The Chinese machine with a enclosed cab is a great deal for a gentlemen farmer but if you need the machine for work everyday the Yanmar is probably worth the investment.

You have the best channel for heavy equipment content, incredibly funny and informative at the same time.

Make sure to give this a like and follow! its totally FREE and helps me out a lot!

@troyweyerstrass7312

Жыл бұрын

Great video! Subscribed. We’ve literally just been talking about this very thing.

A narrow and deep bucket would make a huge difference on the cheap excavator

Loving this comparison. Greetings from Springfield Missouri 🤘

Hell yeah finally the full video!

@dig_it_starnes5222

Жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoyed

There's a lot of videos on Chinese equipment out there. I like this one because you've done a fair comparison between a quality machine and a budget Chinese excavator. Most guys who buy those Chinese loaders and diggers are DIY'ers and homeowners who don't use the equipment daily in a commercial setting.

@TheAefril

4 ай бұрын

Exactly right!

The skinnier bucket will slice into the ground much easier; this was not a real digging comparison between machines, only the buckets. Swap buckets then see how it goes.

@Ful-OGold

Ай бұрын

The Chinese machine was labouring fairly hard when trying to break out but that could be the bucket as well. Either way it’s still a very capable machine. For the price it sure beats hiring one all the time.

Great video very well made keep it up

Great video yet again love it man so glad u got a big one to try out

Ive loved useing the yanmar as a rental for our projects. That said, we are considering buying the Agro so we can spread out jobs and not be in such a rush. Looks like a solid platform. That said, def agree with the yanmar quality. Operating without pump whine and stable movement. The more expensive systems purr like a smooth cat. Also love the coke bottle layout vs obese tub o lard. But at less than half price and intermittent use its hard to complain about agro.

I’ve owned a yanmar for 11 years the best small tractor for the money. Work horse. Sips fuel. Thanks from. Sc

tbh for alot of usecases and applications, the chinese one is a no brainer for 15k. thats some value, especially if you can add aircon ;D

It's not about speed or towing on a jobsite, but price point and excavating power or lift

Im gonna have to sub to this channel😂. Keep them coming i cant wait for the next one👍👍👍

This past spring i was in the position of either buying a brand new chinese 3 ton or a 20 year old Kobelco 3 ton and decided to go with the Kobelco. I know theres parts available and the chinese quality is just not there yet. i have putchased chinese attachments in the past and have always spent money on repairs or having to get parts custom machined to work.

@Ful-OGold

Ай бұрын

I’m at these cross roads as well. Chinese parts are relatively cheap compared to big brand machines. Imagine replacing a track motor on a Chinese one vs kubota or cat ect. $600 for a Chinese one and it would be at least a few thousand for the latter.

Just posted a video of my Chinese mini excavator paired up with the TMK 150 tree sheer! Crazy how productive you can make a cheap machine!

I think the china unit has a fixed displacement pump, so it's just fast all the time. If it had a variable displacement pump like every other machine. I think it'll give that yanmar a run for its money... But it's built at a price point.

Great test! Moar!

Hmm so by going with the Yanmar I can save about 10 seconds when digging a shallow grave. Good to know, good to know 🤫

@keithsand2573

10 ай бұрын

That wasn't even fair. It's like running the wrong end of a spoon through a bucket of ice cream vs the shovel end of the spoon. Most people that have multiple buckets for a full size or mini hoe could tell you a trenching bucket is easier on the pumps. The only real benefit I see is stability and traction.

@charlisendit9353

7 ай бұрын

How much extra you paying for that 5 seconds got me messed up lol. Have fun with that

@jleighgod8149

7 ай бұрын

buy American dont be a trader

@8SecSleeper

6 ай бұрын

​@@jleighgod8149look up the nearly half a billion a 1/4 US steel mills are profiting. Then come back and say that.

@moctezumaaleg2008

6 ай бұрын

@@jleighgod8149 You mean “USA made “ even then most parts aren’t even made in USA

for extra pulling power you want as much weight to the back of the machine for as much advantage as possible. you also risk flipping over backwards, but thats the balance. Also you V tread was the wrong direction for best traction. Great video though

If it takes 30 seconds to dig half a hole, how long does it take to dig a whole hole?

How much would it cost to retrofit the Chinese excavators (small and bigger one) with new hydraulic hoses with quick release fittings?

Can I ask if you know how to get to the battery?

Pump is made by same co. as most, Eaton. I have one.

At least your a pro and not some.....( Insert description here). And have practical knowledge of trenching and dirt work. Love the channel

Great info, means alot for us China machine buyers! Thx

Even the cheap one is too expensive for me 😂but with that sorta money I’d deffo buy a modern tractor

The cheap digger sounds like it’s about to stall out every time it takes a scoop. The Yama has a constant rev when digging

Im shocked you only have 10k subs. Your channel will blow up with content like this

@dig_it_starnes5222

Жыл бұрын

I hope so man! glad you like it

I look at it... If buying brand new if people have 50K to spend then yammer would be the way to go.. but if not then maybe the 15K is the way to go and Perkins engine is a good motor I had farm tractors with the same motor and here it is over 30 years later and they are still running very strong... And on any thing anyone buys there's always room for improvement to make it way better....

great video man. made me laugh a few times. Im seriously interested in buying a machine from china. I'm looking at a 4 Ton excavator. Im up in the great white north here in Canada but id imagine the prices would be similar. what are you all in after imports and buying it from the factory?

@ProbeGT2

Жыл бұрын

Look at UHI brand, i went to see them in person and they are the best looking chinese diggers. They really are the highest quality of them. I ordered a UME12P. They are a little pricier than the generic chineese but i think they're worth it.

(A lot of times) If you're *just digging dirt* and *not lifting* a heavy load, it's better to have the *blade at the back;* ..to get that *dig force* and not pop the front end up every time :-)

@cyumadbrosummit3534

9 ай бұрын

That's not been my experience at all.

Perfect ❤

$15,000 vs $50,000 - no need to go any further.

@Ful-OGold

Ай бұрын

Plus parts for these Chinese machines are way cheaper than any big brand machines

Great comparison! Now let’s see you add some air conditioning on that Chinese mini! I went at looked at the same excavator at Richie bros auction in Tipton and the headliner had fallen down on that one too 😂

Yanmar is definitely not an "off-brand", like you said.

Love Yanmar!!

Very surprised they couldn't pull the truck.

It would have been interesting to see if you put both facing the truck and the blade down and then used the stick/boom/bucket curl to see if either one would have pulled the truck forward.

Im curious about how that Ali Express unit you gave away compares. lol

@mmmalensek5791

Жыл бұрын

He did a video on comparing those two already

@dig_it_starnes5222

Жыл бұрын

Did a video!kzread.info/dash/bejne/k3yHy7mQgs-ZlLg.html

Can the pumps be replaced on the Chinese machine, and if so, how much approximately to replace them?

@5.43v

3 ай бұрын

Standard Eaton pump

I found a hitachi zx60 with a cutting blade and cab for 15,000 dollars, this is shipping, insurance, and freight. The machine is 54 hp, and weighs 6 tons. Low hours in good shape. Is this a good deal? It ships out of china

@clubberlang5593

8 ай бұрын

Is it legit? A lot of stuff is counterfeit in China.. Great price but make sure it's real

Great video! Does the cheap one have heat and ac with cab? I still would prefer the cheaper one only because I would use it around my mini farm and I don’t count my time. Because time is money when you use them for your business

The Yanmar dug effortlessness. I could hear the other one straining when digging. A very nice machine, but wow 50K new? For wow, for the price difference the smaller one wasn’t all that bad. But how long would it last also would be extremely important. Nice video!

@reverandhale863

Жыл бұрын

Yanmar also had a narrower bucket which makes it easier to pull through the ground

@stevefarms7494

10 ай бұрын

If buying Chinese 15K one after you get it as lots of people do is buy after market stuff to make improvements to make it better Perkins engine are good motors my dad had farm tractors that had Perkins engine in them and over 30 years later they are still running very strong

@aronhorvath6518

9 ай бұрын

Well! Longevity depends on many factors. The Chinese stuffs like this machine runs for around 3 years and then off to the scrap yard. On the other hand, if you have extra parts and a proper mechanic service from the company that you bought it from, then you can make it work longer actually. Although, as I said, it all depends. My mate when he started off his gardening/landscaping company, he bought a cheap Chinese machine, and then bought a used Jcb from the profit of that. The most important aspects are service and spare parts!!

Yanmar is absolutely NOT an offbrand. They have probably better engines than Kubota and I own Kubota stuff. I plan to get an Yanmar SV40 in the coming months,

i would have to say Kubota and Hitachi are my favorite

you started the cheap one pulling the truck where the other 1 stopped been able to pull it

You know if you swap few parts the china ones work great for about 90% for what most people will use them for

Nante?

I like how he always speak equally and give them a fair opinion!!

JCB make a really nice digger with brilliant hydraulic package but maybe not going to the US.😊

I've heard it said that the Japanese focus on quality and the Chinese focus on reducing the cost as much as possible.

The Yanmar isn't $30,000 better...

50k vs 15 K ! i will take 15 k for DIY projects ! My local dealer wants 24 k for same Chinese exc

Iv ran the yanamar an I told super to haul it to the scrap. Could pick nothing up very weak

The Yanmar appears to have a bigger bucket which would move more material in the same time .

It’s not even a question if your contracting . The down time on that Chinese machine when running it 9 hrs a day would be horrendous. Chinese one would be ok for the weekend warrior .

as the old saying goes , compare apples to apples . not oranges to lemons. but for me and my little place the Chinese would do just great.

Well....similar in specs but looks like your kidneys stayed intact on the yanmar. Did you enjoy the bronc ride on the chinexcavator?😅

How much did you actually pay for the unit and where did you buy? Thank you!

@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb

Жыл бұрын

Think he said $14K at auction. Can buy from the distributor for $19K. They are putting these on auction around the country - saw one sell for $10K and another as high as $21K, with median around $16K (need to add in buyer's premium for auction prices). Even at $19K+tax, I think they may make sense for small ranch/homestead. But at $20K, you are getting close to used prices for older name-brand machines (maybe $25K range). Personally, I'd pay more to find a good used name-brand - they are so much more precise/user-friendly than Chinese stuff (better hydraulic pumps/motors/valves/design).

The snaller excavator are not like thr bigger one. Use the boom an stick along with the bucket. Insted just curling the bucket like you done with chinese one. In my opinion they have there advantages but both are weak. An you have a bigger bucket on the chinese one so its going make the surface area plowing in a lil harder verse a smaller bucket.

Did you call locates in before you dug? Safety first, lol

Iam sure the chain drive system creates slop in the movement.

I mean the bucket is half the size on the cheapo one so not really equal is it

For 35k you could buy yourself a decent used truck and trailer to haul it, maybe a case of beer too

Great video comparison. This may help the Chinese manufacturing to up its parts and quality, and companies ie @Yanmar to reduce theirs as more and more of these imports flood the U.S/Canadian/worldwide market.

diesel creek intro , anyone else notice that?

Yanmar are in all of the sub 50hp class John Deere tractors. Surprised anyone would try to knock a product with decades of reliability.

Both need More Cowbell!

@derekbutts1782

Жыл бұрын

Lmao

@darrylgenet7213

9 ай бұрын

Everything needs more cowbell

Caterpillar is not running Perkins anymore. My 259d3 has a Kubota

@dig_it_starnes5222

Жыл бұрын

they use to a lot in the multi terrain loaders. apparently the 3.3 Kubota has noting but problems with CAT and Tak machines

@4rubberzaday

Жыл бұрын

@@dig_it_starnes5222 They are absolute turds that’s for sure. My 262b gets used more than the 259d. Should have got a skid with the yanmar but I’ve never had anything outside of CAT and JLG

More expensive wins. It's obvious because it cost 3 times more. But... is it 3 times better than cheap one?

try popular chinese brands Liugong, Sany, XCMG, SDLG

Ive watched every one of these chinese tractor videos youve done. Are the name brand ones better? Of course! Are they 3 times better??? Im thinking not... Especially not for the diy just likes to play woth giant toys kinda guy like me...

All you gotta do is lower the acceleration and you would have better control on the cheap one 😂

They put the loop on the back of the bucket for a reason

@dig_it_starnes5222

Жыл бұрын

There isn’t one on the Chinese mini. Was trying to keep it fair

Can you compare LiuGong with Yanmar?

I think ill stick with my Komatsu equipment. Komatsu equipment is by far the smoothest strongest dozers and hoes on the market in my opinion. I would take a Komatsu dozer over any brand period. By far the best dozers. That yanmar does look alot like a Komatsu mini.

Here me out here, if size and weight was exact I think china would have kept up with those test. Now as far as the pull test, the tread on china was running backwards. I almost wonder if it would have done it or broke. Lol

Takeuchi used to run yanmar engines and were dead nuts reliable but then the feds and there exhaust laws hit and they swapped to kubota engines.... just not the same machines since then...

There's no way that thing make 25 hp. The yanmar engine, supposedly lower hp, dig harder and never ever bog down.

@dig_it_starnes5222

Жыл бұрын

the Perkins does. Very high reving compared to the Yanmar. The bogging has to do with the type, and quality of hydraulic pumps. Better designs and higher torque pumps can do more with less

Let’s put a JCB To the test

would need back surgery after owning the china one. like to see how many repairs would have to be done after a few thousand hours.

Little biased but good video but you put the same bucket on both then you get same results but for a regular guy the Chinese wins hands down

yanmar is great

How about use them for 10 years and then do a comparison.

AGT What is the company?

@t.p.9232

Жыл бұрын

Agrotk is the same I believe.

@GOPHERS_PC10

Жыл бұрын

@@t.p.9232 ？

@t.p.9232

Жыл бұрын

@@GOPHERS_PC10 AGT is also sold under the name "Agrotk"

@GOPHERS_PC10

9 ай бұрын

​@@t.p.9232ok

I like Yanmar and Takeuchi better than cat, bobcat and John Deere.

10 seconds difference 😂

So 3 to one ratio

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50k = 3 machines 😂 no thank

yanmar is far from offbrand. they make all the deere motors

Yanmar is the best for your money. The very best is Deere. Between the machines shown, the Yanmar is the only machine I would spend money on.

Deere minis are 1000000% Hitachi machines built in Japan.

@dig_it_starnes5222

Жыл бұрын

Not anymore. Their contract ended. I believe wacker neuson will make the frames starting soon

@rontopping2048

Жыл бұрын

@@dig_it_starnes5222 my dealer hasn't heard anything on that yet. Still have Hitachi/deere on the lot. Wacker cant even keep up with there own manufacturing. I would never purchase anything other than minis built in Japan. Us builds junk . Sad but true

@rontopping2048

Жыл бұрын

@@dig_it_starnes5222 doesn't mean anything. Every deere machine built to date is Hitachi. Contract ended yes but deere still purchasing from Hitachi. I did hear about wacker a while back haven't seen anything. And if deere designed there own larger lines not going to happen over night .

@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb

Жыл бұрын

​@@dig_it_starnes5222 Pity, Japan revolutionized modern excavators with precise controls and much-higher pressures. They ran rings around the 215/225/235/245 Cat stuff at 75% of the price. Cat threw in the towel after a few years and partnered with Mitsubishi to learn how to build a modern excavator. We bought a new grey market Cat EL200B- came with a Mitsubishi engine for about half what Cat wanted for the exact same (except Cat-powered) machine sold domestically. The Mitsubishi engine was fantastic - quiet/fuel-efficient and zero problems.

@killstrees

9 ай бұрын

​@@dig_it_starnes5222those are for markets outside the US. Theyre still Hitachi until Deere has their own design up and going

The review already started with a bias. 😂

Gotta consider yanmar had smaller bucket easier to dig in compacted ground and just wondering how much you have used a yanmar like that one and how much you have on the one....more experience on the yanmar would go to the reason some of the ease of operation....kinda sound biased

You might prefer yanmar over bobcat,,,but it is still an off brand machine....

@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb

Жыл бұрын

Korea's Doosan bought Bobcat - I'd take Japanese-built Yanmar's vs Korean-built Bobcat's.

5000usd,come to me

I'll take the cheaper one and sell it three months before the warranty expires, using the thirty grand I saved to spend on marketing and miscellaneous tools.

@dig_it_starnes5222

Жыл бұрын

there is no warranty