifton's. The Treaty agrees for both parties to coexist together, under their own governance of their Own People, for a peaceful coexistence. Take me to your leader, Cabbage 😂😂😂 The NZ government are subject's to the King of England to whom they serve. The government serves the King, not the people. You & I are only a human resource to work the Kings government machines they call the Crown. So,whom do you serve? The King or his subject's ? I know it ain't the Cheifton's or the people. I would not have said, " Take me to your leader, Cabbage." for nothing. Do you want to make the Treaty relative into this century? Then talk to the King of England, his subjects don't care about you & i.

Ten thousand out of 800,000 gosh 🙄thought there would be more 🤔🤔MSM making more out of things than there needs to be .

@davidswanson2593

6 ай бұрын

yep just 0.01% of that part of the population

@suehowie152

6 ай бұрын

So you're saying it was a poor turn out by Maori?

@flam3rboiyt237

6 ай бұрын

30,000 people went to foo fighters in Auckland, 10,000 is a tiny number

@mearip6116

6 ай бұрын

there was more than 10k there...media making up the numbers...🤣....Foo fighters did not have 30k people in the stadium half the stadium was taken up by equipments🤦‍♀️🤣

@wikitoriasmith1713

6 ай бұрын

Dumb! Foo fighters band and Te Iwi Māori kaupapa? Apples, oranges!

Let's have a republic and get rid of the treaty division.

What's more offensive: Media's obvious bias and steering of the narrative, or their assumption we're all too dumb to notice and disagree?

If the Maori King wants to make sure they can't change nothing it means they can change every thing

@user-mrwikohika

6 ай бұрын

There's only two occupants in this land & Treaty. The Crown. The Cheifton's. The Treaty agrees for both parties to coexist together, under their own governance of their Own People, for a peaceful coexistence. Take me to your leader, Cabbage 😂😂😂 The NZ government are subject's to the King of England to whom they serve. The government serves the King, not the people. You & I are only a human resource to work the government machines they cal the Crown. So,whom do you serve? The King or his subject's ? I know it ain't the Cheifton's or the people. I would not have said, " Take me to your leader, Cabbage." for nothing. Do you want to make the Treaty relative into this century? Then talk to the King of England, his subjects don't care about you & i.

Shane Jones is impressing me more and more with his clear and concise answers to this matter. The media needs to stop stirring the pot with their Treaty agenda. Its causing unnecessary stress and anxiety for people. One country one people.

The pm should have been there? A larger percentage of the country were banned from civil society by the last government where was the pm then? Talking to the people?

As a maori , maori should concentrate on our own poverty, crime and high rates of imprisonment im sick and tired of the bloody treaty this treaty that.

@sheaoj3185

6 ай бұрын

The fact that you "as māori" speak of the "treaty" tells me you just don't get it. Educate yourself on "Te Tiriti" first. The poverty, crime you are referring to has whakapapa to the crown not holding true to that agreement.

@Badest187

6 ай бұрын

Well pack your stuff and move on one less person we have to worry about

@zaksol7022

6 ай бұрын

@@Badest187 far cough numpty

It’s great to hear a politician speak common sense

@k9wirihana172

6 ай бұрын

Where?

There is no bill!

@user-mrwikohika

6 ай бұрын

There's only two occupants in this land & Treaty. The Crown. The Cheifton's. The Treaty agrees for both parties to coexist together, under their own governance of their Own People, for a peaceful coexistence. Take me to your leader, Cabbage 😂😂😂 The NZ government are subject's to the King of England to whom they serve. The government serves the King, not the people. You & I are only a human resource to work the government machines they cal the Crown. So,whom do you serve? The King or his subject's ? I know it ain't the Cheifton's or the people. I would not have said, " Take me to your leader, Cabbage." for nothing. Do you want to make the Treaty relative into this century? Then talk to the King of England, his subjects don't care about you & i.

Good on Shane and Winnie

Shane Jones, thank you so much you’re such a great understanding of the issues

@wikitoriasmith1713

6 ай бұрын

Kūpapa!

You are a top bloke Shane Jones straight up❤❤❤

@user-no3sl6xz1i

6 ай бұрын

For a laugh

Well said Shane - putting Jenny in her place.

@devoncsmith2696

6 ай бұрын

Like where?

@larrytasker7043

6 ай бұрын

He didn't. It was actually a very good interview and she was right on asking him why he wasn't attending the Hui and then he spouted the words from the bible which was a real cop out

@user-no3sl6xz1i

6 ай бұрын

How did he do that

@wikitoriasmith1713

6 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@johnlowe8418

6 ай бұрын

I don't think he "put her in her place" as you say, but what he did, was not allow himself to be lured into a debate on why the PM wasn't there, the leaked doco which was created by a coalition partner, Jones was way too smart to fall into that one.

Good one Shane you will get my vote

Yes close down TV one news room

Why can't we all be New Zealanders first and last. All are born equal under the eyes of God and all do have equal opportunities. Special treatment is so divisive!!!

@robjonewcombe-sim1559

6 ай бұрын

because there is no god, and some people in New Zealand are more equal than others according to Shane.

@user-no3sl6xz1i

6 ай бұрын

You must have a privileged life

@21kiwi24

6 ай бұрын

Because he doesn't see himself though a racial lens? @@user-no3sl6xz1i entitled to Lands and waters on the basis of his race and genetics? Not if they were born here or immigrated lrr a better life, but the actions of his great great grandparents. You need to stop seeing life through a racial lense by friend. It never ends all

I think part of the problem is that cindy effectivley made maoris think they where part of the government . They may be the original colonisers but should be treated identically to any other citizen that pays taxes and inhabits Newzealand. I am always amazed that in parliment you can have a party soley based on heritage and race Every other party is inclusive look at the demographic of all partys all inclusive Look at the maori party its all exclusive. And they say the governments racist

@user-mrwikohika

6 ай бұрын

There's only two occupants in this land & Treaty. The Crown. The Cheifton's. The Treaty agrees for both parties to coexist together, under their own governance of their Own People, for a peaceful coexistence. Take me to your leader, Cabbage 😂😂😂 The NZ government are subject's to the King of England to whom they serve. The government serves the King, not the people. You & I are only a human resource to work the government machines they cal the Crown. So,whom do you serve? The King or his subject's ? I know it ain't the Cheifton's or the people. I would not have said, " Take me to your leader, Cabbage." for nothing. Do you want to make the Treaty relative into this century? Then talk to the King of England, his subjects don't care about you & i.

@user-no3sl6xz1i

6 ай бұрын

What Jacinda did was acknowledged Maori as sovereigns of Aotearoa nz. She wanted to include Maori. Let them have a say because this is a Maori country not an english one. The crown and Maori signed the treaty in partnership so yeah Maori should be included in any decisions that the gvt make

@Badest187

6 ай бұрын

@@user-no3sl6xz1i jacinda has left the building only in your little mind she still exists come on 2024 now lol

@user-no3sl6xz1i

6 ай бұрын

@renzov7466 says the one with a primitive mind.

@11Shot111

6 ай бұрын

Have you looked at any maori party policies? Name the racist ones lol

Well said Shane....sounds like some folk have an inferiority complex. Assessment is part of life. I'm sure many of us do it regularly in our own daily lives as we navigate an ever changing world.

@MatuaKiwi

6 ай бұрын

was your peoples world and way of life attacked by your government

This was a protest. Plain and simple. Their only concerns are that our money keeps flowing for free. enough

@user-no3sl6xz1i

6 ай бұрын

What money

Nz does not have a written constitution. Another one of the problems

@suehowie152

6 ай бұрын

I look at America with Trump and realise how useless a Constitution is.

@LWJCarroll

6 ай бұрын

True but its in parts spread over various laws etc, it is explained on the Governor Generals web site as I recall. Fyi. 😊

@LWJCarroll

6 ай бұрын

@@Mel-qr5ob fyi the USA is currently debating and testing in court the 14th Amendment to its own Constitution. So they can and do get amended.

@AORD72

6 ай бұрын

Become a republic and end the treaty nonsense.

@suehowie152

6 ай бұрын

@@AORD72 Hell no!

In all things there must be an opposition. If it goes to far to one side or the other it's unbalanced. Hopefully all this is just a step journey to real patriotism for all

@user-mrwikohika

6 ай бұрын

There's only two occupants in this land & Treaty. The Crown. The Cheifton's. The Treaty agrees for both parties to coexist together, under their own governance of their Own People, for a peaceful coexistence. Take me to your leader, Cabbage 😂😂😂 The NZ government are subject's to the King of England to whom they serve. The government serves the King, not the people. You & I are only a human resource to work the government machines they cal the Crown. So,whom do you serve? The King or his subject's ? I know it ain't the Cheifton's or the people. I would not have said, " Take me to your leader, Cabbage." for nothing. Do you want to make the Treaty relative into this century? Then talk to the King of England, his subjects don't care about you & i.

its times like this i wish national got in on its own without beavis and butthead on christophers ankles

Hardly a slamming of “leaked documents” ?

I think the King agrees with the Government, he quite clearly said he wants it embossed in the law so "they can't change nothing" As written that would give them carte blanche to change everything!! Double negatives matter.

@larrytasker7043

6 ай бұрын

Oh, come on he wasn't using double negative to deceive or whatever. He didn't realise and what he meant was "so they won't change anything". People often accidentally use the double negative but that's not what they mean.

@SpatialandTemporal

6 ай бұрын

@@larrytasker7043 Chill out man, it's was clearly parody. He also said "embossed" when clearly what he wanted to say was "enshrined". There's the lesson, words matter. Neither ACT, National or NZ First have not said anything about abolishing the Treaty. The rhetoric is around what Treaty Principles actually means. Modern interpretations by politicians and activist Judges leave it wide open to abuse and reformulation based on whatever the zeitgeist of the moment is.

@mearip6116

6 ай бұрын

Kingi meant to say leave the Treaty alone🤣

@nickc9404

6 ай бұрын

@@mearip6116 been twisted since the 70's thats the problem ..

@wikitoriasmith1713

6 ай бұрын

🙄🙄🙄

As a Kiwi living in the UK I find this small minority of Maori banging on about "we got here first and we demand greater rights based on our ancestry" embarrassing!...... Imagine the cries of racist if Europeans acted in this way. Also, tvnz give the greens an awful amount of airtime considering the tiny amount of votes they got...... captured by infantile woke ideology sadly

@SMD2308

6 ай бұрын

I agree. Imagine in the UK if Brits acted like this: “We were Britons; you came in the Norman Invasion, so we want payments for our lands please”… Like in the UK, how present day Brits would descend from various ancestors (Britons, Angles, Saxons, Viking, Norman, etc.), many Kiwi have both Māori and other heritage, especially British. So we relate to both signatories of the Treaty. However, I notice some, like the Te Pati Māori leaders, only acknowledge their Māori heritage, especially when it comes to politics.

@kentstanley1849

6 ай бұрын

All true. The woke left hand out guilt on the one hand and victimhood on the other. If we're to get past this stupid stage in our history we must defeat identity politics and virtue signaling

@buyhiselllow2767

6 ай бұрын

Scrap the bloody treaty garbage lol 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

@janbrown9195

6 ай бұрын

Māori weren’t first.

@theecanmole

6 ай бұрын

When you get your Brit passport, send us your NZ passport so we know you are not coming back.😀

Was the leak done on purpose to show what can happen ? Anyone who pays attention knows that duplicating already available public services specifically for any subset of any population will have negligible positive outcomes. And if any of the already operating initiatives were working as they should, the results would prove their worth. Fact is that cancer wards and wait lists for coronary care are overly subscribed and not just due to staff shortages. Most of them can be seen smoking on hospital grounds moaning to each other about the lack of help for them.

@lovetruth5518

6 ай бұрын

But isn’t nursing a compassion and doing GODS work, plus getting paid.😢 Are there enough coming through the schools or are there not many? Just asking?

He says there should debate on laws to be made. This government didn't debate lots laws passed under urgency.

@ianstollery4922

6 ай бұрын

You must be talking about the last Labour Govt who passed so much legislation under urgency, think 3 Waters and the attempt to entrench it

@MrShoblang

6 ай бұрын

​@@ianstollery4922i know, i really hate the idea of adequate water infrastructure too. We're so much better off without it.

So I would like to know this rest is: What does this reset entail and is this word RESET related to THE GREAT RESET at all?

I am not an NZFirst or Shane Jones fan, however, I think it was clear he is not a fan of Seymours bill and Mr Jones made it clear that the treaty is not going to be changed, which says all New Zealander Pakeha ,Maori and others are equal in the country. I reckon the bill will not get part the select committee stage.Jones is correct that conversations should occur

@geoffstokes

6 ай бұрын

Act don't actually want anything different than that the true version of the Treaty is recognised in law. Why can't people get that. And I'm NOT an Act supporter by the way, far from it.

@MrShoblang

6 ай бұрын

​@@geoffstokesbecause it's obviously not the case

@user-mrwikohika

6 ай бұрын

There's only two occupants in this land & Treaty. The Crown. The Cheifton's. The Treaty agrees for both parties to coexist together, under their own governance of their Own People, for a peaceful coexistence. Take me to your leader, Cabbage 😂😂😂 The NZ government are subject's to the King of England to whom they serve. The government serves the King, not the people. You & I are only a human resource to work the government machines they cal the Crown. So,whom do you serve? The King or his subject's ? I know it ain't the Cheifton's or the people. I would not have said, " Take me to your leader, Cabbage." for nothing. Do you want to make the Treaty relative into this century? Then talk to the King of England, his subjects don't care about you & i.

@tooxtalivai0690

6 ай бұрын

@@geoffstokes somebody (white media) has race baited this situation which in my opinion has scared non Maori, and infuriated Maori (myself included) majority of us Maori have pakeha heritage and look white (myself included again) I listened to Pakeha Colleagues over the last 40years say some real hateful racist shit not just about Maori, Islanders, Asians and other Whites (Greeks, Italians, Pols, Jews) why? I know why keep em divided so the elite can cash in $$$$$. Thoughts?

Calm down Jenny. The majority wins

@user-no3sl6xz1i

6 ай бұрын

You miss spelled minority

@Badest187

6 ай бұрын

@@user-no3sl6xz1ino his bald head did its to shiny for him to notice

@lisac1619

6 ай бұрын

​@@Badest187*it's too Bloody hell, that was the edited version too 😂

Wow I didn't even no there were any principles written when I was at school I only was aware of a treaty, basically between civilization in the form of colonial colonies and the Māori colonies. With all this talk of reparations and stuff why did the NZ Government pay $18 million to the Moriori people, it wasn't the colonial peoples who committed the genocide of these people it was the Māori, the iwi involved should have payed.

They can't handle any threats to the gravy train 🚂 which is coming to an end 😂

@mikewalters5815

6 ай бұрын

The Minority should not Rule 😮

@samael9445

6 ай бұрын

Your probably one..

@user-no3sl6xz1i

6 ай бұрын

For yous it is

@mvb88

6 ай бұрын

Maori have had it easy for years. Coming from a white guy with a half maori daughter. All I have to do is put her down as being maori and I can get boarding school fees paid. Uniforms paid. A lot of doc and meds are free. Odd that the child I had with a white women requires me to pay for all that. Maori are now being forced to be treated as equals, and they hate it.

@lesfin3265

6 ай бұрын

Is that the gravy train of poverty and oppression? Your perception that everyone gets handouts is delusional but say whatever you need to rationalise your bias 👎🏾

Jenny should be on Maori news channels not National New Zealand station

10 thousand went to hwi 36 thousand went to few fighters . GO FIGURE .

Loving the fact our media are finally asking the hard questions to our democratically voted into power didn't do it for the last 6 years

@peterborich1383

6 ай бұрын

Why did they not start asking the hard questions 6 years ago?

@enigma0876

6 ай бұрын

That is why Winston is right in calling the nz media being bribe by labour.

This is incredibly difficult for Māori because you have senior Maori ministers totally disagreeing with them and they can’t get away with calling them racists! The go to card if someone doesn’t agree with them. Seymour even speaks and is Maori - the ones that turned up to the hui are activists and don’t represent Maori but think they do. I know so many Maori that are ashamed of the hui

@user-gj2oz3qj6g

6 ай бұрын

Bs!!

@wellygirlb6885

6 ай бұрын

Ashamed? Those Māori have not a clue between them how this will impact them and the next generation. Shameful!

@janbrown9195

6 ай бұрын

The numbers at the Hui tell you the real truth look beyond the big mouths and listen to the quiet 🤫 ones .

@tonywood3660

6 ай бұрын

Ah the colonial attitude dies hard....

@Your_Friendly_Neuroscientist

6 ай бұрын

This might be a South Island thing but at the Maraes I go to mock them for their direction and fanaticism but agree with the traditionalism (essentially holding David's view)

Congratulations on actually giving us Serfs of this country the opportunity to have our say irrespective of wether You- The N.Z. Media Agree with our opinions or not! Keep it up 👍 Regards Dave McC

@Camwin

6 ай бұрын

But what do you know about Māoritanga? And why should you have a voice on what that represents in our society? In it's country of origin? Why should ignorant views like yours have any say on the lives of Māori?

There ends the lesson, the country's future rests with.all Kiwis not the iwi alone. This is a democracy and minorities can't change that.

@user-no3sl6xz1i

6 ай бұрын

No not going to happen

Stuff em !!!

30 000 went to Foo Fighters

He's not the king of all us Maori.

We voted for this, please respect that Jenny

The 2nd article says "all people". I want to ask Jenny why it should specifically mention Maori. It says "all people'. Meaning Maori as well. What is there not to understand?

Where was Winston

@user-no3sl6xz1i

6 ай бұрын

He was shaking in his boots😂😂

Principle changes creates ripples that will change te tiriti by stealth .

@LeonieMarshall-tu4gp

6 ай бұрын

Lots of things are happening by stealth

There is no doubt it, mainstream media will just plug away at this. Does Clarkson not understand that people have other more important things in life? How anybody can sit in front of the TV and watch this crap is beyond me?

Foo fighters' concert sounded good , better than the gravy train meeting.

@user-no3sl6xz1i

6 ай бұрын

You might Wana tell hobsons pledge and jb that. Sorry but gravy trains over yous

@user-ng1we9gx5g

6 ай бұрын

i went to both and both were worth it

@_.Marz._

6 ай бұрын

Even the Foo Fighter's embraced the gravy train 🤷‍♂️😅 🎵And did we tell you the name of the game, boy, We call it Riding the Gravy Train🎵 ~ Foo Fighters (PinkFloyd Cover)

Honest question from someone that just emigrated to NZ and trying to figure what the hell is going on here: why did the King say “there are no Principles, the Treaty is written, that’s it…”? I thought that since 1975 the treaty of Waitangi Act, Waitangi Tribunal, various court decisions, various Governments etc. all created and refer to these Principles. I thought that the Principles exist to guide the practical application of the Treaty? Is he saying that these don’t or shouldn’t exist? Again honestly asking and trying to understand here. Thanks!

@Thishandleistakentryagain

6 ай бұрын

The principals are more or less a guide for ministers to implement the treaty/te tiriti into their ministrys. However, these prinicpals over there years have been critisized for undermining the articles of the treaty/te tiriti.

@user-ng1we9gx5g

6 ай бұрын

as you are an immigrant you should have gone to the kingitanga to better understand what we are as Maori fighting for please do not ask question even you dont understand even if you seek to understand you should have gone to Ngaruawahia

@mitchelldenysschen3224

6 ай бұрын

@@Thishandleistakentryagain thanks!🙏🏽. So the King was criticising the contents and existence of Principles then? Been struggling with them myself as they seem to be an open list of sorts and have many sources. I will continue to study, listen and ask questions to understand them better. Thanks again.

@tommcg7564

6 ай бұрын

@@user-ng1we9gx5gthat’s a bit harsh. Ignore that silly korero. Any patai is a good question

@tommcg7564

6 ай бұрын

@@mitchelldenysschen3224he wasn’t criticising he went off the cuff and said a few things he probably didn’t mean to say. Read the room, he stops reading and his minders have nervous looks but can’t do anything 😂

We should have all the facts; how much money/ total cost , to date, 2024, the ToW has cost NEW ZEALAND......BILLONS....They will not inform the free voting people of NEW ZEALAND as they know the shock this would cause. Plus how much money has been taken by five finger discount from the various iwi's. MILLIONS.

Why does Jones talk of a constitution? Will he start quoting Articles? These and many other questions will never be answered

How busy she is undermining the elect government

@LWJCarroll

6 ай бұрын

She is doing an excellent job of holding an MP to account and letting him express his political vies etc.

It looks like the leaked document wasn’t part of the coalition’s “due diligence “ talks and Mr Jones seems to have been blind sided by its release? I would have expected Act to know of it and share it as part of the agreement discussions. Imo.

Dizmay sounds like a judge not an independent journalist.

Just looking at comments made, you can see most are from uneducated (Nz history, legislation & treaty) citizens. The Treaty actually gives the right for non Māori to live in this country full stop. It has nothing to do with ‘we can’t help what happened in 1840’. The basis of this agreement is woven into constitutional legislation which over the years and even in recent times, has been broken, ignored or abused. Apologies for such matters have come from THE CROWN because it was their representatives that established an agreement and subsequently broke it. The principles of the treaty MUST reflective the core agreements which were between Māori and British reps. Article 2 ENSURES indigenous sovereignty rights. Shane is WRONG re election gives them the governing right to do what they want, no it does not…the treaty was signed between crown (govt) and Māori (iwi)…. Changes, debates and or agreements must be signed off by both. Shane knows that and has lectured on that. Roll on his kōrero at Waitangi. And whilst there were 10,000 at hui, there were up to 16000 who participated online. This issue will not disappear or become quiet.

Include the first inhabitants of the Land , Acknowledge do not ignore.

@21kiwi24

6 ай бұрын

Acknowledge, ok. Wndlesslessy litigate billions in way of settlements to descendents who has nothing to do with the actions? Breach democratic principles and allow Maori to co govern, abolishing the principle of elected representatives and one person One vote? Maori elite have become tricksters a and are milking the system.

Well spoken Mr Jones...for the sake of the majority keep up the fight against this crap. People have become sick and tired of this nonsense with a small minority. Get rid of the Waitangi tribunal for a start.

@adsdft585

6 ай бұрын

Law is complicated. Tribunals help in court work.

@suehowie152

6 ай бұрын

Don't you dare speak for me.

@user-no3sl6xz1i

6 ай бұрын

Nah get rid of you. Maori are fighting for their rights what's so wrong with that

@user-mm8pj4cm8j

6 ай бұрын

Government s elected by the majority of voters in New Zealand have the mandate to run this country for the benefit of all,NOT a handful of Māori stirrers who think they have the power to run the direction of this country .Time for Māori to identify as as equal,not something with privileged rights ,privileged powers.

@getsorted0185

6 ай бұрын

There are 160 ethnicities in New Zealand who all have the same rights as one another one person one vote equality thanks Shane

Is Mr. Morgan the brown Santa Claus?

Big turn out my arse! They should have had the Foo Fighters open for them.

I have every confidence in Shane Jones. 100 percent confidence.

Any amendment to the law must comply with the Bill of Rights Act, a majority on election day does not mean the Bill of Rights Act can be bypassed… Shane Jones thinks the majority can do what they want, they cannot..

@mariag3605

6 ай бұрын

Covid legislation, mandating no jab/no job completely denied protections enshrined in the NZ Bill of Rights, also...

@user-mrwikohika

6 ай бұрын

There's only two occupants in this land & Treaty. The Crown. The Cheifton's. The Treaty agrees for both parties to coexist together, under their own governance of their Own People, for a peaceful coexistence. Take me to your leader, Cabbage 😂😂😂 The NZ government are subject's to the King of England to whom they serve. The government serves the King, not the people. You & I are only a human resource to work the government machines they cal the Crown. So,whom do you serve? The King or his subject's ? I know it ain't the Cheifton's or the people. I would not have said, " Take me to your leader, Cabbage." for nothing. Do you want to make the Treaty relative into this century? Then talk to the King of England, his subjects don't care about you & i.

@21kiwi24

6 ай бұрын

The direction towards and changes already enacted towards co governance spat in the have of the bill of rights. Discrimination on the matters of race when it came out health? Education ? Fundamentally counter to the principals of the bill of rights.

It’s the lazy eye for me.

The phrase "The principles of the Treaty of Waitangi" is in NZ law, in spit of what the king says. Surely it's vital to define what they mean. Nobody now seems to be able to. It's as if a whole group of people are groping their way about in the dark.

@user-no3sl6xz1i

6 ай бұрын

What do you think is written in te tiriti

@user-mrwikohika

6 ай бұрын

There's only two occupants in this land & Treaty. The Crown. The Cheifton's. The Treaty agrees for both parties to coexist together, under their own governance of their Own People, for a peaceful coexistence. Take me to your leader, Cabbage 😂😂😂 The NZ government are subject's to the King of England to whom they serve. The government serves the King, not the people. You & I are only a human resource to work the government machines they cal the Crown. So,whom do you serve? The King or his subject's ? I know it ain't the Cheifton's or the people. I would not have said, " Take me to your leader, Cabbage." for nothing. Do you want to make the Treaty relative into this century? Then talk to the King of England, his subjects don't care about you & i.

Which part of they had other commitments didn't she understand?

@jame2433

6 ай бұрын

I think it's fair for her to press on that given he didn't state the nature of those other commitments and why those were more important than attending the hui

@paton57

6 ай бұрын

​@@jame2433There are more pressing problems than catering to activists

@timdinsdale2437

6 ай бұрын

Why should he have to state the nature of his other commitments, He is a busy man and the fact that we have Waitangi in a few days time. These reporters think they can just keep asking the same stupid question until they get an answer that fits there on agenda. @@jame2433

@Aids183

6 ай бұрын

@@paton57 I'm not an activist, and as a tax paying citizen it would have been nice to know why they didnt attend as all those that did were treated with respect and kindness.

She just does not want to hear wat he has to say she is working still for corrupt labour ,you can hear it and see it And still talking more Maori on tv than before ,like i said the undermining the pressent government

@Aids183

6 ай бұрын

Incorrect she let him talk and respected his opinion thats why he was able to finish what he wanted to say, They had a conversation, your just looking for a chance to moan.

@suehowie152

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, like Jessica Munch..

Very good interview Madam.

" ...the amount of people..."

Even juvenile kids came off a prison for free kfc and why to Māori think it’s an accomplishment to go to a hui for free food and then gloat about people turning up?

@dallynstevens7855

6 ай бұрын

Gas lighting with assumptions = idiotry

@dash-kt7uf

6 ай бұрын

Are you for real? That is exactly what is happening on the Māori side!