damn a sponsor. congrats cool to to see that's channel getting some proper attention

@Flameypig

Ай бұрын

Facts

The metal floors certainly did you no favours. Where you normally have very good driving, free throw had such good grip in comparison.

Aw man, it really pains me to see poor cheesecake get such a low score, good luck in your next tournament, though!

Chesecake sure makes for interesting fights the way it throws itself around whenever its weapon hits the floor.

Cheesecake's record (as of video) Official fights: 41(37)-15(7) Exhibition fights 2(1)-2(2)-1 Though Cheesecake's record may have broken the 40 win barrier and earned its first exhibition wins, it has come at a great cost. Quite an unfortunate showing, culture shock is nothing to mess with. Based on what we have seen there are a few issues that need to be addressed: grip, power, and new iterations of control bots. It will definitely be interesting to see how Alex addresses these. Hard luck this time around but goodluck to anyone who wants to take a bite of Cheesecake.

I found myself rooting for Cheesecake like I do my local football team. Sad to see him only go 2:2 but what a ride. Makes for a good redemption arc for Cheesecake too as he heads back out West next year for revenge 😂

Alex, really appreciate your content and everything you are doing for the combat robot community! Super stoked to be the “Spiritual Brother” to cheesecake. Look forward to our next fight! Keep up the great work 👍

What really impresses me about Free Throw is its ability to just bend away when it takes a hit on the back. You got some solid hits, but I think it was able to deflect a lot of that energy . And despite flopping around like that, it regained control quickly!

@zavtparticles6828

Ай бұрын

that what my brain was thinking too, hard to make a lot of contact onto a surface that can just wobble and bounce away before cheesecake can grab onto them.

Have you considered adding magnets to the top and bottom plates for when you're going to be on steel floors? Could add some much needed traction

@fromfin90

Ай бұрын

also adds weight if you want sufficiently strong magnets to give enough weight

@nuclearboom2467

Ай бұрын

@@fromfin90 well i mean small magnets dont really need to be that strong, only strong enough to allow cheese cake to grip the steel floor better

@dirtdart81

Ай бұрын

Magnets only pull hard when they're really close to the ferrous object. Even the small clearance cheesecake has, it isn't worth the weight

@hazza2247

Ай бұрын

@@dirtdart81 idk if this actually exists but what about a strip of ‘magnetic foil’ or a really thin magnetic metal loop as the tread for the wheels

@chrisward9218

Ай бұрын

@@dirtdart81 That's fair. I was thinking how much magnets helped LowLowMan, but I forgot to consider the fact that LowLowMan is low. The only other option I see working then is fatter wheels, but Cheesecake doesn't have the space or the spare weight to take fatter wheels

Before this video came out I was checking the channel for new videos over and over, and eventually spoiled the video by looking up the tournament and seeing what place everyone got.

Never forget that failure is the best teacher. When we stop failing, we stop learning.

chanting " CHEESECAKE CHEESAKE" !!!!! You are such a wonderful sport!!! I hope you have kids.

Go Cheesecake! New mood unlocked: Deatharang in a pyramid.

Another crazy idea: as the blade is slighty angled, you should get some gyro by spinning the robot. Is it possible to put it on its side voluntarily? So turning it into an unexpected vertical spinner. And to give it a little bit of movement, turn the side armor into bristles.

"i'll try spinning that's a good trick" got me laughing way harder than it should have.

Cheesecake is back! For another slice! Badumpch

Can’t believe how quality well done your videos always are for such a small channel! I watch every one. I wish you much success:)

23:43 You turned into a vertical spinner by spinning horizontally your horizontal weapon bearing bot ahah

Timothy's Tips: -Give Cheesecake better traction on steel, such as probably a magnet to keep on the ground. -Unlike SMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, Free Throw has a sturdy frame that doesn't bend, proving the point that minivits are better than SMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE is true. -Use the sweet tooth against low-ground bots like Free Throw to keep on the ground and gain traction.

Cheesecake vs Tiramisu? I call that the Battle of the Deserts' Sweet wits

maaaaan, i wanted cheesecake to go up and beyond. he's the best little boy.

At the start it felt like rewatching Cars 3 where the lighting McQueen started losing to the new racers

The steel floor seems pretty nasty for cheesecake with how much force it throws into those walls.

Fantastic tourney. I'm really enjoying the ant weight combat. Thanks.

Congrats on the sponsorship! Free Throw is a tough bot, very similar to Coleman's NHRL champion 12lb Full Court which is almost the same but way bigger except its a few inches shy of 6ft long, and has two little self righting arms which at the time qualified as an active weapon (2024 NHRL rules did ban this approach however). And of course who can forget the original SMEEEEEEEEEEEE in the 3lb class which was very successful in its day.

Great video as always, and I love the cut-ins of your references with their source. When you did the "Worf says 9th place" one I subscribed immediately. That lives in my head rent-free and comes out every time I hear anyone say 9th anything.

Great to see more man, can't wait for the other weights you plan to get into, and for that team name hopefully.

Some improvements I’ve thought of is a wide sweet tooth for bots with forks and also changing your side armor to tpu and maybe getting a bigger battery

@ttt-123-ttt

Ай бұрын

Weight

Your videos regularly break 10k and one video breaks 500k you deserve it. And the storytelling is always very good.

Could an angled cake slice maybe be used as another alternate addition for fights against super low profile bots like wedge #2?

@thundersheild926

Ай бұрын

I don't think that would work sadly. I get the idea, but angled down would just make it so that the angle between the blade and the wedge gets even worse. Angled up would do it, but then you can't slip it under the other robot.

cheesecake didn't fair the best, but it did pretty well considering these were some of the best in the nation. And you got a lot of really valuable data, especially about your weapon collet. it also seemed like a lot of fun too.

absolute banger

keep going bro i fucking love seeing cheesecakes journey through the ranks! love from australia

Have you thought driving in reverse over wedge robots? So you are immediately right way around to hit from behind.

@alexsalchemy

Ай бұрын

That's a good idea! I didn't trust myself to drive backwards without fishtailing, but I should probably try to make that work for the reason you described, because that would be sick.

@DazedHamburger

16 күн бұрын

Wait whay is fishtailing? ​@@alexsalchemy

Put the curve in Cheesecake's rear armor the other direction and flare it down i to a wedge. That will give you another option for attack.

8:55 when I saw that Cheesecake put on the chonky weapon, I literally yelled "OH LAWD HE COMIN" 😂😂

for the fight cheesecake vs vector, who was flippin playing pinball from a arcade place

Having no grip on those steel floors was killer. Great fights though! Curious to see how you combat that if you get to do more West Coast stuff!

Fantastic selection of Cheesecake fights and more. You do a great job narrating the videos too.

@alexsalchemy

Ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

I could imagine that it would be advantageous for you to try jumps (like in the fight against Free Throw) backwards. So that you don't have to turn Cheesecake, to aim your weapon at the opponent.

Great video as always Alex!

Perhaps you could detect big hits and reverse the weapon spin to immediately have it bounce back to a good (reverse) speed. That might reduce the power drain to spin the weapon back up and it may also help prevent the big spins throwing cheesecake all over the arena by channeling that momentum back into the weapon

23:42 never thought I would see a top attack horizontal

Just adding some electrical tape to the wheels might be a cheap, temporary solution for more grip on the steel floor that doesn't add much weight and is easy to replace.

8:50 THE CHONKERSSSS!!!

was fun seeing your fights! Hope you eventually switch to a hub-system like Andrew's Malice, I guarantee you'll find a noticeable jump in reliability.

ohhh poor, poor cheesecake... still, having this be one of cheesecake's only bad showings is nothing to sneeze at! let's see if he can't beat the westcoast robros next time

wedge 2 and iron wedge have double boss fight energy

deatharang is absolutely the coolest bot iv seen even if its not super effective

love the good pointed cut scenes 🤣

Really enjoying cheesecakes journey!

A more suitable wheel for the slippery metal arena may be in order.

whooo! sponsors

Maybe a small groove in the wheels so you could add a rubberband or something to gain some grip.. :)

Would you consider adding a fan to make a vacuum under the bot to keep it stuck to the floor a little better?

It was so nice to meet up!

I wonder if there is something you could do with stickier tire material or some way to reduce cheesecakes spinning after every big hit.

Ever consider adding a gyro? Some rx comes with one built-in. It might help give more control on the slippery surface.

I enjoy seeing what happens when cheesecake loses because I enjoy seeing your analysis of why that happened and plans to improve cheesecake's performance in the future.

Hey, hold on, this took place like 10 minutes from my house. I'll have to check it out next year! Been really fun to watch the development of Cheesecake.

his commentary calms me

great Vid

Chese cake seems to have a lot of cousins

The RCL was definitely a brutal tournament but it was still a fun time. Great seeing you again! Will you be going to the Sussex County GSCRL event?

wow I love how people just bring snowplow bots with no active weapon and just turn to face the other bot without ever moving towards them! So fun! Free throw winning is actually so stupid.

I think the metal floors in California are not optimal for 1lb bots. A 250lb bot would have no problem, but I think it would be helpful for ant weights to compete on wooden floors. Leave metal floors for much heavier bots.

In addition to the new mount, the weapon disk should also receive some attention. Looks like it was bending at the tip causing much or your vibration issues.

@alexsalchemy

Ай бұрын

Yeah, Cheesecake is hitting pretty hard now, so his weapon bar might actually be a weak link, haha.

Beetle weight, here we come!

Just found your content! Very well put together and extremely entertaining to watch. Any chance you'll be hitting up the MN match?

@alexsalchemy

Ай бұрын

Awesome, I'm glad to have you here! Eh, MN is pretty far for a regular tournament, and I'm pretty busy working on my 3lb robot, but I'd love to hit up the Midwest again sometime!

definitely think you want to be reversing over bots like free throw, means you can engage them with you weapon much quicker once behind

Deatherang ... I like your chaotic style.

finali new video

are studded or spiked wheels allowed? the problem with the low-friction floor seems to be 2-fold, not only do you go flying, you don't get to actually impart any energy into the thing you hit. I do have a very silly idea about an alternative way of generating grip via suction but it's almost certainly too fragile and not doable within your weight constraints

CHEESCAKE!

Just gotta work on some grippy shoes for cheese cake to fight on metal and she'll be right.

I think the sweet tooth might have helped against free throw to rip out his forks, having bad traction was the biggest problem for sure, Cheesecake lives off strong mobility.

i love cheesecake

Could Cheesecake have enough speed to jump Free Throw going backwards so as to be ready to immediately charge into Free Throw's back? Not that doing that on an unfamiliar floor would have been easy.

As the time I make this comment cheese cakes fight record is now 19 fights lost and 56 fights won

would there be any major difference to cheesecake if you were to tilt the spinner by 10-30º?

Grude match

I dont know how much spare weight you have in cheesecake, but what about a new set of wheels for steel floors with the magnets built into the wheels? Have a search for "wheel magnets wall robot/s" for some ideas!!!

Who thought that a steel floor would be a good idea for robots this light? It works for the larger weight classes because the weight itself allows for traction and makes allowance for magnets and whatnot easier, with robots this light it's just going to be a total ice rink.

@alexsalchemy

19 күн бұрын

I've actually heard that the Battlebots floor (also steel) is kind of an ice rink as well. Apparently this lack of traction scales up, but steel floors are nice because they're more resistant to damage and getting sharp parts stuck in them. Ultimately though, I agree, wood is my preferred floor material.

@heirofaniu

19 күн бұрын

@alexsalchemy I understand for the higher weight classes needing that durability since they still need to replace the panels regularly, especially if a bot like Tombstone or Deep Six decides that the floor looks delicious that day, and I suppose not getting stuck in the floor as often is kinda nice for a driver, but a steel floor on such small bots is just excessive. Especially since a wooden floor takes minutes to replace and can be done for far less money.

There doesn't seem to be any robot fighting groups out here in Phoenix, otherwise I think I'd get into this hobby

RIP east coast team. Getting in to battlebot's myself, looking forward to competing with you in an east coast ring one day!

I'm going to add cheese cakes record to his fight record later

I thought you had cleet wheels to combat the lack of traction of the floor?

16:57 um ackshually dulce de lucha was still in🤓

Cool

Do you think you'd run magnets if you fight out west again? I've seen them get real popular out west.

nice

What about reversing over wedges etc?

I think the lower traction floor may also have been a mitigating factor on your energy consumption issues.

Is it just me or is the Pid Tune for the Yaw Axis a bit too sensitive.

@alexsalchemy

Ай бұрын

Yeah, the problem is also that Cheesecake doesn't always stay pointed straight (he jiggles around quite a bit) so it's hard to find a good steering curve on my transmitter that always feels good.

I kind of want to see a rematch against mudksipper

Maybe tracks for slippery steel floors

👍

Hi Alex I have been loving watching cheescake and I am currently making my own bot and i have a question maybe you have mentioned it already and I'm deaf but how close is cheescake to the weight limit?

@alexsalchemy

Ай бұрын

It depends which attachments I'm using. Without the Cake Slice or Sweet Tooth, Cheesecake currently weighs around 435 grams (the weight limit is 454 grams).

Did anybody notice the cake slice in the first match?

i have a vey important question, how do you afford the repairs, i do beetleweight so I get its more expensive but still, is there like a cheat code to durable motors?

@alexsalchemy

Ай бұрын

Well, at this weight class, my drive motors are Repeat Robotics ones which seem to last forever (especially since my wheels are protected), and my weapon motors are battle hardened (I smear epoxy between the magnets in the rotor) and they have their shafts replaced with tool steel core pins, so the shafts rarely bend.