Just ordered my Fractal Define 7 and can't wait to put my BluRay writer in. I don't know why people make fun of those who still use them, even in 2020 I still need a optical drive. Btw this review was the one that got me to buy it, love your review style Wendel.

@kurtkesslinger7917

3 жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with a blu ray player.I went with the fractal design 7 XL BECAUSE it had the option to put in ODD..well thought out case, AND it has a manual..not that one needs one after a while..BUT the manual does tell me that it will hold the AIO coolers i want to use on the top..as opposed to the Corsair Obsedian 1000D which I got yesterday and am having it RMA and picked up tomorrow..got 3/4 way through build.went to put in the top mounted Corsair H150i Pro XT only to find the damn thing would NOT work with that cooler...Corsair gave me a 10 cent poster which one one side has a pic of the Obsedian and the side..I kid you not..about 8 Ikea drawings on the other side...like a fricking huge treasure map..WTF? Not all PC gamers are 16 year olds that want to hang a goofy poster on the wall..and for the 550 price of the Obsidian they could have AT THE VERY LEAST made a fricking manual..like Fractal does.which allows me prior to order to confirm specs for my build..thanks Fractal for a much better case at over half the price! Corsair you lose out again!

@Sgt_Glory

2 жыл бұрын

@@kurtkesslinger7917 I'm planning a build with this case, did that H150i Pro XT not work due to it's length and the Blu Ray drive getting in the way? I'm planning on a H115i Capellix to give my drives space.

NEED those wheels? Vid's up on floatplane and patreon :D

@TheJustinist

4 жыл бұрын

Wait....you guys are on floatplane?.....subbed

@wegee8287

4 жыл бұрын

the U.2 drive holder/swap bay is cooler (IMO)

@DREDKNOT2063

4 жыл бұрын

hey guys could i still fit my bluray burner in the 5.25 bay with a ( Aquacomputer Airplex Radical 2/280, Aluminum Fins ) placed topside an frontside its Dimensions are :320 x 140 x 40 mm this is importent to me as i still use my burner quite offen ? an would ther be enough space the place a set of 140mm fans topside with the rad an not run into the mainboard or ram my chosen cpublock would ther be clearence ,fitting are this ( CPU-RYZEN-X-MK / two 90-Degree With Dual Inner G1/4″ Elbow Adapter - Black / two 5mm Spacer Adapter - Male-Male G1/4 - Black / two DarkSide 1/2″ID - 3/4″OD Straight Compression Fitting - Black one set for input an output ) ? www.dazmode.com/shop/watercooling/darkside-1-2″id-3-4″od-straight-compression-fitting-black/ www.dazmode.com/shop/watercooling/fittings/angled-adapters-and-flow-splitters/90-adapters/90-degree-with-dual-inner-g1-4-elbow-adapter-black/ www.dazmode.com/shop/watercooling/fittings/spacers-thread-adapters/male-male/5mm-spacer-adapter-male-male-g14-black/ www.bykski.us/collections/am4/products/bykski-cpu-ryzen-x-mk-cpu-water-cooling-block-silver-w-rbw-am2-am3-am4-tr4

@HardwareAddiction

3 жыл бұрын

So, is it possible to understand which wheels you put on there and how? without going to patreon?

@Level1Techs

3 жыл бұрын

It's just office chair wheels?

Turn your mic on next time, love the look of the case.

I'm prepared for a top radiator phonograph mount

This why I love fractel for giving me a 5.25 bay.

@taipeitaiwan10

4 жыл бұрын

LazyGeekgamer HD is dead channel guess they are focusing their marketing on over 40yr olds now

@bottomtext5872

4 жыл бұрын

@@taipeitaiwan10 There designing for everything. You do know not only disk drives populate 5.25 slots right

@Kougeru

4 жыл бұрын

@@taipeitaiwan10 I'm no where near 40 and still love ODD so I can rip/rip movies and also play older games I don't want to buy again (many of which are only sold in edited versions now)

@DrPacman

4 жыл бұрын

it makes the difference between having a pc that can do everything and a pc that can't

@solarstrike33

4 жыл бұрын

@@Kougeru 19 here and I like ODDs.

I built a new rig a month ago, and on the recommendation of a friend of mine I changed from the Enthoo Elite to the Define 7 XL. I am absolutely satisfied with this case. Start to finish, including planning, was less than a day in this case. Good review!

@pattiboy5898

2 жыл бұрын

How it works now with 7 XL? :) about airflow

@JohnLGalt_1

2 жыл бұрын

@@pattiboy5898 I keep the front door open when gaming, so it can draw in air directly, but overall, very well. Ambient air gets hot, because the 3080 Ti puts out a lot of heat, but overall, internal ambient never gets too warm, even with both CPU and GPU being pushed hard.

Love that it still has the 5.25" bay, now just need a version without that glass panel. Cool to see Fractal sell an XL-ATX case again to go with the new trx40 gigabyte boards.

@Lishtenbird

4 жыл бұрын

The no-glass versions exist and are also cheaper than the glass ones.

That was a fun review - I know it is 'old', but I just bought the XL. Thanks!

No 5.25 bay is a dealbreaker for me, so it's nice to see fractal at least giving us the option. I like to own my media and I want the ability to use it however/whenever I want, rather than being subject to the whims/existence of a streaming service.

@praetorxyn

4 жыл бұрын

I mean... there are legitimate reasons for wanting a 5.25" bay (because things like an Aquaero go in one)... but even I scoff every time someone mentions optical media. I use optical media too, and I keep the drive in an external enclosure and just connect it via USB precisely because I don't want to waste space in my case for it, nor do I want it in my way when I'm not using it.

@InAUGral

4 жыл бұрын

I do not use them often but I still do at least a few times a month for old games or software or even some old movies.

@sk1ppman

3 жыл бұрын

I use an optical drive with MakeMKV to rip my BluRays to my NAS for playback with my nVidia Shield Boxes

@jayw350

3 жыл бұрын

@@sk1ppman yep, me too. I use ANYDVD

One of the best reviews of the XL I've found so far, and it has humor too! Great video :)

Great review. The only one that answered all my questions! Thanks so much!

OMG, I can't believe you put wheels on it and really didn't mention much about it in this video. I saw you made another video about it. I got a Define 7 Compact recently, and I may get a Define 7 next. I may need to add some wheels!

i feel like the only cases i like are the from fractal design :D

@mrsmilescam1550

3 жыл бұрын

Same 😂

running back to past Level1Techs vids, I didn't realize 6 years younger me was not hooked to Wendell's presentation in his videos as much as now, at the time I thought the vids was though really technical it was lacking in entertainment, rarely went to L1T all those years for tech coverage in KZread, one recall I have was that time Threadripper 3000 exploration was Wendell's deep series and HEDT overall I was biasing interest to, as Steve GN said it now, bigger number better channels for PC tech content consumption oh how unfair that was from me, you have been building content with a lot of value in it, it has so much replay value! I really get to have appreciation to your efforts!

How did I miss this one with Epos Vox??? and I have the bell rung. 3 years to boot! dang...

Fractal does it again with another hit! Would like to see thermals from this for normal operations and from gaming (maybe the define 7 if the 7xl is for more server-y stuff)

I neeeeeed an optical drive in my primary desktop! @Wendel there was a motherboard with a tube amplifier built into it once upon a time.

Can I just thank you for the smooth beats

WHOO! FINALLY!

Nice! Now I have something to upgrade from my R6 too when I eventually get around to having money.... Just need the option for no glass panel as well for those of us who literally just want a black box

@jintsuubest9331

4 жыл бұрын

Fractal will charge a premium for literally a steel panel. When I get my r6, the TG version is somehow cheaper at my location.

@NotAverageAfro

4 жыл бұрын

@@jintsuubest9331 They have 3 versions on their website, from what I can find atm, they're all the same price. 2 Steel side panels, then a light TG panel, and a dark TG panel.

I Am So Glad Some One Is Still Thinking About Us Over Kill Enthusiast That Love To Build Over Kill computers & Servers And Still Need LOTS of 3.5 bays & Even a Couple Of 5.25" Bays ! I Still Use a XL ATX Motherbord on my gaming rig with 3.5 hdds (7 For Different Games like steam,origin,uplay) & 2 ssd's for (Dual OS) ! My Main Server is A Dual Xeon Supermicro Bord That is EEWB & Has 8 hdds + 2 ssd's Drives That Is in a Fractal Define XLR2 Case ! And I Need A Bigger Case That I Like But Cant Really Find any thing i like that was EEWB With Out going to a 4U Server Case !

@rezenclowd3

3 жыл бұрын

I miss my Fractal Define Mini mATX build. 6 3.5" 10TB Drives in raid 10, and 4 SSDs in the 5.25 slot, could fit 2 more. Sadly, there are no more mATX cases as like this anymore.

Nice, a big case that actually holds longer boards! Would like to have a 10 expansion slot capable instead of just 9 though.

Bought a Define XL nearly 8 years ago, love it. Not planning to replace it any time soon... Btw, do people not care about storage these days?

@17Codiferus

4 жыл бұрын

The market has been migrating away from local storage for a long time, the pace has been picking up lately. It's moving to dedicated devices (SAN/NAS setups) or the cloud (SAN/NAS setups someone else owns/runs).

@niter43

4 жыл бұрын

Why typical user would need more than few TB in our age? Most can live with ≤1TB, so with single SSD, probably even in M.2 format.

@Starscreamious

4 жыл бұрын

I care a lot about storage. I bought a Lian Li doublewide case that houses 10x2 3.5inch HDD's.

@h2oaddict28

4 жыл бұрын

@@Starscreamious I can fit 10 just on the front of my define r4 :)

@Starscreamious

4 жыл бұрын

@@h2oaddict28 That's a rare feat. My old NZXT Tempest could do 8... My Lian Li has been modded to support more than 20.

Finally a review that shows how the case is with a DVD/Bluray drive. This is missing from many other reviews. Gonna upgrade soon, and want to keep my blu-ray drive, and 3.5" cardreader hub with usb 3.0 and type C.

YES! I'm excited :)

Hey I love my optical Drive s lol. 👍🙂👍

Was planning to get the R2 XL but this looks like a nice refinement of the same principle.

Cool. Bit pricy but a nice improvement to the 5. Still dazed that manufacturers actually listen ;) Thanks for sharing.

@Outland9000

4 жыл бұрын

Fractal are like the Noctua of case manufacturers.

This video pushed me to make the decision. It’s coming next month, thanks!

Been using the Fractal/Noctua combination for almost 5 years now and built my most recent PC just 3 months ago in an R6 with a HN-U12A cpu cooler and three NF-A12x25 pwm case fans. Once Noctua make a 140mm version of their fantastic NF-A12x25 pwm I might be able to combine that with the Define 7 to make one _mamma-jamma_ of an air cooled rig.

@Outland9000

4 жыл бұрын

@INKS Optimum Tech has a video of the all black chromax version of the nf12a fan.... If it's not available now it will be at some point, intact Noctua will be making all their fans in black at some point. I have also seen pictures of the nf12a with a black frame and the reddish-brown fan blades which actually looked pretty smart.

The audio editing man! 🧐

I just built my new rig in an R6 a few months ago. I would have really liked the 7 XL. Next time...

@Level1Techs I'm all for 4 USB 3.0 ports but how many motherboards have 2 of the 19? pin header for USB 3.0? My Asus crosshair 7 x470 only has USB 2.0 x2(3) (the book says 3 but the 3rd is only a half 2.0 and is part of a addon card from asus... it has 2) USB 3.0 x1 (19pin?) and a USB Gen 2 plug (type c?) not sure as my Core P5 does not have type C. I think before case company's start putting 4 3.0's or more type C's, Motherboard manufactures are going to have to start adding headers. I had to buy a extra internal USB 2.0 hub because i needed that 3rd plug.

at 10:30 what are those wheels/castors you are using. looks great. I am looking for a set for my Define 7

i was just about to buy the Phantek p600s. Im debating on that now. fractal is looking really good right now

wow Fractal did it again !! It makes my R5 and R6 old school !!

You will need your 5.25" bay for a SD-Card, CFast and external Sata bay. Probably need that when you do youtube and stuff

It can fit 4 times my current SFF build ! Crrrrrazy !

It's about time Fractal started making XL series cases again!

Where to get the wheel mod?

@Level1Techs please tell me you're selling copies of the feet for the caster rollers you made for EposVox... I have a XL and those would be nice being I have it in a cubby next to my desk.

Question regarding build I’m planning: Is the define 7 big enough for a 3090 + eatx (Asus Crosshair Extreme) build? Or should I be looking at the XL?

Would like to see some of these updates in a meshify C2.

Is there a bifurcation cable available for the vertical slots, a x8 to x4,x4 would be quite nice for the bottom slot of a workstation build.

Idea for the case that I'm gonna try with my 7XL (once they finally make it in white): Put a Raspberry Pi onto a multibracket, and fix it where you would usually put a pump/reservoir.

I've just moved from a Define R3 I think to a Meshify C. I miss the sound dampening.

@Kenji1685

4 жыл бұрын

I have a noctua nh-d15 in the meshify C. It's whisper quiet. 👍

@Outland9000

4 жыл бұрын

NF-A12x25 PWM fans... Really good air flow and really quiet. Work well on the case or radiators. The loudest thing in your PC will be the PSU or GPU at that point.

@curiexr8292

4 жыл бұрын

Same, moved my Define R5 to the attic which now works as a NAS and Plex server with Openmediavault. Loving my Meshify C in white.

@parrelium

4 жыл бұрын

賢治 the Eagle not the case fans that are the problem in mine. It’s the GPU fans.

@darkfeign

4 жыл бұрын

​@@parrelium Yep, I think my GPU is a major contributor to the noise. Also the fact that when I have to leave stuff running overnight, the CPU (3900X) is often just peaking at 80 degrees and my motherboard determines that all fans need to max out at 100% when it does so. I'm only using notcua fans, for those that suggested doing so, and I am using an NH-U12A air cooler (the one with the NF-A12x25 fans).

Would msi x570 prestige creation fit in xl size case? I did build it to be quiet 900 and it was too small to that motherboard... the cables were very difficult to route because the motherboard was so wide that it did cover the wire crummets...

Nice case! Would it be possible to do a push pull config with a Corsair h115i pro xt? (4x 140mm fan total) with a 5.25' bay? Thank you guys.

That water leak at 11:25 ;)

My ArcXL is still meeting my needs, but this is tempting for my impending build.

Big boy Threadripper build, you say?? I just happen to have one in mind! I was gonna try to build one in a R6. This is great! Side note, fractals website is getting slammed right now lol. Great job, Wendall and Eposvox!

@PerKroon

4 жыл бұрын

And thought that a Big Boy Threadripper build would be a ITX build.

Very sad that Fractal missed the mark on making enough room for a 360 AIO and its 5.25” bay(s). I use 1 to 2 5.25” bays on my personal and some customer builds. I’m still thinking BQ! Dark Base Pro 900 Rev.2 has the lead in full tower custom building. It’ll replace my 14 year old (the case) P180 build later this month. But saying that I could see doing a custom Fractal 7 XL build. I look forward to watching you guys build this Fractal 7 XL, soon right...like tomorrow...afternoon...?

Here I am one year later looking at building a Threadripper 3970x workstation/server/lab/thing, and since I'm going air cooled, I think I'll go with the meshify version of the XL. EATX mobo and all...

FINALLY NEW XL

I love your content, but you need a set mic!! Please??

I'm doin a new build in the define 7. I'm wanting to get the x570 Aorus Xtreme. Not 100% it'll fit in that case. did the measurements and it should, but wanna know in case I need the xl

That Sunkist lol!

Nice wheels on computer. That is what I need.

How can I get my hands on those schematics for the 3D printed feet for the PC?

Do you think if someone used EK's slim radiators they could clear the drive?

Can't wait for the meshify version though. like what the meshify s2 is to the r6...

Sony cough up The Wall tv I want a review of it!

I don't think I will ever move on from my Define S.

That antec looks siccc

Im planning on buying some Alphacool AIO Eisbaer stuff, speaking of QL watercooling. Check out the Eiswolf GPX for the reference 5700 XT? Eh? Bah ill just get the Eisbaer and a custom GPU block lol

the non XL looks like you could make an eATX or server board fit if you wanted to

I want a case with about 10x 5.25 Inch bays. Great for 3.5 inch hot swap bays.

Are the wheels included in the set Define 7 XL ?

background music bit too much... dropped the Sub a little more tolerable ;) At least I could watch. Ordered Define XL 7 yesterday thought I'd see what info is out there. Be here in couple days.

Hey guys, can you tell whether 2*420 rads can fit front and top of the 7 XL? If yes, which thickness considering the 25 mm thick fans. Thanks a lot for your kind reply

@NewOrderrr

4 жыл бұрын

Fractal's site has good manuals that you can download to see the different mounting options available in their cases. Good for seeing if a case will fit what you need before buying.

Does the case also include the Sunkist?🤔

Hey, don't know if you'll check this, seeing the last comment was 6 months ago. Just wondering you y'all had seen the Anidees AI Crystal XL Pro Lite? Emphasis on the "lite" since it's those changes I found and thought you might find most interesting. It's as if the took the tweaks I thought would make my Define 7 XL better. ESPECIALLY considering the drive trays have been out of stock for months.:/ Specifically the 12 x 5.25" bay mounting and the side fan mount/venting. I'm seriously considering switching and going with something like four of Rosewill's 3 x 5.25" height hot swap bays with the rear 120mm fan mounts, instead of drive trays. Once bitten, twice shy. :D

Is that a Gigabyte TRX40 Aorus Extreme motherboard he is transferring?

Can a 2 x 5.25 bay backplane fit in the XL okay?

One thing i noticed is there's no clear shot of the front with the door open

If I want to mount an AIO at the top, can I still use the solid top cover or will I have to use the top with ventilation?

@Ari_G73

4 жыл бұрын

Mounting an AIO at the top really requires the ventilated top.. otherwise where will it get/expel air from?

Wheel link please?

11:25 was it XL or the regular one?

*Whistles and pushes away my odd drive*

Just got my 7 xl :) How did you guys add the castors?

@Level1Techs

3 жыл бұрын

I 3d printed the adapter. Model is on the forums

i have that bluray drive :D

Do most boards even have two 3.0 ports? IMO 2 of each is the best choice to ensure the end user can at least use them all since most boards should have one 3.0 and one 2.0 no problem.

My pet peeves why does all the case manufactures not line the 24 pin motherboard connector up with a hole in the case? So they all have a twist to them drives me nuts! Overall seems like a nice case. Optical drive back is a nice bonus to have anymore. I still buy Blu-ray to watch through my computer to my TV.

Fuh I need this for my 2990wx Server/Workstation to replace my 750D 5 1/4" bay for my 8x sata ssd hot swap dock room for 18 HDDS

Could've been nice to see a slim 5.25" bay, probably shucked in vertically in the side.

corsair 900D. I've built in a 750D and that case screams I need water cooling. 2.5in bays, no need, double sided tape is your friend.

for the right price i would sell my caselabs th10-- you need an suv to move it...i holds 16 3.5 or 32 2.5 drives and 5 480mm radiators, yes 5 or put in anywhere from 0-14 optical bays and it will hold up to 25 120mm fans., 2 power supplies etc etc...needless to say I have not filled it up

Wendell. the mic!

5.25" bay tube amp!

not seeing where i can buy this case

The perfect case does extist! :O

where can i find the wheels?

@Level1Techs

4 жыл бұрын

Any office chair wheels. Amazon has lots to order

Content 10/10 Audio 7/10 but stil a grat video

They even thought of the reset button? Nice!

Hey Wendell, your mic's muted. Oh, too late.

@Outland9000

4 жыл бұрын

I think he may of not even turned it on... I'm sure he has done this before? 😆

@Level1Techs

4 жыл бұрын

The mic was turned on. The audio was not used because it was worse than it going through EposVox's.

I need that hoodie! No I will not fix your computer! No I will not explain Linux to you! The password is 3Dfx!

I just dark temperd glass Define 7 XL to Replace my R6

give me 20 minutes and cutting implements and i could make that optical drive fit, there's usually empty space inside.

Where can i buy the 3,5 HDD mouting kid?

Tisk tisk, no EposVox in the description.