So many things to say about this very interesting video. I just installed a Propex HS2000 (the blue one) in the travel trailer I built. I wouldn't ever install a diesel tank inside a van because in case of a leak, it will be impossible to remove the smell and the whole van is almost scrap. I had manufacture a plate that allows the two pipes to go through my plywood floor, I was concerned like you about the heat may ignite the plywood. The silicone blue sleeves supplied with the heater are quite efficient to protect against the heat produced at the exhaust. You can use an adjustable "Y" to split the heating in two and decide which conduit got more hot air than the other. Propex is also selling acoustic ducting to reduce the blown air noise. Normally, those heaters are installed directly on the floor and their intake and exhaust pipes pass through the floor then the blue sleeves and the flexible pipes are connected under the van floor: you will have to make sure that the hose clamp holding the exhaust pipe will always be well tighten to avoid any toxic gas leaking inside the van, a CO2 detector and a gas detector are a must. Thank you for your very informative video!

@dadzvanz936

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much. I actually do have a CO2 detector and agree that ANY van should have one!! It is a great little heater and will look for that installation. It will be quieter with my cabinet doors on. Thanks again

@johnthorsteinsson6122

2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear you had success!! I rely like mine and it is very fuel efficient.

@canadianwarrior2108

2 жыл бұрын

So you have a diesel leak, you have a smell, you have a propane leak, you have a massive explosion! Only a genious would prefer the explosion!

@metaglypto

7 ай бұрын

Not if used correctly. A propane tank should be kept outside the trailer where the gas can dissipate. I have had several gas or diesel leaks. Only one time did I have a propane leak due to a bad gasket, and it was discovered outside where it should be worked on.@@canadianwarrior2108

I'm buying a dry heater soon and I have to decide between diesel or propane. Right now, I'm leaning to a Propex - specifically the HS2211 as I want to mount it externally somewhere on my Tacoma. Excellent video, thanks!

@dadzvanz936

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. I think you would be very happy with it. So far we have been in -15C, about 5F and it is fantastic. I am working on a quilted blanket that fits down the front and side windows as that’s where you loose the most heat.

@marauderhot

Жыл бұрын

I did the 2211 (Dirty Harry's badge number BTW) on my off-road teardrop I made. For the hot air vent, I used a 70mm to 63mm silicone turbo hose reducer and 2.5" stainless exhaust tube. For the return air I used a 70mm to 60mm silicone turbo hose reducer and 2" white PVC. Works awesome.

Solid vid,! I think I may use one of those for a van build. Using the cheap diesel heater for the truck tent now...but part of the setup is having it a few feet from the truck in case it goes up in flames!

@dadzvanz936

9 ай бұрын

Yes. I had little trust in those for a good build. I just installed an Esbar diesel heater in a sprinter. Very nice!!!

I lived Full Time in my Van with a Propex Heater and an undercount Motorhome 12gall (not lb) propane bottle. The heat was so comfortable. I filled up every two to three months with propane and I never had to worry about high altitudes. It also worked just like a home heater. Set it and forget it. I understand (but how no personally experience with it yet) that a diesel heater will use a lot of battery power heating up the glow plugs at each start up so most people blast the heat and then shut it down. Quite the opposite of a typical heater system. As for exhaust temps, well any system you properly install will or should work fine, but on the diesel heater, that bend might be the issue. A 90 degree bend will increase the temps on the pipe because of the restriction it causes.

@camposvazquez

2 ай бұрын

You comment is very informative and appreciated... Please what propane heater and model did you use? I have an older 21' class b+ with a 12 propane tank... I use the propane for cooking on the stove and heating water with the water heater and I have a propane refrigerator My concern is running out of propane...

@TheItinerantCraftsman

2 ай бұрын

@@camposvazquez hey Proxpex HS2000

Propex rocks. I mounted underbody and ran heat to factory heat tubes in a vw bus.

@johnthorsteinsson6122

Жыл бұрын

That’s a great idea. Thanks!!

Nice job.

Great installation

@dadzvanz936

10 ай бұрын

Thanks.

Thanks for the great video. I’m from New Brunswick and will be going going on ski trips in Alberta. I was going to get the 2000. But since seeing this video, it has made me reconsider going to the 2800. My can is a Transit 250 with high roof and extended. I have a garage as well for Mountain bikes bikes and storage. Questions if I may, do you think the 2800 short cycles and regret not going to the 2000 and do you feel the different altitudes will cause a problem? I am an HVAC technician, so taking the unit part to clean or maintain is not an issue. I lived in Canmore, Alberta in the mountains for 3 years, so I know how cold it can get in the -30s +. Cheers

@dadzvanz936

9 ай бұрын

Hi Marc. Thanks for watching. I do not regret buying the 2800. It served me very well especially when heating from cold soaked or on the cold morning. Great air flow and hot! As for altitude, I live in Alberta at 4000 ft and have had it in the mountains in Utah and Colorado -7000ft with no issues. Hope that helps. Enjoy the van!

Great installation! I installed the HS2000 in my Promaster. I get back fire on start up. Anyone have ideas or advice?

@dadzvanz936

Жыл бұрын

Make sure there is sufficient air intake. Also sometimes it takes time for the lines to bleed air.

@scottbarker4579

Жыл бұрын

@Dadz Vanz Thanks! I will troubleshoot both suggestions. Watched more of your content too. Great channel !

The turret plate is the wrong way up. Plus the exhaust temperature will be basically the same wether it's a diesel or propane heater. The bus things that you call them arw silicone hoses and can take extreme temperatures, they aren't just a standard bit of rubber. The proper HS2000 uses approx double the amount of fuel, in money wise. 13kg will last 96hrs, costing £40 and a 2kw diesel heater will use 10L in 100hrs and costs £18, or reduce diesel the cost would be £13.

@MarkTLarry

Жыл бұрын

Iirc, the heater's efficiency determines the exhaust heat.

At 6:46, you said, "these are a little bit more money". That's kind of an understatement. I like the Propex too, but at $1000, that puts it about 7 times more expensive than a typical Chinese Diesel heater and way out my reach. Furthermore, the Propex doesn't produce nearly the same heat output the Diesel heaters do. Which could explain the reduced exhaust temperature.

@marauderhot

Жыл бұрын

At least you can afford to complain on KZread because it's free.

@g-whiz286

Жыл бұрын

@@marauderhot Yep. One of the few joys I have left in my life.

@g-whiz286

Жыл бұрын

@@marauderhot At least at today's prices (11/6/22), it's about 22% cheaper (normalized to cost/BTU) to heat with propane rather than Diesel. Who knows how long that will last? I also question the efficiency of the Diesel heaters with all of those BTUs leaving through the tail pipe and not into the heated space.

@dadzvanz936

Жыл бұрын

All very good points. My biggest issue is the smell of any diesel that may get on anything in the van. Propane is cleaner burning and smelling. I also consider the fact that $50 heating here or there should not ruin my $100k van

@Captndarty

Жыл бұрын

You’re complaining about a $1000 heater and comparing it to a cheap Chinese piece of junk? Go ahead get what you pay for and suffer.

Been awhile now, Are you enjoying the 6 times the cost to run the propane heater (Including the need to charge your battery way more often). BTW, You didnt want a 400 degree heat exhaust going thru your floor, so you installed a 450 degree heat exhaust... ONLY IN AMERICA!!!

@dadzvanz936

2 жыл бұрын

Well. Actually I live in Alberta, Canada 👍😁To answer your question, YES. The Propex is a far better heater. Cleaner to deal with, sips fuel ( a 20 lb bottle lasts 60 hours, about 10 to 12 days at -15C/10F), costs $15 to fill, digitally controlled temp, timer so you can set it to be warm after your ski day so you don’t waste propane. Have not had any issues with battery power even in winter running it. And I have not had the issue of melting the exhaust pipe like I did with the diesel heater. I will put one in my next build for sure.

@canadianwarrior2108

2 жыл бұрын

@@dadzvanz936 HAHAHA, You a funny one, I live in Saskatoon Sask. 20lb to fill is $30.00. At -15C you will be running your heater on high, so you will get arond 25 hours on a 20LB tank and you will be running it 100% of the time at that temp. So even if it was 60 hours, thats not even 3 days, let alone 10-12. My cheap chinese diesel heater runs on low for 26 hours on 3.78 liters (1 gallon) of fuel ($7.00) More if I need it higher which I sometimes do! Therefore i am getting double the run time For the same $$$ and zero risk of an explosion. YOU SIMPLY ARE NOT GETTING PROPANE AT $0.50/POUND WHEN THE CANADIAN AVERAGE IS $1.31.

@chrissparrow7477

Жыл бұрын

@@canadianwarrior2108 wow, chill bro

@marauderhot

Жыл бұрын

@@canadianwarrior2108 I guess your mother never told you if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing.

@tentsrus6945

Жыл бұрын

@@canadianwarrior2108 There is ALWAYS ONE OF THESE KNOW IT ALLS commenting! Why be an A$$? The mans video is appreciated by most. Very good.

Lol despite the fact your van already has an exhaust from the engine that runs at over 500 degrees. Propex is great but i find the diesel gives me more heat.

@schristiansen3151

10 ай бұрын

Your exhaust doesn't run through a wood cabinet in your camper 🤣🤣🤣

I would be worried about having a 20 lb propane tank in the van !