I really like the idea of being able to offset the high price of Canadian diesel with a 50/50 blend without needing a lot of stuff to get started,

I use a 90 gallon auxiliary gravity feed / pump into the main fuel tank of my 2002 F-350 7.3- I am just in the process of setting this up to purify the oil to make the black diesel! I do consider your videos top quality! I know your are as we used to Alaska to work in this same pic

I'd love to see a cheap way to do it so I can start burning the oil at work and save up for a centrifuge

I will watch any and all of your videos relating to making black diesel. Keep em coming.

Yes, do it!

Before spending a lot of money on equipment, Yes we need test comparisons , (do an oil analysis) to indicate just how clean the final oil would come out using filters VS centrifuge. Then we have to decide what micron level of contaminants are acceptable for totally safe to use in the diesel engine fuel system

Yeah definitely I enjoy watching something different. I use a small block Chevy oil pump and drill.

Thanks Rob🙏Keep up the great vids, You are covering a wealth of information, I have so many wants desires and concerns about my old girl, but you are creating an air of confidence for a lot of folks.👍👍

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. Glad guys are watching the videos. Now just to add to the following

Great idea for the comparison

I appreciate all of the videos and advice .where I use to work at a power plant we had filter carts also along with the centrifuge.. on the large gear box of a pulverizer we had filter carts installed to operate full time . So sure I like to see what you think.

Definitely interested, keep up the videos I love them

Can't wait for the centrifuge vs just filters . Then maybe a filtered and then centrifuge after. I run mine in a cheap vehicle so I just filter it through fuel filters twice and then in the vehicle too so 3 times. 10% petrol 20% diesel 70% oil.

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

I am hoping to do it in the next couple weeks. But I have a bunch of stuff to do this week on the shorty and my buddy Lukes truck

Would like to see the tote setup! Great vids and thanks for all you do!

Centrifuge vs filters would be awesome

try using a toilet paper oil filter setup. they are cheap to operate and give good results..

Love watching your videos and listening to your advice and input. As you know I've been playing with wvo for 12 years and just tonight I picked up on something in your sketch that I had never given consideration to. That was using a filter before the pump which I assume is a fairly large micron filter and intuitively I know that is to keep debris out of your pump. However I don't know that this had ever occurred to me. It seems so simple now an important but it took you drawing me a sketch to grasp the idea. Thank you so much for that. I would definitely like to see how clean you can get the oil with your filter setup and either the $70 pump or the small block Chevy pump, and then run that to your centrifuge to see if it pulls anything else out for a comparison.

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

Ya. It’s funny how some stuff is like that. ( happens to me too ) I have setup a lot of pumps / filters and such for all kinds of stuff Over the years. In the next years I will do a bunch of different setups hopefully to help a bunch of guys out

@largemarge1603

Жыл бұрын

@J, We operate a small organic teaching farm near the outskirts of Eugene, Oregon. Our pumps would starve if asked to suck through a filter. An impeller replacement is cheap, replacing the motor is expensive.

Definitely interested in your cheaper alternative idea! Maybe even put a parts list in the description. I’ve been collecting oil for awhile now. Looking to run it in my 03 tdi!

@gregstuchley6657

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent idea about a parts list. I’m looking to run my 04 Isuzu! 👍🇦🇺

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

I will put a list for sure

@AverageJoesracingteam

Жыл бұрын

Do you have an alh or bew? I've run a 70/30 mix in my alh a good bit

I use 2 inline Wix filters from barrel to my tank after that I draw through two 2 micron Baldwins before going through my secondary FASS Fuel lift pump and one more Baldwin between the lift pump and P-pump. I replace ALL of them after every empty tank which is a 150 gallon/568 Liters baffled tank from a old Kenworth W900L

Interested in seeing a comparison between the centrifuge and filter filtration. Not sure how to test the cleanliness but would be cool to see how it compares side-by-side

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

I am going to send samples in and have them tested. Only 20 bucks Sample

@largemarge1603

Жыл бұрын

@Eddie, Both instead of either.

@medicament7684

Жыл бұрын

Where you send it fore test

I would love to see the results!

I sure would like to see you build this. You talked about running it through the center fuge after, I would like to see that too. Really thinking about running wvo in my old Mercedes. Thanks

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

If you check out the video’s in this playlist I did build a cart with pump and filters on it. But I have more testing to come

@largemarge1603

Жыл бұрын

@@CUTTERUPROB Sample tests to compare systems? . Eugene, Oregon. The Caterpillar dealer has a pump test room. We sample our fluids quarterly -- oils, coolant, steering. Our reason: * testing is cheaper than an unscheduled re-build.

hello from Calgary

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

Welcome!

I like the dual stage filter. Really think it would be beneficial for keeping a low micron flowing and you'd be able to swap out the higher micron more frequently. Do you know of housings for the filters listed in your shop that would fit the filters listed there? Also, potentially a stainless steel screen filter on the inlet would prevent clogging a $20 filter. Some folks like to get leaves and rocks in the oil the give you just for the fun of it.

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

Just out this video CHEAP FUEL Black diesel filtering on a cart kzread.info/dash/bejne/pot8o7eGYdfAdZM.html

Jajaja this is awesome!!!

I would love to have a rig I can keep in my garage and pump a couple 5 gallon buckets into my tank and then go for a fillip at the diesel station

Yes do a budget system!! I have a 5gal bucket with a manual rotary pump $70 and a 5 micron filter. I feel I can filter it better maybe with heat and 2 micron? More filters the better?

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

I am not sure heating it will make it clean better but I guess we can try and see if it does

Yes.

my brother and i have been running used oil for fuel for about 10 years. It absolutely 100% needs to be clean and even more important no water. we dont store the oil we drain it filter it mix it 50/50 and run it through a water block filter and then use it asap.

Crazy idea but go with it for a minute, Imagine having a filtration system that could function as you drive your truck and fill your regular tank, Have a dirty oil tank mounted and fill it up from different mechanic shops, Then filter the dirty oil as you drive using your truck for power, Then you would just need to develop a system of adding clean diesel to keep your tank at a 50/50ish blend, This is the future man haha.

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

I have thought of doing thought. Only thing I don’t like is if you get a bunch of water of coolant it hard to filter that. One of my friends has a set up like that

@AverageJoesracingteam

Жыл бұрын

This is how cp Steve does it in his 12 valve while he is doing hot shot runs. He has a filter on his pump that collects the oil in his 55 gallon drums in the back of his truck, then has a couple more filters that it goes through before it hits his truck fuel tanks. Then has 2 filters under the truck . Finally, it goes the through the filter just before the engine. He's run his 5.9 for thousands of highway miles like this. Even burning coolant and all. I was was nervous when I started running a blend through my tdi because it never seemed consistent but Steve even says, from one tank to the next it runs different because sometimes you have gear oil , synthetic, ....

ive tried the no pre filtering in my 3.9 cummins doesnt work unless you enjoy pulling injectors every two weeks to clean them im currently set up with a 6 stage filter apparatus 55 gallon barrel full of clothes to get big chunks, unknown micron hydraulic filter then a 20 micron water absorbing filter, 10 micron cotton string water filter, 5 micron cotton string water filter, and finally the 4 micron cat equivalent so far it is working pretty decent. Also im doing a 50/30/20 oil,diesel,gas mixture.

@largemarge1603

Жыл бұрын

@Wyatt, What are your finished costs after accounting for replacement filters, etcetera? What color is your exhaust tip interior?

@wyattcollins6755

Жыл бұрын

@@largemarge1603 not sure ill have to figure it all up. The house water filters didnt hold up the housings cracked either oil or sunlight so ive changed my set up a bit. still using 20 micron water absorbing media filter (baldwin bf956), upgrading to r12t marine water separator 10 micron(found on ebay $22usd with housing), then for the 2 micron im using Cim Tek 72230 has a 1"-12 thread(found this at tractor supply along with its proper housing about $65usd. i will update when i figure initial start cost and the cost per gallon. estimated 500-600 in housings filters and transfer pump.

I would really like to see this filter setup👌I would like a recommendation on a pump best suited for used veggie oil, perhaps cutting it a bit with diesel and gas prior to lower viscosity. Either way keep up the good work. Are you heating your oil before centrifugal filtration? Thanks 👍👍

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

I will be doing veg oil soon. I have dig a tote of it out. Right now I am not heating be the centrifuge. But I am going to try it and see if it helps

@largemarge1603

Жыл бұрын

@@CUTTERUPROB Heat the fluid to reduce viscosity. Your pumps will last decades instead of hours. And pump the warm fluid through the filters, instead of risking starvation by hoping to suck through a filter. Of course, with a big enough pump motor and a fan to cool it, that theoretical pump could suck gravel through a cast-iron skillet...

I'm interested, right now I'm only filtering my oil for my 12v and tractor doing 66% oil, still waiting for the centrifuge to arrive, but on are semis we're just screening it and adding 20 to 30 gals a week depending on how much we have access to,

I'd definitely be interested in the centrifuge and filtering comparison. I'm also curious how your first centrifuge worked. I believe it's a pressure style? My plan is a centrifuge and motor combination from PA biodiesel. The pressure style.

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

The last pressure one I used is a small pa diesel unit. I still have it

@nix4me69

Жыл бұрын

@@CUTTERUPROB yeah I saw it in one of your recent vids. I'm curious how well it worked compared to your new one.

I have just started running 20% gas blended with used oil and then filtered. Truck runs great! I'm still working on a centrifuge so as not to have to buy filters. I'm interested in what different options you have to show

@ahrmaquiet2041

Жыл бұрын

Which year model is your truck and which company manufactured your car?

@1979gmcummmins

Жыл бұрын

@@ahrmaquiet2041 it's a first gen cummins with the V.E pump. I put it in a 1979 gmc crew cab dually

@ahrmaquiet2041

Жыл бұрын

@@1979gmcummmins thank you very much, but can I use it in any modern diesel truck?

@1979gmcummmins

Жыл бұрын

@@ahrmaquiet2041 I wouldn't recommend using any diesel with the electronic injectors but I could be wrong. Rob could direct you better than I can

@ahrmaquiet2041

Жыл бұрын

@@1979gmcummmins thank you very much. I appreciate your help.

👍👍 good stuff man,... keep it up..your channel is growing 👍👍👊

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man. Ya #ontherodtoamillon

Will a 1/2 micron sock / gravity filter stop water from passing through?

I’m interested in what your planing on doing. Hopefully you go through with it. Would this work for p pumps and vp pumps?

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

Yep will work with most diesels at the right ratio

As a follow up to my previous comment on using WVO, do you have a recommendation for a "pre-filter" for the pump that is stainless and cleanable? Some of my WVO has crumbs / flour / crusties and I would like to have a 100 micron stainless inline or canister filter that I can clean. Thanks!

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

When I do the cart filter setup I will be talking about just this. I will be filming that video hopefully tomorrow

Think I'd be ok running used oil in my 04 common rail cummins? I have a fass on the truck and I'd like to build the filter set up you were talking about.

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

I have run lots of it in my commonrails over the years. That said i don’t recommend running it as heavy. 50-50 is the heaviest I would run it. I will be doing some video’s shortly about it.

Hello. I have been enjoying your videos. My dad had told my back in the day that they had a Frantz Filter. I looked it up and they still make it. They claim that is down to 2 micron using 🚽 toilet 🧻paper It is not a centrifuge 🌀but do you think it will work? I like the idea that you are sharing about a tote box pump 👍 So what do you think 🤔🤔

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

yep that would work as well

Hey Rob👋 which centrifuge model are you using now? Im saving up for one and am wondering how much better the “extreme” model performs. Thanks again👍👍

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

I have the extreme model. I honestly don’t know how much better it is over the standard one. But the standard one will only run 3000 the extreme runs 6000rpm and is variable speed. The extreme is 220v the standard is 110v. So might depend on what you have for power

I kinda like the idea of useing the FASS fuel system for WMO... the only question I have is it gonna clog up fast?

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

really depends on how dirty the oil is, i like the bigger filters for that reason more junk will get filtered

Yes I'd like to see how clean we can get oil. I know you can run oil in a 12 valve but can we clean it enough to run in a common rail

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

I have run 1000’s of gallons in all of them. Ve/ ppump/ vp44/ commonrail’s. But with the commonrail it must have no dpf. I need to do a video on this

@cammomudder

Жыл бұрын

@@CUTTERUPROB cool my 04 has no emissions. I'm seriously thinking about black diesel as an option to these ridiculous fuel prices.

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

@@cammomudder 100% i will be doing some diesel stuff in the next couple weeks.

Besides your own where would you buy used oil? Clearly you can only do this at home before you set off, but it’ll add up and be well worth it throughout the year.

Should you use heat the fuel in the filter or fuel line when running black diesel? if so what should i use

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

you can , but is the mix is good you dont need too

Some what off topic. What about filtering stored normal diesel? I have a 100gal tank I use on the farm for a kubota tractor with a mechanical pump that looks similar to a P-Pump. I also fill two 05 jeep libert;y CRDs from this tank. I avoid using it with my 2018 ram 3500. It has a diaphragm hand pump and a goldenrod 596 filter head with a baldwin BF956 filter. Its 17micron nominal with water absorbent media. I change the filter every year and the tank might get refilled 6 times a year or so. I have never had issues with this setup But think it slightly lacking for the jeep CRD's and greatly for the 2018 6.7 Cummins. Thinking of changing to two goldenrod cartridge housing(clear plastic type) 1st one with a fine SS mesh 2nd with 30 micron water block. Then an electric pump. Then a donaldson P550847 10 micron BF1212 would fit here as well. Then a CAT 1R-0750. This setup would probably also work great for black diesel. My current setup uses 3/4in NPT and I would like to keep using it, is there a filter head/housing for the CAT 1r-0750 that would accept pipe fittings that size?

@CUTTERUPROB

7 ай бұрын

I personally run as tight as filters as I can any time I filter the fuel. The golden rod for the water stop and a cat fuel or a equivalent would work just fine. I generally will just build everything to run the same filters when I do a setup for someone. That way you only have to stock one size of filters. The housing I use a oring boss. But you can buy adapters to go from that to not

Opinions on running old kerosene and used motor oil in a p pump 12 valve

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

I have with no problem

@bradleyhubbartt3934

Жыл бұрын

@@CUTTERUPROB okay sweet thank you, think I’ve got access to a couple hundred gallons of kerosene I think

I bought a centrifuge. Looking to purchase a Fass lift pump. I have a 01 Cummins. Will my VP44 injection pump survive? Have u tried it in the 24v?

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

i put 50k on one running it and know a couple guys that do it, but i only run a 50/50 mix

I would at least appreciate a parts list of a filter setup!!!!!

Has anyone ever tried to use the sand filter from a small swimming pool?? Since you can put what ever kind of filter media you want in one it just might work fairly well.

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

As long as the media isn’t breaking down from the oil / gas or diesel I sure you can

I'm curious, I have access to several hundred gallons of used oil. However it has residual nitromethane in it as well. What are your thoughts? Thank you

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

A small amount of nitro I don’t think work hurt anything. As long as it not a large amount as it corrosive ( witch I sure you know )

@henryfreeman4017

Жыл бұрын

@@CUTTERUPROB yes sir thanks for the insight

How much was the centrifuge? And yes I'd love. To see the cheaper alternative

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

2600-2700 cad

Hi I was wondering if you know If the fass will work for wmo I have one and wasn’t sure if it would? Fass wouldn’t say when I called the for spec’s

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

They will

@bdreynolds459

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for getting back to me and also would you recommend using it to run with it

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

@@bdreynolds459 I have run one on lots of trucks

@bdreynolds459

Жыл бұрын

Thank you again keep the awesome videos coming

Be aboat ⛵ $40AUD for 5 gallon US. wot aboat heating the oil and circulating thru metal screen with filter paper and couple cups of diatomaceous earth for 30 mins like they do for fryer oil? Supposed to filter down 0.5 of a micron and take water water out. I like to see you do this and after run thru centrifuge, cheers from Australia

@theaussienurseflipper.8113

2 жыл бұрын

Diatomaceous earth cheap from pool shop

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

I have found that the water style filter don’t do the job the way I want that’s why I use filters designed for oil and fuels. But you can use a filter that cleanable. I show a couple options that I have used

Can i run kerosene in my 12 v or 05 24 v ? Its cheaper here than diesel…. This bio diesel im using now is almost gone that my friend made last year before he passed- i got no clue what his recipe was.. its not used oil. Its not ff oil.. its a light brown in color with a hint of diesel. It burns nice and think its cleaner than diesel.. i think im getting better mileage out of it too

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

He likely was make bio diesel witch I used to make. It’s just a bunch of work. I will will show how to do it as well at some point. And yes you can run kerosene I would just add some 2 cycle oil to it 100 to 1 ratio is what I used

@jackzeilsdorff3164

Жыл бұрын

@@CUTTERUPROB i bet it was a lot of work. Seems super clean. Diesel here is just under $6 gal I haven’t bought diesel since last October but my supply is almost gone. Time to make a batch. Looking forward to more videos!

I'm in the states and would like to see a system that cleans well enough (without centrifuge) to run straight into my indirect injection diesel without using a two tank system. Filter it enough to run into my tank.

@8lugoffroad751

Жыл бұрын

And I have tank enough to allow it to settle awhile before pumping.

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

You don’t have to run two tanks the way I mix it. I like to run two tanks one for extra capacity and the other in the winter here it can be pretty cold so I run money diesel

@8lugoffroad751

Жыл бұрын

@@CUTTERUPROB Can you break it down and make like a parts or process list? Something we can copy. Thanks in advance.

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Battery be better I think..

I see varying commentary as to whether its possible to use synthetic waste MO or not . Some say , cant be done at all . Others dont mention anything at all about avoiding using it . The reason I ask is that i can get plenty of used synthetic but vitually no mineral oil . Whats your thoughts on this matter ?

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

I run a mix of it as I would say 60-70% of oils now are synthetic. I have never run 100% synthetic ( well that I know of) I would run some and see what happens. Only difference is the synthetic is a bit hard to get a complete burn so it runs a bit dirtier

@ljprmc

Жыл бұрын

@@CUTTERUPROB good onya . cheers les

Hi i just want to filter black color light diesel oil to turned into waterwhite color kindly help me?

@CUTTERUPROB

9 ай бұрын

I have never done it. I have looked in to it. But never had time

Has anyone here have experience in using diatomaceous earth to filter oil? Vs filter screen media or centrifuge?

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

I haven’t

@digitalbilly

Жыл бұрын

@@CUTTERUPROB theres a product called Magnesol.. its used the the veggie oil community says it can filter down 3-5 micron kzread.info/dash/bejne/q41ruchtp9rJZLw.html

Also your diesel is sub $2 😢😢 I'm in bc and it's $2.50

@CUTTERUPROB

Жыл бұрын

Ya that’s even crazier

@zachscott4867

Жыл бұрын

What! Mine in Northern California is $6.50 US per gallon. Thanks for the info.