Loved the thumbnail; Russ channeling his inner Blink-182 😂

I got the Showa Atlas 460 last winter to shovel and dig out my car - I love them. Gotta give them a try on a cold ride. Will probably pick up a pair of these

For winter commuting in Seattle, in 40F and raining, these are the go-to glove. My friend Dan was the 'discoverer' of these many years ago at the local fisheries supply store. He bought them for climbing in Patagonia. Buying one size up and then putting thin liners in them is another way to up the performance. They are not that breathable but they are noticeably better than the non 'Temres' version. There is a version that looks identical but does not say Temres on the back. Don't get those.

I love the idea of a "glove system", and have been using that concept for over a decade now: Cheap, $5.00/pair military surplus wool gloves on the inside and some old, oversized Pearl Izumi "Zephyr" glove shells to fit over them ... just a shell, no insulation. P.I., sadly, stopped making these glove shells ages ago, so I have been re-sewing the seams as-needed to keep them going... so, this is timely: thinking a pair of the Model 281s are in my future ... All told, it's a great system for brevets and the usual daily temperature swings. The key is oversizing the outer layers to prevent circulation issues, few people mentioned that below. One thing to consider adding: the "Snot Spot".... clever little nose-wipe fleece that loops over the index finger and wrist to provide a place to, uhh, you know... dab that inevitable winter-time nasal activity.

Those are commercial fishing gloves. You can buy them on Amazon, farm stores, fishing places, etc. My scuba diving drysuit gloves are made of those. The are NOT breathable, at all. Water is a better thermal conductor than air, which is why your hands get cold when sweaty/wet. The best thing to do is to carefully cut out the liner and then you have a way to dry them if they get wet.

Started using these for ice climbing with a base glove underneath and they are perfect when the ice is dripping. Never thought of using them on the bike, but will.

I use these gloves land yachting in the winter and are the best gloves I have used in the winter, warm, hard wearing and dry. There major bonus is you do not suffer from wind chill air, as air a 50mph just not warming.

Luv the “reasonable facsimile”. Also, a shower cap is handy... Don’t forget a 32-gallon clear garbage bag (almost paper thin) with holes cut out for head and arms - looks great over your $200 leaking rain jacket!

I love the glove alternative episode. I like full finger gloves and discovered the Mechanix gloves work great as cool to borderline cold weather gloves. I like the hi-viz yellow and orange ones. And, they are only around $10-$15!

Have used the 281 over a fleece liner for winter backpacking for years. Excellent product.

Spot on Russ! I started many, many years ago sailing in the winter (frostbiting), 20-40deg F, with the lined version and found the same issue with sweating, then getting cold. Also the lined ones are very difficult to fully dry afterwards. The unlined ones with a separate thin liner, dry much better and with a thinner liner, your hands will sweat less.

bought a pair of defeet wool liners a bunch of years ago to go inside dishwashing gloves for those rare times of cold rainy rides, 0c-10c , and as you say about the linerless versions of these Japanese gloves, this type of combo works well for really gross and cold wet weather, as the wool keeps your hands warm. Ive ridden for hours and hours with this setup and it certainly saved my hide (and fingers) from getting so cold that it would have been hard to shift and brake.

You might be able to get a similar glove, exterior-wise, from a farm supply store. I bought my gloves from such a place 15 years ago so I could wash my bike in the winter and they’re still going strong. I never thought about using them for riding! Mine are from Wells Lamont. They have a PVC coating (in a darker blue) and have the textured surface on the hands like the fishing gloves, and the inside is lined with a simple clothlike layer so they wouldn’t be as warm/hot as the fishing gloves. The cuff is really long and opens up like a dishwashing glove.

Really curious to see this. Showa industrial gloves, adding a knit liner, have been stirring up the hiking community for near winter travel in snow.

Note to Russ: If you wear your waterproof gloves over your sleeves, it doesn't matter if they are waterproof or not, because eventually the water on your rain jacket sleeve is going to drip inside into your gloves. You have to tile your clothing. Rain jacket sleeves over the gloves' hem. Pants' hems over your shoes. Jacket hem over your rain pants. I learnt this reading Dennis Coelho's book on bike touring. I haven't found a suitable waterproof cold weather glove that you can easily tuck under your jacket sleeves. But, at least, I have a rain jacket with large sleeves (no elastic) that make it easier to do so. I have design parameters for my ideal glove in mind and if I ever learn to sew....

Smurf Blue!!! Love you Russ!! Keep Safe xx

Great video, thanks Russ

Andrew Skurka and Alan Dixon recommend these gloves. Used by Japanese fishermen

Subbed because of the dishwasher glove tip!

I have a pair of "work gloves" that are basically the same as that I purchased from a local farm supply store for about $10 that I used for rainy wintertime commutes. Definitely dry, but eventually you will sweat very badly in them.

this is... FREAKING GENIUS 👍

I use some Craftsman winter work gloves, and they work great, though the PU coating is starting to wear thin in some places, but at $10 I cant find a better value.

There are also gloves that are used in the construction industry that closely resemble those. Worth folks checking around. I find the biggest killer for my hands is wind. I had some gloves I thought were warm enough but the wind cut right through them and my fingers went numb. So you need both insulation and a windbreaker.

It seems there's a variation of these type of gloves for every situation. I just bought a pair of "extreme cold winter fleece working gloves" off of Amazon for throwing my dog her ball early in the morning so I don't get cold, slobbery hands. Great, thick gloves with very warm fleece inside and rubberized waterproof outer. And I couldn't help but wonder, 'would these work for cycling?' I tend to bike in more comfortable conditions here in NorCal, so no- too hot for my riding stylek. But I wish I had seen this video beforehand- those gloves may just be the perfect balance of biking and ball throwing (:

Check out Showa's newer Temres 01Winter or Temres 02Winter. Black with a closable wrist. Hard to find in the US.

When you mentioned the conditions it'd be good for I thought "so, Portland?" and then you said it. I've been using Showers Pass gloves for years (in part on your recommendation) but I recently switched to these on Andrew Skurka's recommendation (a famous thru hiker) and I kind of love them. They're super bulky and weird looking and the cuffs are annoying, but they were $10 with shipping. I'll deal.

I tried a pair of scuba diving gloves once. They were too small so they didn’t work for me but I think they are another option for the wet/cold rides.

Dang. Shopping time. It rains 55" a year here in VA.

Love the video! Could you use moisture wicking liners inside a dishwashing glove for warm and waterproofing? Like the cheap DIY instead of pricey biking winter gloves.

@industryrule-4080

3 жыл бұрын

That was my first thought about dishwashing gloves.

I rode in something similar, with a cotton lining, they would get soaked from sweat and were hard to dry.

How was the fit of the 282s? I normally wear a size L in gloves, but based on Amazon reviews considering buying XLs. Did you think they ran small?

What's your thoughts about heated gloves?

Similar to Glacier gloves. People even in cold areas should still try it and try to keep the sweat warm. If your riding harder than "party pace" the sweat will probably stay warm even when cold.

These look good, Ive been using kayaking gloves for a few years here in Sandpoint. They work well and keep my hands dry.

What gloves do you usually use? Summer gloves? New to cycling and most local shops have limited selection.

Let me add another cheap alternative for those cold but dry days. We buy expensive gloves made for winter riding and always still manage to have cold hands. There's a simple reason for this and it's moisture. Your hands perspire a lot with exercise and in no time at all your glove lining is damp and getting colder by the minute. Buy yourself a costco sized box of quality nitrile gloves and put on a pair to use as a vapor barrier inside of your lobster claws or what have you. You'll still sweat but your gloves lining will stay dry and continue to insulate as designed. Even if there's wind coming in at the seams with dry liners my hands stay warm longer.

How about ice fishing gloves?

I just discovered winter boating/kayak gloves. Waterproof neoprene. Available at REI

@SteveK6470

3 жыл бұрын

Are the waterproof neoprene warm? I was thinking of neoprene socks as well since my feet always get cold when biking in winter months.

@kenyates7269

3 жыл бұрын

@@SteveK6470 They are. Re: socks, have you tried the Showerspass WP socks? I have and they are great, breathable somehow. I think because they are also made with merino wool.

That looks like gloves also used in drysuit scuba diving or chemical lab safety equipment, except it is without the liner

How is buying a pair of multi purpose gloves considered a "hack"? I guess I don't understand the implication of the work "hack" in this scenario.

What bar bag is on the Poseidon in this video?

@PathLessPedaledTV

3 жыл бұрын

Swift Zeitgeist.

Showa make good quality PPE. I use their gloves at work (U.K.), tho’ sadly not this design 🖐

@jkl0ps

3 жыл бұрын

Haha yeah, I've been wearing Showa Atlas 300s for YEARS professionally. Tried using them for various outdoor activities, but they never really worked out. I've got a couple pairs of the 282s coming my way and I have a very strong feeling that they are the answer to the backcountry skiing "glove problem" I've been trying to solve for a while now.

They're a little Dr. Nefario ish.

The only truly waterproof glove?

shred trails not whales

4:28 :)

Say Chrome. Best purchase. They’re $30 but worth it.

@lukeholloway7836

3 жыл бұрын

Those look pretty cool

$1 dish washing glove + $1 wool glove combo...

@PathLessPedaledTV

3 жыл бұрын

.50 dish washing gloves + .50 wool glove combo

@PathLessPedaledTV

3 жыл бұрын

Better yet . 25 washing glove + .25 wool glove FTW!

Well Decathlon sells cheaper gloves actually meant for cycling which are also very much better than these

@PathLessPedaledTV

3 жыл бұрын

I bet the Decathalon glove isn't waterproof which is the WHOLE POINT of this glove and video. And I also bet that Decathalon glove isn't used by ice climbers. Of course there is always something cheaper. I bet you could go on Alibaba and find something cheaper than the cheap thing you found on Decathalon. And you could go to a thrift store or ebay and find something cheaper still. Maybe even dumpster dive and find something free!

@anant6778

3 жыл бұрын

@@PathLessPedaledTV Look here - I'm interested in civil conversation. Obviously the absurd remarks on dumpster diving and ice climbing , I _sincerely hope_ , are intentional and wantonly ridiculous _hyperbole_ . The title of the video clearly states : "Best Cheap Cycling Gloves ?" and I have to say, *$20 really isn't cheap* . Nor are these , by any stretch of the imagination, even _good enough_ for _any_ major criteria of cycling gloves. Being waterproof is hardly one. Besides, given the broad nature of the title, it is fair game to criticise for much more than their level of waterproofness. The Decathlon Gloves are actually quite comfortable, given they have gel inserts and well placed padding. Of course, I speak from experience, just as you do in your videos. They *aren't* _waterproof_ , but grip is mostly excellent, even when wet, which is slightly more important than keeping dry when _intentionally_ partaking in _outdoor activity_ in the wet. Also less likely to be torn up in a crash because they are tougher on the underside while being thinner on the upper so they don't cause me to sweat buckets. Did I also mention they look objectively less ugly ? Cant call something the _best cheap abc for xyz_ if its isn't evem remotely good as other cheaper products at _xyz_ . LOL.

@ks-pg5sh

2 жыл бұрын

@@anant6778 - Discussion of what might be classified as beautiful or ugly, is subjective, not objective. If you're going to hold Russ accountable for using, "cheap", you should hold yourself to the same standard. $20 won't make a difference to some, and might mean the world to someone else. As for beauty...your standard would certainly be different from plenty of others out there. You may have been here for civil conversation, but your original comment doesn't come across that way.