The last episode is considerably easier to watch. And satisfying too, in that it provides a lot of explanation into what happened. It’s not a happy episode. None of them are. But you’re over the worst of it. Kinda…

@LIPPSMACKER

Жыл бұрын

😫😫 the devastating domino effects of this disaster cut so deep

The exclusion zone does not exclude people from leaving, it excludes non-authorized personnel from entering.

@LIPPSMACKER

Жыл бұрын

Ooooo ok! Thank you!

I am Ukrainian. Chernobyl is only 400 kilometers away from me. So I can tell you a lot about it. Specifically in this episode, there are a couple of curious moments for me. First: an old lady with a cow. It is significant that she does not want to leave. The twentieth century was full of horrors and she saw them all with her own eyes. She is not afraid of death. She's waiting for her. Perhaps this is due to religion, since Ukrainians are one of the most religious nations in Europe. After all, Christianity tells us that it is better in paradise than in this world. Second: Bacho's character. Again, it is very revealing if you know the context. He is a veteran of the Afghan War. Afghanistan for the USSR is the same as Vietnam for the United States. After that war, many people who know how to kill appeared in the USSR. This means that organized crime has appeared. Yes, the "Russian mafia" about which Hollywood made so many films in the 90s. In this regard, the dialogue of this trio is very revealing. "The happiness of all mankind" is a typical communist slogan. And it is well understood that people in the USSR no longer believed in ideology. And if you do not believe, you are concerned only with your financial situation, then you have a direct road to bandits. And the third: cleaning the roof. It would seem that it could be easier. Clear the roof of debris. But one thing: this garbage will kill you in 3 minutes. There is no Superman. Tony Stark is not there either. This shows that we are no longer Neanderthals in terms of technology, but we are also far from colonizing other planets. We have something to strive for. P.S. Ludmila's child died of a heart defect. The idea that the child absorbed the radiation and saved the mother, from a scientific point of view, is not provable. Although this does not make it easier for the mother.

I watched the whole series. This episode made me cry so much

@LIPPSMACKER

Жыл бұрын

I know it hurts when my body shakes and no sounds come out 😭😭😭 this one hurt

Oh, you missed the sweetest moment of this whole ordeal. Valery smiling, and Boris hugging him. They are now brothers.

The raw emotion you show breaks me… you deserve that everyone that watches this follow you. Press pushed the subscribe button

@LIPPSMACKER

Жыл бұрын

Ducktape, that is so kind of you to say! 💜💜

Tears up at the cow scene.....heh heh....you ain't seen nothing yet!

@LIPPSMACKER

Жыл бұрын

I was so in over my head with this episode!

The first time I went hunting for my own food it broke me emotionally. Then as a beekeeper the very first time I ever had to euthanize a colony it also broke me. But cats and dogs? I don't think I could. Don't forget to watch lots more happy movies like you did with Airplane, lots of great happy animated movies like Wall-E and Kung-Fu Panda too. Just to counteract all the sad emotions, good for mental health.

It was a nightmare....but thanks to so many heroes , it could have been MUCH MUCH worse...as hard as it is to fathom...

@LIPPSMACKER

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely true. This show does a great job showing the heroes and the ways they showed up to help

“The line between good and evil runs not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either - but right through every human heart.”

Just FYI: In a book I'm reading about radioactive accidents, it says that before Chernobyl, there were other less-known accidents from which people had to be evacuated. The Soviet government removed the people, and sent in soldiers to shoot livestock and pets so the inhabitants would not have a reason to return. The book is titled "Meltdown."

The Exclusion Zone is 1,000 square kilometers where humans are not allowed to live until the radiation reaches safe levels--in 25,000 years.

13:47 It buys them 90 seconds on the most dangerous place on earth. It's not useless but you're blocking an acid spray with a sieve here.

The baby absorbing radiation instead of the mother is not scientifically accurate, but it is historically accurate. People used to believe that.

West Germany was seen as enemy territory. A symbol of the west. The robot was hard enough to ask for. To tell the truth was unimaginable to the Soviet government.

Some of the details are pretty good. Things like the "stay behind the plastic" at the hospital actually has nothing to do with protection from Radiation. It's actually to protect the contaminated person from germs carried by visitors as the contaminated person is likely to have a severely compromised immune system and the last thing they need is some infection. They say about the "Tips" of the control Rods. It's actually about an equal length. Fortunately this system with it's positive voide characteristic isn't used in Western Reactors.

Oh boy...episode 4...this is pretty much the toughest episode to watch for almost everyone...but it is good that you made it through it. Something that does not often get mentioned is that many of the men who went out onto those incredibly radioactive roof sections actually volunteered to go back out more than once in order to save others from having to be "biorobots". Also, that huge revelation that the Soviet State knew about the fatal flaw in the shutdown system and both covered it up and did nothing to fix it, all the while lying to even the plant operators about the safety of the RBMK reactors, is something that could only happen in a totalitarian state like the USSR...where there is no free press or free scientific establishment for whistleblowers to talk to when they know about wrongdoing by the State.✌

@LIPPSMACKER

Жыл бұрын

This one hurt my heart

@iKvetch558

Жыл бұрын

@@LIPPSMACKER You are not alone...it is a heart wrenching episode on so many levels, and it hits you hard right at the start and really just does not stop. I promise the last episode is not as emotional. ✌

@joehoy9242

Жыл бұрын

In fairness, what you say about cutting corners in terms of safety only being possible in totalitarian regimes isn't true. Plenty of times it's happened in the West and would-be whistleblowers were ignored, blacklisted by their industries, and people died. Look up a guy called John Liotine for one example.

@iKvetch558

Жыл бұрын

I was not talking about cutting corners...I was talking about fatal flaws to critical safety systems on reactors that are themselves fatally unsafe. Not sure which Joe Liotine you refer to...but it looks like that is typical corporate malfeasance that does not have the ability to impact the lives of tens of millions of people like Chernobyl did and continues to. And not for nothing, but the fact that you have read about him may well support my case. ✌

@LIPPSMACKER

Жыл бұрын

@@joehoy9242 that’s valid. There’s power in appearing perfect and that clouds judgements often. Especially heightened politically

The reward for getting through this episode is the finale to come. Nothing about Chernobyl is “good” but the series rounds off the story well. I must say I find it fascinating to watch with someone of a generation that never experienced the old Soviet bloc and the secrecy that came with it. When you hear they lied to the Germans, this was the East Germans of course supposedly behind the same Iron Curtain yet still they didn’t share the true situation. There’s a pertinent quote in the next episode about this. No Internet. No free press. The suppression was incredible. You may think the likes of Putin are bad - and they are - but it’s so much harder for them to keep information locked away despite his best efforts. Not a criticism of you at all by the way, I just find it interesting to see a different generation witness what those of us alive at the time lived for real. I distinctly remember the warnings we had at school about spending time outside - and this was in the UK ! Enjoy the finale.

Glad you are enjoying the series! I have family that was nearby when this event occurred and am glad they are around today. Lots of people weren't as lucky.

Lyudmilla's child died due to her exposure to radiation from her time in Chernobyl after the accident and before leaving for moscow... so the delay they did in the evacuation process had an effect on the life/health of the people.. this is one story that we know of..

I'm glad you kept Bacho's dialogue about killing a man to the kid because I always saw it as being very impactful... especially with Boris' later speech about self preservation when presented with a threat. I think it just shows how in a you vs them situation, nature is made so that you pick yourself. Living with the consequences is something else but that you're capable, you most certainly are, it's part of who we are as living beings.

Yes, Ludmilla and Vasily and their baby are entirely real.

Yeah. There are still stray dogs in Chernobyl and Pripyat

6:32 of course 1000 rubles after all the work done as a bonus . the president of the Soviet Union alone earned only 800 rubles per month. there is no way these soldiers get more salary above the standard soldier's salary of 250 rubles per month. a bonus of 1,000 rubles was a lot in the Soviet Union

The "armor" from the roof clearing scene can protect them from some forms of radiation, but not all like gamma radiation. As small protection it might provide, it's better than nothing.

@LIPPSMACKER

Жыл бұрын

You’re right! I learned from the podcast after watching this episode that they were actually wearing lead! Kind of a bummer we didn’t get that context in show, I legit just thought they were wearing duct tape! But they were genuinely doing their best amongst the circumstances. I don’t want to filter my reaction edits too much 🤪 sometimes I’ll make incorrect assumptions in the moment, but I love the conversations that open up

@campagnollo

Жыл бұрын

@@LIPPSMACKER it's a reaction channel, not a documentary. Yes, you will get things wrong, but for those of us commenting, we're just educating you.

This episode broke me. Just so sad🥲

it's nor borrowed, it's more a donation, but they're asking for the wrong stuff.

I lived about 70 miles away from Chernobyl. We had no idea what was going on and how serious it was. They informed the people only 36 hours after disaster. My parents were evacuated to Uzbekistan and returned only after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

I have been on this journey with you and I do appreciate it

@LIPPSMACKER

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for being on this journey with me 🥰

it matters if you life 6 days or 6 months or 6 years some of the guys up there even lived 30 years but the dose of radiotion they got could always be measured.

18:52 look at this shot!!! Extremely sad. And the song (Black Raven - Chernobyl) at the end of the episode i believe it was deeply emotional as well.

Enjoyed the reaction. It's actually refreshing that you question things but also look at people's actions with logic. I see you're a gamer, if you haven't watched Arcane I recommend it.

@LIPPSMACKER

Жыл бұрын

So good to have you here! Thank you for the kind message 💜 I’ve not watched arcane!! I’ve added it to my suggestions list!

03:50 No people are excluded from entering. Still are, without loads of permits. Or were, until the war broke out. 05:04 And it would creep me out beyond words to be THAT CLOSE to that piece of roof. But all these people working there are in severe danger anyway. 14:03 Protective gear offered some protection. Not much. That is why they had only 90 seconds. Two minutes would be far too dangerous But some older men offered to take the part of younger men who had no families. So there were some men who went up there more than once. 18:05 No, this was artistic license. The baby died and Ludmilla had other issues because she (and the foetus) were in Pripyat for 48 hours after the explosion. The baby died. The mother lived. By chance. But this was much more dramatic. It doesn't change anything important about the story. LIkewise the bit about graphite tips is not true. The real reason was much more complicated, but the problem was in the design as well as the accepted procedures by those running the power plant. And the Soviet Union did everything it could to hide the real cause of the disaster. THAT is what's important. I have never seen any show or program about real events so filled to the brim with so many genuine heroes. Hundreds of thousands of heroes, many of whom acting in ways that wounded their souls performing grisely, grinding, horrible work for years.

@Big_Bag_of_Pus

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean by the statement "the bit about graphite tips is not true"?

@DavidMacDowellBlue

Жыл бұрын

@@Big_Bag_of_Pus Well, to begin with, the power rods in these reactors were half-boron, half-graphite, moving in and out of thick shielded sheathes, moving back and forth. The actual immediate cause of the explosion was more subtle, according to the videos I've seen describing the accident in detail.

@Big_Bag_of_Pus

Жыл бұрын

@David MacDowell Blue But the way you phrased that suggested that the control rods *didn't* have graphite at the end. They did. It's true that the show arguably places too much emphasis on this, in that some argue that the positive void coefficient of the RBMK design was sufficient by itself to cause the initial steam explosion. But there's no question that pushing a bunch of graphite into the core, and displacing water by doing so, made things much worse more quickly.

@DavidMacDowellBlue

Жыл бұрын

@@Big_Bag_of_Pus The tips were not graphite, but half of the entire rod was graphite. I don't think that is a subtle difference. But...different strokes...

"Thats a 3rd date comment"? I've been out of the dating scene for decades but............. LOL

@LIPPSMACKER

Жыл бұрын

🤣let me finish my dinner before you drop that info!!

@walterblackledge1137

Жыл бұрын

@@LIPPSMACKER 🤣

Another great reaction! I’m a happy customer lol. See you at your next video

@LIPPSMACKER

Жыл бұрын

See you there, apt!!

Lipps, I don't know if you will see this but a recent news item is about how sick a bunch of Russian soldiers got because they went fishing in the cooling pond for the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. They all now have radiation sickness that's how dangerous animals are to this day that are in the exclusion zone.

@LIPPSMACKER

Жыл бұрын

Oh my goodness 😭 I had not seen that news. They were doing the right thing in the show but still so sad

Oh yeah, I watched this once. Not going through this again. Best of luck and hugs.

@LIPPSMACKER

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the hugs!

@LIPPSMACKER

Жыл бұрын

This comment is giving me a little giggle. I fully understand. This show is emotional

Told you it would be hard.

@LIPPSMACKER

Жыл бұрын

😭😭

Hello there

I've seen alot of reactors get upset at the show when it cuts back to the animal detail but if they only showed you it once viewers wouldn't comprehend the toll it takes on people to have to slaughter domesticated animals. I couldn't do this irl. I would've gone awol if I couldn't transfer to soil turning or cutting trees or just something less terrible. I would have taken 24/7 latrine duty over this. Cleaning up crap all day is a small price to pay for being able to go home and look my dog in the eye.

@LIPPSMACKER

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely valid. I think it was an important reality to face in this show. Cuts deep tho 😭

The minimum wage in the Soviet Union was a street sweeper of 70 rubles a month. factory worker salary is 150 rubles per month. army salary 250 rubles per month . the salary of the factory director and mayor is 300 rubles per month. the salary of the president of the USSR was 800 rubles per month. (this is equality in the Soviet Union)