The main thing that is clear to me is that Karl shoots really well with any cue or shaft.

@zanethind

9 күн бұрын

Yeah he's a pro it's not the cue it's the player

@CFCseventy

8 күн бұрын

Yes I like his comments on the pool matches knows what he’s talking about and a top player

@jasonparker6138

8 күн бұрын

Yeah he'd be fine with one of those graphite cues from the 90s. The original carbon shaft.

Would be interesting to see a part 2 video with a proper tip and deflection measurements.

@KarlBoyesPoolLife

7 күн бұрын

Agree 😀🤙🏼

Not bad Karl for that money , good idea for some house cue shaft for when friends call over

@KarlBoyesPoolLife

10 күн бұрын

Good idea

I bought the same shaft from AliExpress. Tip was crap so I changed it. Deflection wise it is not that good. But now I use it as my break shaft. Taom tip on it and it breaks perfect. I owned a Cinergy, Revo and now I went to Mezz Ignite. The cheap shaft has nothing to do with a high end shaft. But as a break shaft you do nothing wrong. Keep your diet running Karl! Greetz Thomas

@gorillaj131

10 күн бұрын

Bought the exact same I put a kamui sai tip on mine it works fine

@dverschoor84

10 күн бұрын

I really like the Cynergy shaft.

@jeremyowens4115

9 күн бұрын

How you liking that mezz? I'm considering one, currently using their sigma.

@NSSB75

9 күн бұрын

@@jeremyowens4115 Oh funny, I started with the Sigma in 12.5mm and then got an Ignite to test it. I switched immideatly to the Ignite and I think I will never go back. But you have to have a decent stroke because of the 12.2mm diameter. And to be honest, it is expensive. But for me worth the price

@llltrac9143

8 күн бұрын

@@jeremyowens4115 The Ignite a little bit heavy. I play with no weight bolt on my Mezz and it make my cue a little top heavy. I end up bought a 11.9mm Go Customs to use as my main and the Ignite as backup.

The shiny or matte really has nothing to do with the smoothness at all. Besides, most carbon fiber shafts come with a matte finish and get a bit more shiny. The biggest scam in all of pool is the cost of shafts. It is ridiculous. So let's get this straight - Karl uses a shaft for an hour, which is different from his other shaft, and he can make a really good judgement on this shaft? Hmm. I don't think so. Play with it for a few days and get really used to it then come back and be honest. And the tip thing is a personal preference. This is not to say that this shaft is really good - but the FACT that people are paying very high prices for carbon fibers shafts and this relatively cheap shaft performed fairly well with a tip Karl didn't like proves my point.

@tonyroberts8772

6 күн бұрын

I had a similar thing with a shaft from fleabay. Fixed the ferrule and tip and it now makes a decent break/jump cue.

ok healing is a Chinese manufacturer that sells the unfinished tubes on their website. There's likely a few different people finishing and selling them with different ferrules and joints. This looks like a great shaft for any amateur cue makers that want carbon or don't want to turn their own shafts.

Pretty much all carbon shafts from the top manufacturers have a matte finish, it gets glossier/darker the more you use it.

@cristianchan314

10 күн бұрын

Yeah, I think only the whyte shafts are shinny.

@procrastinator6902

9 күн бұрын

McDermott Defy comes with a shiny coated shaft that feels really sticky on the hand, I didn't like it at all when I tried it.

@st13212

9 күн бұрын

@@procrastinator6902 Yeah, I didn't either. They said they made a new finish on the McDermott that made it better, but we will see.

First...thanks for this video....I have the same shaft and have a black ferule..as you said ..very dificult to aim and go near to the cue ball without touching it.. I take of the tip and put 3 white pads an a new tip...now I saw better when aiming....goid video 👍

Thank you Karl for the demo and descriptions of the various feels on the pottings. Agree with you about the black ferrel!! This would be a nice option to provide for friends who stop by and wish to shoot with a carbon fiber shaft that I have adapted to one of my 2 piece cues.

I have several ok healing carbon shafts. You can get them customized many ways (white juma ferrule, various joint types, various tapers and lengths). M65 and M67 are incredible.

Bought one over a year ago of ebay. Bought it primarily to leave the cue the car from 10-95 deg F. Not a real LD cue, but just like any other shaft, it takes getting used to. Good video.

Thanks for this video! I just bought three of these. A break shaft a jump shaft and a shooting shaft. And have been looking everywhere for a review on these

@Rickbearcat

8 күн бұрын

You aren't looking for a review. You are looking for someone to confirm your purchase.

It’s amazing how people are different. I myself much prefer the black ferrule. The white ferrule is distracting to me. My revo is black ferrule and when I order other CF I request a black ferrule I also like unshiny Matt finish so I’m going to order this lol 😅

@xanh350

9 күн бұрын

I hate white ferrule so much… it’s same color as the cueball and sometimes I even foul using a white ferrule 😅

@KarlBoyesPoolLife

9 күн бұрын

Wow that’s amazing and very true hahaha

@xanh350

9 күн бұрын

@@KarlBoyesPoolLifemate can you give me the link for this specific shaft. I found other ones from okhealing which are white ferrule and I couldn’t find the 12.4 black ferrule uni loc. I searched the same name and can’t find it

Can you please try Rhino? A lot of people have been saying good things about it but never a video review.

@Hannes123fly

9 күн бұрын

I own 2 rhino shafts. Deflection seems very comparable to a revo 11.8 with a 12.2 diameter. The standard tip is bad in my opinion, but with a how medium it plays great and does not have the tingy sound the older revos have.

I bought mine from Aliexpress and I changed the tip to a kamui and it plays awesome.

My friend bought a OK Healing jump cue from Temu and he likes it he just changed the original tip because he didn't like it. Another friend of mine's bought his new cue set from a Temu I believe or similar like that and it's good and it works. For beginners that want carbon I'd recommend

I prefer the black ferrule myself. the white is almost distracting, but it's all personal preference.

@TJKellyJr

6 күн бұрын

I've had my carbon fiber with black ferrule for 2+ years and I love it!! And I put a kamui black tip on it with the clear backing, looks sharp

Really good video, thanks for the comparison

I actually also bought one from the same seller 2 days ago as back-up shaft. 😁 Instead of adding a white ferrule, i plan to change the tip to a light grey like Ultraskin soft tip

Of course the finish looks good. The only tubes not made in China are Mezz; they’re made in a golf factory in Japan. Quite a few brand name carbon shafts have a matte finish. Whyte is glossier than most and uses a different wrapping technique than most. Stiffness has very little to do with deflection. It’s the front end mass. Finishing the tubes (foam etc) is what differentiates most carbon shafts. If that doesn’t deflect much, and I suspect it actually does, because early on you missed several shots with side and may have begun to compensate, then you got lucky. I’ve tried cheap carbon shafts direct from China that have more deflection than a South West shaft.

Karl Boyes real secret to a successful gameplay finally revealed in this video. The real secret is in the carbon fibre Boss slides to help with stance and balance. 🤭 Loved the video 🕶️🙌

❤ id love to try the 13.9 for a break shaft or jump shaft!!!

Question, did you get your Whyte carbon shaft brand new? or is this still the one you got from Fedor? Because typically all the carbon fiber shafts get glossier and darker as you play with it longer, a good example was FSR's What's in the Bag episode you did with him, his old shaft vs the new backup.

@KarlBoyesPoolLife

9 күн бұрын

I got mine new and the finish is completely different to this Temu one

TIGER FORTIS CARBON SHAFT. Carl you really need to try this. I cant say enough how good this shaft is.

Think it would work for breaking if you changed the tip?

Any carbon shaft sanded to 3000 will be smooth and shine

I got a predator revo with a black ferrule... I hated that feature to a point where I end up selling it and got one with a white ferrule. It really makes it difficult for me to play. Maybe that is why they come with a yellow (or orange) tip on it lol

Do another video and break the Temu shaft in half and show us what it is made of. Or cut it in half. I always wondered if they are really made out of carbon or some fake stuff.

I like your table, Carlboy.

@KarlBoyesPoolLife

7 күн бұрын

Thanks 🤩

KARL IS THE WHYTE CARBON SHAFT THE BEST ONE TO BUY? PLEASE EXPLAIN YOUR OPINION........ ALSO WE NEED A WHAT'S IN THE BAG WITH FEDOR GORST

What‘s the sandpaper block thing you used? Seems handy

@poobum1966

9 күн бұрын

Looks like a sanding sponge, get them from a hardware store

I bought some off temu. Radial pin. $60. Plays pretty good

@LetsTravelOurWorld

9 күн бұрын

Here is the deal. The pros, who get paid fairly well to endorse expensive shafts, do not want you to know many of these shafts are way overpriced. They don't want you to know that a fairly cheap shaft can actually play pretty well.

Please tell us about other shafts you have tested

Same shaft like mine but i have 11.8mm

Have to get yourself some calipers pal, temu shaft looks way bigger than 12.4! Great review tho and good if you pool halls want more durable house sticks

Lmao this is going to get good

Thanks for the video, I wish you did a deflection test like Drdavebilliards does on his channel with your good cue as a control.

@Rickbearcat

8 күн бұрын

I would estimate that this deflects at least an inch and a half using Dr. Dave's standard test.

nice video , there this one i been eyeing on Raven Carbon shaft like the raven logo they have it 199.00 dollar Ebay ,

@shannonpichay3988

9 күн бұрын

My brother and I got the raven break/ jump cue. They feel and play great, specially for the price.

I bought the break shaft then bought a complete cf cue from them. Idk what people are saying about defflection being bad. Only bad thing is the shooting cues tip and even then i been playing it just fine

Table top looks good. Why did you change it?

It needs to place the white ferral for it to make it easier for sighting.

I buy stuff from temu all the time. They have some decent stuff.

Just bought one for myself to test against my Cuetec. It'll probably go onto my Preoaidre butt to be used as a break cue. I'll post the results somewhere.

I plan to buy also that carbon Shaft in temu

Got an ok healing shaft 9mm to play English eight ball. Less deflection than my peradon one piece. Did change tip to a kamui medium snooker.

@Rickbearcat

8 күн бұрын

As an American, I have no idea what a "healing" shaft is. Can you explain that to me?

I’ve always wanted to buy one off temu to test out😂

is it possible to change ferrule as well or only the tip?

@KarlBoyesPoolLife

9 күн бұрын

You would need someone who is very skilled to do that

Is there a link to the one you bought, as there are so many sellers, so many different knockoffs

I have a brandless chinese carbon shaft with a 13.5mm tip that i pair with my mezz powerbreak kai. It’s amazing for roughly 100 USD

A decent cue repair guy can make put something on the shaft and polish it up. And.. mow deflection shafts get most of their effects by having very low weight in the front of the shaft. For 55 pounds, that is a steal. The 13.9 mm would make a cheap break shaft.

i know some people with okhealing as break cues and they’re pretty solid for that

I think it would be nice if you could put a different tip on it and maybe make another vid with a final opinion because we all know this tip is a bit os achilles heel

Please review the SMO when you can

What tool is he using to scuff up the tip?

Two things I really like about my Revo: 1) I’m a klutz and drop my cue quite often and there is no penalty for this with a carbon fiber shaft, and 2) the shaft is slicker than a greased pig, no glove, powder, etc. required. I do wear a glove here in the Philippines due to the really high humidity during the rainy season, although I could just wipe my hands and the shaft more oftern.

That sound can be removed with a polish machine. The black ferrule is OK. this video just proves that CB shafts are overpriced.

@LetsTravelOurWorld

9 күн бұрын

Oh absolutely. It is way out of control. The price of these shafts is ridiculous and the pros really don't want you to know you can get an off brand shaft relatively cheap and it plays well. You just have to get the tip you like and go from there.

I bought one with 9.5mm tip and 5/8x16 thread, since I needed to have 1/2 snooker cue to fit with the pool cue into the same case. Also OKHealing brand. I agree the tip was awful, replaced it with something better and now it plays fine. Mine has white and black ferrule, so no issue with blending colors. I am also not a fan of ash cues, so this one for snooker seems way better. So almost all positives, but one significant drawback - it seems to lack "power", for a lack of better term. I feel like strong shots are dampened somehow, as compared to my regular cues, both snooker (ash) and pool (kielwood). This seems like a great shaft for beginners, since it's not likely to get damaged when banging it with balls during practice or if oyu leave it in a car trunk overnight in winter. Easier to clean as well I believe. Thanks for the video Karl!

@haydenwalton2766

9 күн бұрын

and the join diameter was exactly the same ?

@MD-vy9jb

9 күн бұрын

@@haydenwalton2766 There is a small lip, but I don't really mind. You can't feel it when cueing. It could be the butt fault as well, since it came from a cheap, old cue.

You can put a ceramic coating on it. It will get rid of that sound and it will be smooth

@KarlBoyesPoolLife

7 күн бұрын

Ok thanks 🤩

They also make it with white ferrule - just not available on temu.

@onnyt60

6 күн бұрын

So where to order if not TEMU?

Kind of wonder how the feel would be after running down the shaft with Isopropyl alcohol.

So you play with whyte carbon shaft? The one with white coatibg or black one?

@thacasualpoolplaya

10 күн бұрын

aha someone didnt watch the video carefully. it was black.

Disclaimer if your a maple wood shaft player switching to carbon or even low deflection give it a week or so! You will immediately hate the way it makes you miss balls but its actually not the shaft its how you was aiming with wood that was the issue! Only think about the feel and consistency of hit not the all made or missed!!

How much that carbon shaft cost? Where you bought it from? It might sounds ok.

Should have put your usual tip on for the last third of the vid.

Make a good break shaft?! You agree? I'd get a 12.9mm,swap the tip and ferrule be done with it. Maybe you can paint it at the joint and polish or burnish it to a shine? Worth a shot. And I'm glad you said that about black ferrules. That big company(Pre....tor) gives you custom shaft options now and a white ferrule is now a option all though kinda thin.

@Rickbearcat

8 күн бұрын

Why do you not want to spell out the word Predator? Will the thought police come to your house and arrest you?

good to know. there must be a way to shine up that shaft

What about if you take one of those silver markers and mark the ferrule?

@trailerwookie

9 күн бұрын

I have a carbon fiber shaft and I took a white paint pen and drew a small perpendicular (not circumferential) line at the end of my ferrule to use as a "sight." It will eventually wear off, but it really helps me look down the shaft and focus for pinpoint accuracy.

What or you using to shape the tip , almost looks like like a sponge with sandpaper on it

@oscargonzales-ly5qe

8 күн бұрын

Yes it’s a sponge but with sandpaper attached. You can get those almost any hardware store for $6 or so. I’m in constructing and use them all of the time for sanding cabinets or trim. They have all kinds of grits available. I was impressed to see him use one of those on the tip. Great idea!

Would gladly play with it... Are you donating it Karl 😁. It would represent you in Kenya

@KarlBoyesPoolLife

6 күн бұрын

Maybe one day! 👊🏼

A link to buy this shaft ?

Is the part of the shaft below the tip called a ferrule or vault plate? And does anyone know the difference?

@exscalliber

9 күн бұрын

This is a bit of a trick question. A shaft may or may not have a vault plate which is essentially just a plastic disc between the tip and the ferrule. The ferrule actually goes into the shaft a little bit and can be anywhere from a few mm to an inch in length. Smaller shaft cues tend to come with brass ferrules or can be upgraded to titanium. Larger shafts generally come with a hard plastic/imitation ivory ferrule. It’s rare to see ivory ferrules and in my opinion are a shitty thing to be proud of owning. So to answer your question, it’s generally called a ferrule, but the shaft can sometimes have a vault plate like the predator Revo does.

@murahk123

9 күн бұрын

@@exscalliber My carbon fiber shaft only has a tip, vault plate, and then the shaft. No ferrule. It's the same with the Revo. It seems like you're wrong in terms of the order. It's either vault plate or ferrule and not both. Vault plate being more popular in carbon fiber shafts and ferrules with wood. It makes sense because why would a shaft need both a ferrule and a vault plate? They both provide separation between the tip and the shaft. Having both is redundant and not only costs more money to make, but makes the shaft heavier, adds to the length, and everything is calculated when making a shaft.

@exscalliber

9 күн бұрын

@@murahk123 we are actually both wrong, what I got confused with is a silencer pad. A vault plate is the predator way of saying it’s a ferrule for carbon shafts. They explain it in their support pages when googled. Either way, a silencer is not that uncommon with the Kamui clear being one of the most popular tips with a silencer. You are supposed to install the tip on the ferrule with the plastic attached. There are very few cues that have no ferrule and only a silencer pad. They are generally custom wood cues however. Every carbon fibre shaft has a ferrule since the only way to give the carbon pipe a flat surface at the tip is to have a ferrule or “vault plate” if you are Predators marketing department.

you found the predator revo blanks on temu lmao.

I think you can compare it better with JF shafts. Not with the SMO though.

Well you gave me one, plays well but not used it as much as I wanted... And you weren't bad against Jayson in the Scottish tournament...

Carl I need it

If ya only play bar tournaments or just pool hall don’t need a top brand but would recommend ya buy a top brand if ya a pro

@joehirst4347

9 күн бұрын

Just got 2 carbon shafts receantly ferule don’t bother it black but the tip is hard as hell

Who’s got the link

Do a review of the Whyte Carbon.

Hit it with some 10k grit sand paper. It'll shine it up and smooth it out

I have been trying to figure out a similar shaft from aliexpress which costs around $100 and can be custome made to 12 or 12.2m. But have in complete confusion whether I should order a Pro tapper or a conical for my old fury rp2 radial joint.. and the 690, 765 different lengths are all confusing with lock joint size 🥲

Karl please keep videos like this coming , so informative cant get enough of them. There are so many different carbon fiber shafts on the market is definitely overwhelming. I play with a predator cue and have 2 revo shafts i play better with the 11.8 than i do with the 12.4 but i like the pro taper on the 12.4 for the feel much better. But there is just something about the feel of both the shafts that i just don't like , hard to explain. I recently bought my wife a whyte carbon fiber shaft for her McDermott cue . She loves it. Im glad they make the shaft with interchangeable joints i will be buying in a uni for my predator cue. Whyte fit feel and play is on an entirely higher level than revo. I would love to see a video on the tiger fortis carbon. lots of hype on this shaft. But with only the one video I've seen on this shaft, i cant trust the source. Thank you karl with all you do for this sport .

i use a rhino one its not to bad get what u pay for

Lookin' a bit thinner there, karl!

@KarlBoyesPoolLife

9 күн бұрын

Slowly coming off

Did u leave those sandals in saudi 😂😂

@KarlBoyesPoolLife

9 күн бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

Change the Tip bro!

I have tried the same shaft, believe me the hall or home cues play the same. Do not waste your money and save them for any known cue brand.

It looks like a Carom-3C cue🤔

Just tipex the ferrule white

Worst carbon fibre cue I ever had was a go customs. So so so bad

Is it my imagination or @ 12:15 did the cheap shaft appear to have a white ferrule? It's clearly black at the end.

@KarlBoyesPoolLife

9 күн бұрын

Shaft on left is my personal shaft, Shaft on the right I think it was the tip that made it look lighter

im shooting with a jacoby kielwood shaft with standard tiger everest tip,it shoots great,the hell with carbon shafts.

@KarlBoyesPoolLife

9 күн бұрын

Might try one

Karl, I think you bought a Carom shaft.

Its not the arrow 🏹 its the Indian!

As long as I am concerned the mate finish it's supposed to be gone with a few hours of game. How about you giving the shaft to someone who play's it for some hours and then do a review video 👍🏼

@mrkes3000

10 күн бұрын

how come its supposed to be gone with a few hours of game?

@vervideos933

10 күн бұрын

@@mrkes3000 it seems like the friction with the hand or the glove makes the shaft loose his mate finish and become more glossy, for a Big example in the first "what's in the bag" of francisco sanchez ruiz he has 2 exact revo shaft and the spare one has that mate finish cuz I assume was almost never used, and the one which he was using has that glossy finish that karl claims in this video.

What was he laughing so hard about at the end?

@KarlBoyesPoolLife

10 күн бұрын

I lost my cue and looked for it for ten mins, only to realise I had lent it up against the tripod so I couldn’t see it because I thought it was one of the legs 🤣🤣🤣

@KingJ5dabears

6 күн бұрын

​@@KarlBoyesPoolLife That's a viking cue karl? I think I just ordered the same one looks nice!

Companies like Predator are very questionable for de sport. They buy alot of top players and equip them with their nonsense. And de low grade sheeple players will, of course, follow. Nothing beats a hand-made custom cue with a low deflection tapered, high grain count hard maple shaft. Sound, feeling, looks, feedback, maintenance during play ( its funny to see players run towards their towel after each shot ) are all in favour for wood shafts. And de biggest selling argument for carbon shafts, the low deflection, can - with de right taper - be achieved with wooden shafts aswell. Best example might be North Demon Cues.

Don't bash the shaft because you hate the tip. If nothing else, use it as a break cue, two for me, where is my card

can i have that ?

test w/Kamui or even better...Zan Premium soft

Wie gut man trifft entscheidet nicht der Queue sondern der Typ hinter dem Queue.

@KarlBoyesPoolLife

9 күн бұрын

Hmmmmmm