Exactly what I needed! Just ordered everything from Tractor Supply today for just over $200. Several deer live in my 12 acre Michigan yard like they own it. So I had given up growing a garden for nearly 10 years. This is so exciting!

@dooleyhomestead

3 жыл бұрын

Good luck! Let us know how it goes!

Thanks for taking the time to share your experiences with deer, appreciate your efforts. Thank you From Missouri

@dooleyhomestead

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! Thanks for your comment!

We have also tried a Fishing line fence to protect our urban garden.... Deer are hoofed footed Squirrels! The simply stuck their heads through, then walked until the lower wire brushed their chests and stepped through. You have to remember that deer are experts at navigating very thick woods and thickets and if motivated enough by food they can find a way through almost anything.

@dooleyhomestead

3 жыл бұрын

You're so right!

Greetings from Georgia. Hope all is well with you and your family. Love this idea and video. I will be trying gardening again and clearing out the area this week. Thanks for posting. I will definitely be subscribing.

@dooleyhomestead

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I put up a 3-d electric deer fence very similar to yours 3 years ago and It works 100% keeping the deer out of my Northern Wisconsin garden. Mine is about 300' x 250" square. The only thing that has managed to get in the garden besides rabbits and such was a bear last July. Easy to construct, cheap, and easy to change around if need be. Wish I could post a picture.

@dooleyhomestead

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome - thanks for confirming. Watch out for those bears - yikes! What was their favorite veggie?

@philk8807

2 жыл бұрын

Where abouts in northern Wisconsin? I'm up near Lake Superior!

Greetings from the LooseNatural farm in Andalusia Spain where we currently live through a drought and the deer look for food. Thanks. We will try it all.

Thank you for this video, all commenters, your added links to find the items to install this 3D fence plus chicken wire in my instance. The chipmunks, squirrels, rodents, possums, rabbits, raccoons, along with the deer that hop my neighbor's 4 ft fence into my yard routimely will not be able to get to my container garden to be placed on tarps in the new fenced area. I will finally regain my backyard.

I use this method when planting fruit trees. The line does not have to be electrified. The deer get confused when they hit that first line. Don't laugh but I actually encouraged deer to come in to eat apples from a couple of mature apple trees.

@dooleyhomestead

2 ай бұрын

You're probably right about electrification - I'm too afraid to try without, though.

Also known as 'figure 4' - a 4 foot tall 'visual barrier' and an electric fence 3' high and 3' outside of the 4' visual barrier.

I decided last year that it was cheaper to grow a sacrificial food plot for deer to attract them and feed them far away from where the garden is, than to try to fence my large garden. It worked really well... For the deer! Instead, my sweet corn was decimated by raccoons, who weren't so thrilled with the cheap field corn that the deer enjoyed 😂 This year, I'm building an electric fence!

@dooleyhomestead

2 жыл бұрын

Racoons are rascals! Hope the fence goes well for you. Deer food plots are illegal in a lot of areas, even if not used for hunting.

@wm-fm1ts

2 жыл бұрын

@@dooleyhomestead Interesting! Deer baiting isn't illegal at all where I live now, but where I used to live, baiting was illegal, but food plots weren't

Hey, glad that worked. I have to keep deer and goats out so I think I need a real fence. I like that you said where you are located. I always wonder about that. Beautiful place. I’m in CA and never in my life have felt a winter like you have there. I’m clueless about that.

@dooleyhomestead

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment! Don't know much about keeping goats out. Best of luck!

FYI based on my own research for this design--it seems recommended to get a fence charger (technically they say above 1J) output but at least close to that. I have no hands-on experience but if you're finding success with a 0.15J output charger that's very exciting. I found one for $160 with 0.8J output.

Hello from Niles! I came across your channel when I searched for deer fencing, and had to do a double take when I saw you were local. Small world! Thanks for the video, we get frequent deer and turkey through our neighborhood and I’m trying to figure out the easiest/cheapest way to keep them out of my new 600 sq ft garden. I’m wondering if I can get away with just the double fence without it being electric, but not sure if I should take the risk. I’ll be subscribing…hope to see more videos!

@dooleyhomestead

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your note! Personally, I wouldn't risk it for the $110 or so for the charger. Too many hours invested to put it to chance. You could always have it 'ready to go' and at the first sign of intrusion, you could electrify it if need be. If you do try it, let us know if it works for you!

Thanks for posting this excellent video! We recently moved from the city the countryside here in central Ohio and the first thing we did was build a large vegetable garden. We are currently using the 3D fence design in your video with non-electrofied white nylon cord. So far, it's been working but we have decided to upgrade to electrofied conductors for added safety. We live on the edge of a nature preserve and have lots of deer crossing our property day and night. Our question is: Have you made any 'refinements' to your design since posting this video 2 years ago? For instance, do you still recommend the same hight and spacing? We also have a big rabbit population but so far the 24" chickenwire pinned at the bottom with sod stakes has been keeping them out. Thanks Again, Bill and Monica

@dooleyhomestead

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it's working for you! Your unelectrified version further confirms the visual nature of the 3D fence's deterrence. No changes on our part! Our rabbit population ebbs and flows with the coyote population.

@sharonhoffer3599

4 ай бұрын

Bugger! After watching many videos, I’ve just started putting up my deer fence using 2.4m posts and fishing line 😮 But looks like that might not work, and so I’ll add the 3D aspect you’ve suggested and hopefully my food forest will survive. Thank you from Mid North Coast of NSW, Australia 🇦🇺🙋🏽‍♀️🙏🏽

Great video. The parts are slowly arriving for my fence. Are there any KZread videos on how to run the poly wire? Is it one continuous run or short sections?

@dooleyhomestead

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment and question! We ran it as three separate strands, then ran a 'jumper' strand from the charge box to the outside line, then from the bottom line to the top line. As long as the strands are touching each other and have continuity they will work. You can see how we connected the three wires to the charger around 0:55 We also used three more short sections for the 'gate' so that we weren't pulling or worrying about the long wire. If you want to use them year after year (if you take them down for tilling or another reason), I recommend rolling them on an old paper towel roll or similar spool. They get tangled very easily. Best of luck!

Thank you for that informative video I did see one with the monofilament line good to know that it doesn't really work it didn't seem like to me it would work. So when did you install this and how's it going thank you Victoria

@dooleyhomestead

2 жыл бұрын

We installed this in 2020; worked perfectly for the 2 seasons we had it up.

I think this may work for me. Now I'm looking at doing raised beds how high would I have to go to keep the rabbits and other creatures out?

@dooleyhomestead

3 жыл бұрын

For Rabbits, you probably want to go at least a couple of feet for raised beds. If you have other creatures, like raccoons, you may consider adding fencing - as they can crawl up almost anything. I would consider adding 2-foot tall chicken-wire (or similar) around the inner fence. That way, a raccoon would have to crawl over it (and get shocked at the ~24inch inside line), and 2-feet of protection is usually enough to deter rabbits.

hey this looks good , I wonder how you keep mice and ground hogs out ?

@dooleyhomestead

3 жыл бұрын

We usually don't have mice unless we have a tarp or some sort of cover in the garden. It's also far enough away from a hiding spot that groundhogs aren't an issue. For groundhogs, I would consider adding 2-foot tall chicken wire (or similar) around the inner fence - close to the electric line so that even a climber would get zapped trying to enter.

I like it and want to try it. What do you guys do for rabbits? They seem to be just as problematic.

Fishing line is best used as a property encirclement.. Small galvanized ring anchor hooks set in your woodline trees at many heights .. Few inches off ground up to 8 or so feet .. Not exactly a fence but its a concept that works when scaled up.. In other words two or three spans of line is waste of time.. If you span intervals of 4 ta 6 inch heights from ground up to 10 feet using heavier line.. It becomes a functional barrier thats cheap... considering you can encircle an acre size area with a few rolls of fishing line and box of ring anchor hooks.. Where that same actual sized fence would be thousands of dollars

@KS-ys8vu

3 жыл бұрын

I may try this. So you are saying to do this around my property? every 4-6 inches? Going up 8ft? I am going to try this first. TY.

Thanks for the vid! Is this setup still working well for you?

@dooleyhomestead

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment! It worked perfectly while we had it up. We built a horse barn so we had to remove our big garden.

Setting up one of these myself. In terms of connecting the electric wire to the charger, is it as simple as wrapping the hot wire around the terminal and the setting some ground stakes? Do you run separate hot wires to each line on the fence or is it all one big wire?

@dooleyhomestead

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment! We had three strands surrounding the fence. We had one hot wire connected to the charger, then used a 'jumper' line between the other two strands. As long as they are touching somehow (either to each other, or from the main charger) it will carry the charge. Hope this helps!

I'm prepping for my summer garden. I live in northern Wisconsin, and deer pretty much think my property is there's.. which is fine and dandy until they think my hard-worked garden is their grocery store!! I'm going to try this method! any other tips and tricks?

@dooleyhomestead

2 жыл бұрын

It's the only thing that worked for us! Some people complain about smaller animals that we never had a problem with. Racoons, mainly. You may consider adding one more lower strand on the inside line if you think that could be a problem. We have racoons around but they didn't bother our garden. I believe it's due to an abundance of other tasty foods in our area.

Deer do not have binocular vision (like most prey animals) and therefore are not capable of seeing depth....but it is very hard to sneak up on them. The way a deer’s eyes are positioned on its head is part of this. This animal has a 310 degree field of view, with only 50 degrees of blind spot. Compare that to humans, who have three times as big a blind spot. Try this: Powered with 12v or 120v ac. 2 joules. About $70. AgriOtter Electric Fence Energizer 20 Acre 2 in 1 Powered by Battery or AC Outlet 10000V 2J

I grew up near Niles and can tell you from first-hand experience that southern Michigan deer are MUCH bigger than the deer in Florida and can jump much higher. Might that have something to do with why the fishing line fence works for some and not others?

@dooleyhomestead

2 жыл бұрын

You might be right!

Did you cut a separate piece of polyrope for your entrance that attaches to the handles? It doesn't look like it's tied to the rest of the polyrope. Are the inner 2 lines electrified where you enter? Maybe they are conducting because of proximity to each other inside the insulator as they criss cross each other?

@dooleyhomestead

Жыл бұрын

They are separate, but they are connected to electricity via the handles and insulators. As long as they touch at the insulator they carry the charge. Hope this helps!

Very useful Video. What are parts needed and where to buy them, I am in San Jose, CA. thanks for your time

@dooleyhomestead

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome. You can read more here: www.dooleyhomestead.com/cheap-garden-fencing-to-keep-deer-out-cheap-deer-fencing/

Has it been working well through the summer?

@dooleyhomestead

3 жыл бұрын

Sure has. We have deer in our yard almost every day. From bucks to fawns - no one comes near it.

Is there a particular area to place the solar panel to collect the sun when sunlight on my backyard is from am to about 4 pm when the sun sets on the front right yard of my home?

@dooleyhomestead

28 күн бұрын

Hi there - If you're in North America, facing the solar panel to the south will be best. Good luck!

Is it possible to post where you got your supplies from? Not sure how long ago you made this video but that's sounds very inexpensive . Nice thanks

@dooleyhomestead

4 ай бұрын

I got most at my local tractor supply, but a lot of it can be found online. More details here: www.dooleyhomestead.com/cheap-garden-fencing-to-keep-deer-out-cheap-deer-fencing/

I use three strands of electric fencing for my large garden in British Columbia and it keeps the deer and bears out. Sometimes I have been in the garden and the deer are browsing in the meadow nearby. I think because it looks so flimsy they just try to duck under and have had a zap or two. I don’t do the three D thing. Of course it doesn’t work for rabbits but that hasn’t been a problem for me. Now, how can I keep out the slugs?

@dooleyhomestead

3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad we don't have to worry about bears! What garden treats to bears like the most? Our deer are jumpers - and jumped a couple of times over the previous 6 ft tall fishing line, but the addition of the 3-D + electric setup has worked great for us. Good luck with the slugs!

@doihavetohaveachannel8289

3 жыл бұрын

Dooley Homestead - I was pleasantly surprised that our deer don’t jump over too because they easily leap our horse fences. But I think they just thought they could zip under and haha got zapped. I don’t grow corn because it is too much of an attractant to bears. I am very surprised the bears haven’t been in because they have such fury coats but no. I have quite a large strawberry patch so they would like that. I keep my blueberry patch close to the house and trying to decide if I will net it and put up an electric fence this year for birds, deer and bears. It is a new and expanded plot. Thanks for they video.

@dooleyhomestead

3 жыл бұрын

@@doihavetohaveachannel8289 Thanks for sharing! Good Luck!

@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123

3 жыл бұрын

Slugs get an electrical shock from copper, I just collect random used pieces of copper pipe at the dump and lay it around among my plants....works great !!! If you have an infestation bury a lid from a Mayo jar to ground level and put beer in it, change daily until get rid of a bunch. The copper laying around keeps them away. You can also buy a roll of copper tape but I just use free scraps ! Best of luck to you !

Deer and squirrels here killed my tomatoes ! I declared war. Going to install a fence around my raised bed garden using poultry netting over top as well to stop the squirrels!!

@dooleyhomestead

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that - Good luck!

Hi, I modeled my fence from this video and used a Gallagher S20 charger, 12 miles, .20 stored joules(similar to yours). I have 4 lines, totaling about 1,200 ft.(u shaped design) I'm only getting 2500 volts directly after where I have it clamped to the polywire on the outside line and less than 1,000 on the inner top 2 lines at furthest point. I can touch 1,500 volts without feeling a jolt. 2,500 is a slight jolt. Have you measured your voltage? I'm wondering if my charger is underpowered, but I don't think it should be. I used the same grounding rod and drove down to about 6" exposed, not a dry area. The only thing I can think of is the unit came with alligator clamps and maybe the connection isn't what it is supposed to be...although Gallagher is a well established and I don't think they would provide inadequate supplies. Anyway, I'm curious what your voltage is.

@dooleyhomestead

Жыл бұрын

Hi Gregg - seems like you know your stuff. I think you're on the right track with the connections. I haven't measured the voltage since I don't have a proper device that sticks into the ground very far - but I've gotten zapped enough times to know juice is flowing. Sorry we're not able to be more helpful. Best of luck!

@gregg8920

Жыл бұрын

problem solved. poly wire was just touching a corner tpost. 6,000 volts all around now.

@dooleyhomestead

Жыл бұрын

@@gregg8920 Good to hear! ⚡⚡⚡

I don't see any draw for the deer to enter, in your other video there were garden plants?

@dooleyhomestead

4 жыл бұрын

Not too much this year yet - we're in Michigan and just planted. We installed this fence last year after the dear ate the bush beans and had zero deer entries for the rest of the season last year.

Any ideas for coyotes with a 6 foot block wall around the perimeter of the house? We are in the foothills of California.

@dooleyhomestead

9 ай бұрын

Probably not any good ones... Maybe a 3 foot line a foot away from the wall, then a 2 foot line 2 feet away, and 1 foot line three feet away. I assume they are jumping close to the wall and that might deter them. Might need to play around with the spacing. Luckily, we have not had to deal with scrappy coyotes.

It does need to be electrified as I've built the exact same fence except using 3/16" yellow rope. I even put 3 rows on the inside perimeter and 2 on the outside...and the deer walked through them into the garden.. if it was electrified I'm sure they wouldnt try it again...lol

@dooleyhomestead

Жыл бұрын

Agreed! We'll never go back to non-electrified. It's easier and more effective. Good luck to you!

Do you feel like you didn't need the electric fence? Seems that if they can't navigate it to jump, then what is the electric for?

@dooleyhomestead

3 жыл бұрын

A fair point, and one that I've pondered and come to this conclusion: There are two ways deer get in - jumping and walking. Electricity prevents walking entry. With our previous fishing line fence, they would walk right through it slowly and break the lines. They would also jump over it. With this setup, neither happens. Good luck!

@chrisna5668

3 жыл бұрын

@@dooleyhomestead That makes sense.. I was thinking from it only from the jumping aspect.. But your point to the walking through aspect makes absolute sense.

What type of line are you using? Thanks

@dooleyhomestead

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Sharon - this is polywire, more details here: www.dooleyhomestead.com/cheap-garden-fencing-to-keep-deer-out-cheap-deer-fencing/

Is the outer fence electrified? I thought not at first - no insulators on the posts- but then it looked like you have it connected to your solar charger?

@dooleyhomestead

Жыл бұрын

Yes, the outer fence is electrified. The outside posts are plastic posts with hooks, so no insulators are required.

Ummmm...I'm not seeing a battery with your setup. As I understand it, you DO need one, correct? or am I missing something? Thanks in advance for your response.

@dooleyhomestead

2 жыл бұрын

The solar electric fence controller (at 2:52) contains a battery. It's an all-in-one charger, battery, and shock pulser.

is the outer line electrified? If not, wouldn't the first line the deer touched be a line that should be electrified.

@dooleyhomestead

Жыл бұрын

The outer line is electrified too. You can see the line around 0:56 kzread.info/dash/bejne/fYpmr5iGidq6hps.html

The deer have totally destroyed all of my gardens this year. Is the best place to buy this kit from The Tractor Supply Store?

@dooleyhomestead

2 жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry to hear that! You should be able to get everything you need from Tractor Supply if you have one nearby. As I recall, their grounding rods are really expensive compared to hardware stores. You can also use the links (affiliate) in the article to purchase online. www.dooleyhomestead.com/cheap-garden-fencing-to-keep-deer-out-cheap-deer-fencing/

@BrooklynDave718

2 жыл бұрын

@@dooleyhomestead thanks so much for the links. I’ll try anything at this point.

@dooleyhomestead

2 жыл бұрын

@@BrooklynDave718 No problem. It's worked wonders for us.

How is this holding up since install?

@dooleyhomestead

4 ай бұрын

We take it down and move it around as needed, so it's not in the same place if you're asking about long-term durability. Long-term effectiveness is 100% - no deer.

how far do u put your t post apart

@dooleyhomestead

2 жыл бұрын

On ours, the metal T-posts on the back were 22 ft apart (split distance of 44 ft) and the sides were 17ft apart (split distance of 34 ft)

How do you control smaller animals such as rabbits

@dooleyhomestead

3 жыл бұрын

Good question! I would consider adding 2-ft-tall chicken wire (or similar) around the inner fence. 2-feet of protection is usually enough to deter rabbits.

@freelancePM

3 жыл бұрын

@@dooleyhomestead thank you.

Does it work for moose?

@dooleyhomestead

3 жыл бұрын

Gosh - I'm not sure; we don't live that far North! :) But, do let us know if you try it.

What part of mi are in in ?

@dooleyhomestead

Жыл бұрын

We're in the Niles area - (Southwest MI)

What about rabbits and gophers?

@dooleyhomestead

3 жыл бұрын

I would consider adding 2-foot tall chicken-wire (or similar) around the inner fence. That way, a gopher would have to crawl over it (and get shocked at the ~24inch inside line), and 2-feet of protection is usually enough to deter rabbits.

What about raccoons and rabbits ?

@dooleyhomestead

Жыл бұрын

I would consider adding 2-foot tall chicken-wire (or similar) around the inner fence. That way, a raccoon would have to crawl over it (and get shocked at the ~24inch inside line), and 2-feet of protection is usually enough to deter rabbits.

A bow and arrow would be cheaper. 😀👍

How does someone think a deer moving at 40 mile per hour would respect fishing line ???? Its like a spider web to a deer ! Where did these people grow up anyway ????? Furthermore... where do these people think an electric fence is going to stop or even slow a deer ????? Build a common woven wire fence about 9 feet tall..... much better results !

It needs to be electrified. You'll have deer test it. Leave one gate wire down or have one of those corner posts arcing to ground and they eat your garden. They're like those velociraptors in Jurrasic Park. They'll test your fence. They love filbert, apple, blueberry etc.

@dooleyhomestead

Жыл бұрын

You're probably right!