China vs. Germany? Why The Future of The German Auto Industry Will Be Decided in China

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The future of the German auto industry will be decided in China. Win-win or meltdown for German manufacturers - who will win the global duel for dominance in the multi-billion "mobility" business?
Has Germany fallen asleep at the wheel in China?
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  • @obsidianstatue
    @obsidianstatue Жыл бұрын

    Don't blame China for German carmakers' slow transition to electric vehicles

  • @lucisleesion8824

    @lucisleesion8824

    Жыл бұрын

    When DW posts vids about China, you know the content already 🤣🤣🤣

  • @calc1657

    @calc1657

    Жыл бұрын

    The piece didn't blame China. The piece questioned the strategy of German industry and government.

  • @anirudhkapoor1996

    @anirudhkapoor1996

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed. But there's more to it. German manufacturers have lost their way entirely. There was a time they built solid machines, but now I can only see them concentrating on adding technology for the sake of technology, which really just makes things worse - climate controls on a touchscreen being a common example of the same.

  • @Gladiatorking7

    @Gladiatorking7

    Жыл бұрын

    It is a German state media.. expect NATO propaganda only.

  • @allenlau3923

    @allenlau3923

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lucisleesion8824 This video is all about China

  • @tobyli52
    @tobyli52 Жыл бұрын

    DW is so shallow. This is why Germany is falling behind

  • @alexlo7708

    @alexlo7708

    Жыл бұрын

    It is actually German's BBC. They are under Anglo manage.

  • @lucisleesion8824

    @lucisleesion8824

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alexlo7708 Anglo? What does it mean?

  • @rabbitazteca23

    @rabbitazteca23

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lucisleesion8824 anglo meaning under US, UK, and AUS

  • @calc1657

    @calc1657

    Жыл бұрын

    @tobyli52 What was your issue with the piece?

  • @oceanwave4502

    @oceanwave4502

    Жыл бұрын

    With price-cutting strategies of the EV producers right now, from Tesla, to Chinese ones, German cars producers are put at disadvantage. They simply can't produce cars cost-efficiently in Europe due to losing cheap energy source (you-know-from-whom).

  • @silasyuen2996
    @silasyuen2996 Жыл бұрын

    German cars are not fighting against Chinese cars, they’re fighting against EVs, including Tesla. And the fight is not in German manufacturer‘s favor.

  • @alexlo7708

    @alexlo7708

    Жыл бұрын

    They even lose to Tesla in their home country.

  • @SR-pr2xz

    @SR-pr2xz

    Жыл бұрын

    EVs are a red herring. They only shift the hydrocarbon problem, to an environmental problem you don't see as readily. But they still rely on finite resources and create a far bigger environmental problem not to mention running cost e.g. replacing batteries every 5-8yrs. Hydrogen while maybe inefficient to produce now at least had the door open for further technological advancement with an infinite resource

  • @harlentu64

    @harlentu64

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alexlo7708 Tesla No.1

  • @cowubl

    @cowubl

    Жыл бұрын

    German Era is over for ever

  • @Walawala459

    @Walawala459

    9 ай бұрын

    The press media usually bark up the wrong tree.

  • @aburetik4866
    @aburetik4866 Жыл бұрын

    I sold my Porsche and get a BYD U8.

  • @user-ci5vz8yv6u

    @user-ci5vz8yv6u

    Жыл бұрын

    me too

  • @lucisleesion8824

    @lucisleesion8824

    Жыл бұрын

    Is that U8 currently on sale?

  • @johnsmith-cw3wo

    @johnsmith-cw3wo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lucisleesion8824 NO

  • @akltom

    @akltom

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@lucisleesion8824yes,pre-order

  • @lucisleesion8824

    @lucisleesion8824

    Жыл бұрын

    @@akltom I'll never pre-order any items, from video games to cars😅

  • @havencat9337
    @havencat9337 Жыл бұрын

    WHY demonise them? EV + solar = planet saved!!! their GOV was smart to support the future tech and this should be celebrated. I really despise seeing subjective reporting from DW!

  • @havencat9337

    @havencat9337

    Жыл бұрын

    Also i have seen that DW has increasingly subjective and anti-China reporting. This world needs peace

  • @calc1657

    @calc1657

    Жыл бұрын

    China wasn't demonized. DW had simply highlighted issues German industry was facing.

  • @joem0088

    @joem0088

    Жыл бұрын

    DW is gocernment funded. You tell me the rest.

  • @gabrielamponsah2612

    @gabrielamponsah2612

    Жыл бұрын

    I struggled to understand this hatred towards China... The world was okay when German cars were dominating the Chinese market but it is now a problem when China is now leading

  • @calc1657

    @calc1657

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gabrielamponsah2612 The hatred is in your imagination. You didn't understand the video.

  • @passby8070
    @passby8070 Жыл бұрын

    This story made it sounds like without the Germans, China will still be in the stone age. The reality is that China will forge a path forward even if Germany was not there in the first place. Given long enough peace, China will prosper and thrive like so many times in history, this time is no different.

  • @noblephantasmx

    @noblephantasmx

    Жыл бұрын

    Sorry, but this is absolutly not true. China has always been, and always will be, an opportunistic country. The Chinese economy is only so strong because they stole Western technologies and completely dominate the market with their strict access regulations. Without the West, China would not be where they are now. This has been an ongoing process for decades and not just since yesterday.

  • @andreig475

    @andreig475

    Жыл бұрын

    Why china started Only 30 yeras ago?

  • @tpndtbk

    @tpndtbk

    Жыл бұрын

    @@andreig475any nation has up and down period. Look at China 500 years ago

  • @togifashion8737

    @togifashion8737

    Жыл бұрын

    @@andreig475 Because the west gangsters robbered a lot of wealth from China in the past 200 years. You can find the same problem from Afraca, Latin America, India, Mideast, and Southeast asia. But China is lucky, they are too brave and diligent....

  • @markosmataasii2000

    @markosmataasii2000

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tpndtbk Not just 500 years but more than 2000 years ago. Written history itself shows CHINA was always a powerful and leading nation. Since its first unified as one nation way back 221 BC it has become the birthplace of eastern civilization and center of trade.

  • @arunanarina1316
    @arunanarina1316 Жыл бұрын

    Go China🇨🇳💪 From your Brother, Indonesia🇮🇩

  • @user-ci5vz8yv6u

    @user-ci5vz8yv6u

    Жыл бұрын

    thank you

  • @user-hb9jq7wb7l

    @user-hb9jq7wb7l

    Жыл бұрын

    👌🏻好的,我的印度尼西亚朋友!

  • @subasthapa8323

    @subasthapa8323

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks brother 👍

  • @alinux09

    @alinux09

    Жыл бұрын

    This is the Asian century! All Asian nations will be successful

  • @ScoobieDoo-zy1rh

    @ScoobieDoo-zy1rh

    Жыл бұрын

    China will win this out because they control the battery production.

  • @user-st3im5ge7f
    @user-st3im5ge7f Жыл бұрын

    How about Tesla in China. Tesla is biggest competitor with Germany car companies in China.

  • @SeattleFSD

    @SeattleFSD

    Жыл бұрын

    Insane!! 🤯 Just after Elon's reception in China! China ❤ Tesla!!!

  • @user-st3im5ge7f

    @user-st3im5ge7f

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SeattleFSD If USA treating China as biggest enemy , China is USA’s biggest enemy . Elon ,Cook ….USA’s business men are China’s best friends,so they all are enemies against USA government‘s China policy.

  • @carinatao9974

    @carinatao9974

    9 ай бұрын

    Tesla price in China has decreased a lot, which is not regarded as a premium car anymore, and it’s dethroned by BYD. Btw Tesla buy battery from BYD for its fanciest model. It was a smart and bold decision that China gov brought Tesla in 2019 to build gigafactory in Shanghai, which extremely pushed local Chinese EV brands to work&innovate harder to compete.

  • @suheybabdi2070
    @suheybabdi2070 Жыл бұрын

    What a dump take at the end. Any investment in any country for a critical sector you are dealing with that country's government rules and regulations whether you like it or not. Also, why would any country not use their economy to get up in the chain of production and self-reliance.

  • @lagrangewei

    @lagrangewei

    Жыл бұрын

    furthermore this is written in WTO rules, if developing countries are not allowed to develop their industry, no one will join the WTO. this is why you always see US threatening to leave and not China. because US knows its in the WTO rules. and now they are pretending that the rules they setup are "unfair", what a joke.

  • @nanxingluo4902
    @nanxingluo4902 Жыл бұрын

    Germany fears its automotive sector will suffer the same fate of its once booming solar sector and rightfully so.

  • @jasonmugridge

    @jasonmugridge

    Жыл бұрын

    Germany should of watched what happen to the once great British car industry.

  • @aannddrroommaann
    @aannddrroommaann Жыл бұрын

    Such a hawkish documentary. Showing so much army and cannons as though there is an active war going on.

  • @VshapeDino
    @VshapeDino Жыл бұрын

    The topic is on cars and the first thing they show is military. The G7 are masters of economic coercions themselves.

  • @xucg

    @xucg

    Жыл бұрын

    It was the daily flag-raising ceremony in China, as well as the ceremony held to welcome foreign heads of state. In DW's view it was a sign of dictatorship.

  • @user-kb1dw9kg9j

    @user-kb1dw9kg9j

    Жыл бұрын

    its literally in every video about china, doesnt matter which topic it is.

  • @kapamilyatalks5420
    @kapamilyatalks5420 Жыл бұрын

    The fall of Western Autoimakers.. Here in Manila we are excited and more admired of those Chinese EV made vehicles like BYD

  • @MGZetta
    @MGZetta Жыл бұрын

    I think one of the reasons German car manufacturers fleeing to China is the lack of cheap energy from NS1 and NS2. Tbh, It surprised me how ready Germany is to fall.

  • @allenlau3923

    @allenlau3923

    Жыл бұрын

    German even don't care about who did it.

  • @jianyang6281

    @jianyang6281

    Жыл бұрын

    @@allenlau3923 what else they can do if they found it was their master did it. Now they find out it was Ukraine did it....but no one buy the story.

  • @walhdamaskus2408

    @walhdamaskus2408

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@allenlau3923, they are not didnt care who blew the pipeline. They just afraid to much to care, because they knew who did it.

  • @user-lj8kg4jd1l

    @user-lj8kg4jd1l

    Жыл бұрын

    Scholz is the warmonger

  • @kkhalifah1019

    @kkhalifah1019

    10 ай бұрын

    Annalena Baerbock: "LET MY PEOPLE FREEZE, I DON'T CARE!!!" Let them have it.

  • @willengel2458
    @willengel2458 Жыл бұрын

    DW REV totally ignored what makes German products competitive in the world market. Aside from quality of products, it's cheap Russian energy. the destructions of NS1 & NS2 and the Inflation Act changed all that. German funds and manufacturing headed to US and China to survive. German products manufactured in Germany with high priced LNG won't be competitive anytime soon.

  • @alexlo7708

    @alexlo7708

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes , and its household appliance such Bosch electric tools are losing to many US and Japanese brands such Makita , Milwaukee , DeWalt, etc.

  • @randeepsingh9147

    @randeepsingh9147

    Жыл бұрын

    Very intelligent person

  • @lvjinbin28

    @lvjinbin28

    Жыл бұрын

    Germany knows but they have to ignore, or what you expect? investigate USA?

  • @AB-fi5jt

    @AB-fi5jt

    Жыл бұрын

    DW along with many Germany now days think “democracy” will solve all problems

  • @questionmore4675

    @questionmore4675

    Жыл бұрын

    The reports ignore all that , they're now blaming china not been democracy, money business don't care if you're a democracy or not, money is a universal language the businesses understand.

  • @Andrea70swb
    @Andrea70swb Жыл бұрын

    German auto makers are already doomed. And they know it…

  • @bobcharles7716

    @bobcharles7716

    Жыл бұрын

    German [or any] auto makers are doomed the moment they did not embraced EV OR have something that leapfrogs EV!

  • @SeattleFSD

    @SeattleFSD

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed!

  • @Andrea70swb

    @Andrea70swb

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bobcharles7716 they choosed EV only because China choosed this technology. In Europe we did not need EV. But German company made money with Chinese market… they shoot to their own foot.

  • @bobcharles7716

    @bobcharles7716

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Andrea70swb Maybe America don't need EV, but you are fooling your self if you say Europe don't need EV. Europe is not exactly oil rich.

  • @lucisleesion8824

    @lucisleesion8824

    Жыл бұрын

    They know it, then they come up with propaganda to defame China.

  • @rodrigomohr1277
    @rodrigomohr1277 Жыл бұрын

    China is far ahead of Germany!

  • @takuan650

    @takuan650

    Жыл бұрын

    China is already in free fall!! Down the cliff.

  • @ManAssome

    @ManAssome

    Жыл бұрын

    In terms of what, you have to be specific. And they will still catch up and surpass them even in that field too eventually 😂

  • @rodrigomohr1277

    @rodrigomohr1277

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ManAssome EV production, spare parts manufacturing, battery manufacturing. China has far lower energy costs, which makes them way more competitive than Germany. I know since I am a German living in Europe!

  • @ManAssome

    @ManAssome

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rodrigomohr1277 oh sorry I read it wrong..

  • @rodrigomohr1277

    @rodrigomohr1277

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DjSokYchannel That might have been the case in the past, but not anymore!

  • @gunsroses1293
    @gunsroses1293 Жыл бұрын

    The Germans always mistakenly think that it is the Chinese and they learned the car manufacturing technology. This is German narcissism. In fact, China's own development of automobiles began in 1950. In 1958, China began to produce its own brand of "Hongqi" cars.

  • @user-hb9jq7wb7l

    @user-hb9jq7wb7l

    Жыл бұрын

    这是不对的,

  • @tooltalk

    @tooltalk

    Жыл бұрын

    >> In fact, China's own development of automobiles began in 1950

  • @lucisleesion8824

    @lucisleesion8824

    Жыл бұрын

    I heard that story, 1950's hongqi, but I also heard they are just the old Buicks bought from GM.

  • @DR.Don1899

    @DR.Don1899

    Жыл бұрын

    As a native of China, I want to correct you. China's automobile industry has learned a lot from Germany. In 2015, my first car was Volkswagen Magotan. It has been eight years.There is no problem.but it will eventually be eliminated like Nokia's mobile phone. The future belongs to new energy vehicles, just like smart phones replace old-fashioned mobile phones. China is far ahead in new energy vehicles, so my next car should be a China car.

  • @user-gn8nf7fv1t

    @user-gn8nf7fv1t

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DR.Don1899我也是上一辆日产,上个星期我已经定了零跑C11了..真不是一个时代的东西!

  • @johnpersie9328
    @johnpersie9328 Жыл бұрын

    what is Tawian have to do with your automotive supremacy?...why can't DW just do topic without mentioning china treat,Tawian invasion?

  • @lagrangewei

    @lagrangewei

    Жыл бұрын

    DW thinks Taiwan is Ukraine, but actually Taiwan is Crimea...

  • @richardlee3971
    @richardlee3971 Жыл бұрын

    in previous years, german car companies earn tens of billions dollars every year in china, German media said that these companies are too dependent on chinese market, if i can get so much money from others, i would be glad to be dependent on these persons, today, German car OEMs face great challenges due to your own slow movement and now you can it threat, so either way, China is bad per your narrative, interesting...

  • @izumi6704
    @izumi6704 Жыл бұрын

    Growing up, my family had multiple cars from the VW group including VW, Skoda, and Audi. But since my mom had an Accord, the only car we buy now is Japanese.

  • @mnldgbD

    @mnldgbD

    Жыл бұрын

    Japanese are exactly like the Germans, lagging behind in their past success.

  • @davidk.d.7591

    @davidk.d.7591

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@Yee Tian Not for EVs. The Japanese are very late to the Ev market and are losing even more market share than the Germans in China. They're actually in more danger than VW and the others. Koreans are trying tho

  • @lucisleesion8824

    @lucisleesion8824

    Жыл бұрын

    But honestly, the Japanese do not even have a car like VW ID series.

  • @po2002tak

    @po2002tak

    Жыл бұрын

    @Yee Tian EV sales in Europe overtake fuel cars for first time - 05/06/2023

  • @christianli1578

    @christianli1578

    Жыл бұрын

    @Yee Tian but in China ev market would surpass feul car this year

  • @songnianzhang366
    @songnianzhang366 Жыл бұрын

    Dw never drop its arrogance and sense of superior ,as always!

  • @nehcooahnait7827

    @nehcooahnait7827

    Жыл бұрын

    Condescending is the word you are looking for

  • @captives6479

    @captives6479

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nehcooahnait7827 It's Anglo arrogance and their sense of superiority.

  • @yashpatel261

    @yashpatel261

    Жыл бұрын

    White people are going to get humbled in this decade

  • @DR.Don1899

    @DR.Don1899

    Жыл бұрын

    气急败坏and无能狂怒。你得理解,你得享受盎格鲁撒克逊人的这种情绪。未来会越来越多。🤭🤭🤭

  • @user-dc9ew8qv4j
    @user-dc9ew8qv4j Жыл бұрын

    China is 1.4 billion ppl, I belive it is still in the beginning if China gets a bit bigger it will be as big as Jpana S Korea and USA and Germany and France and Britain and Canada and Australia and Netherlands and Italy combined, I achtuly think China is very underrated and it has a bright future just like elon musk said China will be at least 2 times economically bigger than USA or 3 times at most, so let them invest more in Scince and let the competition be more fierce they are very strong and we should challenge them even more.

  • @lagrangewei

    @lagrangewei

    Жыл бұрын

    BRICS is already bigger by GDP than the G7... the G7 really can't change the trajectory of the world anymore, it isn't just "China rising"... the entire world has changed...

  • @markosmataasii2000
    @markosmataasii2000 Жыл бұрын

    Where would German Companies go? India? lol. Indians can even barely fund basic Infrastructures and average purchasing power of Indian is still very minuscule compared to CHINA. Besides, India has its own domestic car companies and they prefer those cheap affordable cars. Southeast asia, same case with India and not that huge market actually vs CHINA. Africa and Latin America? They prefer affordable cars. The future of german companies is very dark. And this goes to blame their govt for blinding the side eye and still following US hegemony despite the fact that US is constantly trying to de industrialize Europe itself. LOL...

  • @davidmoss2576

    @davidmoss2576

    Жыл бұрын

    This comment deserves more Likes!

  • @erenyaeger9407

    @erenyaeger9407

    10 ай бұрын

    You seem to live in age old delusional world

  • @cyborg029.

    @cyborg029.

    3 ай бұрын

    Lol Tesla setting up plants in India, Musk to visit in APRIL keep living in delulu.

  • @Mao11622
    @Mao11622 Жыл бұрын

    It's so odd every piece DW makes about China has to include its military parade.

  • @michaelloong964
    @michaelloong964 Жыл бұрын

    Progress comes from competition just like in sports competition, the winner can be from any country. All the sports participants learn from one and other. Europeans learnt from China in early centuries about metal casting, printing and navigation and paper making. Now China can run faster than Germany , then Germany has to learn from China to compete. Germany cannot afford to stay still not to innovate and improve.

  • @Quancept
    @Quancept Жыл бұрын

    Any Indian watching this, our competition should be with China, not Pakistan. The Chinese have improved leaps and bounds in almost everything even though we both started our journey together as dirt poor nations. We should observe and learn from them. Anyway congrats to the Chinese, you guys deserve this success.

  • @nehcooahnait7827

    @nehcooahnait7827

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes india’s one-sided competition and obessesion with China that China doesn’t even notice.

  • @driver5347

    @driver5347

    Жыл бұрын

    Nice bro. India and China should work together against the US

  • @user-kb1dw9kg9j

    @user-kb1dw9kg9j

    Жыл бұрын

    india should continue competing with pakistan, china is way above india's league. India and China are not compareable

  • @DR.Don1899

    @DR.Don1899

    Жыл бұрын

    China, a friend of India, is totally dismissive of competing with India. There are too many problems in your country, and you don't have any strength to compete with China.

  • @huancheng2099

    @huancheng2099

    Жыл бұрын

    和中国竞争,印度配吗😂

  • @zhurongonmars6256
    @zhurongonmars6256 Жыл бұрын

    German automobile sector will now use DW to say that German is no.1🤣

  • @user-tn7nq9vk8p
    @user-tn7nq9vk8p Жыл бұрын

    لماذا دوماً القناة تحاول شيطنة الصين لم تعد هذة القناة محايدة

  • @doffy2192

    @doffy2192

    Жыл бұрын

    No

  • @loooongtimeago

    @loooongtimeago

    5 ай бұрын

    They never had been neutral , it was the Germans who mastered propaganda 80 years ago after all.

  • @directxxxx71
    @directxxxx71 Жыл бұрын

    Tesla even beats German in their home turf 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @rabbitazteca23

    @rabbitazteca23

    Жыл бұрын

    Ikr HAHAHQ

  • @lwty
    @lwty Жыл бұрын

    If you have competitive product, you will survive the competition. But without the Chinese market, it is impossible to roll out competitive products, especially for EV cars.

  • @user-pp8jb5ko9m
    @user-pp8jb5ko9m Жыл бұрын

    German auto companies have increased their investment in China and have in-depth cooperation with Chinese auto-related companies. Now the biggest decline in sales in China is Japanese cars, not German cars.

  • @nicholasl5247
    @nicholasl5247 Жыл бұрын

    Unbelievable biases and Hypocrisy ; BYD Have struggled in the market More then 20 years ; Nowadays they take the lead by constantly investing and spend more then 20 years in R&D ,and They dare to take the risk to bet on EVS . and finally it paid off . Currently The war ignite right now , Competition is good for customers . We hope all company embrace for Competition .

  • @I_dont_want_an_at
    @I_dont_want_an_at Жыл бұрын

    China uses economic influence as a weapon? Say that about yourself first and we can have a conversation

  • @subasthapa8323
    @subasthapa8323 Жыл бұрын

    So you are blaming the competition, lol.

  • @Intudesia8792
    @Intudesia8792 Жыл бұрын

    Watching DW is like listening to any American news outlet who emphasise mainly one risks and threats without acknowledge their own shortcoming. Just like other countries, Chinese work very hard to improve life and strive to success. If China does things better these is because they have invested and learned a lot from others.

  • @VostockR

    @VostockR

    5 ай бұрын

    dw is manipulation, they want you hate china.

  • @mochen9282
    @mochen9282 Жыл бұрын

    I thought that Germany lost that battle to Japan long time ago.

  • @bobcharles7716

    @bobcharles7716

    Жыл бұрын

    Not in China because the Chinese have a thing about the Japanese something to do with killing 30 million people in China and still don't acknowledge it to this day.

  • @lozkko

    @lozkko

    Жыл бұрын

    Have you seen net profit margins of BMW and Mercedes compared to Japanese carmakers? You must be joking

  • @johnsmith-cw3wo

    @johnsmith-cw3wo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lozkko Tofaş Türk Otomobil Fabrikası have higher net profit margins than Tesla (and all behind Tesla) what's your point ? also Mahindra and Maruti have higher net profit margins than VW... I guess India is SUPERIOR to Germany 💪💪

  • @byhyew

    @byhyew

    Жыл бұрын

    German ICE cars far outcompete Japanese brands in China.

  • @bobcharles7716

    @bobcharles7716

    Жыл бұрын

    @@byhyew true. So did China saved the German auto industry like it saved Buick?

  • @Roman-lv1zt
    @Roman-lv1zt Жыл бұрын

    DW is getting roasted in the comments section 😂😂

  • @OhmUdomvanich
    @OhmUdomvanich Жыл бұрын

    Chinese will not leave Mercedes-Benz behind because BAIC and Geely own almost 20% in Mercedes-Benz

  • @user-ci5vz8yv6u

    @user-ci5vz8yv6u

    Жыл бұрын

    没人在乎 Nobody cares

  • @MrGanbat84
    @MrGanbat84 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you China for making nice car more affordable. here in DW all are double standard and racism

  • @ffgftgfgfgf6434
    @ffgftgfgfgf6434 Жыл бұрын

    auto industry is a game between us and china,nothing to do with german,german is not a player anymore

  • @duolayang
    @duolayang Жыл бұрын

    Mainland China and Taiwan are not neighboring countries. As a serious media, please don't make mistakes on common sense issues. Mainland China and Taiwan are two regions in a state of civil war, and both regions are regions of China.

  • @loooongtimeago

    @loooongtimeago

    5 ай бұрын

    I bet most of the western audience being brainwashed by the media like DW don't know Taiwan's official name is Republic Of China 😂

  • @ecrush5080
    @ecrush5080 Жыл бұрын

    WHY it have to be "VS" ??

  • @johnsvensson6540

    @johnsvensson6540

    Жыл бұрын

    Because click bait

  • @nielseixler7986

    @nielseixler7986

    Жыл бұрын

    @@johnsvensson6540 „&“ might be better?

  • @ecrush5080

    @ecrush5080

    Жыл бұрын

    @@johnsvensson6540 Hmm maybe... but we can see the tittle is changed. :)

  • @hi4806
    @hi4806 Жыл бұрын

    😂😂Germans used to laugh at Tesla and China electric cars.

  • @kimchiba4570
    @kimchiba4570 Жыл бұрын

    The first thing the video shows about China is the military..

  • @humansarecrazybeing5730
    @humansarecrazybeing5730 Жыл бұрын

    DW, this is not colonial period era anymore so stop blaming other non white countries for everything

  • @worldabc428
    @worldabc428 Жыл бұрын

    quite strangely, Germany says its most important martket is a risk...

  • @markdc1145
    @markdc1145 Жыл бұрын

    The flood gates of cheap and high-quality Chinese EVs are opening wide while German auto manufacturers and unions are debating the transition to EV technology. This is looking more and more to be a repeat of what happened to the British auto industry in the 1970s.

  • @mnldgbD
    @mnldgbD Жыл бұрын

    German companies had a long time to start seriously inovate and transition to electric cars, but they preferred to stay ( and some still prefer) to keep on their old polluting and high maintenance cars. Their lack of investment and interest in programming and electronics didn't help at all. I dislike chinese politics but on this one they were right and their companies were amazing in moving forward without excuses

  • @alexlo7708

    @alexlo7708

    Жыл бұрын

    Blaupunkt stereo in Benz or BMW dash is so bad and obsolete.

  • @hkonhelgesen

    @hkonhelgesen

    Жыл бұрын

    VW and BMW made their first electric cars in the 1960s. They started early and moved slowly. Now they go all in. With VW ID-cars, BMW i-cars and Mercedes EQ-cars.

  • @hkonhelgesen

    @hkonhelgesen

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alexlo7708 Becker Mexico retro DAB is nice in all oldtimers.

  • @morbid747

    @morbid747

    Жыл бұрын

    They became complacent after owning a big chunk of the market share. Just like Nokia and Motorola in the 1990's.

  • @DR.Don1899

    @DR.Don1899

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hkonhelgesenI'm sorry, I haven't seen any intelligent vehicle system comparable to China on German Car.Antiques decades ago do not represent modern electric cars.

  • @gouwkimdjoe2522
    @gouwkimdjoe2522 Жыл бұрын

    Yi loong ma is already built new gigafactory in Shanghai 😂

  • @bin.s.s.

    @bin.s.s.

    Жыл бұрын

    We call him 马一龙

  • @HafiZzZzZz

    @HafiZzZzZz

    Жыл бұрын

    President XI should have also invited Yi Long MA when Elon Musk visited shanghai earlier

  • @rabbitazteca23
    @rabbitazteca23 Жыл бұрын

    U blew up ur own Pipelone from Russia thus causing ur car prices to soar.... Who's fault is that?

  • @modfus

    @modfus

    11 ай бұрын

    No, it was Joe Biden who blew up the pipeline. With "friends" like the USA, who needs enemies?

  • @peterrathod
    @peterrathod Жыл бұрын

    Not just Germany, Japan is lagging behind too

  • @ericzong1189
    @ericzong1189 Жыл бұрын

    what is the music used in the video ? anyone knows?

  • @pxidr
    @pxidr Жыл бұрын

    When you know that Mercedes almost do 50% of their sales in China and that Chinese people starts to slowly discard German cars towards their national car makers, that are now almost as well built (or better) than german cars, yeah, German car industry is in deep trouble.

  • @ALWH1314
    @ALWH1314 Жыл бұрын

    The name of the country Taiwan and four other islands is “Republic of China”, and their constitution and map includes mainland China.

  • @dangdaiwu4690
    @dangdaiwu4690 Жыл бұрын

    The United States often says that China has a war risk, which is the means it uses to cope with the competition with China

  • @lagrangewei

    @lagrangewei

    Жыл бұрын

    the irony is US is the greatest war risk to germany... you don't even need to be at war for them to bomb your pipeline and they will even make you shut up about it... xD

  • @themiddlekingdom9121
    @themiddlekingdom91219 ай бұрын

    40 years ago, the German automakers didn't have risky bet at all in China.

  • @ARUchannel1

    @ARUchannel1

    9 ай бұрын

    germany wanted quick cash, but now chinese makers are better

  • @togifashion8737
    @togifashion8737 Жыл бұрын

    I watched the same topic from CNBC, the EV battle between China and USA......

  • @Athrunwong
    @Athrunwong Жыл бұрын

    Don't really care, whomever makes the best products with the best offering price wins the customers.

  • @Antipius
    @Antipius Жыл бұрын

    As a German, I hope German car makers (besides Opel) go under. Terrible, unethical business model. Extensive lobbying and tampering with public opinion.. And completely outdated engineering. It wouldn't be a loss for humanity.

  • @pass3d

    @pass3d

    Жыл бұрын

    不要这样想,汽车工业上下游产业带动了很多就业。如果德国本土汽车制造商营收萎缩,倒闭,你的生活收入也会受影响的。中国现在电动汽车发展非常快,德国人应该加快速度转型,否则就是以后的NOKIA。

  • @FreiesL
    @FreiesL4 ай бұрын

    Nobody Wants Electric Cars here in germany. We Even haven‘t enough power to recharge 😂

  • @Leitalks
    @Leitalks Жыл бұрын

    Germany is doomed one way or another

  • @fengxiaoma
    @fengxiaoma Жыл бұрын

    The biggest threat to German car makers is Tesla, is Elon Musk, who can define the EVs industry now and future...It so sad that you can't realised this fact until today...it also partially explained why German car makers are doomed.

  • @Darkmatter321

    @Darkmatter321

    Жыл бұрын

    Tesla will be old news in a matter of a few years

  • @taiwanstillisntacountry

    @taiwanstillisntacountry

    Жыл бұрын

    And where does Tesla buys its batteries from? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @donkeykong516
    @donkeykong516 Жыл бұрын

    China is in the drivers seat, no pun intended

  • @nelcalb
    @nelcalb Жыл бұрын

    So Germany victimizing itself because the student surpassed the master.

  • @joenewcfd
    @joenewcfd Жыл бұрын

    I think German companies are able to turn more to the States and try to sell more cars there by beating the Japanese companies. There are no risks.

  • @gustavomercado1599

    @gustavomercado1599

    Жыл бұрын

    You didn't account for the Koreans, which are making very decent electric cars

  • @joenewcfd

    @joenewcfd

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gustavomercado1599 I only know German cars are better.

  • @gustavomercado1599

    @gustavomercado1599

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joenewcfd Except that objectively they aren't. The VW ID family of cars have terrible software and German cars are not considered reliable in the states

  • @joenewcfd

    @joenewcfd

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gustavomercado1599 As I know, even VWs are regarded as luxury. German car companies are making and can make a lot of money in Northamerican. People who own German cars are pretty proud.

  • @lvjinbin28

    @lvjinbin28

    Жыл бұрын

    why not Germany hate BYD not Tesla?

  • @jimmylam9846
    @jimmylam9846 Жыл бұрын

    It is just like TBM......they have surged ahead German makers with price ( 50 % cheaper ),quality and services (7/24 live online technical service) beating them in export market hands down.

  • @weird-guy
    @weird-guy Жыл бұрын

    In my country (Europe) German car are still in the top 10 but top 3 are still French brands 😊

  • @lucisleesion8824

    @lucisleesion8824

    Жыл бұрын

    Then I guess you are french

  • @alexlo7708

    @alexlo7708

    Жыл бұрын

    Don't forget there are many German cars hiding behind some European brands such as Skoda and Seat.

  • @chrisbell238

    @chrisbell238

    Жыл бұрын

    Excellent brother... tell you friends not to support the end of your industry with Chinese cars. IF they come to US, people say they will destroy them on street which will mean insurance will no longer cover (happened with kia) and sales will plunge. .... so bring it CCP car

  • @CM73878

    @CM73878

    Жыл бұрын

    French manufacturers have more to fear from China as France produces no premium brands such as Audi, BMW and Mercedes. Their future is in doubt as they scramble for market share at the bottom of the pile. No-one “aspires” to own a French car. They are a commodity. I say this with a huge sense of regret but in future I doubt that the a French manufacturers will be able to compete against Chinese and other Eastern Asian manufacturers such as Vietnam. This will have a devastating effect on jobs in Europe and prosperity.

  • @alexlo7708

    @alexlo7708

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CM73878 French car brands have already sold to Stelantis. So they don't worry.

  • @bgg2249
    @bgg2249 Жыл бұрын

    Are you serious? The future of cars is obviously the trend of electrification, only China and the United States are leading the way, while the traditional Germany and Japan have already lagged behind.

  • @ccei638
    @ccei63811 ай бұрын

    If invest in china is an increasing risky business, why the German manufactures are doubling down on investing in China? DW is talking rubbish.

  • @ibexturbo367
    @ibexturbo367 Жыл бұрын

    Opel will be happy with this fact, but also sad because none will buy them in comparison to the era when even a few people chose Opel cars except majority Opel cars are either Astra or Corsa.

  • @lukeecle117
    @lukeecle117 Жыл бұрын

    Mercedes S class car OS vs NIO ES6 OS => Nokia 1610 vs iPhone 14

  • @cklim3614
    @cklim3614 Жыл бұрын

    Which businss has. No risk?

  • @JEDAM75
    @JEDAM756 ай бұрын

    Maybe Germany should begin by making their internet working and get rid of the so beloved telefax and postal letters😅

  • @koonsiang0345
    @koonsiang0345 Жыл бұрын

    Who are u going to blame for the deindustrialisation strategy that resulted in shutting down of german auto industry?

  • @Fiend1sh3
    @Fiend1sh3 Жыл бұрын

    Go, China! Go!

  • @zolanhlangulela947
    @zolanhlangulela94711 ай бұрын

    German had been sleeping..

  • @johncompassion9054
    @johncompassion9054 Жыл бұрын

    Germany and Europe in general is lagging behind compared to Japan, S. Korea and China when it comes to electronics and software systems. This did not happed yesterday, things are this way for decades and when cars started to include more and more electronics, and tend to rely less on mechanical systems, this problem is starting to get the attention from the general public. Europe needs to invest a lot into this and genuinely do a deep and humble study to figure out 1. Why European/German car electrics fall apart after a few years while Japanese electronics hold up (like super complex Toyota Prius) 2. Why East Asian softwares (car infotainment systems) feel much modern, things are laid out rationally utilising advanced tech while European/German cars' infotainment systems feel like they are still in dark ages. I am not insulting anyone, this is a reality Germany (my childhood hero car country) has to wake up to.

  • @godzillamothra5983
    @godzillamothra5983 Жыл бұрын

    watching this "news", is like watching horse cart manufacturer complaining about ford stealing their tech and replacing them

  • @bobbyfit92
    @bobbyfit92 Жыл бұрын

    Now you want to copy from them but they West hate when China learn from them 😅

  • @captives6479
    @captives6479 Жыл бұрын

    It no longer makes sense to the Chinese to buy expensive German premium EV's from Benz, BMW and Audi. German car industry will only decline.

  • @tvm73836
    @tvm73836 Жыл бұрын

    In Apple we used to mention that “what got you to where you are is not enough to keep you there”. This applies to German car companies too. The arrogance and hubris has brought them to this point, not China. Apparently India is one market they could dominate but they have their head way up their a… and are likely to miss that one too.

  • @modfus
    @modfus11 ай бұрын

    In future, these German brands will either go out of business or be owned by China. I can see the day coming when Mercedes is a Chinese-owned brand (like Volvo and MG)

  • @arturperrellaglukhovskyy9888
    @arturperrellaglukhovskyy988811 ай бұрын

    When I heard "French carmakers as Stellantis", I thought about how much Italy is disappearing from the industrial scene. Does the world really think that Stellantis is only French if it was created by an Italo-American AND French group? 🤔

  • @malalachernobyl5594
    @malalachernobyl5594 Жыл бұрын

    Chinese EV cars are cheaper and better now.

  • @oussamarahhab1128
    @oussamarahhab1128 Жыл бұрын

    I will buy a chinese EV in the near future and encourage everyone in my surroundings to do the same. German cars are getting lame by the minute !

  • @johnfrancis4401
    @johnfrancis4401 Жыл бұрын

    It’s too late. VW, BMW and Daimler are going bust.

  • @crishhari5903
    @crishhari5903 Жыл бұрын

    More videos like this and I am sure Germany will lose even more market share to the domestic and American car makers. There is truth in the video but the tone is full of arrogance.

  • @bandwsf
    @bandwsf Жыл бұрын

    EV is a disrupter. Everyone has to adjust to it. The process is going to be painful.

  • @jslchan9734
    @jslchan9734 Жыл бұрын

    What kind of journalism is this? Contrast German cars with Chinese military parade. This is so low.

  • @hectorcardenas2171
    @hectorcardenas2171Ай бұрын

    Oh shit! China became innovative, something I thought would NOT happen. 😮

  • @lincolnteh267
    @lincolnteh26719 күн бұрын

    Don't believe analysts who have never run even a small business.

  • @nicktan8600
    @nicktan8600 Жыл бұрын

    Just compete. All will have their own share.

  • @tomo1168
    @tomo1168 Жыл бұрын

    german car makers already lost the biggest market. now they hve to fight for their own market - europe - against the chinese. or let the eu set high tarifs. and we didn't even mentioned tesla.

  • @nicks.2627
    @nicks.2627 Жыл бұрын

    German car lack of karaoke app? Seriously baseless and subjective imagination. Even the German documentary tries to ignore the key problem. The German EV cars have the lowest battery density compared to the others and lack connectivity thinking. They are still hoping consumer buy their cars because of their brand, but VW can't even compete with Tesla. neither the quality nor the user experience.

  • @joem0088
    @joem00889 ай бұрын

    If China was making bets on electric car over a decade ago, you should ask what is China betting on today which will pay off in 2040.

  • @questionmore4675
    @questionmore4675 Жыл бұрын

    Don't GO to china if you want talk about democracy , not every country most practice democracy and why bring Taiwan issues Into auto businesses?

  • @lozkko

    @lozkko

    Жыл бұрын

    Your comment is a non sequitur (true statement from which it doesn't follow a logical conclusion). Regardless of what one takes on democracy is, Taiwan produces the majority of semiconductors. With Covid, there were chip shortages everywhere, and you couldn't get lots of goods, with massive waiting lists. Cars need lots of chips. How can you not think about Taiwan if you are in the business of making cars😂😂😂

  • @questionmore4675

    @questionmore4675

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lozkko they're talking about china aggressiveness towards Taiwan this is not business

  • @lozkko

    @lozkko

    Жыл бұрын

    @@questionmore4675 you are a company making cars. Let's suppose China invades Taiwan. Let's suppose you don't care as a country, and want to remain neutral. You still care about semiconductors. Taiwan's production of chips is disrupted, down say 70% and the Chinese obviously redirect the chips to local production. You should care for this reason, even if you don't give a fig 🤦🤦

  • @user-ci5vz8yv6u

    @user-ci5vz8yv6u

    Жыл бұрын

    你根本就不懂什么是民主,中国人的民主 You don't even understand what democracy is, Chinese democracyn

  • @josephkibeera2416

    @josephkibeera2416

    Жыл бұрын

    China's meritocracy vs western democracy , it's seems China's political model is more efficient because only the best talented people can be in political leadership

  • @peterrathod
    @peterrathod Жыл бұрын

    What a sour grape man. Are you telling me that China is not allowed to be better than Germany for making cars? Come on man, Germany had made trillion dollars of profit from China by car sales, and China is smart enough to learn your car making technology and evolved. So, fair deal to me

  • @Voxabonable
    @Voxabonable Жыл бұрын

    It's no like someone's pointing a gun at you to go to China. It's no like anyone over there will stop you from leaving either.

  • @mjwalkabout8737
    @mjwalkabout8737 Жыл бұрын

    Crying babies! There are no excuses for incompetents

  • @hartoz

    @hartoz

    Жыл бұрын

    There's no excuse for bad spelling either. But then again you are in China ;-)

  • @jasonmugridge

    @jasonmugridge

    Жыл бұрын

    Complacency

  • @mjwalkabout8737

    @mjwalkabout8737

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hartozSure & Noted!

  • @directxxxx71

    @directxxxx71

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@hartoz his second language skill might be better yours

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