I got the 20 buck Bodum and it makes the best coffee ever. Several points. 1. I bought a stove pot with a thermometer set on top. I used filter water and heat the water to 190 degrees and no more. Boiling water destroys the flavor of the water and boiling water destroys the delicacy of the coffee. I usually make four cups of coffee each morning. 2. While heating the water, I grind my coffee with one enclosed serving scoop, one scoop of coffee per 5 ounces of water. I used one half already grounded coffee and one half just grinder coffee beans. Medium ground is how my coffee is grinded. 3. I use the metal filter only as I use the sediments to give a more earthy taste to the coffee. Previously I had used a paper filter with the metal filter and it makes a more bland tasting coffee. I put a half ounce of olive oil into the pot before pouring the hot water. Funny thing, it reduces the bitterness or acidity of the coffee. Starbucks is now doing this too. 4. I pour three ounces of hot water at a time into the filter and wait for it to go completely down, and then add another two ounces, repeat until I get the full 4 cups poured into the coffee pot. Takes about ten minutes for all of it to be poured. 5. Once done, I immediately pour the coffee into a thermos bottle as it rapidly loses its hot temperature. At the end, I pour half the sediment into the thermos. 6. Cleaning is simple. I shoot a spray of Dawn Power Clean detergent into the Bodum pot and it’s metal filter, and use a small brush to agitate the cleaning solution. I put them upside down on my drying rack. Takes about four hours to drain all the water out. Please remember, the glass pot is delicate and can easily break. I usually drink five to six cups of coffee per day but this Bodum perfectly satisfies my craving to four cups and no more per day.

@MorrisDugan

Ай бұрын

Using olive oil is funny to me, because good olive oil has some bitterness itself. James Hoffmann also mentions using a tiny bit of salt to enhance flavor.

My solution for the paper filters in the Bodum: I use #4 raw paper filters INSIDE of the metal filter. If you pour brewed coffee, from a french press, into the Bodum with just the metal filter you'll see that it doesn't filter out the silt. That's kind of the point of the paper filters, in addition to capturing those oils. I'm surprised it doesn't say within the instructions to do this, as I figured this would be the best way to mitigate the lack of a channel on the side of the glass

@oneitalia2312

Жыл бұрын

So.....we don't want to consume the oils from coffee?

@silv3r111

Жыл бұрын

@@oneitalia2312 Actually this olis are not bad if you use a good coffee. The are a important part of the drink... But if you want a soft drink probably want to reduce the oils... V60 is more like a middle point.

@NateNakao

6 ай бұрын

​@@oneitalia2312That's very much a personal preference thing. Some people like a smoother coffee. Others like something a bit siltier. It truly depends on your taste. I enjoy both, but they are very distinct experiences. I recommend trying one of each of you have the opportunity. Make the same coffee, but use a French press for one cup and a V60 or Chemex for the other cup, and you'll notice a huge difference in flavor, body, and mouthfeel.

@eamonneamonn

3 ай бұрын

Yep! I do the exact same thing!

@lexishannon3952

28 күн бұрын

@@oneitalia2312 the oils from coffee raise your cholesterol

With Chemix, you have to put the 3 sheets on the spout side or it will pour slow because the paper will be weaker with the pour spout if you don't. It's easy to remember. The benefit of paper over metal screen is the paper will filter out all the impurities from the coffee so no grounds and no excessive oil elements will appear below in the Chemix Jar. I like the Jar because we have the larger version and no oils get through to the coffee. The wooden and leather rope is a nice touch with the Chemix and you can get a Jean Jacket with zipper to keep coffee warmer for longer. You get what you pay for.

This is our second K-Classic. We had our first one for many years, so when we had to replace it, we wanted nothing else but this exact kzread.infoUgkxBrV-RbF5Nk0Rlt9i15aao-YMzqzTG8Vf model. We use it for about three people everyday in the morning. The taste and quick brew is one of the reasons we like it so much. There are so many choices of brands of coffee that we would grab what was on sale and test the different brands from there. I would definitely recommend trying different brands of coffee to find the ones you like the most because there are brands that quite frankly taste horrible.

Been using the Bodum for years, I use a #4 filter in the Bodum basket. I believe that recommendation was on the box but could be wrong. Doesn't slow flow much if at all, great clean cup.

@nicholas5396

Жыл бұрын

This 👆🏽

@throughtube8693

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the suggestion, I was thinking about doing this as well.

@nicholas5396

Жыл бұрын

@@throughtube8693 also I used chemex papers alone no basket and worked just like chemex. Only make sure to use a chopstick or metal drinking straw in the pour spout to make sure it doesn't collapse completely and seal around the carafe.

@Wagonman5900

Жыл бұрын

Works for me too.

@Andy-bi4wg

Жыл бұрын

Nice ty

This video was much more informative than I expected. Thank you!

Great video. Thank you for explaining the differences.

I had no idea you also have a coffee channel! Home brewing and coffee, you’re great! I use bodum, I put a small paper filter on top of the metal mesh. This helps the coffee grinds from not getting down into the coffee and making it astringent. I like a finer grind

Actually u can use Bodum with Melitta paper filters. The only extra thing to do is to put a chopstick in there so the air can escape. Not the most ideal solution, but the result is not bad at all.

@sethmcguffee

5 ай бұрын

I do this daily and works like a charm. Simple solution.

@eamonneamonn

3 ай бұрын

I do the same thing. Or you can use chemex filters and just run a pair of chop sticks down the side to create a channel

I went with the Hario V60 drip decanter, which was $21 at the time I purchased it. My local shop uses the V60 for its pour over, so it was a safe choice for me. It came with a stack of filters as well, so that's nice to have

I just put a #4 filter over the metal filter and brew from there Less mess to deal with

@eamonneamonn

3 ай бұрын

Same!

Thank you !

Add a cone filter to the Bodum and you'll get a much clearer, less harsh coffee.

@gildersleevefan67

Жыл бұрын

This is the correct answer!

@racerdude7149

4 ай бұрын

I don’t use a paper filter with my bodum and I have never had a harsh cup of joe

The color of the resulting brew is enough proof that these devices do not make the same cup of coffee, wow. Did you note the amount of time it took to brew the coffee with the Bodum? I hypothesise that the amount of total steep time may also be a big factor, since the metal mesh is a more permeable allowing for a faster drain. Very entertaining video as always. Helpful in deciding what things to buy for what experience. It really is a pleasure to see your logic/understanding and presentation style on the topic of coffee, I look forward to more exciting videos.

@keenoncoffee

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I didn't time it, but the Bodum certainly completed faster, so yes less extraction time which probably made a notable difference.

@eyespy3001

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been using the Bodum system for about 5 months now, and I’m constantly attempting to fine-tune it. Admittedly, this is my first pour-over system, so it’s been a steep learning curve from day one. My first attempts yielded a very “thin” brew. They were super light, weak, and sour. I chalked that up to the wrong coffee to water ratio. I eventually landed on this formula: 23 grams of grinds to 12.5 fluid ounces of water for a single cup of coffee. It’s a little in the stronger side, which I like. The next thing I tried to tackle was the sour taste. I figured that came down to brew time. I experimented with using regular paper filters in the mesh strainer, and that kind of worked to solved the problem, but also created a new set of problems: wasting time and making waste. The advantage of the Bodum system is that you’re not producing more garbage, having to throw out paper filters every time. So, I ditched the paper filters and began experimenting with grind size. A finer grind would result in a very bitter coffee, because the water would take longer to pass through the grinds, extracting more oils. A courser grind would result in the same thin brew that I started with when I began using the system. I’ve landed on a mostly fine, but kind of course blend. It results in a fairly strong, teetering on bitter brew that stands up well to the Laird’s Superfood Creamer I’ve been into lately. If I was going to go for drinking it black, I might lean a little more towards course for a milder brew. Never did I think I’d have to get so mathematical and scientific for a cup of coffee. I’ve been a loyal French press user for nearly twenty years, and I nailed that fairly easily early on. But, I left my French press in another state , so I figured I’d give the Bodum a try because it was cheap. Despite the la work involved, I’ve been happy with it. Thanks for reading. I hope my experiences can help you or anyone on their quest for a perfect cup using the Bodum system

I love the Chemex; it’s fun to brew in and aesthetically looks gorgeous and the coffee that comes out is refined and full of origin characteristics. However, my go-to is the ever dependable 02 size Hario V60 as a) the filters are far cheaper b) it’s quicker for morning coffee and c) you do get more of that oil in your cup. It’s less refined than a Chemex, but for everyday use it’s great. As for the Bodum - I think I would just stick to a French Press for that kind of coffee.

I have both. I have had the Cemex for almost 2 years new in the box because I couldn’t find the filters. When I did find the filters they were so expensive… I like the bodum. I use a regular coffee filter in the mesh filter for easier clean up and smooth taste. Bodum does make a double wall edition.

@__-ul7cc

9 ай бұрын

Do you know if it's possible to use the bodum without the metal filter included with it and instead use a chemex filter? Will it work?

@chasemiller4243

6 ай бұрын

​@@__-ul7ccyes it will work, however you need something like a chopstick to ensure the filter doesnt create a perfect seal around the opening. Its also good to note that youll probably experience some crumpling of the filter because the bodum pour over doesnt have the same angle as the filter does.

You should put the chemex filter 3 layers towards the opening. (Twist it 180 degrees)

Just bought the 8 cup Bodum. I put in basket with a generic #4 filter. The bodum has a pouring lip. Through that its vented down into the carafe. I ground coffee in a Baratza Virtuoso on setting 28. Tasted great. I'm not seeing how the tube on the Chemex vents better? Open to an explanation but first look closely at the bodum. Happy I got this for $20. No brainer

I have yet another Chemex clone, that I don't think is made any more - a 40 ounce "Cafe Brew" flask, made from Schott borosilicate glass. Sometimes I steep the coffee in it, and then filter it through a coffee sock. I don't have a permanent or any Chemex paper filters yet, so one time I stacked two #4 filters for pour through. Usually I pour into it through the coffee sock. I like using something that works like paper, but is much more reusable. In the past, I used a large vase of similar shape for a while, that I got at Dollar Tree. The main difference between all these flasks is probably the filter choice.

Hi! What scale are you using??

What grinds do you guys use for the bodom - Fine, Medium or Coarse?

Currently in Canada the Chemex is 74.46 + 23.55 for 100 filters. The Bodum from this link is unavailable but an updated 17oz one is 23.20. Even without the cost of the filters the Chemex is 3.2x the price of the Bodum. the filters are expensive. I get a good deal on ethical bean lush coffee at Costco 907gm for 13.99 on sale. With my standard 20gm coffee that I use to the #4 line in my braun aromaster, the coffee only costs me

Just put a paper filter in the basket of the Bodum?

Not really the condensation that would be a problem, it would create a vacuum lock since it would be completely sealed with the glass and no air can escape, no water can come in the bodum either… what you can do is the same as with the chemex you can use a metal straw at the spout and have the air escape that way

They are literally just 2 glasses how could they be different

@chasemiller4243

6 ай бұрын

If the differences are obvious/dont matter to you its fine to just buy what you want. Me personally, I started with the bodum and later bought the chemex and donated the bodum. There are many reasons why, buy overall the quality of life of using the chemex vs using the bodum is massively different from my perspective, however the bodum served me fine when I had it.

@gabbagoobus9158

5 ай бұрын

@@chasemiller4243the only difference is the coffee filter. There is no other difference that would affect it.

@carlosespinoza6182

2 ай бұрын

The oils from the coffee are supposed to get through on the cheaper one so they compared it to a french press, in contrast the chemex uses thick paper filters so it’s better filtered and you’re supposed to get a smoother taste. Maybe u gotta be real delicate in taste to notice the difference, idk. I keep hearing the chemex is real good.

I bought a 115 dollar chemex and an 80 dollar chemex. I like the look of them. I like the heritage of the company.

How much water? How much coffee? What kind of coffee did you use? I've got both coffee makers (Goodwill, $1 each 😊 both brand spanking new!) Thanks for the great tutorial 👍)

If you use Hario cheaper filters in the chemex they fall into the vent and the pressure won't release making the coffee take forever to brew. Likely what would happen with bodum with paper filters. I like the v60, pretty much the same, but chemex has more expensive filters

@eamonneamonn

3 ай бұрын

If you put a pair of chop sticks in the Bodum, it'll prevent the vapor lock or whatever. But yeah my every day is definitely the Origami

Yep, I need to step up my coffee game. I bring a 16oz mug of black coffee to work every day, but brew it with a coffee maker set on a timer.

@ItsBugtronic

2 жыл бұрын

I always find the more effort I put in the better coffee I get, and once you get use to different methods the amount of additional effort is minimal. My pod drip maker is my last resort I find myself reaching for the French Press far more often. It requires the same amount of work and I personally find it a much more enjoyable beverage. But the methods are numerous so no lack of options.

@keenoncoffee

2 жыл бұрын

Right. Nothing wrong with the convenience of a coffee maker. But I do find, especially when tasting new beans, that a pour over brings out a lot more flavor and it worth the time.

@joshuatricarico3237

2 жыл бұрын

I would recommend an aeropress as well! Look into it and you’ll see it’s a quick, easy way to make a really good cup of coffee!

@ItsBugtronic

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshuatricarico3237 Aeropress is a quick and tasty cup, I find for the best cup it does require a bit of a learning curve to get the water temperatures and amount of grounds just right for each roast. but that should not be a barrier to entry as it still makes great coffee.

It looks like the metal basket would fit a #2 melitta style filter, I wonder if that would work

@keenoncoffee

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I think that would be a good workaround.

@InktronicsBlog

Жыл бұрын

That’s what I use.

@jasonlarsen3515

Жыл бұрын

That’s what I do

@eamonneamonn

3 ай бұрын

#4, but yes totally

Have you ever tried a Hario V60? If so what did you think? And how does it compare to these two? I've recently started brewing my first pour overs with the V60 and it changed my life!

@keenoncoffee

2 жыл бұрын

Ha great to hear! I use a Melitta pour over for most of my brews which is pretty similar I think. Love the convenience.

@TomBeld

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the Melitta pour over looks pretty similar to the V60 to me. Do you find there to be much difference tastewise between the Melitta and the Chemex?

@ether2434

2 жыл бұрын

Hi. I use both a v60 and this Bodum pour over decanter with #02 size v60 paper filters that sit on top of the basket. I personally cannot tell the difference in taste between two identical recipes, grind settings etc. To me they taste the same, either will get you GREAT coffee. I personally use the Bodum more, as I like it's looks more, the feel of it, ease of cleaning, etc, tho I take the v60 out when I want to make coffee for only one cup

@ether2434

2 жыл бұрын

The v60, this Bodum and the chemex give different tastes and experiences. For one, neither the v60 or the Bodum will have the brew stall by the filter sealing pressure inside where your coffee is being dripped into. Secondly, the chemex makes cleaner tasting coffee because the filters themselves are about 4 times the amount of paper found in a v60 filter. You may read this and think this is something good, except not really, you need to try if you like the extra cleanness or not, the v60 and the Bodum make a more nuanced cup, as its not filtering all the oils and things in coffee that make coffee, coffee, personally I like the nuance more so I prefer those two over the chemex. so it'd be up to you to decide which one you'd prefer.

@TomBeld

2 жыл бұрын

Cool! Thank you for your elaborate replies :D! I take it there's no reason for me to get myself a Chemex or Bodum drip. But I'll keep an eye out for the possibility to try them someday :).

How hot can the water be in terms of F or C to not harm the Bodum glass?

I still want to see the video when trying the Chemex filter to the cheaper glass

I was waiting to see the Chemex filter used on the Bodum, just to try it...

@eamonneamonn

3 ай бұрын

Gotta run a chop stick or something into the Bodum to prevent vapor lock

Does no one read the instructions anymore? 3 ply against the flute of the chemex to prevent the filter from potentially adhering to the glass and stalling your brew.

@dgale1023

2 жыл бұрын

you saw that too eh?

@rooky3526

2 жыл бұрын

@@dgale1023 That I did.

It's easy enough to use the Chemex filters in the cheap pour-over, and I've not noticed any real impact from condensation... or indeed any condensation at all. That said, I don't make pour over all that often.

@keenoncoffee

2 жыл бұрын

Oh cool, good to know that's an option.

I think I would use the paper filter for the Bodum 🤔

I have both and use the same filter for both there is literally zero difference in flavor

I have a chemex with fine metal filter

Did not expect to find Homebrew Challenge when I opened up this video

@keenoncoffee

Жыл бұрын

Haha, surprise!

What is the scale used for?

@shmaknapublar

Жыл бұрын

To control the process. That's why he keeps speaking about water to coffee ratios. Measure the amount of coffee, then zero your scale and start the brewing process. You'll need the scale during brewing if you want to repeat results with the most consistency, using the same amount of water during the bloom, and however many other stages of pour you choose to use. A timer will help as well.

I have both, and the ONLY way I got the Bodum to work for me and brew a halfway decent cup was by using a cloth filter. The metal one is garbage, the paper filters stick to the edges or drop in entirely.

@angelicaherrera2850

2 жыл бұрын

What cloth filters do you recommend?

@jasonlarsen3515

Жыл бұрын

I put #2 paper filter into the mesh basket.

@eamonneamonn

3 ай бұрын

You gotta put the paper filter inside the basket

Really think comparing the Bodum to a French Press is a bad analogy. French Press allows a lot more of the oils through than any pour over system as the grounds stay with the body of water. Bodum has more body coming through though than a paper filter. That is correct.

longlevity?

I don't get why so many people here in the comments still use paper filters with the Bodum... Folks, the oils make coffee so much richer.

@Mikey-ym6ok

6 күн бұрын

That’s your opinion.

I like the easy cleanup and silt removal using a paper filter, however, the paper filter gets clogged up with the silt and by the time the coffee makes it way through the filter, it’s cold. I wonder if the paper filters come in different mesh size

Theres a lot of Chemex on the used market

Shocker, use a paper filter in the Bodem

You didn't address clean-up. Clean-up is always a factor. How do you wash the containers???????

Use paper filters for both then blind fold taste test it. I guarantee he would not be able to discern the difference

First

There is no difference, people. Stop it.

this fool used the metal filter. i'm out.

@rebeccafrazer6738

2 жыл бұрын

If that’s how it’s marketed, why wouldn’t he use as it is originally packaged/intended in order to compare? If you’re going to have to hack something, would it really have been a comparison at all?

@Bigpoppaabe8

2 жыл бұрын

@@rebeccafrazer6738 if you are talking about coffee on youtube it would be helpful to tell people how they can make the product useful. it would be helpful to know how the bodum would compare if you bought paper filters for it. Just seems like this guy doesn't know what he is talking about. So not even worth to keep watching.

@maurice2014

Жыл бұрын

@@Bigpoppaabe8 bro what's your problem? When you're testing something out a baseline test comes first then you can hack it with tips and tricks. You make it sound like he click baited us or something..

@Bigpoppaabe8

Жыл бұрын

@@maurice2014 not click bait. Just ignorant. U rather watch someone competent.