I don't know if you realise it, but you are now the official cheap Chinese heater guru! Thank you

@johnmck1147

5 жыл бұрын

I hope I can live up to that statement Martin. JMcK

@nickpritch3152

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnmck1147 Hi john i agree you are the guru ... I have a problem with my 2kw seems to smoke a lot so over fueling i guess would you happen to know. The factory settings or best setting for 2kw heater ive tried two black controller and they both seem to be doing same hope you can shed some light on matter many thanks Nick

@johnmck1147

4 жыл бұрын

Nick Pritch , Hi Nick, I really need more info to be of some help. Did it smoke from new, or did it start smoking later? Is the smoke black or or is it white? Does it smoke just on start up, or all the time? If it smoked from new, you most likely have an install issue. Eg too long a combustion air inlet, too many bends in inlet hose, or restrictions in exhaust. Issues here cause lack of combustion air for a complete burn. If it started smoking later, it is most likely caused by carbon buildup in the glow plug atomising screen or the burner chamber. If only on start up suspect glow plug screen, if always probably carbon in both glow screen and main burner screen. Smoking can also happen with a dirty fuel filter. I hope this is of some help. JMcK

@metricstormtrooper

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnmck1147 you already have done.

@FWCaptain-kv6sm

3 жыл бұрын

Those creatures in the background?

Hey John, Followed you from your beginning. You have become the default source for accurate, detailed information about these heaters! Thanks for your work.

@johnmck1147

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the positive feedback Robert.

Thank you for such a well thought out explanation of the controllers for these heaters. You did a excellent job the explanation of the different ones available. I have at so many different videos of people trying to do what you did I about gave up trying find anyone with any knowledge until I accidentally clicked on yours. I'm so glad I did. Thank you, what a job

Excellent video. I just installed one with the basic LED controller and was having some trouble figuring out the functionality. I can’t thank you enough.

That was very important information about how the heater can overheat and how it won't turn off if the controller fails. I will buy a spare controller and ecu!🙏🤠

If you don't have a spare controller to shutdown the unit with, you can cut fuel by disconnecting the fuel pump. This will trigger a low temp error and start a safe shutdown. But like he showed, don't let it lose power. When the fan stops, it won't cool itself anymore. If the controller fails and things keep running, cut the fuel and let it cool itself down. Great video, thanks for the info!

@gangleweed

Жыл бұрын

I've just bought one of these heaters and a 30 amp power supply but as you "could" get a mains drop out I'm also going to invest in a UPS for A$40+A$23 delivery on EBAY.......belt and braces is my middle name.

He thank us for watching ... The community should be thanking you for such thorough explainstions. Respect.

I am so thankful for the work you put in on these videos.!

Today I got my heater running thanks to you. Yes I cleaned and cooked the tubular thing that goes around the glow plug, and I also found dirt in the air hole. B\ut I also found another problem you might want to look at. The controller (the fancy blue one) had a short circuit in the wires. Pull off the adhesive front cover, remove 4 screws and inside you will see that they stripped the wire 10mm. Over time this exposed wire crossed and would intermittently short out. I cut some heat shrink and used it. Thanks for your help, much appreciated. And now I am warm and dry.

@johnmck1147

3 жыл бұрын

Hi John, Thanks for that information. JMcK

@johnmck1147

3 жыл бұрын

Hi John, Thanks for that information. JMcK

Curious observation with my analogue controller today… Absolutely excellent videos John, best I’ve seen so many thanks. I had a curious observation today with my 5kw which has an analogue controller; last couple of weeks it’s been starting and stopping fine but will not regulate the temperature lower than anything other than flat-out. I’ve had to use it like this out of necessity but it’s not ideal as you can imagine. Today I was armed with some tools to troubleshoot but before I started, I selected a low temp setting and started it up as usual and even after 15 mins the temperature was not going down, the pump ticking like mad as I’ve had lately… so I decided to press and hold the ‘On’ button on the analogue controller. After a few seconds the pump slowed down and all was fine! It starts and runs as normal now, I’ve had it over a year and it’s definitely back to its old self with full control over the temperature. Maybe I have inadvertently done some sort of reset? I’ve powered it up 5 times since with no problems and I’m very happy with it again. I haven’t seen anything on the internet/youtube about heaters that fail to turn the heat down (with no error codes) and neither have I seen anything about holding the ‘On’ button down while it’s running so I hope this helps you and others who may experience this curious fault.

@johnmck1147

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for that feedback Mags. Much appreciated. JMcK

Wonderful explanation of pros and cons of these controllers!

You are a treasure good sir. Thank you for the master class on diesel heaters!!

John, I have now encountered two different plug types with two different controllers. The new Black painted all in one (link to it in your All In One heater video) has a round connector with 3 wires. Its around 3/8" in diameter with a screwing locking collar on it. Wished I could post a picture of it. Ok the Second on is on a Red All In One heater that has a controler that has a single knob. To turn on, press in on the knob and turn to the right. After unit is up and running the heat setting is set by turnning the knob to the right for + heat, turn knob to left for - heating. No temp scale in Celsius just pulse rate. To shut down, press and hold and turn knob to the left till 000 is read. Let off knob and it runs the shut down phase. Now on this heater the controller has a Flat 3 wire connector. Now on visual inspection of both of these heater control units (motherboards) with the same and it looks the same in the pictures you have on your videos and pictures that I found on eBay. And John you are The Guru of the Chinese diesel air heaters. God I would have loved to have you as a shop instructor in high school or middle school. Have a G-day from the USA.

@johnmck1147

4 жыл бұрын

Hi KLH, thanks for the kind words and detailed feedback. JMcK

I have a controller I can’t find instructions for. Can you recommend a forum for Diesel heater questions?

John thanks for making these videos. You give a lot of well presented material. I was looking to see well much the silencers work.and your video on the silencers gave me more information than I was looking for which was great. You pointed out some things I did not know. Again thanks for these awesome videos

@johnmck1147

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback Michael. JMcK

Who needs instructions, we have John!!! A true blessing to the Chinese diesel world.

Great videos i really enjoy them you do a good job of intelligently testing things many of us would like to know. I will be purchacing one of thease heaters for my 4x4 camping vehicle. Question the espar heaters have an option for high altitude kit is there any such thing or adjustment for thease units to run well at high altitude? Also what parts would you reccamend carrying as spares for thease units atomizer screne, glow plug, gaskets of any kind for dissassembly and reassembly? I saw in one of your other videos an intake air screne you were showing does that come with the units or do i buy that seporate? Curious if installed and used properly how often do they get carboned or need repair? Also a video on how we should be controling the unit what pulse rate how to set a thermostat controled temp. Also a video on how to use the diag function on the controlers Thanks for the great vids and info mike

@johnmck1147

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Michael, at this stage I have not seen a high altitude kit for these Chinese diesel heaters. With no adjustment the heaters run rich at high altitude and hence cause more soot build up than normal. You can lessen this soot formation at altitude by using a kerro/ diesel mix. Somewhere between 80:20 to 50:50 mix seems good. As for spares, I would suggest some glow plug screens as spares, and perhaps a spare glow plug, and removal tool, as the glow plugs are easily broken on removal, unless done careful. If installed correctly and with an end of season kerro/diesel short cleaning run these heaters can go for many years without a pulldown for carbon and soot removal. Sadly most heater kits come with a so called intake silencer. These are not an air filter, and are useless as a silencer. You will need to purchase an intake filter separately. I hope this helps a little. JMcK

Hey John, love the detailed vids, very helpful. Just wondering if you can do a factory reset on the digital display control unit? I keep getting error code E-05, overheating issue. My air intake and exhaust pipes are all clear and with minimal bends, heat duct is fine and cool air in the cabin has adequate air flow. The fan works and blows air out fine, not sure what the issue could be?

@1989cranston

3 жыл бұрын

carbon build up from not running the heater on high for a good 30-60mins periodically to burn it off.

I just completed wiring my heater in. It works, thanks for the good advice about the run down time when turning off to prevent the circuit board from melting. There is no mention of this in the "instruction" booklet. You saved me some heartache and lost dollars.

Thank you John, had to work a lot of that out myself before I came across your channel. Your presentation and detail is marvelous and now much enjoy watching all your episodes, well done !

@johnmck1147

2 ай бұрын

Hi Neville, pleased you found the videos helpful. JMcK

best most informative videos on these heaters thanks for the work and the great presentation

@johnmck1147

5 жыл бұрын

Your welcome John. JMcK

@johngalt2508

5 жыл бұрын

@@johnmck1147 I bought my first of these a week ago and have not even test run it yet or done the install at this point i am going to watch all your videos before i decide where i am going to install this one in our trailer. so all the info you present is greatly appreciated

@johnmck1147

5 жыл бұрын

john galt Hi John, A smart idea to always bench test every heater before an install. I hope the install goes well, and the little heater gives you lots of warmth on those cold winter days. JMcK

Thank you so much for the info and tips on these heaters sir :)

Hey Mate. Thanks for the vid. I am just in the process of fitting a 2kw heater and have fitted an isolating switch on the main 12v feed so it was good to hear about the impromptu shut down overheating. I am also running the diesel fuel line inside some clear plastic tubing for both protections and to insulate it from the van and suppress the noise as I had heard that it was a problem. This was then mounted with rubber coated P clips to further enhance the suppression. It is great to share our experience and knowledge to help others. So many tricks and traps in the install and the instructions, which are in varying degrees of chinglish, are at best downright confusing and at worst, not existent. Perhaps non existent would be better as people would be forced to look around for the proper way to install them. lf I was an absolute beginner I wouldn't have had a clue what to do based on the install instructions or lack thereof.

Thank you John for your video

Thank you so much for this mate, I have the controller with the blue circle and it had be stuffed how it worked. Thank you so much I will credit you in my video. I have also subscribed, good to see a fellow Aussie.

@johnmck1147

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback Pokey. JMcK

Thank you for your great presentation! Learning a lot about these! God bless!

@johnmck1147

4 жыл бұрын

Your welcome Allen. JMcK

THANKS for the great info. As a magpie lover I really liked hearing your lot in the background.

@johnmck1147

4 жыл бұрын

Your welcome Daryl. Re the second sentence, the male magpie has been a resident here for over 6 years now, and even if I am away 3 months, he flies down to greet me the day I arrive home. In six breeding cycles, neither he nor his mate has ever attacked me, no matter how close I come to the nest.

@vk3awa

4 жыл бұрын

John McK 47 similar story here re magpies. My breeding pair sit on my knee each morning and have their daily briefing. I’m in Paradise Beach Victoria. On the diesel heater, I am working my way through your videos. I really appreciate your efforts and the great information provided.

@johnmck1147

4 жыл бұрын

Daryl Hooke Thanks Daryl. JMcK

I tried my heater for the first time today and it works great !!

@johnmck1147

3 жыл бұрын

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Beautifull explanation.

If the controller fails just shut the fuel off I enjoy this series of videos on these heaters you are doing keep up the great work!!!

@johnmck1147

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Pat, yes I talked about that method in the description with this video, however in a lot of cases like Caravans and Motorhomes and Trucks, with the fuel lines underneath the vehicles it is not so easy in the mud rain and snow of winter, when these heaters are most used, to get underneath the vehicles and disconnect the fuel. In the rare event this occurred, and there was much mud and rain, I think I would chose the master switch and fan method. Also with this method you do not have to get underneath the vehicle all over again to reconnect the fuel line and do the prime again as well. Anyway, thanks for the positive feedback Pat. JMcK

@belumptuous

5 жыл бұрын

Cut the power to the pump then? Add a cutoff switch to the wire that runs to the pump? Would that trigger the unit to go thru its shut down routine and cool itself down albeit without fuel input?

I feel like I have earned college credit watching these videos! Great information.

@johnmck1147

Жыл бұрын

Well thank you SK55, for your positive comments. JMcK

so much info ...you're the best ..thank you for all your hard work

@johnmck1147

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the positive comments Kelly. JMcK

Another very informative video. Thanks

@johnmck1147

5 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked them Ron. JMcK

Thanks for the prompt reply confirming my thought. Now I just have to find a suitable tap to fit the system.

@johnmck1147

2 жыл бұрын

Motorbike shop, hardware store selling air tools. Those air stopcocks work well and are what I mostly use. JMcK

You never mention voltage issues or error codes, I’m always having issues lol. Thanks for your videos!!!!

Thanks, very useful info

MIND BLOWN AWAY YOU SIR ARE ONE SMART DUDE !!!

@johnmck1147

3 жыл бұрын

Wow Raymond, thank you for those nice comments. JMcK

Very very informative. Thank you.

@johnmck1147

3 жыл бұрын

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Love the bird sounds in the back ground!

@johnmck1147

2 жыл бұрын

One of the positives of living on acreage. The downside is there is a lot of mowing. JMcK

The LCD controller users 0.114 ma (+/-) an hour in standby mode. Over 24 hrs that equates to 2.736 amps. This would drain a 100 ah battery down to 50% in just over 18 days in standby mode based on the fact there is no other parasitic draw from the battery. This is a very good point you raised, thank you John.

@johnmck1147

5 жыл бұрын

Yes Enigma. You would be surprised at the number of people who store their caravan or motorhome under a tarp or carport (solar won't work) and do not realise the constant heater current drain will flatten their battery in pretty short order. If left this way all winter the battery is generally a write off. JMcK

Great as always. Thank you

@johnmck1147

4 жыл бұрын

Your welcome Raphanta. JMcK

More really good information John ,did wonder myself what would happen if controller broke down as it needs fan to blow air through the unit to cool down , good to know that those controllers only work on those heaters with the same control board ,👍 ❤️

@johnmck1147

5 жыл бұрын

Hi John, I am pleased the information is helpful to some people. JMcK

Hi john I have had these heaters for about 6 years( Airtronic and a Chinese one ). I get about 700 hours before they require service . your videos are great help to get the Chinese one going. I have a red controller and remote and they work fine. I get all my parts from Butlertechnic in England for the Airtronic, but not have a supplier for the Chinese one yet.

@johnmck1147

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Peter, thank you for the info and feedback. I get parts for the Chinese heaters mainly from eBay. Cheers. JMcK

Hi John, Thank you for all your info and work that goes into making these video's. I was getting a low voltage warning E-01 and the heater would then shut down. It wasn't the batteries for they were at 13.2v . Come to find out it was the fuse and after changing it the unit worked just fine.

@johnmck1147

2 жыл бұрын

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Very helpful video. I'm installing one of these in my VW Kombi Camper. Unfortunately, it didn't come with any instructions. I love the magpies singing to accompany your lesson.

@johnmck1147

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Jay, thanks for the feedback. I have not done detailed videos on controllers as there are already a number on KZread. A lot of people comment about the birds in the background. I live in a nice rural area. JMcK

We enjoy your bird serenading us. My mate of 18 years is a small macaw named Sam.

@johnmck1147

Жыл бұрын

Hi Frederick, just letting you know all the birds you hear are wild birds. JMcK

@frederick6008

Жыл бұрын

@@johnmck1147 i know, I'm envious!!!!

You are my Chinese diesel heater guru

@johnmck1147

3 ай бұрын

Pleased you found the videos helpful. JMcK

I didn't know about the shutdown. I just got the all in one heater to warm my garage. I was going to use an ATX computer power supply to power the unit and shut it off when not in use. I'll now use a battery with a charger and turn off the battery after the heater turns off. Thanks for the information, you saved an ecu!

@johnmck1147

2 жыл бұрын

Hi CW, pleased the videos were of some benefit. JMcK

@B4TS1

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnmck1147 I watched all the videos and learned a lot about this heater. I fired it up today and it blew out smoke for the first 5 minutes then all is OK. Thanks for the videos, very helpfull when setting these up for the first time. 😊

Brilliant video 10/10

Good info. Thanks for sharing.

@johnmck1147

4 жыл бұрын

Your welcome GT. JMcK

Very good videos John, thank you very much for your effort. I would love to se a video regarding the advanced setting and tweaking the rpm/Hz for optimal performance.

@johnmck1147

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Dessmo, Thanks for your comments and video request, unfortunately I will leave your particular topic request for others to do. My goal with these videos was to try and help the DIY person who would buy a cheap Chinese copy heater on line and install it themselves, without the help or input from a brand name supplier. In fact some brand name suppliers insist on a professional install. I believe the Chinese have done a good job matching fan/rpm settings, and when amateurs start messing here with the password protected control settings they often mess things up. This is an area I will leave for a tinkering enthusiast to play with, and publish a video, should they choose. Sorry. JMcK

you are a gem !! thanks for alllll the info !!!

@johnmck1147

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the positive feedback MH. JMcK

@hanomag1973

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnmck1147 hi John, you are so honest and I love your insight....and it's not commercial !!

@johnmck1147

3 жыл бұрын

M. Hulsman Thanks for that kind feedback. JMcK

I reached out to you last January. I use my heater to heat up my shop and it worked great, which I had mentioned back then to you, if you can recall. Well I have turned it up a notch. I'm using this heater as one of the heat source to heat up a 205L drum full of coolant, that then goes in my floor radiating heat system. I used a 4 inch grinder and made a groove going in a circle around the casing, to be able to insert a 3/8 copper tube tightly wound inside the said groove. Right now, it is running with no pump pushing the coolant inside the 3/8 tube. Instead, I use the science of heat that likes to escape any entrapment and at the same time, it sucks in the cold coolant. It goes in the pipe at around 16c right now but exits at around 48-49c on average. So on top of heating up the ambient air, it also supplies heat for my drum. I also have an used oil burner/wood stove combo, 600watts of solar panels running a 600watt heating element, and also a solar hot water heater on the go. I am assembling everything right now. Your videos were really helpful in how to disassemble these heaters and so on. Thanks for the knowledge you share with us.

@johnmck1147

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Danny, thanks for the feedback. Is it possible for you to send me some photos. I have often been asked to do a video on other applications. If I do so I will give the contributors the credit. My email is - johnmck47@outlook.com Thanks ..JmcK

@danyf3116

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnmck1147 I promise I will once I'm done and running. It will be winter here as it will be summer for you so I have time against me right now. I saw something else last night that gave me an idea. I have an old defective Cooler Master liquid cooling CPU pump and radiator that I kept in case I'd need it one day. It is almost the same dimensions as the air heater end of it. I will make some king of tin or thin sheet metal and make a shroud for it and circulate the coolant through it. Yet another way of taking heat and sending it in my radiant floor.

@johnmck1147

3 жыл бұрын

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Watched all your heater videos now John. Its clear you have passion and experience in teaching, and you do it extremely well. I'll gleefully use all your tips when i install my system. Any tips on multiple air outlets would be handy ! Cheers Si

Thanks John

Thanks John.

Thank you Sir for the good work!

@johnmck1147

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Cristian, hope they were of some benefit to you. JMcK

@cristiana1373

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnmck1147 be sure of that! I have learned a lot from all episodes. Thank you and good luck!

Thank You John. It was not obvious they had a room temperature thermostat. I was afraid maybe the temp set could be the device temp, not the room temp. You gave us the information . Thank you so much !

@johnmck1147

4 жыл бұрын

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@renesolaire8319

4 жыл бұрын

Well, I fact yesterday a guy that actually owns one said : in fact it actually have a problem. Because apparently the thing can go on low heating, according to the room temperature, but it will not regulate using total shut down power on the fire. That means, for a 1000W to 8000W model, if 1000W is too much for the insulated volume you have, you’ll overheat without regulation ! That’s a terrible problem for me. Need to keep one door partly open then ? Do you confirm that ? He has 5kW model with the full electronic controller.

@renesolaire8319

4 жыл бұрын

He say this is for battery energy savings. Because the power on/power off would consume too much, hard to recharge later on a camper. Myself I purchased a 1 to 8 kW model, but my caravan would need only 500 W or less... gonna have a problem apparently. I think about using On/Off function with a thermostat to shut it off. And to avoid the important battery consumption, i think about making the starting resistor plug out if service when powering off. I think this could be achieved using a klixon thermostat on the aluminum fins, not allowing the starting plug to be supplied when the body is already hot. Normally this is a carbon clogging issue, but I gonna use my caravan maybe 3 cold nights a year....

@johnmck1147

4 жыл бұрын

rené solaire Hi Rene, I suspect your heater is the common 5 kw model. I do not think you will have an issue with this heater. On a low setting the heater runs very slow, puts out low heat and uses very little power. If it does get too hot, jut turn it off for a while. JMcK

Amazing!

very informative

Excellent

Hi Reg, Yes you are right, 94 beats a minute works out at 1.56 Hz or pulses a second. 1.6 Hz is the default minimum on these heaters. You get flame out when you go lower. It is not realistic to try and slow the pump rate further. A real 2 KW heater is about 330 mm long, the outlet is about 60 mm in diameter, and the weight about 2.8 kg A 5 KW heater is about 390 mm long, the outlet is about 75 mm diameter, and the weight about 4.2 kg. I hope this helps. JMcK

How do I determine a 2.5-5 kw to a 5kw to an 8kw. I ordered a (what I thought) was a 5 kw and the unit has a 3" opening for heat supply. Can you explain what the difference is between units?

Thanks for the video. A thought, If your controller fails, Disconnect the lead to the pump. This should cause the heater to generate a E-08 or E-04 error but should still allow the heater to power down without overheating. (in theory, not tested)

@johnmck1147

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback Pierre. Yes that is more preferable than turning off the fuel and having the pump run dry. I mentioned in reply to another comment here a suggestion to consider a switch in the pump power line. But it is all about accessibility. A controller failure is very rare and if accessibility to the fuel pump wiring was difficult, like under the van in the mud and rain, I would use the power off method and a portable fan. Also as I have done this before, I am familiar with what happens. Thanks again. JMcK

Hi John - Thanks for your quick response. I’ll keep my fingers crossed and hope one of your subscribers will come up with some answers. In the meantime I’ll try to locate a Celsius to Fahrenheit conversion table. Hope you’re enjoying the sail.

@johnmck1147

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Michael, 22°C to 25°C is a comfortable temperature. 30°C is warm.

@BrianUnAK

4 жыл бұрын

I'm from Alaska, and I believe 17°c to 20°c is comfortable!

THEY already have said it. THANKS.

@johnmck1147

4 жыл бұрын

Your welcome Mr S. JMcK

@snoddyification

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnmck1147 i see excellence runs in the family. i trust all is well. double thanks

Hello John, Thanks for the quick feedback. I have an EXTERNAL temperature device which has functioned on my Webasto heater. An internal switch , wakes up the heater at a set minimum temperature and cut it out at the desired temperature. Could I use this in conection with the simple controller with the rotating knob... ? Maybe am asking too much ? Thank you anyway for your first answer which helped me sorting out the problem.

Hi John, not sure if its been mentioned but you could also disconnect power to the dosing pump for an effective emergency shutdown if needed in the event of a controller failure. Once unit has cooled, one could then disconnect the primary power. Really enjoy your videos!

@johnmck1147

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, in theory it should work, but I have not actually done this. However next time I am bench testing a heater I will test it out. Thanks. JMcK

@gangleweed

Жыл бұрын

@@johnmck1147 If that works by disconnecting the power to the pump as an emergency shut down probably a kill switch in the pump line will work better.

@johnmck1147

Жыл бұрын

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Hi John can i put a switch on the red power wire at the led controller like cut the power wire next to controller and fit a switch to it on my diesel heater, thanks mate you are doing a great job as well , o and can you change the display from herts to temp mate?? or you think it best just to use the herts display

Hi John, thanks for your great videos, the detail you provide is really amazing. I've noticed the leads on the controllers do not seem to be very long. I am thinking that this will limit your options on the placement of the controller and the heater. cheers

Thanks again for another very informative video. I have a suggestion/question. For those of us with Webasto heaters, we sure could use another series on them. Granted, the here will be a lot of overlap, but maintenance and controllers will be very informative. Thanks you.

Thanks for the reply fitted one in mates caravan last week it primes ok but then nothing on pressing start so suspect faulty controller it’s the basic type with dial where as mine is the one that shows functions ,fan spinning ,glow plug pump kicking in ect so have no idea what’s wrong ?

Hi John I have just bought an all in one..the controller has a knob and the LCD panel. (like a hybrid) the instructions only cover the knob only type or the LCD with the buttons. It has the 4 button remote. Any ideas? TIA.

Hello John, I've the black LCD controller the one before the blue one, are basic settings and advanced settings lost when power is disconnected or do they stay in memory, and can they be reset to manufacturer factory settings ?

Nicely done!! Sub’d

Hi John, thanks for your helpful vids. I've had an error code 7 on my remote and now I can't get the remote to work at all? Any advice appreciated 😁

I appear to have the advanced black controller but on a basic motherboard. When I press the settings button, nothing happens except a beep from the controller itself. The pulse rate increases in 0.5hz increments only and cannot be adjusted until the heater is on. The issue now is it reporting E01 and my only conclusion is it is somehow stuck on 24v. Without the settings menu, I have no idea how to change it back to 12v. Any ideas?

Curious; do you know how to initiate the pump/line priming command on the dial/knob style controller?

A point of information about the first controller that you showed. If you turn the unit on and the knob seems to not work and it seems to change settings on its own... Press and hold ON while the unit is on and the fan blades in the knob will change colors... When they are red it seems that the unit basically runs on high and adjusts a bit here and there as needed on its own... I turned it all the way down and things just kept on trucking. However, if you press and hold ON while the unit is on the fan will change from red to blue. When the fan blades are blue it follows the input that you have asked of it. I've not been able to find any of this mentioned in any of the manuals.

@johnmck1147

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that feedback Brett. JMcK

Thank you very much for useful information. I have a question about usage these heaters at high altitude. Can they be programmed or what is needed to use it in mountains about 5000-10000ft?

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4 жыл бұрын

Hi Yuri, You can get an altitude kit for the genuine Eberspacher heater, but to the best of my knowledge there is no altitude compensating kit available for these Chinese copy heaters. However, as a compromise you could try using a high kerro:diesel mix say 80:20 or 90:10 to lessen the effects of running the heater in a reduced oxygen operation. JMcK

Love this series, thank you! Would love if you tried some mods, like moving the electronics out of the heater so they can't get too hot if power is removed. Or if there would be a way to mod a controller to be able to turn LEDs on and off with external switch. Oh, separate question, what are your thoughts on the heaters that have a metal housing instead of plastic? I like the idea as far as durability, but concerned the housing would get to hot.

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5 жыл бұрын

Hi Hoss An uncontrolled shutdown is not a common occurrence, so it would hardly be worth the effort of removing the electronics. It could be done though. I have already done tests on the metal case heaters, (the white heater you see here is aluminum), and like you I initially thought there would be an issue with the metal case getting very hot, as aluminum is a great conductor of heat. But my tests showed this not to be the case. Aluminum heat transfer works both ways, so the incoming air kept the aluminum case cool. My tests showed virtually no difference in actual case temperatures at varying settings. It is really just a personal preference thing what type of case you buy. I was planning a video test, but I am going away sailing shortly for three months. Perhaps I may do one later in the year. JMcK

Wondering LCD controller has to be mounted inside the room being heated? Planning on mounting to heater outside the room under a cover and just plumb the heating pipe inside. Trying to reduce noise plus carbon monoxide risk. Should I wire the LCD controller into the room so the the thermister can control the heat inside the room? Thanks

Does the control unit need to be on the heater? Maybe it can be taken out and setup next to the controller far away from the heater to make it impossible to overheat it.

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3 жыл бұрын

Hi Dan, Possible but difficult. On the ECU is a fan rotation sensor, that would need to be removed from the circuit board and some sort of fine tolerance bracket made. But why bother. With a good install an overheat is extremely remote. Also, in the unlikely event of an issue, an new ECB is only about $20. Cheers. JMcK

do they come with an extended cord? Also my remote stopped working, the light still shows on the remote when I push a button, it just wont sync. It used to work but just stopped.

The problems you had with the white metal cased heater where the wires were mixed up, what you can do is just unsolder the two or three wires and then resolder them in the correct order. That way you can keep the old ECU. Simply reorder the wire

I bought a 5Kw heater and when I tried it the pump ran for about 2 minutes then stopped and never worked again as I get the E4, pump failure come up, even with a new pump. I wondered if this is a control failure in the module as I can hear a click when I try various things but the pump doesn't come on. I tried the pump on another model I have and it works ok with that one, so, now I have a spare. Should I buy another module and see if that solves the problem?

Hi John i have the LCD full function controller. How do you turn on the start time function. I have input a time to start but don't see the Alarm clock display when i am done. The chinglish manual talks about 2 timer groups. this implies 2 start and stop times. I am not getting anywhere setting the time in the first time switch and set the stop time in the second setting.

With the 5 button full function controller, can you change from Celsius to Fahrenheit?

G'day John. I note you say the blue controller on your ipad at 3.15 is the same as the older unit but a different configuration. I have the blue controller but nowhere is there a hole for a thermister to read temp. Do you know how this one is reading temp? Seems strange to me.

Hi John, GT Woodshop has fitted his pump with the outlet facing completely down, is this a good idea? or should I avoid doing this? only I have just purchased one and I am checking it over, the pump was round the wrong way, and there were a few nuts and screws loose, but I have not fired it up yet as I am waiting for the filter to come, I purchased this on the 23rd of Sept 2022. Can you please get back to me with the correct procedure before I test it. atb Ray

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Жыл бұрын

Hi Charlie, The pump should be facing upwards, that is with the outlet at the top. It will work, for a while, with the outlet down but you will soon have serious issues. The pump, by its nature generates tiny cavitation bubbles, and if the pump is facing up these can easily be expelled and track along the fuel line to the burner, and actually help with the atomisation of the diesel in the burner. If pump downwards the tiny bubbles will start to form one big bubble, and eventually this big bubble will prevent proper operation of the pump. JMcK

Hi I have one of the controllers you unplugged at the end of the vid . My question is on start up it only shows 3 dashes where it should show P12v do I have a crook controller? Thanks Jim

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2 жыл бұрын

Hi Jim, if you have the manual controller with the knob, the dashes show the pulse setting, or power setting. All should be ok. JMcK

Pleased you found the videos helpful. JMcK

Hello John first of all thanks for this entire series! Any idea for a contingency plan in case the electrical system switches of and you ain't there/don't notice? Like if a Fuse Bursts?

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4 жыл бұрын

Hi 18S, sorry for the delay. This is a most rare occurrence and one I have never heard of in practice. With a low voltage the heater goes into shut down mode. But it would be good design practice to have the heater mounted in an area with some cooling space and a place where it was impossible to cover the heater with , say clothes in the event it did overheat. JMcK

Bought two heaters neither will even prime the pump. One shows an E07 and reads 0 volts even tho the controller is on. Other reads low voltage permanently from new battery 12v, new batteries 24v or even with charger showing 28v on the display. Swap controllers and no change from the units. Are these boards that bad? Are there certain boards that are better than others?

My pump disengages on startup. The heater works great, but it's very hard to get it to start. Sometimes I can trick it by priming the pump. If the pump would stay engaged it would start every time. Do you know why?

Can you please tell me why i cant set the begin and the end time. I can only set a time begins at 99.59 and that is no starting time. And when i press ok then he is going to set 2.

Thank you for the very useful information for anybody (like myself) who are installing or about to install one of these heaters. So, what is your opinion of the aluminum cased heater anyway? I've been leaning towards one just because of the case.

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5 жыл бұрын

Hi Mr D, This is probably a subject for a future video. In short, I initially thought the aluminum case would absorb excessive heat from the heat exchanger and transfer it to the environment around the heater, causing a hot spot around the heater and a reduction of heat from the outlet. In practice, this was not so. The airflow through the heater was sufficient to keep the case at similar temperatures to the plastic cases, and heat output very similar as well. It all comes down to personal preference. Operationally there is very little difference between an aluminum case heater, and a plastic case heater. Chose one you would find most suitable. JMcK

Question, if when the controller should fail and the heater continues to run at the last setting but without a way to shut it down without damage. Could you stop the fuel supply until the heater cooled then shut it off by disconnecting the electricity whitout damaging the circuit board? Disconnect the fuel pump wire?

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3 жыл бұрын

Hi TB It you disconnect the fuel supply by either disconnecting power to the fuel pump (best way) or shutting off the fuel itself, the heater will go into shutdown mode on its own, and turn itself off. Cheers. JMcK

Awesome videos to watch before buying one of these units. Do you have a preference for a certain controller? There seems to be a few options of the "high end" controller. I've seen the black one you have, and the blue one you showed. Also have seen a red and different styles of black ones. Want to get the better one if there is one

Hi I have just found your channel and shall peruse through it soon. My heater has developed a fault I have the simple controller with the large knob. The heater appears to function fine the pump works and fills the fuel lines and the heater starts to blow, but the air doesn't really get hot and then the heater stops working. The controller doesn't show any of the normal fault codes (1-8) but instead the led on the knob flashes intermittently with the control setting lights on the side. Any ideas what might be the issue here please?