I wonder if there will be a similar price drop for the upcoming Equinox EV

@TheRealLaughingGravy

3 ай бұрын

The Equinox EV was supposed to come out last year, but was paused. I just want to see it available. I hope they don't kill it.

@gmv0553

3 ай бұрын

​@@TheRealLaughingGravythey are arriving at dealerships as we speak.

@claudiag.2055

2 ай бұрын

@@gmv0553 not the Equinox EV, just the Blazer EV :)

I think GM should get some respect for proactively and voluntarily fixing problems (that maybe shouldn't have been problems in the first place).

@jamespaul2587

3 ай бұрын

If they were proactive and tested the vehicles thoroughly the problems wouldn't have happened

@davidrandall2742

3 ай бұрын

@@jamespaul2587-- No argument there.

@shashankdegloorkar

3 ай бұрын

@@jamespaul2587 Some issues cannot be identified unless the product is mass produced. 1/1 item do not have any defects. When you manufacture and beta test the product we see the issues.

I bought 1 last week and sold my Ford Mavrick hybrid..23 with too many problems…..new discount and $7500 rebate, and S2200 more discount from dealer which brought it down to $44500 RS AWD …Best deal in EV right now

Price cut was needed as I would purchase the Cadillac at that price point. I’m interested in your freshly baked scones. I fear I may not make it while they are hot. I need to charge my Bolt and it’s a bit slow.

@davidmenasco5743

3 ай бұрын

Lyriq does seem to be the better value.

If and when the GM has an adaptor for the NACS, then I may investigate.

Thanks for thew concise update.

Thank you for these podcasts. I really appreciate the great information and content that you provide!

They haven't updated their website with these new pices. I just built an RS awd on their site, and it listed $60,215 before the credit. One would think they would adjust the website along with the release of the news. But, hey....a manufacturer's website isn't typically their strong suit. Mercedes has vehicles on their lots for purchase, yet you still can't build them on their site. You would think it would be though since the vast majority of people go their first.

I'm interested in an affordable EV SUV but every time one is announced I go and compare it to the "gold standard" Tesla Model Y. Today the Model Y is $36,490 with 260 mile range and $41,490 with 310 mile range. So, I'm not feeling compelled to buy an experimental Blazer. The discontinued Chevy Bolt EUV though, that was a good deal and a good car.

I might buy a used one in 3 years for about $25k if they can find enough crazy people to buy them new.

Why is the all wheel drive less than front and rear drive ?

The price cuts make sense in light of their disastrous start. I'm planning on waiting for the Ioniq 5 refresh as the stop sale spooked me. The Equinox EV could temp me at the right price point if it doesn't land on it's face like the Blazer EV. I'm rooting for GM but I've been following things too closely to have confidence in them.

@rcpmac

3 ай бұрын

disastrous is a bit of a biased overstatement. As Francie said at the opening, problems like this especially with new technology are not that uncommon. The problem is people love to trash the big 3 and see only golden turds being excreted at tesla.

@sparkysho-ze7nm

3 ай бұрын

………… ain’t that soooooo sad but true

@natehill8069

3 ай бұрын

I have a Bolt but am (obviously) disappointed in the low charging speed and wished for AWD (ie dual motor) and was floating the idea internally of "upgrading" to the Equinox EV to improve on those things. The space and features are about the same, the charging is 3x faster (which still puts it well below Hyundai or Tesla) but the second motor in the Eq is a joke, basically a golf cart motor and nowhere near enough power for the $$$$. Have to wait for the next round of "new platform!" to see if they get it right finally.

much better pricing. love these tiny podcast episodes

Thank You Francie.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste 🙏🏻 😊 🌈 ✌ ☮ ❤

I'm sure this will again be as beloved as the Hornet.

Initial pricing was nuts.

Prizes are weird. Doesn't RWD stand for rear wheel drive and AWD for all wheel drive? Why is the RWD more expensive than the AWD?

@RPRosen-ki2fk

3 ай бұрын

Yes, I was puzzled by that too?

@Cyrribrae

3 ай бұрын

Maybe a range thing? Have we range anxiety-d the market so hard that RWD is preferable for the sake of a handful of miles? (probably not)

@RPRosen-ki2fk

3 ай бұрын

@@Cyrribrae You are correct. I read another comment that said the RWD has a much larger battery, hence the price discrepancy.

An email just went out, apparently Chevrolet is going to refund existing customers the price difference.

The prices with tax credit are a bit higher Francie, as the credit is $7,500 including taxes. Hopefully dealer markups aren't outrageous like we've seen on other limited production vehicles

What a great episode, Francie. Lemon and blueberry scones sound delicious.

If these prices had been delivered on time, we would probably be driving one of these instead of a Y... my wife liked this one so much more than the look of the Y at the time.

Excellent information. I suggest combining a few topics into one podcast to keep them at least 30 minutes long.

@jamespaul2587

3 ай бұрын

Many people prefer shorter and more concise videos on a specific topic

SS not available until next year. No SS pricing available either.

The problem now is what will the used market look like in a year or so, will they drop like a rock like other EV's?

@xaionik

3 ай бұрын

Depends on how far Tesla will drop prices. The massive depreciation is due to their price shenanigans on new vehicles that force the others to meet them where they are.

@jamespaul2587

3 ай бұрын

Yes, EVs are improving rapidly and competition is increasing, these will fall in value by a large amount over the next few years

@Cyrribrae

3 ай бұрын

​@@jamespaul2587yea, there's really no way depreciation won't be hitting these. But that's because all autos are experiencing higher depreciation and because EVs are changing and improving rapidly. It's unfortunate, but not inherently a problem. I'd much rather depreciation happen (and allow more people to buy in used) than for the innovation to stagnate.

@jamespaul2587

3 ай бұрын

@Cyrribrae good points, and I expect these vehicles will have higher depreciation than many other EVs that have better design and engineering. Problems with early vehicles suggest there will be many issues after long-term use before most vehicles arrive on the used market. GM's strategy of launching only higher priced trims initially will also increase depreciation.

I don't thinking a recovery is needed as the volume of sales is small.

It's nice, very nice vehicle, just not nice enough. I sat in a fully loaded Blazer EV RS, and have to say that 15k more for a fully loaded Lyric is a bargain. I should not compare the two, but these are the only two GM offerings available and it's not even close.

Blueberry/Lemon...Yikes! Trying to imagine that taste combo. LUV Scones and the overall design of the Blazer, but the Equinox price point has my focus. Due to the mild winter in our area, the Blueberries should be fat and juicy. I always put up about 4-gallons a season. Did you say FWD for the Blazer? One of the features that is attractive to me about the Blazer is that it was going to be RWD and AWD whereas the Equinox was going to be FWD. I much prefer RWD to FWD, so a consideration to factor.

@jamespaul2587

3 ай бұрын

Blueberry Lemon is a delicious combo, you shoild try it 😊

Chevy lost my interest when they stopped offering CarPlay & Android Auto. Honda offers them in the Prologue, their version of the Blazer.

@_cjmccullough

3 ай бұрын

They still have Apple CarPlay it’s just a future thing that they won’t support it so for now it’s still shipping with both

@AutoReport1

3 ай бұрын

Get used to it, Android Auto and Apple car play are dead, some companies are just further behind in dropping them.

@ai4px

3 ай бұрын

@@AutoReport1why would car play be dead? Handiest thing ever with a rental car for me.

@AutoReport1

3 ай бұрын

@@ai4px do rental companies think so? Can you even specify that your rental has car play? Having the relevant apps natively install in your car once you log in gives more reliable and faster service. It syncs automatically and there's still an app to connect your phone for calls and music, it just doesn't run off your phone. What apps on your phone that you'd use in the car won't be installed there? For actual car buyers, it works fine and they won't lose anything.

@ai4px

3 ай бұрын

@@AutoReport1 no i can't.... and I'm sure car companies don't want car play because that means they can rent me a GPS. I just can't say how handy it was arriving in Quebec and hitting the ground with navi on my phone via car play.

When are you guys going to review the Chevrolet blazer ev we've been waiting

Hello Francie

Blazers were advertised for the base model at $32-34k. Maybe inflation over 4 months has brought the price up over $10k.

@Dive-Bar-Casanova

3 ай бұрын

I believe that lower cost model was dropped some time ago.

@jamespaul2587

3 ай бұрын

More lies from GM about production volume and prices

I don't see the Blazer selling well, that's my prediction.

I hope they stopped using pouch cells.

@wineberryred

3 ай бұрын

Keep hoping.

Thos prices make no sense to me. Why is the RS trim cheaper with AWD then with only RWD? 🤔

@sandshark5584

3 ай бұрын

RWD has a bigger battery

@rcpmac

3 ай бұрын

@@sandshark5584 OH, That makes sense. I guess batteries are more expensive than motors?

@sandshark5584

3 ай бұрын

@@rcpmac definitely more expensive. The RWD is almost a 20kwh battery difference bigger.

@davidmenasco5743

3 ай бұрын

​​@@rcpmacYes, this is one of the key reasons why automakers are so addicted to "premium" EV models. The cost difference between a slow 9 second motor and a fast 4 second motor is pretty small. So they put in the fast motor and call it a "premium" car to justify the high price. It's the only way they can cover - or almost cover - the cost of the battery. Since the real cost is in the battery, they can't do the reverse - they can't just put in a slower motor and sell the car for cheap. The only way to make the car cheap is to massively cut back the range, which would be hard to sell. There is an alternative, which the Chinese and Tesla have both figured out. This is to take EVs very seriously, start from a blank slate, and scrape together every little bit of range and efficiency you possibly can during the design and engineering stages. Unfortunately, the legacy OEMs have a corporate structure that does not allow for this approach.

Enjoy your scones. They sound yummy.

Yum scones

Seems weird that the RS AWD costs less than the RS RWD? But it doesn't matter, even if GM paid me, I wouldn't want one of these.

@TreDeuce-qw3kv

3 ай бұрын

BS! Free & PAID You would be allover it. in your dreams.

@gmv0553

3 ай бұрын

Then why comment!

@jamespaul2587

3 ай бұрын

I think the chart mixed up RWD and AWD pricing

@michaelkim3432

3 ай бұрын

@@jamespaul2587 I read elsewhere that the RWD is actually priced higher due to forced option packages.

@jamespaul2587

3 ай бұрын

@michaelkim3432 interesting, someone mentioned the battery might be larger also

IMO, if they want everyone to transition to EV‘s, I feel like all EV should get a tax credit. Doesn’t matter where the batteries are source from. We get everything else from China so with exception of the batteries I mean to me it doesn’t make sense EV’s need to be more accessible to more people. I mean the prices of EV’s in the United States is almost ridiculous. I mean I get first starting off. You have start off with a higher EV before you get to the masses but even then 48,000 $40,000 for a vehicle is just still too expensive for most people. So I would love for China to bring their vehicles over to the US. Yes, I know they were slap a big teariff but it still would be cheaper than the EV‘s in the US.

I don’t trust ANY media or car magazines far as I can throw em …….. paid off advertising profits

Rivians future blazer sized suv is going to be so much cheaper. Wonder if consumer reports will try it again. They trashed this car

@e-redj

3 ай бұрын

In 3 years time? Sure the prices of the other cars won’t change in that period of time. 🤦‍♂️

@manitobasky

3 ай бұрын

R1S is closer in size with Blazer EV, R2 is Equinox EV size.

@Andre-cj3ec

3 ай бұрын

Consumer Reports purchased their Blazer EV for long term testing. I'm sure they'll have an update

So if the customer had low expectations, they wouldn’t have taken it off the market?? Lmao.

Video killed the radio Star Chevy killed the affordable EV

Can't anyone say "lessons" anymore?

Chevy had to drop the price because Model Y is absolutely mopping up the market with their price cuts. Ford dropped their prices to compete against Tesla and clear out inventory. The lower prices are working for Ford with lots of new Mach-Es being sold.

@sparkysho-ze7nm

3 ай бұрын

Great news ty

@TreDeuce-qw3kv

3 ай бұрын

It is going to be very hard for the Legacy MFG's to compete with Tesla with Tesla committing lower MFG cost updates to price point savings given to the customer on an ongoing basis as initiated.

Chevy's push to bake in paywall for basic features is what crippled them. Honda is more honest, so their vehicle is what you pay for, which is why they're not experiencing system crashes like GM.

The Chevy Blazer EV is made in Mexico which is basically opening the door for Chinese vehicle manufacturers to open up shop in Mexico which is going to kill the US auto industry.

@davidmenasco5743

3 ай бұрын

Mach-e has been made in Mexico for years. And many other cars before that. What opened up the door for the Chinese is when GM took the world's best EV development program and threw it in the trash compactor 20 years ago.

@TreDeuce-qw3kv

3 ай бұрын

Still pissed about that. And then they crushed the EV1's. Insult to injury, but it is a new day now. At least I got to see one up close at a beach near Carpenteria, Ca. @@davidmenasco5743

Not interested at anything near that price point

@DubEther

3 ай бұрын

Then don't buy one. FYI - The average new car transaction price at the end of 2023 was $48,334.

@robertharman4938

3 ай бұрын

@@DubEther I went Hyundai. fewer issues this year and cheaper.

@rcpmac

3 ай бұрын

If you want a deal there are still bolts available at $19K++ including the incentive. Friends of mine are 100% happy with them.

@robertharman4938

3 ай бұрын

@@rcpmac. 50kWh charging max? No thank you. Hyundai egmp cars are able to peak at 240kWh. GM is way behind the curve

Some of these EV’s are just pathetic. They are twisting themselves in knots to get the price of a 250 mile range small SUV down to $50k. Battery tech needs to improve from a cost and performance standpoint. Lots of conventional options you could throw that kind of money at and get better value, not counting the burden on taxpayers in paying for the tax credits.

Don't care for the looks.

I cancelled my deposit last summer with my local GM dealer well before the stop sale notice. I was contacted last week again by GM ... no, I'm not interested ... whatsoever. Ummm, wasn't GM confident during the initial release? Of course they were so restating this after the software fix is meaningless. I'm not their guinea pig.

@rcpmac

3 ай бұрын

At Tesla, they are currently accepting guinea pig applications so go there.

@jeffs6090

3 ай бұрын

Really, the vast majority of EVs requires you to be a guinea pig.

Ultium is a dumpster fire. I would advise everybody to stay away from them. You’ll be at the dealership every week

Why would anyone trust GM and spend money on this thing?

You talked almost 12 minutes and did not say anything. Stop repeating yourself. Dreadful waste of my time,

Poorly written and poorly delivered.

Car of the year? Hahaha 😂

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