The Chinese heater is a copy of the Eberspächer Airtronic D4 4 kw, and some parts are interchangeable, it’s a reasonable copy for the money except for the electronics, it’s not weather sealed so can’t be mounted under a vehical and the software does not have the same level of control ie the Eberspächer you just set it to the required temp and it does the rest, the Chinese heater tends to soot up if ran on low heat too long, so be prepared to split the main housing to decoke it from time to time. There’s some lively FB groups on how to customize the Chinese heaters display/controller to,make it more reliable. Would I have a Chinese heater? nope, my campers Eberspächer is 21yr old and still works fine, some I fitted 30+ years ago are still working. As you’r in Canada, if heading off somewhere a bit chilly in winter -30-40c you may want to think about which one would you trust, having said that you could take a whole new Chinese heater for spares, a motor for the Webasto costs more than the compleat Chinese heater kit.

@Badgeweefixstuff

3 жыл бұрын

so true 🇨🇦🛠️

Slight difference in price? $1300? That's a big difference. More than most can afford.

You could replace alot of stuff on the china one before you get to 1500 .

Hi...Just letting you know that I have 2 China heaters with aluminium housings both bought in Canada from BC to Ont., no sales tax for less that $200 each delivered to my front door ,in less than 1 week ,installed into vans by myself.These units have been in operation now for 2 years with no issues. They are awesome for the low price.Just started my third year with them. Just love them !!!

@miketammaro5609

3 жыл бұрын

how is the sound on them?

@boejiden1065

3 жыл бұрын

Great sound quality

@miketammaro5609

3 жыл бұрын

@@boejiden1065 haha you got one? seriously how loud is it?

@boejiden1065

3 жыл бұрын

Haha no I don’t have one yet but I will be going the Chinese route. TONS of good reviews and long term users that I’ve never heard complain about the noise level.

@boejiden1065

3 жыл бұрын

Although I heard it can get noisy when it’s burning down your van...so idk...trade offs?

was hoping you would fire them both up so we could hear the noise difference

I still would purchase the Chinese one because of the LARGE price spread. If the Webasto was 400 to 500 dollars I could see purchasing it but with a 1300 price difference over the Chinese one.. no way. It's not a deal-breaker for me!

@Endless_Skyway_Adventures

3 жыл бұрын

Check out the Seven Wanders the World Channel. He had one installed, worked a short time, he pulled it apart and it was gunked up inside... Webasto or Propex would be my choice.

The concern over having a small diesel tank inside the van is pretty overblown. Unleaded gasoline fumes have a 'flashpoint' of -45F while diesel fumes won't ignite until well over 100F(up to 200F depending on the grade). People have had heating oil tanks in their basements or next to their homes for decades without issue. Diesel also doesn't 'off gas' fumes near as much as gasoline so the odds of there even being fumes inside the van are slim. Leaks and/or spills of diesel in the van will stink, but there is little danger. Does that mean I would go with the Chinese heater? Not necessarily. I'm a big believer in 'Buy once, cry once' and having had a Webasto in a plow truck I know the reliability of them.

I have a Webasto. I've had it over 5 years no problem. A friend had one and it stopped burning fuel and just dripped fuel. I've wstchdd some KZread videos where some have had good luck with the Chinese knockoffs and others have problems right out of the box. Don't be directly in front of where it blows the air out. It's extremely hot. One KZreadr put a splitter on his so it blew air in different directions. You're going to love it. No more propane bomb!

I had a webasto heater in my big rig. On one trip I had my fuel lines freeze and the truck shut down but the heater kept me warm while I waited for the mechanic to show up. Kept me warm and safe @ - 30c.

best way to wake up with a new chrome video

@IzzyOnTheMove

3 жыл бұрын

@@pulsey2001 hahaha 😎 weirdos unite🎉💜

Thanks for this video Chrome, I also noticed the fan on the Webasto heater is bigger and probably moves more air than the knock off one... I've been thinking of a diesel heater for my boat, but on a boat, you got to have water seals on all the connectors... so thanks for this video comparison... in the end, you get what you pay for... you got this Chrome, you and Cruz should be toasty warm this winter... stay weird, I think your a keeper just as you are... lots of luv to you and Cruz, stay safe, stay weird, stay healthy... I know you'll be warm this winter...

I worked at Volvo for 30+years and we installed hundreds of webastel heater the to heat the motor & the one to heat the cab You made the right choice

Thanks for the news. I just received delivery of my new home; a Ford E150. My next step is the build.

Rainer is a breath of fresh air. No bullshit to that man what so ever. He just got a new customer today. I have been using Owl not anymore. Thank you for introduction to the man behind the scene.

Love it, when it’s that big a price difference you really want to know, now we do. Thanks guys.

Great information! Thanks Chrome and Raynor!

Wow! Thanks Chrome! I was wondering which unit was better. Great informational video! Thanks Chrome and Raynor! 😁❤️

@daniellethornton

3 жыл бұрын

Webasto is going on the list! Smaller unit, better made, and it’s made in America! I would paid for the peace of mind. Buy the quality tool over the cheap tool and you’d only have to make one purchase! So I totally agree with Chrome on this buy😁❤️

Thanks for the comparison, your boy is very knowledgeable.

Had the Wabasto in my big trucks. Worked day after day with no issues. Pricey but worth it.

I agree with everything but come on a jet taking off? Lol thats a little dramatic I worked on a aircraft carrier if that is close to a jet taking off ur waking up the city ur sleeping in lol

AWESOME TO HEAR SO MUCH FROM OUR HERO RAYNIER 👍👍 !!! sorry if I misspelled your name 🤷‍♂️

He knows his stuff. It’s crazy how much the differences were. Only the best will do.

Man, a Raynor in your life is worth it's weight in gold. I'll be buddy heater heating for awhile mostly because I'd have to also pay an installer for anything else and I can't afford all that. So it's not even just the price of the heater to consider, it's the price of the installer.

@blessedbeyond2118

3 жыл бұрын

Dawn one day you will be where chrome is at Your channel is growing and you will have as many followers we are almost at 100k here at the weirdo camp lol

I also had a chinese heater. After 2 oilpumps I upgraded to planar 2d. It is cheaper than the webasto and the quality is the same.

i could get 7 chinese heaters for the price of ONE higher quality one. so i might just stick with the chinese

I went with a Amazon fridge cooler instead of the dometic, reason being is so I could use the savings for a webasto. I rather have a fridge fail on me instead of something that potentially could burn my van down haha

I do believe i will go Webasto due to the quality and safety. Thanks Chrome.

My neighbor's car caught fire recently. These reviews and those situations paint a great perspective on SAFETY in van life.

This is SUPER helpful. My (dearly departed) Dad gave me some great advice many, many years ago: buy the best you can afford. I would rather wait, work more, save, and get the better built one, the one that won't keep me awake at night with worry (especially because I'll have a cat and a a dog in my van with me). Yes it's a huge price difference, but clearly, you get what you pay for. P.S. $1500 will buy a lot of gas to drive somewhere warm(er) for the winter :-) Thanks so much for sharing this, Ray is truly great at what he does and I look forward to working with him next year when I get my van.

Hey Chrome and Cruz and Ray Outfitted guy....it's good to learn new things... very informative video.. Thanks for the video🦁🐶🦁🐶🦁🐶🦁

WOW !!! Thanks For This Superbly Informative Break Down Comparison 👍👍👍

Very informative. Thank you guys ✅

Thank You, for this very good instruction. I know, webasto ist the more better choice. But the price of the China heater ist unbeatable.

@VANCITYVANLIFE

3 жыл бұрын

Ray Outfitted said the burning chamber in the Webasto and Espar heaters cost roughly the same as the entire Chinese heater kit. Big difference!

I went with a propex heater. Works great, very reliable and no maintenance.

Another great video

Excellent! Thanks guys. Good info.

Great knowledge

Well, that pretty much sums it up Chrome. This is the only video like this that I have seen good job. Now that you have cleared the air and I now understand and can now purchase safely. I have been looking for side by side comparisons and only find the cheap Chinese heater "great heater" reviews.

extremely helpful chrome! thank you for sharing this information. you really do get what you pay for. i was thinking to throw in a cheap knock off... but now i'll just hold off for a while till i can get the real ones.

You have a great speaking voice! That's one of your assets besides being a nice human being! Keep Rock'n.

Thanks for the straight forward information 🙏

Thank you! Excellent vid.

Great video. Very informative. Thanks!

Always wanted to know the difference between the two. Thanks for the information.

i don’t know what he’s talking about but i like listening. my ex mechanic didn’t talk like this.. lol

I’m glad you are explaining this

Thanks Raynor for excellent brake down on both units and Chrome for great video.

He talks! : ) (and has nice hands...). Thumbs up, it was a good analysis/comparison...

Thank you so so so much Raynor and Chrome for this! Great info! We are in the process of building our camper truck.

Awesome! Very informative.

Very good video. Have been thinking of this for my van and you made up my mind. I'm going with the Webasto. Thank you for the break down. I was able to see with my own two eyes! Was not aware there was a gas version.

Thank you for the tear-down.

Huge difference... I was almost going to buy the china one. This just changed my mind. Thanks a lot! But.... where is Cruz??

@lostman65

3 жыл бұрын

same here

I have a friend that has a Chinese diesel heater, two actually but neither is in a van. One is in his shed/man cave and the other on his ice fishing shack and they are like loud.

my 2 little dogs want to know where CRUZ is at?? I would rather pay the price [ best one ] up front then have to constantly re-place parts or the whole units all the time wich to me is just a waste of time and money... buy right the first time, and have a pro install the parts.... great video

GOOD INFO THX

Sometimes you gotta just pay ta play I'm interested in the webasto honestly fell for it after he said the mining loaders used the daily an kinda stretched em out ah truck camper with good heat is priceless

Great video, but there is no temp sensor in that controller for the webasto, you will need the 1319842A|9005004B... or else it will use the internal sensor..

I think to add it in my van

Good video great job reiner

Hello Chrome and Cruz along with your family of friends.The Video was very informational and Rayner did a great explaining the process very good. Take Care and be safe and God bless you all. Gloria.

Very informative and fair evaluation. Thanks Chrome!

That's the most we've heard Ray talk in all your vids with him combined lol. Great info!

I had heard in another van build video that there could be a problem covering damage to your van if a problem (fire, etc.) was caused related to the Chinese heater. Something about the lack of certification....might be something to confirm with your insurance before installing a chinese heater. Thank you for that informative video!

@VANCITYVANLIFE

3 жыл бұрын

This is a reason Ray Outfitted will not install the Chinese heater. As a business they have to consider their liability.

@kristinkiel8890

3 жыл бұрын

@@VANCITYVANLIFE Good to know....that’s what I thought. It’s a big investment so I think it’s worth being protected all around.

Good that you choose quality ❤️🤗

WOW excellent 👍

Thanks for showing a side by side comparison. You can really appreciate the difference in quality and size. And to be honest I'm not a fan of Chinese copied products as their quality is always up to scratch.

Thank you both for doing this video... it really was helpful!

Great video. I was wondering what you are going to do about heat. This is a very big price different, specially if one is planning to stay at the warmer climate in US, possible Mexico. One chilly night is not worth spending $1500. Keep up your good work.

Great comparison and explanation on these. Well worth the $$$ difference for peace of mind using the Wobasto

great information..... but lets compare oranges to oranges, and yes Gas is much dangerous then propane.

I needed this video. I'm on a tight budget and have thought about buying the Chinese diesel heater from Amazon. That was why I asked which would be better between the Olympia catalytic wave 3 vs a chinese diesel during a past livestream.

make sure you run them regularly (out of the cold time of the year as well) - min once a month for 30min or so to prevent clogging, i am pleased with my Webasto and also have a coolant heater for cold winter starts.....

This is a very informative video. My experience with other purchases that are made in China has left me very disappointed. So I would not try the heater. Apart from that, I feel a strong need to buy American as a means of rebuilding our own country, economically speaking. So many things made in the USA are so costly that it is good economic sense to buy products from other places. However, buying American enables our own people to flourish and be self sustaining. So, even if it hurts, I'd encourage folks to save, save, save, and buy American, in all things that are made with quality.

Just thinking, skip the propane, start with the chinesium. You can always upgrade later but have the foundation in place for the fuel and exhaust

Ok, swooning over another gear video! I wish other channels did reviews this in-depth. This is archive-for-your-build type stuff! Lots of people do gear “reviews”, but this is a true in-depth comparison. So helpful, Chrome & Ray Outfitters! Thanks!

You made the right choice you get what you paid for

It all boils down to safety. It doesn't hurt to pay the extra funds to protect yourself and others, besides it's your home. A great vid Chrome Man and I like how Raynor explains the difference in great detail. Cheers!

I want the webasto😊

I installed a cinese one hopefully it works

@VANCITYVANLIFE

3 жыл бұрын

Ray Outfitted only hears from people when they need help. You'll see comments of people here who have had success and feel good with their Chinese heater.

If I had that kind of money I'd get the truma combi so I could have heating and hot water together.

Mannnn I got school in 10 mins

@VANCITYVANLIFE

3 жыл бұрын

Don't be late! 😜

Absolutely fantastic content! Amazing effort! I have worked for a Commercial truck dealership for 26 years. I install and service Espar and Webasto heaters often. I've had factory training on both. You made the right choice brother! VERY IMPORTANT...DO THE SEASONAL MAINTENANCE AS PER THE MANUAL AND RUN IT EVERY MONTH WETHER BEING USED OR NOT! Encouragement and love brother! Great job Rayner. I'm a 310s and 310t RSE as well.... btw, we were offering the sub-brand heaters (copy) for a while at the dealership, then stopped because they had nothing but repeat problems. No good for the commercial industry. Complete garbage. No comparison. Waste of money.

Putting a price on your safety is scary!

I drove a transit bus in Mpls the winters were COLD our busses were equipped with Webasto heaters and the bus was damn hot 🔥!!! Webasto all the way

EXCELLENT video. Fair and informative. Very helpful to "see" some of the differences Thanks.

Yes, i say, always follow your gut instinct. If it don't feel right, don't use/do it. Like Chrome says, this is your home, maybe your forever home, take care of it.

Lol. I'll give you $75 USD for that chinese one! Thanks for the comparison though!

Rockin the wave 3, one day a Webasto though! Awesome vid!

Thank you. That was very, very informative for me. Appreciate that.

Been waiting to see this. Always wondered if it was worth it to spend the extra

I guess in this case size doesn't matter

@buragoy020378

3 жыл бұрын

Lol! In this case, it's not the size. It's the performance. 😂

@VancityAdventure

3 жыл бұрын

Operator One that’s what she said?

@jajakilla

3 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAdventure 😂😂😂😂😂😂

I'm interested to see how it works for you this winter... I got a Chinese one from mustachio only because of finances but I'm almost prepared to upgrade...

@VANCITYVANLIFE

3 жыл бұрын

The dry heat is what I'm excited for. Ray Outfitted only hears from people when their heaters stop working and they need help. You'll see in the comments here people very confident in their Chinese heaters.

@bonniecavanaughsvcontent3565

3 жыл бұрын

@CHEFLIFE VANLIFE peace of mind... I think

Watching the video it seems the Webasto has less chance of exhaust leak then the cheaper version. Considering the small space of most vans it would not take much to have a big issue with Carbon Monoxide. If there are ways to reduce this with the cheaper version, then maybe its worth considering. Chrome the only other thing that would have been great to add to the video would have been to actually have the units running so we could hear the noise difference. Thanks Chrome great video.

Hahaha. That mechanic looks like the comic store owner from the Big Bang theory.

I would prefer that when comparing items ‘knock offs’ be used vs. cheap (insert country) to avoid the negative tone towards any specific place. However, the information was interesting.

👍👌😎😁🖐 STAY WEIRD CHROME AND CRUZ. 🤘

QUESTION - OK, so for those of you that purchase these heaters, not so much the cheap Chinese ones but the Webasto ones, are they easy to remove and install into another van when you buy a new vehicle?

@VANCITYVANLIFE

3 жыл бұрын

Ray Outfitted says the heater can be removed and reinstalled. Some components you might replace such as exhaust as layout in new van might differ.

@HuatulcoGuy

3 жыл бұрын

@@VANCITYVANLIFE Good to know. Thanks!

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