I heard a rumor that Sam's Train will not pin this comment

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

I heard that too - silly rumours!! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@therealvbw

3 жыл бұрын

Sam's train won't but sam's trains has

@fastoutnotforkids7192

3 жыл бұрын

@@therealvbw lol. Yep! XD

@vincentmorris8431

3 жыл бұрын

The Fat Controller laughed "well they're wrong, and you shouldn't listen to rumors

@Mikewastaken152

3 жыл бұрын

I heard another rumor that my channel will never reach 1k subscribers

“It makes the loco look like it’s suffering, and that brings me joy”

@crucialcustard7668

3 жыл бұрын

That made me laughing

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha!! xD

@jakeandzack5763

3 жыл бұрын

Where does he say that?

@TRRailfan

3 жыл бұрын

@@jakeandzack5763 near the end, when he runs all 3 locos at the same time

@jordandoestrains

3 жыл бұрын

It Is Said that too this day, it still is a horrible model train

Hello Sam! As a German steam train enthusiast it’s very easy to tell when a locomotive is a model/ modelled after a German steam loco, all German steam locomotives have red wheels and mostly red body, they are also HUGE locos in real life

@bartbed2570

Жыл бұрын

Same with Polish locomotives.

@philiplokodi6754

Жыл бұрын

In particular this is a PKP(Polish Railways) Version of the German(DRG/DR/DB) Class 24 in Poland they called it the Oi2 Class of Locomotives

My son modifies some cheap train's to run for Hornby tracks by watching you're videos we are proud of you Sam for making my son a little engineer👍👍

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear that!! Well done him for learning those new skills! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@rupalibhuyar4744

2 жыл бұрын

@@SamsTrains you ⁹

@freddyfazbearsgamingymas6722

2 жыл бұрын

Your* not you're *G R A M M A R*

@kiwitrainguy

2 жыл бұрын

@@freddyfazbearsgamingymas6722 Usually people get it the other way round.

Me: "I'd really like to see Sam review a German steam engine!" *finger on the monkey's paw curls*

@CounterCraftYT

3 жыл бұрын

But this eample is Polish

@diedertspijkerboer

3 жыл бұрын

@@CounterCraftYT If this loco is based on the one Sam Googled it's actually originally a German locomotive that stayed in Poland after the war.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha, guessing this wasn't what you had in mind? I might seriously try a proper German (or Polish) engine one day though! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@Taschenschieber

3 жыл бұрын

@@CounterCraftYT German-built, stayed in Poland after WWII. Which was fairly common and got many nations in continental Europe some amount of ex-German vehicles. The Class 24 in particular was built for traffic from Berlin towards East Prussia during the... 1920es I think.

@Taschenschieber

3 жыл бұрын

@Iain Botham Märklin / Trix (depending on if you want AC or DC) would be the market leader.

Piko keep this locomotive and the Tank Engine Version in their Hobby Range - I believe the owner stated it is important to have motive power that are affordable to younger modellers - they retail at £31/£36

5:37 it has the Polish eagle on the side of the locomotive and tender so it was definitely used in Poland

If I asked for a model train for Christmas, this is what my parents would get me...XD

@filipthetrainguy4723

3 жыл бұрын

Welp....

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha, you'd better double check that ASAP! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@SuperJacob2006

3 жыл бұрын

@@filipthetrainguy4723 Hello Buddy Old Pal

@filipthetrainguy4723

3 жыл бұрын

@@SuperJacob2006 ?

@airworks7809

2 жыл бұрын

I got this exact engine for Christmas when i was a kid.

if it was £20 id buy it, could make a nice little project , £44 is to much for this loco . great vid sam : )

@allie-873

3 жыл бұрын

If you were to buy this loco, buy it from the actual manufacturer, Piko: it's way cheaper, 36,88 pounds and you get the actual packaging

@p674mle2

3 жыл бұрын

@@allie-873 at thanks for the info : )

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah sure, I think £20 would be much better!! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@robofbarnes

3 жыл бұрын

@@allie-873 And there's an even cheaper tank engine option.

@jerryspann8713

3 жыл бұрын

It probably only cost 1 pound to make it. Just a plastic molded shape, which probably cost 20 pence and a 50 pence motor. Cheap and nasty. The only reason they can sell it at all is because it is sold as a "model train." If you put wheels and a motor on a dried up dog turd and called it a locomotive, could you sell if for 50 pounds?

"That horrible offensive moustache - cut that down!" Somehow, it became MORE offensive. I did Nazi see that coming.

@mordomarty

3 жыл бұрын

XD

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha, fortunately I can't do a good German accent! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@Taggart00

3 жыл бұрын

@@SamsTrains It was Charlie Chaplin's mustache first

@miked6335

3 жыл бұрын

@@Taggart00 and Oliver Hardy's. El Cheapo now looks like one of the Keystone Cops to me.

@alehmaleh01883

3 жыл бұрын

@@SamsTrains it's easy Just always talk with a z Like Zhe Zaby Zhe zrain Zhe zish Zhat zan Zams zrians Zam reviewz

I had this exact engine from PIKO, it was packaged in a polystyrene box and cardboard box, and it had a numberplate DB 98003. Out of three engines called BR 98 this reminds none of them and the catalogue has it as "Dampflok mit tender" (Steam engine with tender) and it appears in many start sets. I no longer run it, but it is very fast (and the tender sometimes comes off) This could be just some factory making them for piko and sending some unbranded

Maybe you should retire el cheapo, and instead have, the Tat controller, the name goes well with that top hat

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha that'd be nice, but I'd never do that to ElCheapo, he's been a good friend! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@Staniele

2 жыл бұрын

@@SamsTrains well sam you still could at the tat controller as some things are the same price as a house and are tat and some are so cheap yet so good cheep dosen't automaticly mean tat!

1:05 I...I can't believe it. Is...Is that... Is that the one,, the only hobo cheapo?

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

I honestly don't know - he just turned up that way - I gave him some money for new clothes! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@chuckstrains7604

3 жыл бұрын

He looks like the sheriff or police officer off of postman Pat

@GenericGeeza

3 жыл бұрын

Pls dont delete this its actually true

@skullyx8152

3 жыл бұрын

someone has to make a meme out of that

YEEESSS FINALLY PKP LOCO I AM SO PROUD OF YOU. Now you need to buy a good polish loco from PIKO.( Btw. This "model" is a toy from old piko starter sets which where a circle track with this loco and 2 wagons/)

@veitwilberg1277

3 жыл бұрын

You are right. They are from the Startset: Start-Set Dampflok mit Personenwagen PKP. And i have the old Version from my East Germany Childhood.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much for sharing! I would like to try some proper PIKO stuff - I wonder if they know their gear is on AliExpress?! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@misterwibble6411

3 жыл бұрын

@@SamsTrains Modern Piko models are probably price-wise on a par with UK models. They're not generally as eye-wateringly expensive as many of the other continental manufacturers (e.g. Roco). Possibly AliExpress have this model under licence from Piko?

@An_Economist_Plays

3 жыл бұрын

I was going to say it looked like it came out of a set, that would explain the styrofoam on the loco and tender.

@misterwibble6411

3 жыл бұрын

@@An_Economist_Plays Could well be.

This Oi2 29 is an absolute enigma. A seemingly German 0-2-2-0 that appears to appears to be an overpowered tank engine eqipped with a tender and no ability to acess the cab. It half resembles some sort of AI creation, naturally made by an AI that has no understanding of trains. At least it's got some nice moulded detail.

6:34: Actually, that would be a 0-2-2-0 “double single” if the front wheels are driven too. The back wheels of an 0-2-2-0 are driven by the coupling rods and outside cylinders. The front wheels are driven by an internal cylinder and internal valve gear. Hope this info is useful!

@daylightman8459

3 жыл бұрын

There are also other types of “double single” locomotives like the 2-2-2-2 LNWR “Greater Britain” class and 4-2-2-0 LSWR T7 class.

@mikoajstanaszek7979

Жыл бұрын

But all the wheels on this loco is powered by gears inside.

@paulcaswell2813

2 ай бұрын

Careful - we're getting into Webb 'Problem' country ;-)

It looks to me like parts of different models that were put together. The boiler, the cab and the tender are those of a German class 24. Some locos of that class remained in Poland after the war where they were reclassified as Oi2. However the chassis comes from something completely different: As you can see in the photo you found, the German 24/Polish Oi2 is a 2-6-0 and the driving wheels are bigger than those of the model. They also made some changes to the loco body. They added water tanks on the sides of the boiler, which doesn‘t make any sense in a tender engine, and unlike the prototype the model doesn‘t have deflectors.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Yes it really does look that way actually - I agree!! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

Me: Mom can I get a lner A3 Mom: we have one at home The lner A3 at home

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha! xD

@totallythomasfan10

3 жыл бұрын

It’s A German Locomotive

@gamingwithlukeJToH

28 күн бұрын

@@totallythomasfan10 makes it even worse.

The real PKP Oi2 class is a DRG design from the 1920s and 1930s, known in Germany as the class 24. This is a small 2-6-0 that survived in west Germany until the 1960s, and until the 70s in East Germany and in Poland.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Cool stuff Mark, thanks a lot for the info! :D

@gamingwithlukeJToH

28 күн бұрын

"we may have _slliiiiiiigghhtly_ left 4 wheels behind..." -the operator of that locomotive

I feel bad for the Q1 having to be surrounded by things that are more than lemons.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Me too - it was very shaken at the end of the day! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

This is a German Steam Engine, this particular model (with and without tender) is sold with German numbering and the "DB" logo around here by a company called piko, which usually makes very good Modell trains (especially the old ones from former East Germany, those things are unkillable, with many of them being 50 to 40 years old and still running today!)

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much for sharing this - that clears up some of my questions! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

I love these videos about the cheap locos (manly for Sam’s impressions), Sam it would be great if you could do a vid on how to make these locos look better.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Henry! If I knew how to make them better, I would do that mate, lol! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@brianartillery

3 жыл бұрын

@@SamsTrains - In this case, all you'd need is a hammer...

@thegillingroup1303

3 жыл бұрын

@@brianartillery DUDE I WOULD DO THAT TO LOL

@wedding824

3 жыл бұрын

That is actually a good idea.

@henryhughes9868

3 жыл бұрын

@@brianartillery so true 😂

You made me laugh when you said “Oi2 29”, by the way.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha glad to hear that! ;D

@raymondleggs5508

3 жыл бұрын

I automaticly read it as Wee2 29

@Tombola1993

3 жыл бұрын

@@raymondleggs5508 Partly as in the French translation to the word “yes”?

@eastmidlandslevelcrossingsuk

3 жыл бұрын

@@SamsTrains same :D

@gamingwithlukeJToH

28 күн бұрын

i mean, the *_𝓞𝓘_* 2 29 is a pretty cool locomotive after all.

"It looks like it's suffering, which brings me joy." I just died.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha!! xD

Spotted it immediately it’s the q1 at the left side of the performance test ‘area’ Also great video as always!

@donaldduckith6792

3 жыл бұрын

I spotted it immediately as well. I'm like, "Is the theme ugly locos? Nope, it's the odd one out."

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha very well spotted, that's it! ;D

Hey sam, from what i've seen this loco appears to be based on a german DRG-class 80 tank engine from one of the german manufacturers like pico, roco, or fleischmann, but with the coal bunker chopped off to make room for a tender (hence why the buffers on the back). Don't get the wrong taste of these tho, i've owned one of these little tank engines before and they're actually quite lovely little models, and with insane detail on the newer ones, you should review one in the future, german models are quite different quality wise, this one appears to be a cheap knockoff of one of the ones from the 1990's to early 2000's era

@paulcaswell2813

2 ай бұрын

Decent German models make even the best of British outline seem as toys.

The old El cheapo is gone. I really miss him

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Me too - the new guy is super weird, he kept trying to lick my trains :( I don't want him coming back... help :( Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@Deuce_and_a_half

3 жыл бұрын

@@SamsTrains hahahaha Sam you have to get him a dog muzzle so he can't lick anything

@motorwayt-s628

3 жыл бұрын

@@SamsTrains He licks some cheap trains, massages them too, it's El Creepooooo

@triskellian

3 жыл бұрын

😥😥

@triskellian

3 жыл бұрын

@@SamsTrains 😝😁😂

It's from Piko Edit: And it's not based off any real loco Edit2: 44£??? They sell these in start sets with wagons, tracks and controller for the same price

@robingray1302

3 жыл бұрын

Piko was my first thought too !

@trainsandstuff1021

3 жыл бұрын

I think its a DRG Class 24 2-6-0 without smoke deflectors and added side tanks and reduced to a 0-4-0. So yeah it is based on a real loco but very big creative liberties taken to make it cheaper to make and more robust

@rwjenkins

3 жыл бұрын

From the packaging, I'm guessing this one came from one of those sets, that the seller is simply parting out.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Wow!! So I got ripped off?! xD Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@user-le8wr4yz6q

3 жыл бұрын

@@SamsTrains welcome to aliexpress and a nice oriental tradition we call "raspil"

1:19 legendary piko train!

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Is it Piko then?!

@Balazs_Gavodi

3 жыл бұрын

@@SamsTrains yes

@Balazs_Gavodi

3 жыл бұрын

@@SamsTrains yes! Germany campany

@jpsholland

3 жыл бұрын

@@SamsTrains No. Piko is high end nowadays. But it is former East German, and some people cant forgive them. So it has to be bad.

@Balazs_Gavodi

3 жыл бұрын

This junior train

Haha i love how this slowly turned into you ripping into the 1361 anyways another great review sam!

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha yeah - I just can't resist it! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

The fact that you said the 1361 developed a spasm and it looked like it was suffering made me laugh so hard! The 1361 is such a comedic loco! Like you said, a re-review of the 1361 would be ace XD Also the odd loco out was the Q1, can i have a signed certificate now please? XD

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha I know - that loco's been comedy gold right from the start... it's actually served me much better than it would have had it been decent! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

As some have said, it is from PIKO. I have two models of this loco. One with tender (the exact same as this "toy") and one without tender a.k.a. tank engine. That may explain the existence of rear buffer slot. They use the exact same chassis.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, yes you're right - that's what others have said! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

5:44 the application of the paintwork actually does look pretty good.

1:06 you look kinda like a pilgrim from thanksgiving

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha!! xD Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@alanlansdell7533

3 жыл бұрын

Probably can't say that either🙂

@triskellian

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

@@alanlansdell7533 Yeah that's true actually - get away from here Ert, you're cancelled my friend!

Mom can I have a model train? No we already have a model train at home Model train at home:

So fun listening to Sam rightly giving out about theses locos, and man the Heljin 1361 that made me laugh so much. Please do a re-review of the Heljin and let both barrels go on it !

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha thanks Henry, glad you liked it!! I'll think about that! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

I'm going to say the SR Q1 Class is the odd one out, because while the design is often referred to as "the ugly duckling", it's actually a very functional, low-maintenance loco! Or at least, it will be if it's anything like its real-world counterpart :P.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely right!! Email me if you want your certificate! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

Sam you never fail to make me laugh! You always show the funny side to model railway! I love it! 1:11

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha thanks so much mate - glad you enjoyed it! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

I think i had this once. Bucle up, Sam, you’re in for a wild ride, because this thing is HELLA FAST!

I'm 99.99% sure this is old Piko tooling. As a kid in the USSR, this engine came in a starter set that my parents gifted me in the late 1980s. It's a German-based outline, but doesn't match any specific prototype. On the Piko version, the connecting rods, while plastic, were finished in a shiny metal paint, and the cab was open in the back (with the motor showing).

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Yes everyone's said that - I think that right!! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

The locomotive looks like it should have more wheels is it also a tank locomotive trying to be a tender locomotive it's a very weird locomotive

@Decrepit_Productions

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, those tiny, closely-spaced wheels seem mismatched for the loco size. Seems to me that in the real world, with the loco itself being super heavy, the loco would have a tendency to fall on its 'nose' when not attached to a train. I suppose the tender might prevent that, but it seems a poor design decision nonetheless.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah! The real thing had more wheels, not that it's much to go by! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@ministerstvo_

3 жыл бұрын

This train isn’t british class . This polish PKP Gdańsk 0i

@jameshardy4354

3 жыл бұрын

This locomotive looks a bit German to me

Good Lord, these 3 engines are atrocious 😂 Listening to you berating the devil out of the 1361 and watching the thing itself trying to kill itself on every opportunity was all I needed for my day to be perfect 👌🏽 Also, the Q1 is the answer lol!

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha they certainly are - and glad to hear that! The Q1 is the answer! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

The hidden gem has got to be the Q1. Has to be the best slow crawl I've ever seen. Superb loco, and I love the prototype - always a favourite at the NRM

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Well spotted- yes they are wonderful - Email me if you want your certificate! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

This video is simply a barrel of laughs. The loco, it’s coupling ability, the. Just full sending it, the other locos and how they seem to break down on cue. I didn’t stop laughing for the whole second half of the video.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha thanks so much! It was a gift that kept on giving wasn't it?! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

I actually dont mind the locomotive. If you paint it up, give it a 5 volt motor somehow, and add a hornby or bachmann couplings. And also You really like the " ugly duckling " Q1 the most

Polish Model Railroaders appreciate your video 🇵🇱 I was surprised to see you review a fictional Polish engine. I hope you'll do more Polish or even Piko models in the future. Thumbs up coming from Poland :D Greetings and Regards: Adam L

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha yeah - I'm sorry that my first Polish loco wasn't any good - maybe I'll try some better ones next time?! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@andrzejpotocki8708

2 жыл бұрын

At least there's a high voltage warning sign. On a steam engine. Our impressive ability to predict a future appeared here xD

I think a really cool series for Sam’s Trains would be to make this “convention ready” You could do up the mechanism, maybe 3d some parts, make this a savage model then maybe a charity auction for someone to take home after?!

21:27 Oh man! You got a Martin-Martmartinson Models Dapol GWR 2-6-0! You’re so lucky!

When I saw the word cheap I just knew it's time for El cheap o

@wedding824

3 жыл бұрын

Correction: the used but improved El cheapo

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha absolutely!! ;D

I thought I had seen this loco before. I have seen it advertised on Amazon for around the same price and its manufacturer identity is that its a PIKO Hobby basic trainset model, look up PIKO Hobby 0-4-0 locomotive. There is also a tank engine version that also looks delightfully cheap and nasty.

@bartoszkrawczyk3946

3 жыл бұрын

It is true, but other PIKO trains are much better, to be honest

@bentullett6068

3 жыл бұрын

@@bartoszkrawczyk3946 yeah the other locomotives look good I checked them out on the UK retailer Gaugemaster and some of the diesel locomotives were reasonably priced.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Oh wow! Are they really on Amazon? Bugger!

@bentullett6068

3 жыл бұрын

@@SamsTrains they are on Gaugemaster's website as well

The Loco is from Piko in the Starter Set: Starter Set Passenger Train with Steam loco PKP, PIKO A-Track w. Railbed. Item number: 97933. And i have the old Version from this Loco. Greetings from Berlin.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much for sharing - so it's PIKO! :O Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@Taschenschieber

3 жыл бұрын

Based on the tender, I'd say Sam found the correct prototype in the DR Class 24, if "prototype" is even the correct word for a loco that is this obviously not interested in being prototypical. At the very least, I am pretty sure the Reichsbahn (whose red/black color scheme is on this model) never had a B / 0-4-0 tender engine.

Brilliant Video Sam. I chuckled all through it. Keep up the great work. I will show this to my son tomorrow. He loves your videos as well. :)

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Graham - hope your son enjoys it! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

This came in a starter set Some older versions came with metal siderods and ruber buffers There is also a tank engine version I own two of the tender Engines one without tender and one tank engine

The Q1 is the bad but good locomotive where’s my prize 😂

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha well spotted - send me an email, and I'll reply with your certificate! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@PieAndChips

3 жыл бұрын

My Q1 was really good. Was second hand but ran really well

@brianartillery

3 жыл бұрын

The Q1 is my all-time favourite engine. It's big, ugly, and yet looks oddly futuristic. It also was a real workhorse that did everything asked of it.

@PieAndChips

3 жыл бұрын

@@brianartillery You should make it "Steampunk" by gluing some old watch gears to it and then painting it silver

@callumb1049

3 жыл бұрын

I think he means bad looking locomotive

The "Oi2 29" part is hilarious

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha thank you! xD

Hi Sam. very amusing video. It performed better than the tango haha. You could soon use it to pull a santa special, pulling some cheap wagons full of presents. You could do with a scrapyard scene on your layout with the 1361 loco being the first victim of the cutters torch. Stay safe and well. Cheers Chris.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha it literally did actually - and good idea, lol! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

My very first locomotive was just like this my dad bought it in the late 80's or early 90's (it's an ancient PIKO design that really hasn't changed a bit through the decades some early ones where made with steel frames and 9V motors also there's an other type made with the exact same frame and running gear that's a tank locomotive without the tender hence the holes for the buffers at the back, older ones where fitted with better quality motors but they're all kinda loud) and ran it a lot then later gifted it to me in 2007 the bearing surfaces in the frame worn out once but we put little seel bushings into them, they might be cheaply made but they are basically indestructible. Also worth mentioning that they where mostly sold in sets and where basically the only models people could afford in the Eastern Block.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for sharing - yes I'm told this is a PIKO one - I bet yours was much better quality, for sure! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

2 жыл бұрын

@@SamsTrains Hi there, I'm probably very late to the party but I know those fairly well. The piece you have is a sh*ttier version of already sh*tty PIKO 50501 (often marked as DB98 003, but I tend to believe there is no such thing in reality). It shares the same drivetrain with the PIKO 50500, which is loosely based on the real DB80 and here is the history behind that: The series was started in about 1960's, but there was produced the "true" DB80 model with three axles, same body but different drivetrain and also a version for the startset (a toy basically). I don't know when they added the version with tender but in 1980's it already did exist. As the time went on, they simplified the drivetrain more into the one you have now. Nowadays you can only buy the "proper 3-axle" DB80 marketed as the DB80 and I believe those cheap ones do just carry the product code 50500 and 50501, but they are still based on the old DB80 toy 2-axle versions until now. I had the old 2-axle DB80 made in 1970's as a kid and I bought exactly the same recently again, so I actually own the older smaller sister of the loco you have here, but the drivetrain with gears is basically the same. You may see it in my 2021 Xmas layout vlog and I can eventually provide you with some details for comparison. Anyway, best regards form CZ! You do a great job with the cheap loco's reviews!

2 жыл бұрын

Just got my hands on two of the Chinese passenger cars that belong to this set. Interesting to see the difference in quality between the originals and Chinese version.

The bullied Q1 Where’s my certificate? 😂😂😂😂 Fun video Love the top hat

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Well done! Send me an email, and I'll reply with your certificate! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@MapTheDragonRailways

3 жыл бұрын

@@SamsTrains I emailed you 🤣

@spumatei

3 жыл бұрын

Poor Q1, why do those cruel bastards bully him, he's done no evil!

Between Sam's funny quips and the kooky cheap trains all I can say is...😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😅 Entertaining as always!

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha very glad you enjoyed it! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

Remember that this is supposed to be little more than a toy train that introduces children into the hobby. It’s not listed as a high quality model, and it isn’t trying to be a high quality model. After all, it’s meant to entertain a child, not an experienced adult model railroader.

Nice review, I’m glad you’ve changed El Cheapo.

@insomniacbritgaming1632

3 жыл бұрын

Why? Does El Cheapo affect your life and the way you conduct yourself on a day to day basis? No? Didn't think so... shut up

@rafchris

3 жыл бұрын

@@insomniacbritgaming1632 well said

@stepkneeboi

3 жыл бұрын

@@insomniacbritgaming1632 and everyone who got offended wasnt even mexican so it makes it more dumb

@insomniacbritgaming1632

3 жыл бұрын

@@stepkneeboi exactly... half of these people would have an aneurysm if they heard half the stuff that came out of my mouth... I wonder how many Hispanics actually watch a British KZreadr whose focus is you trains...

@harrytodhunter5078

3 жыл бұрын

@tiny table wargames Did the killing of George Floyd affect you personally? Probably not. Does that mean you shouldn’t care about systematic racism? Absolutely not. You dont need to be affected by an issue to take issue with it. If everyone thought like that, nothing would ever change.

1:05 I couldn't stop laughing

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha! ;D

Sam you are taking no prisoners in this review, love it.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha thank you! :D

IT’S THE Q1 !!! Great video mate Thank you :)

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Well spotted!! Email me if you want your certificate! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

From a distance, it looks like a Marklin or Fleischmann model.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha yeah... and then you move closer.... ;D

@LeifLaffeEriksson

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was thinking that it was a recast of a proper model but they didn't have any better chassis to put it on...

Funny as always, will miss el cheapo. Could have pulled of Charley Chaplin with the tash and hat sam! :)

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha thanks Ashley, that's true, lol! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@billydoidge7661

3 жыл бұрын

*Charley Cheaplin

Love the noise warning in the description for the time cards, and the costume quality seems to match the name lol.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha thank you - I thought it was all rather suitable! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

What entertains me most, is the yellow sign warning "The catenary is under high voltage. Beware of electrocution" on steam loco :)

IT'S THE Q1 IN THE BACKGROUND!!!!

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Well spotted - that's the one!! :D

@gayburrito5353

3 жыл бұрын

😆😆

look like somthink from the snowden railway with the cogs lol

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha yeah it does a bit!! xD

@nunman1

3 жыл бұрын

@@SamsTrains just as i am watching i though the same as you. would you like a lump hammer lol

El chepo at its best sam, 40 quid for a tender and 4 quid for a loco 😂

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha thanks Ciaran, absolutely! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

Dude I can’t take you seriously with that on 🤣🤣🤣love it

Good old El Cheapo he brings a smile to my face!

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear that Jack! :D

You absoutely PWNED Twitter. Excellent review, great work.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha thanks mate! :D

Great vid Sam hope ur ok in theses times ❤️🔥

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Hope you are too!! :D

Love these videos, they do make me chuckle. Not as much as the fact it quickly became a let’s trash the Heljen 1361 again 😂😂

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha thanks Mike, glad you liked it! I just couldn't help myself! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

hi sam. I think you should be less defensive about this stereotype problem. like i don't think you're a bad person or anything, but it's not a good thing to get defensive about something when people are concerned that you're perpetuating harmful stereotypes. It's a step in the right direction to refit the bit, but it feels kind of hollow with the way you did it.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

I’m sorry, I do feel defensive. It’s been an incredibly rough year, and there’s a lot of nasty stuff in the world. When people seek to remove jokes or comedy from context in order to call them offensive or ‘cancel’ them, I do feel defensive, because as the trend continues, everything becomes off-limits, and we’ll find that we can’t laugh at ourselves anymore. This will be (and has already been) disruptive to the entertainment industry that I love. Distinctions must be made between offensive material with dangerous, malicious intent, and harmless entertainment intended purely to amuse. Not everyone has to feel as I do, and that’s a good thing. The fact that I disagree with the criticism here is perfectly acceptable too, though please recognise that I have now removed the character that was objected to.

@WhirligigGirl

3 жыл бұрын

@@SamsTrains this isn't about cancelling. this is about improving yourself so that you don't make the videos uncomfortable for some people. Comedy doesn't work in a vacuum. It's subjective. So that means what you think is funny might not be what others find funny, and if your audience doesn't like the joke, you're doing a bad job at relating to your audience. the trouble is that you weren't really laughing at *yourself*, you're laughing at another racial/ethnic/national group of people. Regardless of the intent that's how it's perceived. Also, I get it. We're all having a rough year. If you want to feel defensive then you're entitled to that. But we're grown ups here (albeit grown ups who like trains an awful lot, occasionally colorful talking ones), we don't have to show it. The distinction you mention is a useful one, and it's why I don't think you're a bad person. But just because you didn't do something harmful on purpose doesn't mean it wasn't a bad thing to do. I'm not really interested in continuing this back and forth, but I will say one last thing. It would be useful for you to consider why it's such a big deal that racist jokes are "off limits," why it's so important that you be able to make racist stereotypical jokes without criticism.

@MrJoeyWheeler

3 жыл бұрын

@@WhirligigGirl It's not about improving. It's about idiots like you trying to force others to capitulate to your evil, manipulative ideology wherein your made-up "offence" must be appeased at all times. Sam wants to have a Mexican character based on the traditional stereotype. He can. And we can all laugh at it. Just as the Japanese laugh as the traditional American stereotype of a blond, war-crazed soldier and Americans frequently laugh at the British stereotype of a hat-wearing, tea-drinking Bond villain. Don't pretend that you're a "grown up" when you're trying to condemn someone for not appealing to your insane, illiberal, authoritarian feelings.

@WhirligigGirl

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrJoeyWheeler not a liberal my guy.

@adstri

3 жыл бұрын

imagine arguing in the youtube comments lmao.

Heljan seem like they make actually good locomotives compared to this on also Like El cheapo-Ben

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha that's true actually!! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

A ridiculously shambolic costume slapped together from badly made components is perfect for this series.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha, I certainly thought so! ;D

Still think the Heljan 1361 is still the biggest lemon in your collection out of all of them. That one there that you reviewed today can definitely be added to the lemons family I would say

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it is - because it's degenerating!! xD Thanks for watching, Sam :)

I've missed El Cheapo!!!

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Me too :(

@bigmac342

3 жыл бұрын

El Cheapo was a highly offensive stereotype towards the Hispanic community. Me and other members of this community were rightly outraged by this stereotype. Sure some may be ok with it but no matter how you look at it is a harmful stereotype that Sam refuses to take seriously

@adamrivera3327

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigmac342 I disagree, I understand why you would be upset, but you must understand the this is a joke its ment to be humorous. There are stereotypes for all thing living and non living. For Example: there are stereotypes for Chinese products, stereotypes for pitbulls, stereotypes about British people not being able to say Certain Syllables, Just to name a few stereotypes. They exist in everything because that's just the way people are. The thing is at the end of the day I don't get offended by the el cheapo thing because I can take a joke and I can see the humorin it. This channel is about model/toy trains and we are all hear to have fun. But In my opinion the most offensive thing about it is how cringy it is lol Regards Adam

@bigmac342

3 жыл бұрын

@@adamrivera3327 look I get that but I just hate how Sam doesn’t understand why some would be upset. I would be fine if he just apologized and moved on. Hell I wasn’t even that upset when I first saw el cheapo but the way he handled it is what I had a promotion with. Instead of handling this real issue seriously he just says everyone else is to blame since they can’t take a joke. Also telling someone to take a joke is a bit offensive. Everyone has a right to be offended by something.

@MrJoeyWheeler

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigmac342 Shut up you bloody idiot.

El Cheapo seems to have migrated over here to become an English Gentleman! I don't think that the old intro was offensive in any way, I quite enjoyed his exotic character, but the new one is very good too!

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Yes - I was very surprised when he arrived! Of course it wasn't - but I don't want to upset anyone! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

It looks pretty much like one of the piko starterset locos, but mine is a tank engine, has a running number and is from the reichsbahn.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I think you're right - if you google Piko 0-4-0, this comes up! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

This 'model' does have a prototype, which is the DR class 24. It was produced in Germany since the late 1920s until mid-1930s. After the WWII some of these were used in Poland and were classified as Oi2. The wheel configuration of this locomotive in real life was 2-6-0.

It wasnt kids on twitter it was full grown adults who are right. Theres no need to keep pedalling tired out stereotypes in this day and age. Honestly el cheapo annoyed me when it first turned up but Honestly this snarky response has rubbed me up the wrong way even more :( Yes its good to have fun and i love seeing your cheap and nasty reviews but the whole el cheapo thing really doesn't add anything. I normally love your wit and sarcasm especially when roasting companies but the first few mins of this have Honestly left me feeling disappointed. Can we all move forward and just leave the el cheapo character behind us? Full steam ahead and on to more great future vids! ❤

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

The majority of the accounts I looked at were around 15 years of age. Some of whom persisted in posting irrelevant images out of context in order to falsly push the narrative that I'm racist. The rest, rather than just not watching content they didn’t like, as an adult would, fought to try and ‘cancel’ it. Their age combined with their behaviour led me to the conclusion: children. As for being right, it was a subjective discussion - nobody is right and nobody is wrong. They felt El-cheapo was offensive, I did not. People are allowed to disagree. I approached the response the same way I do anything - through humour - but let it be known that I made changes, even though I didn't think they were necessary, because I do not want to offend people, and that matters to me. I'm sorry if it came across as snarky, but be reminded that I didn't agree with those assertions for reasons I've previously explained. Please don't feel disappointed - like all of my skits, they're designed to be meaningless. Don't waste your energy worrying or getting upset about this - try to read it as it was intended! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

Please bring back old el cheapo he was more funny

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha, I wish I could - the new guy is a real weirdo :/ Thanks for watching, Sam :)

When the mehano and the saddle tank cut out in succession CCCCOMBO!!

Sam, you made me laugh for almost the whole video.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha glad to hear that! ;D

That Heljan is a real beast, how do they get away with that. I love the Q1 in the background, a real gem.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha I know - it's a rotter isn't it?! :D Me too - lovely things! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

Intros are getting better and better brilliant 😂😂😂

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha thank you! xD

This is the exact same copy of the old PIKO BR98 starter pack stem loco. It's made since the 60's-70's. Usually you can get one used for 7-10 pounds. Fun fact, PIKO still produces cheap analouge starter packs, that are came with this BR98 +2 coaches. And because PIKO produces in China, no wonder, you can get one of theese brand new on eBay or Wish. And for a lot of kids back in the days, this little engine with the coaches was it's first ever model train.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing - yes that's exactly what others have said too, that must be right! I definitely over-paid too, lol! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

I actually had this train back when I was high school and I got it as a set with 2 passenger cars and track (no controller) for $30 US but this was almost 20 years ago. It didn’t make near as much noise at that you have there. I also remember the brand being PIKO actually. They make other German style trains that are waaaaaay more realistic than this one I can tell you that. I ended trading it for some other odds and ends at my local railroad museum. From what I remember it didn’t stay long there so someone has it and is enjoying I hope. I have a ROCO 2-10-0 decapod that my dad and I modeled to make it look like a war train with weathering and sandbags on the engine. That one is a much better runner I can say that for a fact.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Very cool!! That's what others have said - this is PIKO apparently! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

Hey Sam! I think you should covert the Heljan 1361 tank engine into a free wheeler, or turn it into a Smudger/Stanley type engine. Take the boiler, smokebox, and saddle tank, and put them next to the crane, it can then be useful as a steam generator.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha maybe that'd be good - I'm sure it could manage that without disaster! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

The front coupling makes the locomotive look like it's flipping you off. how fitting

Excellent review of the world renowned HO 1:87 scale Model German Initial European Steam Locomotive Train for Diorama Architecture Railway Landscape Layout Kits! The people of twitter are loving the return of Monsieur Inexpensive! (I think)

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

haha thanks a lot mate - and well done for remembering the correct title, that's very respectful of you! Glad to hear that - I am to please! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

Thanks for the information. I was considering buying this unit because of the Polish theme, but your video changed my mind. Thanks i saved a few dollars.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

No problem Peter - I wouldn't really recommend it, lol! ;D Merry Christmas - Sam :)

I have this locomotive from piko. Its very simple but it works well. Had it for years and never given me problems.

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Very cool! Glad to hear they last a while! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

At least they got the typical German cab reasonably, although that would have been more at home on a Pacific!!! Can't believe you even reviewed it!

By the markings I can tell it's supposed to be a PKP (Polish railway) engine. But I'm not sure if PKP ever had 0-4-0 tender engines. And another thing, I've heard those "Ho scale 1:87 german intial european steam diorama kids architecture" engines aren't that well made. By the way, Great video as always!

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much for the info - appreciate it! :D

This looks amazing, would definitely recommend this to go on say a bonfire

@SamsTrains

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!! Great for bonfires! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)