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@BamisayeBabafemi

Жыл бұрын

Will, I have an interesting theory that you might have to cross-check. I am of the view that it was the drilling movement that initiated the fire and not the mere exposure of the lithium-ion. What was done in the video sent to you is different from your experience.

@bernardthedisappointedowl6938

Жыл бұрын

Great to see your primal joy in setting something on fire, ^oo^

@KarlKarsnark

Жыл бұрын

their screwdriver also made it so very little oxygen was reaching the interior of the cell. the heat/chips from the drill may not have helped, but you should be able to drill through it many times with no issue. SS still has a long way to go. Toyota supposedly has something "amazing" in the works, supposedly. Thanks for a great vid!

@X_iCjay

Жыл бұрын

I make electric unicycle videos and we worry about this all the time, check my channel.

@EnFuego79

Жыл бұрын

3:05 "If I get cancer, it's because of this" LMAO!

And this is why I appreciate your tear-downs. Thanks for your professional attitude Will.

@cdoublejj

Жыл бұрын

i'm with max headroom on this, any "review" that doesn't have a tear down isn't a review.

@kele1264

Жыл бұрын

I agree. I feel a little guilty that this one was fun!

@jamesscott1932

Жыл бұрын

Initially I thought the thumbnail was Clickbait. Then, having watched the video Will has proven out that claims by manufacturers must be tested. They are just puffing until they are tested and proven right or wrong.

@anthonyenos6506

Жыл бұрын

ditto

I came for the fire Will🔥🔥🔥

When you were running away laughing, it brought me instantly way back to my childhood and my brothers and I running and laughing uncontrollably. Thanks for that.. R.I.P. Billy and Johnny

Holy ****! I can't believe you actually tried to puncture that on your desk 😂 I would have at least taken it out in the yard regardless of what someone says.

@WillProwse

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that was stupid haha oops

@nielsdaemen

Ай бұрын

@@WillProwse You were so lucky it didn't blast into flames the first time you punctured it...

@WillProwse

Ай бұрын

@@nielsdaemen super duper scary

This by far was the most exciting Will Prowse video I have seen! This is why I only use Lithium Phosphate You just don't run into those kinds of explosive issues!

@leonordin3052

Жыл бұрын

Though then you get low amp draw, low power.

@jetfu400

Жыл бұрын

@@leonordin3052 low amp power draw? that' not accurate. c rating is lower compared to li-ion. but that doesn't mean it's low. its just lower in conparison.

Glad you posted this. Can't say your test was the same as the Chins test since the drill created far more friction than a sharp object being shoved directly through a cel with no rotational force. But your point is still very valid. Battery chemistries of any kind are flammable.

@WillProwse

Жыл бұрын

Yes very true, but if this was LiFePO4 and the drill's friction caused combustion of the electrolyte, it would be a nice slow burn. Going by this reaction, we can see it has cobalt, oxygen was released and reacted rapidly.

@WillProwse

Жыл бұрын

Really wild to see it have a self-propagating runaway like lithium polymer. I was not expecting that. I do not think this is a true solid state cell. Even though the data sheet claims that it is.

@georgemead6608

Жыл бұрын

This presents a very serious issue when used inside any structure. What happens when the device is exposed to an external fire. Perhaps one that would be manageable without the batteries.

@notreal5311

Жыл бұрын

Great video. I'd like to see another cell tested with puncture only like the Chin engineer video. Also similar tests with a LiFePO4. Sure it'll get a bunch of views also! Thanks again!

@RobertLowery

Жыл бұрын

@@WillProwse Maybe this is why they were saying it was "semi solid state" in their emails.

Thanks for the puncture test!!!! I would never have done it. Your channel is priceless for DIY people like me.👍

Will, As a Fire Marshal we are seeing more and more training videos for all the various rechargeable batteries and charging systems. It is only a matter of time before there is a huge, HUGE fire in a storage or charging facility of battery systems. With electric vehicles and more and more solar systems in use than ever before, Fire Departments will be having their hands full!!!

@FirstLastOne

Жыл бұрын

It's already happening with people stealing parts here and there and trying to cobble together an e-bike or scooter in their home only to have it set fire to the whole place and leave many people homeless in the process if they are lucky enough to get out alive.

@jamesray9009

Жыл бұрын

I have a great Idea to isolate and possible prevent house battery fires.. Hempcrete small room for them.. I'm positive that it would keep a battery fire from spreading.. electrical outside of that couldn't really change more than regular. But hempcrete at 1' think has r30 ish insulation factor so keeping them at a optimal temp would also be easier..

@exotichandyman

Жыл бұрын

The Felicity Ace caught fire and sank because of the batteries in the cars.

@acmebrainsurgery

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesray9009 I was thinking a small concrete room w/ whatever fire extinguisher works best. Would water exacerbate a battery fire, or not?

@acmebrainsurgery

Жыл бұрын

Fascinating, I hadn't relaized these batteries presented such a threat, and w/ numbers increasing over time, yikes!😱

I subscribed to your channel a few months back in preparation for a Motorhome solar build but I just love to watch your videos and to see someone enjoy what they do as much as you...It cheers me up to hear your passion and excitement...Well done Will especially after suffering so much personal hardship...

This was the most entertaining video you've produced. Really appreciate the time you take to tear down these units to show us what's really going on inside.

Thanks for taking this to the level they showed fir safety. I am so tired of all the largely inflated safety claims across all industries right now I am glad for actual proof.

You had way too much fun making this video. Love it.

Imagine shooting the whole package 🤩💥🔥

In their example the puncturing device was left in place not allowing the electrolyte to be exposed to air. In your example, you created a hole with the drill and the hole was open to air. So it's only kind of safe... only if you use a screwdriver or something like that to puncture it and then leave it in place. ..

@l.bustamante1442

Жыл бұрын

plus, heat was generated by the drill

@user-pf5xq3lq8i

Жыл бұрын

It was the heat from the drill. He did not do a puncture using a spike. Why did he not replicate the same test? What an idiot.

Bless your heart Will, Good Lord brother, that was exciting to say the least. I'm so glad you took it outside for the final puncturing, that would have been a real bummer for it to catch on fire on your workbench and inside your home. Been watching you for a few years now, and because you're so down to earth and have such a straightforward way of explaining things (( you make it fun just listening to you )) I actually built my own solar generator and achieved complete success in doing so. So glad to see you doing well and enjoying life, I'm sure everyone on your channel (( like myself )) thoroughly enjoy all that you do for us. You have provided so much valuable information Will , and your time and effort is priceless to all of us out here just trying to achieve some level of independence and backup power systems. No one wants to be caught in the dark that's for sure, and you have definitely provided so much light to our lives. Stay blessed and keep yourself safe, the world is going sideways it seems at times, so please take nothing for granted as you're out and about. Danny in Texas

That was freaking nuts! TY for the educational and entertaining content!

I'm still chuckling several hours after watching this video Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada

If you noticed, on their puncture test, they left the puncture probe in the battery - when you drilled, you pulled the bit out and allowed oxygen in - it would have been interesting to see what result they would have gotten if they had pulled their probe out

Hearing you laugh and run away from that fire had me laughing out loud. That was crazy to see the volatility of that pouch.

Thanks! Always love learning on your channel.

Wow you are honest and true to life out there protecting the people. You are one of the few I trust. I started my solar system by watching your videos glad you put them together little late for me. Keep on keeping on

I’m glad I have regular pouch cells in my Lossigy batteries. Thank you for the video as always.

Thank you. This why I gratefully appreciate what you do for all of us.

This is why I love this channel.

Great video. It's people like you that are saving lives!!

Wow. Most exciting battery test ever!

Incredible video. Well played young man, really enjoy all you vids. Keep on doing what your doing.

What could possibly go wrong... Will, your neighbors must love you! Interesting video.

Thankfully, you didn't get burned. I think the cells were quite what the manufacturer stated. Good review. Thanks!

Will, that was absolutely AWESOME!!!!! You are one brave smart guy. Thanks.

LOL! You had way too much fun drilling thru that cell. And I enjoyed watching it too! Thank you!

Hey Will, As a retired Haz-Mat safety specialist, I will let you slide on the on the rubber "Crocs", but may I suggest adding some Fire Resistant Nomex Socks to your clothing attire. I am not saying as an everyday thing but for situations like this, Safety is #1. Actually, on second thought, It would be hilarious to see you in full bunker gear while performing tests like this. You can purchase some nice used lightweight bunker gear on eBay that would go great with your Crocs & Nomex socks

@jamesscott1932

Жыл бұрын

More fun in short sleeves, shorts and crocs. Who needs a yucky respirator? Breathe through your nose!❤

This was VERY educational. Thanks for the work.

Wow! Glad I saw this video. Good Job Will. No telling how many lives you might have saved.

You never know until you have one in your hands. Priceless. Great cancer joke too. Keep up the wonderful work, Will. Absolute great teardown. Peace

If you're going to test to failure (which was awesome by the way) you might want to make a little firepit outside with some cheap blocks from Home Depot or Lowe's so you don't end up staining your sidewalk or driveway.

Love your work Will, Glad you had your safety crocs on ;)

I can now check that off my bucket list.

That was the most fiya 🔥 video thus far, Will.

I've got a classic CHINS LiFePo 100ah battery arriving tomorrow thanks to your tear down on the battery. Hopefully buy three more soon. 😎

You had too much fun with that Will. Thanks!

SWEET BUT SCARY ❕👍🏼 I love the looks of your back yard solar panels everywhere Keep the fantastic videos coming Will

This review was fire 🔥

Your videos are simply priceless

I sure as hell didn’t expect that!

What an informative video. Been hearing of fires with these batteries. Good to see Will address this.

Thank you for sharing your real life test.

Safety Crocs on-fleek Will. Nice video 📸

Most fun I've ever had watching a will Prowse video! LOL

Been watching for years. This is your best video ever! Still laughing, but please be safe!

This is a really good content. Tks dude

In the demo that the manufacturer sent you, they did not remove the item that punctured it. It was a plug then. your puncture caused the gas to emit after the drill bit heated up with speed, that’s when the real fire started. That was fun! Thanks for showing us the crap we need to stay away from.

Glad you tested this stuff. Crazy

Talk about taking one for your viewers, thanks mate.

That was....... AWESOME!!!

Love the safety Crocs. 😋

dramatic. thanks, Will, for testing this stuff for us, keeping us safe.

Glad you finally put safety glasses on!

Thank you for your honestly test. That's Nut's!!!

You are awesome man I love your vids

Was going to stream a movie for some entertainment this evening, but thought I'd check out some of your latest videos first as it has been a week or so. Well there is nothing I can stream that will be more entertaining yet informative than what I just witnessed lol! Would love to be your neighbour! Keep rocking the videos Will.

I got a good laugh out of the pack blowing up! 🤗

🇨🇦 THANK YOU FOR THE INFO I DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE TILL I WATCHED THIS VIDEO I HAVE PASSED THE INFO ON SO OTHER PPL WILL ALSO UNDERSTAND THE SAFTY AS WELL AGAIN THANK YOU

Nice review. Thanks for sharing.

Your neighbors must love you.

Wow, Will. Incredible

Will you are having too much fun :-) Good for you, it is important to like what you do for a living! I am researching batteries to use in my 48 V club car golf cart this time instead of a house system. It’s amazing how quickly things change just over the last couple years in prices and lithium batteries in general

Great to see your safety crocs on for the drill test

thanks Will ! You are always on the cutting edge!! You may need a Bigger SAFE area outside, LOL Always educational, THANKS again, keep em coming!!!

That fire was nuts!

Tell it like it is! Good video and info...keep it up!

Yes.... very safe 😂👍 Nice test 😉

Thanks Will for 2 Videos today, was wondering what you have been up to.

Ooh My god ! 😲That was devastating and very dangerously awesome ! ⚠️Happy you was aware of its potential and punctured it for us preppers to see outside away from every thing . The explosion was way over the ordinary surprise expected of the difference in NMC , Pol and safer Lipofe4 cells . Stay safe😉 and May The Solar Be With you .🤗

Great video!

Brilliant, it lit on fire. I like CHINS batteries, but I would go for the LiFePO4 type anytime. Thanks Will, you are amazing & entertaining. Rog from Wales 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿👊

Indeed, important to understand the hidden potential energy of these storage devices…

That was fun!

Very funny! 🤣 As soon as you took a drill bit to it, I thought , "So much for a puncture test! Now we're going to do a can-I-get-it-to-blow-up-for-KZread friction test!" Nice to see a preliminary look at solid state. It will be interesting to see the refinements to follow.

@douglaslin5469

Жыл бұрын

If this battery was mounted in for instance my boat's lazarette (which is the storage space under the main cabin's coach seats) and someone put a fitting into that space with a drill ... such an adventure could very well happen. Not sure though about what would happen with Lithium Iron Phosphate Prismatic cells. Such batteries are installed in plastic boxes though, which adds some distance ...

The smile on your face when you said let's take it outside cracked me up. Crazy to see the reaction. WTH!

"Krikey, she's a beauty!!". Will Prowse, you are truly the American "Steve Irwin" of solar. Keep up the good work.

Your channel is fire!

So good!

Best video ever!

This review was lit🔥 🔥

Good video Will. Chinn's was right it's a semi-solid state till it gets damaged then its semi-volatile. Looked like microwave popcorn pouch I would not what to have those in an unsecured-protected location let alone the hazards to off gassing. Thanks for the video looks like fun Stay Safe & Good Luck

yup. definitely sticking to my lithium titanate bank! i hope not all solid state batteries will be this way.

Well....That was awesome.

So nice of you to burn that in your driveway so I do not have them burning aboard my boat while I am 100 miles from land. Anytime one of your product tests results in fire, you are saving people.

Holy crap, glad you're okay dude... Some of that s***'s getting pretty dangerous lol. Stay safe!

HAHAHA Greatest video to date!! Loved it!!

lol geez, I was freaking out when you attempted it inside on your workbench. I'm glad it didn't catch on fire until you took it outside first. lol even if their claims that it was safe bore out, that was crazy.

Oh Whow - I thought Chins was a good company - now - I don't; thinks so as much - thanks man - you are the best battery solar guy on KZread

You are my spirit animal

Always entertaining. . . 😉

That’s right. Some sort of proper chimney for capturing escaping gasses and possibly a smothering system to shut down a reaction like the one at hand.

Whoa! This is the ultimate IIHS crash test for lithium ion batteries! We really should have standardized safety ratings for these inverters! Was hoping to see a similar trauma on the phosphate battery cell for comparison.

Nothing but good clean fun.

thanks COOP ...