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@alecmajor9

8 ай бұрын

Wow

@eanonmcmickle2162

8 ай бұрын

Ay the first shotgun i got was a 320 years back when they first came out it is crap but its RUNS i have 1,000 maybe over it ant bad

@SmokesKwazukii

8 ай бұрын

try burning down a Stoeger shotgun! P3000 is based on the Benelli Nova i believe

@starpoint2112

8 ай бұрын

@tfbtv - I have that same shotgun but with a pistol grip. For the money it is RELIABLE and for home defense it is good. It will also shoot those mini shells which kick about 60-65% less than normal 2 3/4 shells. And you can do 9+1 of those. If you are on a budget then yeah get this one.. but be sure to spend some range time to limber it up and do what I did. Before I assembled it I lubricated it some then limbered it up at a range, cleaned it and re-lubricated it.

@jeffmodesitt3233

8 ай бұрын

Stoeger M3000 please. They make a 3 gun version the M3K. But any variation will do.

Love how the mavrick 88 for only $60 more is an amazing shotgun that made it through his burn down with flying colors

@JamesReeves

8 ай бұрын

The more of these shotguns I review the more I respect the Maverick 88. Five years ago, my elitist tendencies would not have allowed me to touch a Mav. That video ended up resulting in a blooming relationship of mutual respect with Mossberg, even though I was raised in a Remington household.

@brandonrupp5880

8 ай бұрын

Everyone leaves the nest eventually.

@rsilvers129

8 ай бұрын

It's not only $60 more. It is more than double the price.

@mariomoso1059

8 ай бұрын

@@JamesReevesmossberg are more versatile than remington, remingtons are really hard to modify

@benn454

8 ай бұрын

​@@rsilvers129James got the Mav 88 he used in the burn down for $180. 180 - 120 = 60

WTF, i paid almost twice as much for LPA ghost ring sights for my Benelli M3 Super 90 than you did for the whole shotgun... and it actually works

@deletdis6173

8 ай бұрын

O word

@f308gtb1977

8 ай бұрын

Žiga, we watched a different video, ‘cause I didn’t see it “work.”🤣

@VinhTran-lu6gm

8 ай бұрын

Its not 120 its double that . Try rock island next ime lol

@davidguy7335

8 ай бұрын

@@VinhTran-lu6gm Wow the price jumped. It was $147 at Walmart in 2019.

@TheKalkara131

8 ай бұрын

@@f308gtb1977 Idk, the video I skimmed and skipped to the end of said that it actually survived and wasn't that bad. To the point that he said if you had to use this for home defense, it's not a terrible choice

I remember 5 years ago I bought a Maverick 88 and a 25 round box of shells for $200. The thing has literally never malfunctioned.

@petegibson79

8 ай бұрын

That's been my experience too. Bought it 15 years ago and used it lots. Not a single malfunction or misfeed, and I've hunted everything short of sasquatch with it.

@chazmichaelmichaels88

8 ай бұрын

Same with my mossberg 500. Been poorly cleaned twice in its entire life, little bit of barrel rust. Has NEVER failed.

@deanwest2744

8 ай бұрын

In 2014 I bought a "used" (but it didn't look like it had been fired) Mossberg 500 with a 20" barrel and a 2-shell tube extension (7+1 cap) for $150. Now, you can't touch that gun for under $400. Edit: From the same pawn shop in the same week, I also bought a Saiga AK made by Izhmash in Russia with 4 mags (2 x 10 rnds, 2 x 30 rnds) and 150 rounds of crappy 7.62 Russian surplus ammo for $200. I still own both guns and they still run great. I miss the the days when guns and ammo were inexpensive.

@atomic_wait

6 ай бұрын

@@chazmichaelmichaels88 I have a 590 Retrograde and live in a rainy state, owned it for 3 or 4 years. During one of my occasional detail strip and cleans I found the inside of the magazine tube, spring, and follower had rusted up a bit due to some moisture. Cleaned the spring and tube and got an aftermarket aluminum follower. Rust didn't cause issues, though.

@chazmichaelmichaels88

6 ай бұрын

@atomic_wait my rust experience was only very small spots on the outside of the barrel. Nothing serious enough to cause issues. Mossbergs are a must have.

I have a Stevens 320 that i bought in 2013. I haven't changed the barrel or any internals, and i have well over 7,000 rounds through it. Zero malfunctions as of today. I have abused the piss out of it. For the $180.00 I spent, I can say I'm very happy with that shotgun.

@waynealexis7680

4 ай бұрын

In Canada brand new was 480 I like it its on the cheaper end but fun and works well

@petemilecmilec1782

4 ай бұрын

Of course it does. It's ok Hun. This guy is just doing propaganda against Chinese product.

@user-ps3pr4dz4s

Ай бұрын

The gun sucks

@bassassassinnn7459

Ай бұрын

@user-ps3pr4dz4s my experience would say otherwise. More reliable than my Remington 870 and Mossberg 500, which I've had to gunsmith 2 times. That's just my experience, though. Do you have a 320? Or are you just basing your opinion on your thoughts?

@user-ps3pr4dz4s

Ай бұрын

@@bassassassinnn7459The 320 from China is a cheap piece of 💩. Have 2 of them. Metal is cheap. I know metal. I am a Machinist and A Hobbies Gunsmith. Have been into firearms since 1988. Have different shotguns. 500,830, 12&20 gage. 870 Express and Wind Master. Maverick 88, older Stevens, Sears , J.C. Higens, New England Firearms, Savage Arms. And European shotguns. 1300 Windcheater the old ones. So yes I know firearms. Also J.C Penny yes Sears and J.C. Penny sold firearms. I also have rifles with there names on them. Yes I am old but I know firearms. I am not an expert but I know what I am talking about. Google did not like the SHT. word💩.

Aside from some shells the gun didnt like, it actually worked. I'd rather have the Maverick, but hey, it survived.

@JamesReeves

8 ай бұрын

Basically this

@John_439

8 ай бұрын

Especially since a mav 88 is only 60 dollars more

@ab62051

8 ай бұрын

Well "survived" is a rather low bar to pass... SO would you bet your survival on a questionable piece of gear ?

@mikethurman3147

8 ай бұрын

Spoilers

@Joe-hz1nw

8 ай бұрын

@@ab62051to be fair, most people who would buy this and use it for defending their home would be in a financial situation where this would (pretty much) be their only choice. Generally pointing any gun at someone who breaks into your house will scare them off 98/100 times.

Watching James run cheap, "just-as-good" shotguns into the ground is so cathartic these days.

@sleigh4019

8 ай бұрын

Yeah bitch about 119$ shotguns yet go to thunder ranch shill a 1000$ century arms ak lol ..suurrreeee .. Wait tell me.there's a ammo shortage I gotta go buy some asap now tell me what company I need to buy lol .. Its just getting ugly

@brandonrupp5880

8 ай бұрын

He does it so we don't have to. James is a real trooper.

@owenblount7334

8 ай бұрын

It’s less “just as good” and more the gun equivalent of “beats walking”

@ncrrangerrolandtembo4615

8 ай бұрын

Bro it’s not just as good it’s Chinese 😂

@SailfishSoundSystem

8 ай бұрын

Yeah it's that or booze really.

My first shotgun was a cheap Chinese Norinco 982 with the ghost ring. Ran just like this one. Full disassembly and cleaning/lubing help shorten the break-in period. If you absolutely can't or don't want to spend the money on at least a Maverick 88 and will probably just keep it under your bed then this is good enough.

@Porty1119

8 ай бұрын

My first gun was a Norinco 982 with ghost ring sights. Still have it and love it.

@Lex5576

8 ай бұрын

Those....the Hawk 982.... are built like a tank, or at least mine is. It's basically the same as the H&R Pardner Pump Protector with a little bit different shaped receiver. All of them are 870 clones though, except the barrel. Metallurgy and fit and finish is fairly decent. The one I bought cycles like a champ.

@deanwest2744

8 ай бұрын

@@Porty1119 My first shotgun was a Mossberg 500. I still own it and a few other shotguns. Some are considered better than the 500, but there's something I love about the Mossy. It handles great. Eats any shells I've put in it. And the ergonomics are on point.

@cavemanfr

3 ай бұрын

Had a Norinco I got off a bounty hunter friend. He sent it to Scatter Gun Tech and had it gone over. 2 1/2 lb trigger pull, heavy mag spring and Remington parts fit. Was one of the better shotguns I've owned.

Several years ago I was working at a gun shop while attending college. I remember these Stevens 320's were good sellers, right behind the Maverick 88 7-shot Security models and the 18.5"/28" combo kits. The Stevens 320's at the time had different furniture than the one in the video. Some versions came with pistol grip stocks as well as there were field/security combo kits. I never saw any come back with problems, unlike some other cheap shotguns like Dickinson and Rock Island M5 shotguns.

@crabtrap

7 ай бұрын

Ya this host doesnt know actual fire mechanics. I do as an old gunsmith. The 320 is a solid rig

@johnstudd4245

7 ай бұрын

I bought a 320 4 years ago. It's got a conventional butt stock with a pistol grip. Also has nice ghost ring rear sight with a green fiber optic(I think that is what it is called) front sight. It has a ventilated barrel shroud also, mostly for cosmetic purposes I think, but if you are doing extended firing like this guy did I guess it could save you from being burned. It works great, I think its a nice package. I don't remember how much I paid for it but I think it was some where between $150 - $200. I am perfectly happy with it and would trust my life with it, using quality ammo that I know works well in it, of course, but that holds true with any defensive firearm.

@BeetleBuns

6 ай бұрын

I love my Stevens 320. Slapped a magazine tube extension on it and she holds 8+1 and runs all day.

@larrygguthrie6580

4 ай бұрын

Had a monster broke the racking rod.they replaced it under warranty my brother has the 320 and hasn't had a problem..go figure

The gun, James seemed to want to fail epically, makes it through 500 rounds. This is why I enjoy James’ content.

@Saintbow

8 ай бұрын

Remember his hi-point 380 video where he did everything to kill it...but it did not die... Now he has a shotgun to go with it!

Nice, another chapter in the on-going series called "Just buy a Maverick 88"

@30rdmaga

8 ай бұрын

Facts! 🎯🎯💯💯

@John_439

8 ай бұрын

Seriously for 60 more and you get a real shotgun from a good company.

@volk4523

8 ай бұрын

@@John_439 If you want to make that argument save for a 650 dollar Mberg 940. >takes mini shells >all the whistles of the 590 >it's semi auto >compatible furniture with some 590 aftermarkets

@hrvstmn31

8 ай бұрын

@@volk4523 Ngl my next shotty will be a 940, but you can get 3 88's for that price and that matters nowadays, especially with how loco ammo prices have gotten.

@volk4523

8 ай бұрын

@@hrvstmn31 I live in a poorer area, so the price of 650 may not be the accurate price area, most online retailers have unfortunately hiked to 790-850.

There has never been a James Reeves video where I have not laughed out loud at least once. Thank you for your content on all channels

I have a chicom made Pardner Pump that's a clone of the Remington 870 I paid $150 for years ago & it has worked flawlessly with any ammo I've tried except those mini shells it doesn't want to feed.

I picked up a Maverick this past spring because of your video. The younger guy behind the counter asked if I saw the TFB video on them. You've probably sold hundreds of 88's, and probably saved a bunch of heartache for folks looking at the turkish price tags.

@moobutt

8 ай бұрын

Best value in firearms. 🤘🤘🤘

@volk4523

8 ай бұрын

The Swedes just do it better.

@benn454

8 ай бұрын

​@@volk4523The 88 is made in Texas.

@volk4523

8 ай бұрын

@@benn454 Yes, this isn’t specifically about the 88, lol. On top of that, it’s a Swedish design company

@SailfishSoundSystem

8 ай бұрын

Like getting vodka hammered in steam baths and jumping into snow better?@@volk4523

"Three inch Magnum. What my wife calls me." was alone and of itself,worth watching the entire video. Thumbs Up.

@bidenisasnake9932

8 ай бұрын

That part of my life died some years ago with a bad dose of Cancer.

@sidviscous5959

8 ай бұрын

"a tug job outside the sock hop" almost made me blow 30-year old scotch all over my keyboard . . .

@Turbo_rito

8 ай бұрын

"hardest 2 3/4" HELL YEAH

@fei-hungwong9034

5 ай бұрын

I'm sure thats width not length in his case

I purchased 2 of these when they went on clearance at Academy for $119. One is a pistol grip/ghost ring sight model, the other is a combo with a 28” field/18” security barrel. The pistol grip one had a hairline crack on the lug under the barrel that the mag-tube goes in. I sent it in for warranty work and got it back 2 weeks later with a new barrel from Savage. Overall, I’m pretty happy with them. They are very utilitarian and no-frills.

I purchased a $200 Chinese shotgun in 2001 and it runs like a champ....i used it for sporting clays and deer hunting....the pump handle came loose once.....for home defence and a trip to the range once a year to stay familiar it would last a lifetime...mine ejects out the bottom and i do not think it ever jammed once

@tokivikerness8863

8 ай бұрын

You hunt deer with a shotgun?

@DaveBegotka

8 ай бұрын

@@tokivikerness8863 slugs and 00buck for close....you can shoot well over 100 meters with a slug

@darksu6947

8 ай бұрын

​@@tokivikerness8863A lot of people do.

@cadetrenew

5 ай бұрын

@@tokivikerness8863 A lot of people do. Last hunt with my buddy I had a .270 win and he had a Remington slug gun. And he has WAY more deer under his belt than I do.

@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13

4 ай бұрын

You’re supposed to hate China.

My father in law bought this a few years ago and it hasn’t had any issues. Here is the funny thing though. He said he bought it because it’s cheap, but then will drop the same amount of money in one night at a bar for dinner and drinks 🤦🏻‍♂️

@MizeryScratcher

8 ай бұрын

sounds good to me!

@kb9oak749

8 ай бұрын

I used to spend $120 a night just on drinks for myself in the 1990's. Yeah I was probably an Alcoholic. I was also much younger and lacked wisdom.

@justahologram2230

8 ай бұрын

​@@kb9oak749it's nowhere near the same challenge to hit a $120 bar tab these days

@Diogenes425

8 ай бұрын

The price of personal defense weapons should be relative to how much you think your life is worth. Reliability is a number one priority.

@iansanchez331

8 ай бұрын

Don't worry about how much he spends on drinks. Mind your business

$10 worth of skate tape on the pump with improve this drastically

I like the fact you are a DD Fan, I have a few myself.. I really liked your RC3 review as well, Game changer! Hope to see you @ shotshow in January!

I bought one of these in 2020 and being as it was 2020, it shot about a dozen different brands and loads of buckshot without issue. It performed flawlessly for around 300 rounds before I eventually sold it because i couldn't find any accessories.

@joshklaver47

8 ай бұрын

It doesn't need accessories.

Just a theory on the bioammo, if the shell itself is made of a softer material than normal plastic it may be jamming up because the chamber tolerance is too loose and it's allowing the shells to expand more. Could be an issue with the brass as well, but this is just a guess because I've never used the stuff. Side note, some grip tape on the fore grip would be a cheap and very useful upgrade

@ryannieva442

7 ай бұрын

Definitely an issue for me. The material definitely feels more flexible than Winchester (most solid plastic hills I've seen) or the Federal or S&B (about average hull) I normally shoot. The Bioammo I've used does typically hang up whenever I eject it.

@chrisfraser3121

5 ай бұрын

It appears that all the jams happen with bio ammo on all these cheap shotgun tests. I don’t doubt they are pieces of shit, but then don’t use piece of shit ammo too

@odeewalnuts6553

5 ай бұрын

It’s the ammo mines always does that with the black aces

I think it’s a good idea to move shotgun burn downs over here. They are awesome. Good luck growing this channel man I’m rooting for you !

@JamesReeves

8 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@jimyeats

8 ай бұрын

@@JamesReevesIs there a specific theme for whats on your channel vs the official TFB channel? Seems like you’re just keeping the less formal, and maybe a little bit sillier or less appropriate stuff on your channel.

@JamesReeves

8 ай бұрын

Definitely law+guns on my cannel. Shotgun burndowns here now. I'm thinking about keeping the "versus" series on here. Ultimately, what I would like to do is only reviews and interviews on TFBTV to be more journalistic, while opinion/goofing off/legal conversations are here.

My buddy had a super cheap lightweight pump action 12 gauge almost just like that and it was not fun to shoot lol. Excessive recoil because it’s so light and slick. Great video as always

Thank you for the video James. I do not have extensive experience with shotguns. That being said the very first time I shot one was on vacation when I was fourteen at Callaway Gardens and I got to shoot trap with my father. I personally over that and the following five days put almost six hundred rounds through a single shotgun that I got to pick from the rack. Little did I know at the time that I was beating the tar out of gun. By the end of the vacation my shoulder was a "bit tender" but I fell in love with trap through that outing. I have read of folks taking birding trips to south america where they shoot five hundred plus shells per day for a week or more so I guess a "real" shotgun is supposed to last tens of thousands of rounds. I had no idea a shotgun could fail with fewer than five hundred. That is just crazy cheap manufacturing. Learn something new every day. Cheers.

I inherited one of these from dad. Only reason its in my gunsafe is because it was my dads. I laugh because this gun reminds me of him. Stubborn, Cranky, but there when you need it.

This is rapidly becoming my favorite series. Never enjoyed shotguns until you introduced me to the A300 Patrol and now I own one and have put close to 500 rounds thru it in a month 😂

@JamesReeves

8 ай бұрын

Was I right? It's amazing, no?

@Longshot762x51

8 ай бұрын

Oh I love it! Ive owned a Maverick 88 for years but it was super unpleasant to shoot. With the A300 I can bust clays and run drills all day no worries. Thanks James!

@sonofnone116

8 ай бұрын

I want to pick up an A300 (and a 590S Shockwave) but i cant convince the wife i need more shotguns 😅

Bought this shotgun right when I turned 18 at a pawn shop and I polished all the internals and it does not skip a beat.

I love these videos. These r great! I would also love it if u did some burn downs of really cheap ARs or handguns

Funny story. Back in the day we had to supply our own shotty ammo for the police academy. They specifically said DO NOT buy magnums! Needless to say, during the night shoot we had a 3” magnum flame thrower. I have literally never laughed so hard on the range at someone else expense. That Remington 870 chugged it like a cold beer though. No issues.

@Mitsurugi2424

8 ай бұрын

My 870 had a LOT of issues running rounds when I first got it. Had to polish and hone the chamber a good bit to finally get it to run reliably.

@Sig_P229

8 ай бұрын

@@Mitsurugi2424 from my understanding, Remington was bought out and the 870 was manufactured differently after 2007. Don’t quote me on that though. My recollection is rough.

@Shademastermcc

8 ай бұрын

@@Sig_P229 It seems like gun companies are constantly changing hands, I certainly wouldn't blame you for getting one detail wrong.

@morenothing4u

8 ай бұрын

@@Sig_P229 They were during that time if I remember it was Freedom group. Just got into hunting that time and bought a 870 super mag. The chamber wasn't cut right and like Mitsurugi2424 said I had to hone and polish the chamber. On the bevel where the case head would flow into after shooting there was a ring right in the middle that would catch your finger nail. On hot days or when the gun got hot, especially the cheap hi-velocity copper washed steel case head dove shells would get stuck in the chamber. I had changed out the extractor to a machined one and not the MIM one to help with extraction. Shells would get stuck soo bad the upgraded extractor would rip the rim of the case head mortaring it on the ground. Sucks on hot 100F+ days and doves just blowing by you left and right. Didn't help that the ejector broke at the very front of the front rivet, and would sometimes cause random hang ups. Found this about 10 years later finally replaced it. It had broke the first time I took it to the range. I know this because I had always thought the ejector looked funny from a non super magnum action when took the shotgun to breakin the very first time. Just assumed because it was a longer action it looked that way, when in fact both use the same exact ejector and spring.

Thanks James, throwing out my 1301 for this superior design. Eagerly awaiting the Vang Comp version.

@marlowek1936

8 ай бұрын

Why wait!? drill go brrrr

@cpi3281

8 ай бұрын

Don't you mean the "Wang Comp" version?

@Barikade

8 ай бұрын

​@@cpi3281😭😭🤣🤣🤣👍🏽

I have two of these 320s. I have just under $100 on each one. One is a pistol grip and the other is a traditional stock Both have been good runners once broken in, My biggest problem is the shape of the butt stock. They both hurt, but the pistol gripped one isn't as bad. The best part is that I don't worry about scratches when I put them in the truck or car.

I’ve had my Stevens 320 for 2 years and put hundreds of rounds in it. As a broke college student I love it, mine has the pistol grip stock though so it’s more tacticool

Best humor of any gun tuber. Great content as well. 💪

The video where you learned the push/pull shotgun technique is game-changing. With in a week, I went to the range and tried it for myself. It took about 20 shells to get used to it but once I did I was crazy how much faster I got.

@aaron8903

8 ай бұрын

Name/ title of that video?

@ryanweiss1721

8 ай бұрын

@aaron8903 How to Shoot a Shotgun Faster (ft Symtac Consulting). It is on the TFBTV channel. I think it was posted June 2023

@ryanweiss1721

8 ай бұрын

@aaron8903 How to Shoot a Shotgun Faster (ft Symtac Consulting). It is on the TFBTV channel. I think it was posted June 2023

@aaron8903

8 ай бұрын

@@ryanweiss1721 thank you !

I picked up an ATA Arms like two years ago for around 189 bucks. 2k rounds later and still running like a champ

I've had one for a while (9-12 months). I too noticed the rough action, but I did not experience the lock ups ytenderize! And yes it is a meat tenderizer! So for the price (it's all I could afford at the time) it has served its purpose well. And I am going to keep it. I also enjoyed your review of the 940 Pro (so much so that I bought one).

I have the 20 gauge version with the long barrel. You are correct about extraction. One has to work the pump forcefully to get good extraction. My 35 year-old Mossberg 500 is a lot smoother. I have put about 200 plus rounds through mine with no trouble.

@FC-ue1yc

8 ай бұрын

Well try to polish the chamber and you'll see the difference:)

This is awesome to see because my first gun was a Stevens 320 with the pistol grip. I got it for $200 back in 2015 and it was a decent starter and I got to learn the basics of responsible ownership and whatnot. It only survived about 300 shells though and everything started to break on it. I eventually gave it to my best friend and told him that it was always falling apart lol

At 8:40 the Federal Slugs even made u go holy crap....as most of us said as well.... Just beautiful Shotgun video in general because its a shotgun and it kept firing

I’d really like to see James burn down a Stoeger P3000 or M3000. Stoeger is Turkish but they are owned by Beretta and are a fairly reputable brand.

As the owner of another knock-off of the Winchester 1200 design (Ted Williams 200 in 20ga - sears house brand in the late 60s) I can agree with some things in the video: TO fix the sticky - keep clean and lube the locking lugs of the bolt and the rails of the bolt carrier. Failure to lubricate the bolt will cause more jams (it also just needs alot of lube and cleaned often - it is not a AK, do not treat it like one or you will have problems) and failure to lubricate the carrier rails will cause wear in the receiver. TO fix the recoil - mine lives with a limb saver on it (BTW - put duct tape or similar on the inside of the limb saver or the sticky nature of the pad will ruin the finish of a wood stocked gun). But any good recoil pad will do. Ruins the svelte lines but saves your shoulder (esp with 3" magnum shells) Mine has the varichoke which I actually quite like and is effective as a screw in as far as I can tell, and with a +3 tube extension it is a nice fit. Other than that mine has been shot so much the bluing on the tube is gone where the forearm reciprocates and I would add that mine is as smooth as glass....the old ones at least earned the "speed pump" moniker. Maybe it is a combination of break-in, chinese machining, or the fact that mine has a nice squared checkered wood fore-end, but instead of doing a "push/pull" technique try pre-loading the forearm rearward (i.e. pulling it in tension toward you while firing) and the action springs open with the recoil in one VERY FAST motion. I don't even think about "opening" the action anymore - I just focus on recovery and reload and you can be very fast with a follow up shot. It does not slam fire though.

@JamesReeves

8 ай бұрын

GREAT post. THANK YOU.

@ericgrumbles447

8 ай бұрын

I ran 3 Gun Heavy Metal for years with a Winchester 1300 which is the same action, and I took the entire bolt out and polished it with Flitz then used a 12 gauge bore mop chucked into a drill to polish the barrel locking lugs. It was hot buttered tiddies after that. I shoot trap with the full size 320 now and did the same to it and it runs equally well. Back in the day at 3 Gun I used the same technique you're describing but I practiced punching the slide forward and onto the next target after each shot. So I would pull the forearm like you describe, ride the slide back under its own power, and then punch the slide onto the next target with my slide hand and press the trigger. I hade a Choate stock and mag extension on that one and it held 11 shells so I would frequently clear stages faster than guys with Benelli's because I didn't have to reload.

I figured it would survive. Up here in the frozen wastelands of Canada we used to get Chinese 870 clones called the Dominion Arms Grizzly. Those things are built like tanks, if memory serves the short barrel variant weighed about 8 pounds. I sold mine off when I got a 590, but occasionally think I should have kept it around. That being said I think they were around $300 so a fair bit more expensive than this example.

@kutter_ttl6786

8 ай бұрын

Ternion International is importing Chinese 870 clones into Canada right now, but the price is more than what you would pay for a Maverick 88. So you have to ask if they're worth it or not.

@FC-ue1yc

7 ай бұрын

Guess how much those Grizzlies are worth nowadays? $500+ used on Gunpost. Oh lord.

Purchased one of these puppies a few years ago, equipped with Tactical Stock and Ghost Ring sites. In complete agreement, it hammers the shoulder, but it functions flawlessly. Obviously the piece you tested exhibited some snags, it happens in the best of families; my 870 Turkey Express for example. Have no regrets, friends of mine purchased them as well and, no complaints. Overall, great home defense shotgun for the money.

I had similar problems with the end cap for a feeding tube Would recommend thread log in it to keep it from coming off

Thank You James Shoulder and Ryan Shoulder for showing the Stevens 320 is a shotgun that works.

This was actually my first shotgun and only at the moment. Mine has the pistol grip and it hasn't given me any problems yet. It does kick hard. I plan on getting a maverick 88 but it really surprised me i didn't think this shotgun would survive your test .

I have a Stevens break action that I bought new for $107. I did my own burn down and it made it 56 shells before failure to eject set in, requiring a punch rod after every shot.

I have the H&R partner pump I bought at wally world for $140. It is sort of a 870 clone- I was able to put a side saddle and surefire forend/light on it with no problems, but it weighs more than a 870. I fired some rounds through it and it did fine, but not as many as you did in this test. You should do a similar vid on one of those H&R riot guns.

My old style Steven’s 320 is my fav shotgun. It runs mini slugs exclusively like a champ 🤘

It saddens me that stevens, formerly savage/stevens has now farmed out to china. My grand dads 12ga i grew up on that my grandmother bought him from ward western I believe was made by savage stevens in the early 1940’s. It is still in service today with minimal maintenance and repair. It has been around long enough, and been used enough that if there were a weakness in it it would have been exposed by now. It is a well used heirloom that will be in this family for 3 generations atleast, more so if my kids continue that tradition. Throw away mentality is messing up so much these days. Just my .02

@jackbaird5235

8 ай бұрын

Bought my oldest son a savage Steven's security quite a few years back for his first shotgun and it has been flawless and he's not the nicest to it either. Sad to see they have gone the way of many companies these days

@DimensionN87

8 ай бұрын

It sucks how everything is so “throw away” now. Even things ive had for a couple years are better quality than something i could buy brand new. Gotta love capitalism

@muzzlebrake6698

8 ай бұрын

I have a savage/Stevens from back in the Vietnam Era. Didn't know these things had better barrels than modern shotguns. A cheap shotgun with a proofed barrel. Who'd imagine. Nowadays I wouldn't bother with Savage shotguns. Mossbergs mav 88's are better if you can't get a 500 or 590.

@SailfishSoundSystem

8 ай бұрын

That would be crony capitalism (you know your typical DC politician) and not Laissez-faire capitalism. @@DimensionN87

@borkwoof696

8 ай бұрын

Stevens hasn’t been Stevens in a loong time. It’s just a marketing name.

I got a Stevens 20 ga. from Wal Mart. It took me about 25 rounds to get it to shoot good. My mistake was reassembly after a complete cleaning. Once I got a tool to help reassembly , things went well.

I couldn't believe this passed the burndown. Thanks for the great vids.

One thing to note about these - Some of the early production had a critical issue with how the slide bar assembly was welded and it liked to break. This issue was an identical copy of an issue with very early Winchester pumps. When that happened to me, the support was good about it and they replaced it immediately when it broke. This issue was supposed to be resolved several years ago now though so you *probably* won't see it on anything you buy new today. They beefed up the welds and installed a stiffer slide release spring. You do have to look out for it on the second hand market though. If you're going to get one second hand, be sure to look up how to spot the difference. You can tell by the welds. You definitely don't want one that might totally break when it matters.

@davidgoodnow269

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tip!

@joshkelly4682

8 ай бұрын

Maybe that is what is wrong with my winchester 1200 20 gauge pump, but I can't find any replacement parts

@davidgoodnow269

8 ай бұрын

@@joshkelly4682 Disassemble and pull the part. Check for cracks and wear. Then measure in every dimension with a very good micrometer, and then measure anything that part has to touch or pass through. Since it a non-load or pressure-bearing component, just cut (or have a local machine shop cut) the part to maximum tolerances (the maximum size that can possibly fit any area it would touch something else), and then polish down with a very fine file and emery cloth until it has the fit you need for reliable function.

I have a Turkish pos I paid $93 for at wally world. Ever tried 500 rounds but has worked well so far.

The Stevens 320 was the first shotgun I ever purchased. My 14 year-old son went with me to shoot it for the first time. I was done after 8 rounds. He was done after 2. Good to know that we are slightly less wimpy than I thought we were that day.

THANK YOU JAMES!!! I requested this burn down a while ago. I have a Stevens 320. (Black, pistol grip stock and bead sight). I painted the stock and forearm with tan textured spray paint and cut the back 1/3 of the fore-end off. This allows the use of Velcro side saddle shell holders. I’ve run a few hundred rounds through it. The small screw/bolt that holds the ejector in the receiver was loose when brand new. I took it out, cleaned it and reinstalled it with blue loctite. I’ve had no problems with it. It is my truck, beater shotgun. I’m glad you gave it a thorough test. I guess it got one and a half thumbs-up. Thanks again for the test. You are one of my favorite gun KZreadrs.

Entertainment at it's finest! Thank you James!

I have an earlier one that I picked up in 2006 for $189. It came from China, a Hawk Model 982, stock with the peep sight, 18.25" barrel, 5+1 of 2 3/4 shells. I use it for home defense, it has sharp checkering.

Interesting comment about Turkish shotguns. I’m in aus so have an Adler a110, I’ve had over 500 consecutive rounds through it without an issue at all. Look forward to more meltdown videos, I love this stuff !!

I bought a 320 13 years ago as my first shotgun for 200 bucks. Honestly for what I used it for it worked awesome but I was never under the impression that it was supposed to compete with an 870 or something like that. It liked to have that pump run very firmly and It was not very smooth. Despite its limitations it worked very well for me and boy could I bust some clays even with the 18 inch barrel. I've also had both the plain bead sight and the ghost ring sight and the bead was way better in my opinion.

Love what you’re doing James. Excited to see what you do next.

Impressive that it was able to pass the test. Very interesting video.

Was the first shotgun I bought a few years back when I was first getting into guns….still one of my favorites …mine never had any issues either

I’ve got the field model and I’ve ran over 2000 shells through it without any issues whatsoever so seeing the jam on the first round was wild to me

@NoWr2Run

8 ай бұрын

You probably cleaned your gun first.

@exiledphantom8194

8 ай бұрын

@@NoWr2Run nope just ran it. I do clean after every range/hunting trip, but that’s because shotguns (in my experience) tend get really dirty over time and regular preventative maintenance keeps things running smooth.

@rokstr222ify

8 ай бұрын

I'm glad to hear this because I bought a 320 security a year an a half ago or so and I've only ran maybe 2 or 300 rounds thru it, but it's never given me any trouble, I was a little confused by this video, because on my barel it's clearly stamped 2&3/4 shells , so seeing him put in 3inch magnum shells made me wonder if they made a 3inch version?

My experience with one of these is flawless. Not one problem. Super smooth. Very reliable. Turkish shottys not so much

@usmcjawbreaker97

8 ай бұрын

Mines the same. Quality control does not exist, but sometimes they get lucky and make a decent one

@timothywhite8130

8 ай бұрын

​@@usmcjawbreaker97same

@ST19859

19 күн бұрын

I have no experience with chinese shotties but Ive had two turkish ones and they both ran flawlessly

I picked up the security model with pistol grip stock and open sights in 20ga. Af palmetto state for 160 about 8months ago. So far it runs smooth and shoots straight. No its not my 870 or 1100 but she does good for a play around truck gun.

I've been wanting to see the Stevens 320 burndown for a while. It's a great value shotgun, and it did really well. I already have plenty of Remingtons and Mossbergs, so I'd love to try one of these. Pretty underrated gun, and you can't go wrong at that price. Awesome work.

@Gangsta1168

7 ай бұрын

Yup.. Thanks to the cheap Chinese labor.. 😊😊

@joshklaver47

7 ай бұрын

@@Gangsta1168 Mexican labour is actually much cheaper than Chinese labour these days.

@Gangsta1168

7 ай бұрын

@@joshklaver47 really.. Is that why 🇺🇸 is importing so much cheap labor from Latin America?? 😄😄

@joshklaver47

7 ай бұрын

@@Gangsta1168 Yeah, pretty much. A lot of American cars are actually assembled in Mexico. That's what NAFTA was always about. Access to cheap labour, often at the expense of American jobs.

@Gangsta1168

7 ай бұрын

@@joshklaver47 welcome to Capitalism, where profit is the #1 priority for big fat capitalists while costs/risks are pushed down to the poor.. 💯💯

My first pump shotgun. Bought it at the hight of the panic buying in 2020. A few months later i got a well loved and used coast to coast 600. That's my primary shotgun now but i still keep the stevens as a spare for rabbit hunting

Glad my subscription helped pay. Love the sarcasm and reviews.

Bought one few years back . Used as a backup shotgun . Ran it hard, cleaned, and ran it hard again. All the hiccups worked out . Can't say anything bad of mine. So it's still on backup. I did replace the pistol grip stock. Had to replace the red light pipe that broke. All good now. Like James said, if that's what you can afford, it's a good choice. My 2 cents. YMMV.

I have the Stevens in 20 gauge with the tan plastic stock and fore end. Works just fine, slings slugs as good as my Marlin 44 mag. lever gun.

Are you transitioning away from tfb?

@JamesReeves

8 ай бұрын

Great question. Yes, I have already fully transitioned from being born a biolog.....wait I misread that. No, I'm just making too much content for one channel, and I want to focus my channel on new topics that I am personally passionate about like gun law, shotgun burndowns, and be able to branch out into travel, photography, and possibly fitness.

@koomo801

8 ай бұрын

@@JamesReeves I wish you luck in your quest to convince more of us to look and dress like Rhodesians

@nathanbowersox1234

8 ай бұрын

@@JamesReevesyes to all of the above, fitness would be awesome actually

@elitedavidhorne8494

8 ай бұрын

​@@JamesReevesooh fitness. Are you going to start working out?

@maxcactus7

8 ай бұрын

​@@elitedavidhorne8494ROFL! Nice burn.

I had an old Norinco 870 clone that was imported as a "pardner pump." Once I installed a volquartsen extractor that thing became fucking unstoppable and I easily ran over 800 rounds through it before I ended up having to sell. I honestly regret selling that thing.

I had a Stevens 320 or something like that and it was amazing for me. Never jammed, shot amazing and never failed me. I guess it's one of those it can be good it can be bad

I got one of those Stevens many years ago. It definitely kicks. And I agree with the foregrip being terrible. I just wanted a shotgun for my collection and had little money at the time.

James, I did some research on the manufacturer of this shotgun...and found something interesting. The Stevens shotguns (320 and 301 series) are made by Sun City Machinery Co Ltd (山东日照兄弟机械公司) in China. According to the registration info this company primarily produces sporting goods such as treadmills, barbells and bicycles; making firearms for American importers is merely its "side job". It kinda explains the flaws during the torture test...if the workers over there only make guns on a part-time basis while spending most of the time making bicycles. By the way I'm pretty happy with mine...was torn between Mav 88 and this sucker & ended up with the latter one thanks to its shorter LOP. 500 rounds of down the barrel & no hiccups so far!

@JamesReeves

8 ай бұрын

Excellent post. Thanks for this.

@CantoniaCustoms

8 ай бұрын

On that topic the JTS X12 is made by sub-beam precision which is an airgun factory in China. What makes that strange in particular is the other offerings by JTS are made by the chongqing mikitary factory.

It would have been nice to revisit the Bioammo after the 500 round burn down to see if it ran any better.

@clothar23

8 ай бұрын

Doubt it. The problem is likely caused by the bio plastic being softer than normal plastic. Which combined with the looser tolerances of the gun caused the shells to over expand and thus stick. In fact the problem would likely be worse after the break in period. As the tolerances get even looser.

@johnelder4273

5 ай бұрын

Who would buy "Bio Ammo"? Seems like you are just asking for problems.

My first shotgun was a stevens 320 with a 28 in barrel. Put about 100 rounds through it with no issue. But sold it because the coating was starting to rust in about a year and thats with maintenance.

I've had similar issues with Bioammo in my 1956 870 Wing Master. Everything else I've shot feeds perfectly. The Bioammo seems to be a touch bigger than it should be and jams up a little bit

I have a hawk 982. Never jammed once, but the stock eventually wobbled loose. Used an 870 stock set and no issues since then.

@Chaz31358

8 ай бұрын

I picked up a 982 for $150 eight years ago and it's a beast, never had a problem with it. Great slug gun too inside of 100 yards.

@oni_goroshi

8 ай бұрын

I have one too. I put on a hogue stock set and made the front sight post fiber optic. I actually prefer it over the Remington 870s I have, and so does everyone who's shot it.

Lmao...that pile of shells on the ground. Holy shit. Bet the clean up was almost as brutal as the recoil from that thing. I'm genuinely surprised it survived the burn down.

Fabulous waist satchel. (Great vid, too.)

Just came across your channel and already love the content!

Like many, I got this as my first shotty on the cheap during the pandemic. $250 for the security version with the FDE and heatguard that does, something, I guess. It's never skipped a beat. A couple hundred rounds of Federal target rounds from Wally World and a few dozen of 2 3/4 and 3 inch slugs later, hey man, the thing is cheap, it'll remind you that you can take a little recoil for the 'tactical weight,' when you're swininging it around for targets. It eats rounds like a hungry horny hippo without ever stuttering. No complaints; I'll ride or die.

@NoWr2Run

8 ай бұрын

NICE.

@danielmacdonald8358

8 ай бұрын

Well said

@richtenamore1364

8 ай бұрын

Hell I bought two of em one in 20 and one in 12…I mean wtf for the price as long as they work for what I need they owe me nothing

@NoWr2Run

8 ай бұрын

@@richtenamore1364 I AGREE, GOOD FOR THE GIRLS WE GO WITH, LOL.

Bio-ammo... Just the name tells you it is going to suck. I love these videos. I like to see which ammo works and what ammo does not work.

YESSSS! I asked for this damn burndown after the Mav88 video. Just like my father, James only missed Christmas twice before giving a gift.

I bought the same Fanny as you at your recommendation- couldn’t be happier w it 👍

My first shotgun 😂 Paid way more during covid for it. Not a good shotgun as you said but surprisingly durable enough. Also, yeah, the recoil is absurdity more than most others due to the light weight and hollow stock and the hard as F butt pad. I'll stick with my 1897 winchester now but the 320 isn't the worst choice

I love these videos. Interesting, I think a lot of the Stevens designs are made off old US designs, and some are OK even being made in china. But they are CHEAP in every sense of the word... I had a Savage/stevens 301 .410 break action, and it felt like a toy, but ran great.

@guaporeturns9472

8 ай бұрын

Might not hold up after 70 years though. I won’t be around to see I suppose

@crankygunreviews

8 ай бұрын

@@guaporeturns9472 very true

@hunterkiller232134

8 ай бұрын

​@@guaporeturns9472for $120 if it only lasts 5 years that's still a win.

Excellent video demonstration

Upgrade on the recoil pad for those hard kickers is a must. I would also lube critical areas.

I bought the pistol grip 12 and 20 gauge version of this gun for 300 total. They came with ghost ring sights and a picatinny rail. I threw some grip tape on the forend, which made a huge difference. They're not great guns by any means, but the run. I've got a 590, 500 20 gauge and 1301 tac for myself, these are inexpensive loners for family and friends.

@mrmicro22

8 ай бұрын

Don't be a loner.

Just buy a maverick 88. That being said, I have shot this gun, it's a decent shotgun. Definitely agree with James about how the sticky action is

Outstanding. Love these.

I have the 320 in 20 Gauge with the 22" Barrel I bought a few years ago at Wally World, I think I paid $129 + tax for it. Runs fine. I have the Modified, Full and Turkey chokes for it.

I have one of these in my non weather controlled barn for coyote and wildlife control. No rust. No problems. 10/10 would buy again

I see you've mastered Polenar Tactical's art of the flying shotgun.

Bought the security version of this on my 18th birthday 8 years ago and that thing, for all its faults, was always reliable and a good time for those of us on a budget. Also felt like there was a break in period with it, it only seemed to get better over time. I'll still take a mav 88 over it.

I have one of these with a 28" barrel. Works great as the loaner shotgun to give to a friend at the trap range