Check Out The 1950's Hip Roof Framing - How It Was Built Years Ago

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www.homebuildingandrepairs.com Click on this link for more information about roof framing, building design and home repairs. I've been wanting to make a series about homes and other projects that were built years ago and will create a playlist for them and also post links on our website. This is the first one about a 1950's hip roof style home with an eight and 12 pitch. Hope you enjoy the video and don't forget to thumbs up the video.
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  • @whatdoyouthinktho
    @whatdoyouthinktho5 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Helpful for us in office estimators!

  • @mattg7952
    @mattg79523 жыл бұрын

    Cool video. Just finished remodeling my grandpas house built in 55. Standard L just like this. Garage was converted in the 70s. The ceilings didn't hold up very well with the button board and plaster.

  • @prasaddamoder9095
    @prasaddamoder90955 жыл бұрын

    I’ve started learning now. Thanks for the video

  • @gregvancom

    @gregvancom

    5 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome and learning is good.

  • @xXBuckOFiveXx
    @xXBuckOFiveXx5 жыл бұрын

    Very common in older neighborhoods in socal. As an electrician I love these homes because there's usually much more room in the attic than trusses.

  • @gregvancom

    @gregvancom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Larger crawlspaces and attics are definitely nicer to work in.

  • @mikelamonte8094
    @mikelamonte80944 жыл бұрын

    you channel just got me a pay raise, thank you.

  • @gregvancom

    @gregvancom

    4 жыл бұрын

    Now that the first.

  • @bobanyfingelf
    @bobanyfingelf5 жыл бұрын

    awesome video - very interesting; keep posting. ta.

  • @gregvancom

    @gregvancom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching and I am planning on creating some type of video series on how buildings were constructed in the past.

  • @joeleonard2222
    @joeleonard22223 жыл бұрын

    Thanks you.

  • @44godson
    @44godson5 жыл бұрын

    Great vid

  • @gregvancom

    @gregvancom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you and thanks for being one of the first to comment.

  • @chipirrinpdv2003
    @chipirrinpdv20032 жыл бұрын

    great video

  • @gregvancom

    @gregvancom

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the visit

  • @flyingfisch88
    @flyingfisch885 жыл бұрын

    Hey love the videos! How about a 1930s coal house with a hip front porch. Roof structure looks just as high and we are trying to utilize some of the illustrated upstairs areas as a kneewall second floor. The original framing used 2x4s for the ceiling joists between the first floor and attic area. What do you think is the best fix to make that attic space up to today's code? Can you dowel or sister joint that and the kneewall would provide enough support to the roof overhead?

  • @gregvancom

    @gregvancom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Feel free to send me a picture of the type of home you're referring to. I am always looking for different types of homes to re-create. Make sure you visit the website for more information about attic remodeling, I think I have about five or six videos. Let me know if you don't find what you're looking for.

  • @billsalas1558
    @billsalas15585 жыл бұрын

    Great videos. I have a 1950 house with a detached garage. The garage ceiling has 1x6 laying flat that cross at the center and extend all the way to the corners. It appears to be for bracing for square when these houses were being mass produced in my area at the time. Is this required or can it be removed?

  • @gregvancom

    @gregvancom

    5 жыл бұрын

    I've seen this before and think it could be removed as long as you have some type of structural support for the walls to prevent them from moving from left to right. I can't tell you to remove the braces, but can tell you that there are plenty of detached garages that were built and still standing without diagonal ceiling braces. Feel free to send me some pictures of your project for more information and you can get our email address at the website.

  • @HeavyboxesDIYMaster
    @HeavyboxesDIYMaster5 жыл бұрын

    At 2:40 you have bottom chords that are overlapping. What if I cut the chords so they are both half way sitting on the center wall, line them up with each other, then add sister joists that span the joint about 3ft on each side? Then add a few web pieces. Now I have a traditional truss that allows me to remove load bearing weight on the center wall? So basically, what I'm saying is, I want to remove a wall that has some of the chords overlap. The wall is only 8-10' long, so I only have to adjust maybe 4 trusses. Rather than putting up an lvl beam. What are you thoughts?

  • @gregvancom

    @gregvancom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes, you can add additional joist to create a nice rafter tie in the ceiling joists. I don't like the idea of people making their own roof trusses, but I've seen it done on buildings less than 12 feet wide and in areas where it doesn't snow. In other words, it might work on the small shed, but might be a little more difficult on spans longer than 12 feet.

  • @swade3485
    @swade3485 Жыл бұрын

    Informative for me thank you. what about on the hip sides perpendicular to the rafters and ties.they have 1/2 ties (so to speak) and go back and land and end typically on an interior wall. In otherwords the hip rafters perpendicular to the main rafters has short tie backs on top of an interior wall. I imagine this serves same function as rafter ties in keeping the walls up and resisting downward pressure? even though it's not a continues pull from the other side (though your illustrations for example at 9:22 don't show this). Or is that simply a way to allow for drywall? What perplexes me is 1 side of a garage is like that tieing back on top of wall but that was also used for rooms. But on front of garage the hip rafters don't tie back. What keeps the hip side walls in plane then if not that?

  • @gregvancom

    @gregvancom

    Жыл бұрын

    Usually the vertical or lumber bracing that goes up and down like the hip and ridge supports are to prevent that section of the roof from moving down.

  • @randallnelson6695
    @randallnelson66955 жыл бұрын

    As always a great video. I'm wondering if many of these techniques would pass today's building codes? What has changed? What remains the same? Again great video.

  • @gregvancom

    @gregvancom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you and I don't think much of this would pass today's building inspections. Today larger lumber sizes are used and more building hardware like straps and hangers. I don't think much remains the same, because there have been so many changes. You've brought up enough good points that I think it might inspire me to make a video about what actually has changed in the future.

  • @Jordman69

    @Jordman69

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gregvancom I would love to see that video! I’m also very interested in changes in building practices over time

  • @blitzkrieg9414
    @blitzkrieg941410 ай бұрын

    how do i go about raising the ceiling height on one of these?

  • @delroyesprit5457
    @delroyesprit54573 жыл бұрын

    I would like to be come a pro like you thank you so much

  • @gregvancom

    @gregvancom

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's not going to happen overnight, but the key to success is learning so keep learning and hopefully you will be even better than me one day.

  • @khandaddash
    @khandaddash3 жыл бұрын

    What are the long straight vertical braces holding the ridge board called? Is it normal if they are slightly bent?

  • @gregvancom

    @gregvancom

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think I would refer to them as vertical support braces, because in reality they might not be strong enough to be considered ridge support posts. In construction there are multiple names for the same part of the building all around the world, so it can be confusing.

  • @lyrafinnell300
    @lyrafinnell300Ай бұрын

    Hello, how can I add patio on the L area. Mine is exactly like it. I find it very complicated.

  • @ananda75413
    @ananda754132 жыл бұрын

    please make videos about "well" hipped roof, I can't find anything about it not even on google, the house was build in 1900 in rural South Australia

  • @gregvancom

    @gregvancom

    2 жыл бұрын

    You should check out our website. In the home building section, you will find framing and on that page a link to roof framing. If not, then I would need more details about what you're looking for.

  • @AWSmith1955
    @AWSmith19553 жыл бұрын

    The ceiling joist offset in that 30 foot deep room could have been avoided with a flush ceiling header and joists bearing on a 5/4 x 3 or 2x2 ledger strip since they didn't have joist hangars in the fifties.

  • @mcame80

    @mcame80

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just butt the ceiling joists in the center and use a 4' long splice piece. Not sure about your method. But a ledger strip would make a weird finish detail inside the room wouldn't it? Also the ceiling joists need to be attached in such as way as to keep the exterior walls from pushing out from the pressure from rafters. Nails in shear are better than nails in pull out.

  • @jamesoncross7494
    @jamesoncross74945 жыл бұрын

    Cool video. Would it l [k good if the 2 ridges meet so there were even?

  • @gregvancom

    @gregvancom

    5 жыл бұрын

    It might actually provide you with more structural strength if the ridges were the same height, but in order to keep the same angle or roof pitch, the garage would need to be the same width as the home.

  • @jamesoncross7494

    @jamesoncross7494

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@gregvancom nice. I like it when things line up. Looks like it was an after thought when they dont. Even if you had to change pitches, I think it looks better.

  • @gregvancom

    @gregvancom

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think realistically it would be a personal preference, but I like it when things line up also.

  • @phipgorman5677
    @phipgorman567711 ай бұрын

    How do you calculate the hip rafter that comes down to the valley

  • @gregvancom

    @gregvancom

    10 ай бұрын

    I don't have a video yet, but put your suggestion on my list of future videos.

  • @tchornomud
    @tchornomud5 жыл бұрын

    Everything makes sense except for the blocking at rafter bottoms...How is attic venting gonna work with that blocked off?

  • @gregvancom

    @gregvancom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Trust me, there are other things that might not make sense also and this was only meant to be an example for some homes, but not all homes built in the 1950s with a hip roof. Good point about the vent blocks and they would have worked great with dormer vents.

  • @user-ni7zc3vy2q

    @user-ni7zc3vy2q

    2 жыл бұрын

    Probably two gable vents on both ends

  • @user-ni7zc3vy2q

    @user-ni7zc3vy2q

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also those mushroom vents are usually used in the attic for Ventalation. My attic sucks but that's all the Ventalation I have

  • @Uncle_Buzz
    @Uncle_Buzz5 жыл бұрын

    Back when dimensional lumber was actual dimensions.

  • @gregvancom

    @gregvancom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes you got that right and here's a video you might be interested in. kzread.info/dash/bejne/hpyutaaCYNbbfdo.html

  • @gongabrahma7547
    @gongabrahma75475 жыл бұрын

    How much money I have to be spent to built this beautiful lucky house tell please.

  • @gregvancom

    @gregvancom

    5 жыл бұрын

    You would need to contact a contractor in your area for an estimate. I do not provide estimates, sorry.

  • @owiepeterosaigbovo3654
    @owiepeterosaigbovo36543 жыл бұрын

    Eight side

  • @jwsimmons2558
    @jwsimmons25582 жыл бұрын

    is it possible to vault a roof like this?

  • @gregvancom

    @gregvancom

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes and I think I have a video at our website in the roof framing or roof remodeling section.

  • @msconduct10
    @msconduct105 жыл бұрын

    So, if you wanted to vault a roof like this, is that a crazy ask? Seems like it might be simpler than with a truss roof?

  • @gregvancom

    @gregvancom

    5 жыл бұрын

    It would be difficult to tell whether or not a truss roof or a conventionally framed roof would be better to convert to a vaulted ceiling, without knowing the design. It can be done, but it will require a lot of work and quite possibly lowering the exterior walls to make room for the larger rafters if you want to keep the top of the existing roof the same height. Let me know if it doesn't make sense and I have already made a few other videos about converting flat ceilings to vaulted one's, if you haven't watched them yet, go to the main index page on the website and you should find a link to our playlists. Click on the link and then there should be one on roof framing repairs.

  • @msconduct10

    @msconduct10

    5 жыл бұрын

    That does make sense (or as much sense as it needs to make to me). The room we're looking to vault is our converted garage that's exactly like you have in this video. Built in 1960. Thanks for these videos! They're great!

  • @tchornomud

    @tchornomud

    5 жыл бұрын

    keyword there is "larger rafters"

  • @dougtilaran3496
    @dougtilaran34962 жыл бұрын

    Butt the joists . Two 16 footers. Use 6 x 18 or 24" 1/4 inch thick metal and carriage bolts/ Problem solved WARNING : Only do=able in countried that sell 2 x 6 that are 2 x 6 inches. Homeless depot can't help

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