VICE's Gianna Toboni traveled to DeVos' home state of Michigan to see school choice in action and understand what the future of public education might look like. WATCH NEXT: Last Chance High: Expelled From Every Other School - kzread.info/dash/bejne/oGF2wc2mccjIkrQ.html

@NoriaMarieBeauTeyMafia

4 жыл бұрын

@ViceNews My daughter starts Monday. Even though I am the parent liaison at her school, I did not feel that she should continue middle school at that location due to being bullied. Well she actually can defend herself, she chooses to not fight and get a education. But certain individials was jealous of her because of me. I know it sounds crazy but its not. Having a parent more engaged in school makes a difference in childrens lives. Where their are some children who envy the fact that their parent is not engaged in their schooling or lives. I didnt want my child to get distracted with the drama occurring. There is 4 months left in the year and next year she can continue to high school starting at a new school but joining her brother who is a high school sophomore and autistic. Unitl then I will engage and impliment new changes and tackle the concerns within our schools. That is why i am on the school district board, and also a community liaison which started a new committee board who is creating a strategic plan to present and apply for funding from our city, county, and state. The governor just created a community engagement, education, housing bill to offer grants in North California.

@ropro9817

4 жыл бұрын

I don't get it... what's wrong with charter schools? They seem to provide better programs and it's the shitty public schools that close down. How is this a bad thing?

@itsmyyoutube

4 жыл бұрын

This is so misleading. If you look at the population and taxable businesses in the area of Detroit in the same timeline you'll see that it was cut in half or more. When your population is gone and your businesses are gone you have no tax money to put into the school system or people to go to the schools. Also let's overlook the families that change their addresses (without actually moving) so that their kids can go to other suburban school districts in the metro Detroit area so that they get a better safer environment. But sure let's put an extreme left slant on this with zero objectivity. Quit calling yourself news.

@Soul_Alpha

4 жыл бұрын

Tell Gianna I said her hairstyle is rad

@danielakalamudo4360

4 жыл бұрын

Why aren’t they completely private schools in America, run by individuals

Parents are "choosing" charter schools because most public schools in their area are shut down.

@jrkarmagetubih

4 жыл бұрын

Little money and no effort put to large population Public School and giving it to Charter small lottery schools. America is Doom.

@DirtiestPotato

4 жыл бұрын

Wrong

@BothHands1

4 жыл бұрын

"choice" sounds really nice on the plutocrat propaganda news network though. (fox, of course)

@Dakidpepe

4 жыл бұрын

Everything "public" is shutting down in my City pools & parks are closing. The only 2 people trump cares about funding is the military & the people around him.

@Beavereaver

4 жыл бұрын

Which political party runs Detroit?

"No one's forcing their child to go to public schools" Sort of hard to have choices when you keep shutting down public schools

@orlandomc987

4 жыл бұрын

Megan Dunklin Public schools aren’t getting shutdown as much as charters

@theQuestion626

4 жыл бұрын

@@orlandomc987 perhaps charters are getting shut down because they have abysmal results in actually educating children…? www.forbes.com/sites/petergreene/2019/07/03/why-charter-schools-must-waste-money/ You see when you come out of ties education you will see that education largely loses its meaning. It ends up being about making a buck. Not much else. And that should concern you quite frankly.

@wakichunu

4 жыл бұрын

Are Charter Schools Private? No. Charter schools are public schools that operate independently from school districts. The myth that charter schools are a form of "privatization" is a good example of the reiteration effect, a cognitive bias to accept ideas as true if frequently repeated (by mainstream media, and by all the top comments on this video). The main reason we need more charter schools is because school districts have so many restrictions. They can't fire teachers that dont do their job, they cant reward teachers for doing a better job. We cant get rid of the public schools, we cant change the public schools for the better. So charter schools need to replace them. Charter schools can implement all the ideas and strategies that have formed over the last 30 years in the name of school reform.

@theQuestion626

4 жыл бұрын

@@wakichunu it doesn’t change the reality that many of them fail. We don’t need more charter schools they have such a flimsy track record. And I would like to point out a rather odd irony here? You believing that in public schools a teacher can’t be fired if they are substandard in anyway? That kind of shows a cognitive bias don’t you think? I worked in public schools and if you were not good at your job you did not last very long. The problem is not that public schools have these imaginary restrictions that you think they have the problem as the funding continues to be cut and administrator salaries increase while teachers salaries stagnate. Not to mention the obsession with standardized testing is so out of proportion it buggers belief. “ we can’t change public schools for the better…” Actually yes you can. The schools that I worked with had some budget problems and staffing problems but within a few years they fix them. When did Americans become such quitters…? I swear anytime something goes wrong they feel the need to scrap it and replace it with something worse.

@ainsbass

4 жыл бұрын

I was really disappointed that the interviewer didn't reply with this..

Those girls telling the reporter about what they want to be after highschool was very sweet. I wish them nothing but the best.

@o.602

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. I hope they achieve their dreams

@anthonyrobles6806

2 жыл бұрын

yeah fr

@inthedarkwoods2022

Жыл бұрын

That girl saying she was going to be a WNBA player... Foolish

You can’t have people who never experienced poverty or struggle to make decisions for the poor and people with less money. Makes no sense. It’s just not gonna work.

@katiebaldwin5401

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this should go for anyone who wants to get into politics but, the DeVos's have not gone to public school, yet they have a huge influence on our public education. We need more of the working class in government.

@inigoro5177

3 жыл бұрын

I disagree. There are people who want the others to have a better life even though they never experienced struggle. On the other hand, you get a bunch of businessmen who belonged to the working class not so long ago and now they are the worst greedy exploiters and public funding education/healthcare dismantlers of all. In my region we say "working for a working class person is the worst of all" saying that the one who used to be poor will treat you even worse than the one who was already born rich.

@katiebaldwin5401

3 жыл бұрын

@@inigoro5177 I see your point and agree but at the same time, that does not change my opinion on the DeVoss'. They act as if they understand the public school system yet they do not care, and have not experienced being in a public school, or having children in the system.

@inigoro5177

3 жыл бұрын

@@katiebaldwin5401 I agree with you as well.

@KamoreeLove

3 жыл бұрын

@@katiebaldwin5401 you will be surprised on how many people who attended public schools or grew up in those communities and still end up fucking them over by stealing money

This reporter, Gianna Toboni, is one of the most stone faced interviewers. Her glare slices through their lies.

@henryortizjr1533

4 жыл бұрын

she is sooo unintrested in this topic, I can tell her mind is wandering while she interviews these people !

@pixiechick92

4 жыл бұрын

@@henryortizjr1533 are you blind or just completely inept at deducting facial cues and female body language? Are you single too?

@Kevin-gh4ze

4 жыл бұрын

That was the first thing that I saw about her 😂

@Kevin-gh4ze

4 жыл бұрын

@@pixiechick92 you can notice it in her voice...

@confisz690

4 жыл бұрын

@Henry Ortiz Double Standards. She’s real and ain’t afraid to focus on asking the questions rather than looking “cute” to please your fantasies.

This is literally preventing kids from moving up from their socioeconomic class. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer.

@ubercoolnamehere

4 жыл бұрын

Not at all, it's the failure of the entire system not charter schools. Look up the total % of charter schools then come back and complain.

@jakerad9553

4 жыл бұрын

iVince905 poor can get rich too is just about the person

@starchysgraveyardshift

4 жыл бұрын

I Crash Not really. If you believe in some juvenile version of liberal free will then sure. Anybody can do anything if they just believe! But that’s not how to world works. Economic mobility has always been really low, and on top of that its been declining since the 1980s. Most people end up in the same socioeconomic status they were born into. The poor get a shit education and live in shit neighborhoods. When you get a shit education and your family has no money, you won’t be able to go to college and start a career. So you try to work some dead end jobs but sometimes that doesn’t work and thats why poverty is linked so closely to crime. The top 1% are so rich because of nepotism and because of the wealth and resources they were born into. If you were born into an upper middle class neighborhood you had the education to qualify for scholarships and on top of that you parents could pay partially. When you’re born into an upper class family you have inheritance to buy certain corporations and profit off of what workers produce. That’s why the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor. The “american dream” doesn’t exist.

@educationlockdown9304

4 жыл бұрын

the poor get the most stolen from their schools, I have true stories about that on my page

@killermon117

4 жыл бұрын

Of course trumps likes this

"nobody's forcing parents to choose charter schools" literally moments earlier: "they keep telling me I have a choice but they close my neighborhood school and open 2 charters so where's the choice?" - a parent

@gdiaz8827

3 жыл бұрын

They can move to different area where their children can get a crappy public education rich in s ocial justice and barren of real world skills

@cheapPixel

3 жыл бұрын

@@gdiaz8827 Wow, why didn't I think of that! Just move somewhere else! 🙄

@kinged5741

3 жыл бұрын

@@gdiaz8827 thats Chicago lol a lot of people in especially those parts of chicago are living in poverty smartass lol

@gdiaz8827

3 жыл бұрын

@@kinged5741 keep letting democrats and unions control the schools and that cycle of poverty will never end

@theinternetsavedmylife

3 жыл бұрын

That woman is a terrible parent who doesn't understand what Charter schools are and what the word "CHOICE" means. You cannot choose a Monopoly -- it's already been done for you and Charter Schools aren't Private Schools; they're publicly owed but privately operated! I doubt she was interested in her daughters' education before Charter schools popped up else why would she send her children to a failing school where they are bound to come out at the bottom of the academic rung. My guess is She sees this as some sort of Class/Race Battle of Supremacy and want to stick it to the MAN. How were her kids better off in a Failing School? Did she inquire or investigate why the school was failing

Devos’s smug smile really makes me realize that these top 1% people couldn’t care less

@zavdab5238

3 жыл бұрын

Devo's look like the people that would actually lobby for a real life purge.

@charlesugochukwu9283

3 жыл бұрын

Charter schools are better. That’s the reason why parents choose them. Davos never forced any parent to send their children to charter schools. Public schools are a monopoly, and monopolies are inefficient.

@RealMcLovin

3 жыл бұрын

If public schools were so great why does America do so poorly in educational. And if they were so great they wouldn't be worried about completion from charter schools. If they were so great they none would be shutting down because parent's know their children would do better being elsewhere.

@HEARTNHUSTLESTUDIOS

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the world

@gdiaz8827

3 жыл бұрын

He pointed out that parents are getting a better deal for there kids over the crappy public schools the would other wise be forced to send th their kids to

So charter schools in low income neighborhoods are just as crappy as the lower income public schools. Roger, check.

@markg.7865

4 жыл бұрын

In most cases they are worse, a lot of them don't have the facilities public schools have like gyms or even playgrounds.

@MyNameIsNotDamien

4 жыл бұрын

So you don't think there's anything we (the richest nation ever created) can do to address the fundamentally unfair situation where innocent children are brought up into a self-feeding environment of poverty, crime, and lack of public support relative to "high-income" areas?

@acceleration4443

4 жыл бұрын

Its the McDonald’s type of school

@markg.7865

4 жыл бұрын

@@MyNameIsNotDamien There is plenty that could be done, unless the people who have the wealth want a certain portion of the population to remain poor.

@AvWoN

4 жыл бұрын

Except they are now worse

"I appreciate that point of view" is just another way of saying "I don't really care."

@DrillEntertainmentNetwork

4 жыл бұрын

exactly

@travislaughlin157

4 жыл бұрын

Agreeing with Bj here. Free market will get things into gear. Both sides are lobbying Congress. Public schools have the teachers union lobbying. That hasn’t gotten us anywhere good so far.

@wakichunu

4 жыл бұрын

Are Charter Schools Private? No. Charter schools are public schools that operate independently from school districts. The myth that charter schools are a form of "privatization" is a good example of the reiteration effect, a cognitive bias to accept ideas as true if frequently repeated (by mainstream media, and by all the top comments on this video). The main reason we need more charter schools is because school districts have so many restrictions. They can't fire teachers that dont do their job, they cant reward teachers for doing a better job. We cant get rid of the public schools, we cant change the public schools for the better. So charter schools need to replace them. Charter schools can implement all the ideas and strategies that have formed over the last 30 years in the name of school reform.

@mikew2610

3 жыл бұрын

@@wakichunu Chapter schools are private schools that receive government funding.

@Umass200532

3 жыл бұрын

🎯

“Your school has bad grades on tests, its being shut down” Kids go to another school and make that school have lower test grade “Your school gets bad grades on tests, it’s being shut down”

@notan_alien881

3 жыл бұрын

@@stop_cutting_baby_penis well what if the school is failing due to not enough funding

@notan_alien881

3 жыл бұрын

@@stop_cutting_baby_penis hmmm never thought of it like that

@westonrumba1344

3 жыл бұрын

@@stop_cutting_baby_penis It's not a god damn business

@breynoso19

3 жыл бұрын

@@somerandomperson6936 Studies have shown otherwise.

@sebastienholmes548

2 жыл бұрын

@@notan_alien881 then why do charter schools do better with only a fraction of the budget?

This video made me realize how much of a privilege that education is. I've grown up as a kid who never had to worry about anything. My city was safe and functional. Seeing how other cities function makes me sad, and really taught me to be grateful of even the most simple every day things I have in my life.

@ericb9931

Жыл бұрын

It's not privilege, people built that city, it wasn't developed by wishes and unicorns, you just made your grandparents throw up a little you ingrate.

@ericb9931

Жыл бұрын

Other people being trash isn't your fault

@ericb9931

Жыл бұрын

Victim mentality, maybe they just suck

I really gotta say, this is one of the best reporters I've ever seen. Not becoming emotional when interviewing people you might personally detest is so impressive. We need more journalism like this.

@JCosio-bs9xr

3 жыл бұрын

I noticed that she much like the pilots is white. Is her race relevant as the students'? Is racializing a good characteristic for a professional that is supposed to be without bias?

@tomlaureys1734

3 жыл бұрын

I don't know if the interviewer gets what the point of charter schools is. It's not about the schools winning. It's about the parents and students winning. If public schools are closing that's an indicator that they're not as good as the charter schools that they're competing with so the parents chose the charter school. That's how business works in the free market all the time. If one company does a worse job of serving their customers than another company then they go out of business and the better company survives. If the charter schools go out of business that's a good thing. That indicates that they were the worst company at serving their customers. If the public schools go out of business that's a good thing. That indicates that they were the worst company at serving their customers. The customer gets to decide which company is good and where they will spend their money. In the case of schools the parents are the customers. I don't know what the charter school situation is in Michigan but in New Jersey many charter schools have very long waiting lists so a lot of parents are demanding charter schools because they're not happy with their Public schools. To the people who think that politicians are taking money away from public schools to give it to charter schools you need to realize that bureaucrats cannot move the funding away from the public schools to the charter schools. That's not how charter schools work. The money follows the children. Each property pays taxes and if the child living in that property goes to a public school then the public school gets the tax money. If that child goes to a charter school then the charter School gets the tax money. The parents that live at that address vote where their tax money goes by choosing the school their child will go to. It is the most democratic system possible. It eliminates the public school monopolies and forces them to compete in the marketplace with every other business. Just like in the business world where you vote with your dollars for the store that you prefer to shop in, you now get to vote for the school you want your children to go to. So it is the parents who are taking their funding away from the public schools and giving it to the charter schools.

@Kevin-lw2gl

3 жыл бұрын

She's a terrible moderator. Although I appreciate her work as a journalist, she really got on my nerves when she did the Hispanic liberals vs Hispanic conservatives debate. You can clearly see where her bias stands.

@djtdjt8921

3 жыл бұрын

Alisa Wang All European countries, rich & poor, have free school choice.. and ALL European countries, rich & poor, outperforms US on education!

@ebonylove24

3 жыл бұрын

@@djtdjt8921 What does that have to do with anything the comments are saying 💀

We have more funding for prison than schools 🤔

@nikkisunshine7430

4 жыл бұрын

What the-!

@Ace-uc5cj

3 жыл бұрын

Than you want private prisons to be built and we tax them?

@Ace-uc5cj

3 жыл бұрын

@@SquadDirector I'm not in prison, I'm asking how can prisons be built than, also its not a money issue when it comes to schooling, its the way they control the money and government control.

@yorak6793

3 жыл бұрын

Director of the Notification Squad That tends to be true, although there are cases of well performing districts that have awful funding and vise versa. What also plays a role is the rich parents having the time and money to regulate the school through Boards of Education and such, rather than pure funding. Also, the level of corruption in well funded, poor performing schools is quite high. But, in general, you are correct.

@daegueric

3 жыл бұрын

There is ZERO correlation between per pupil spending and outcomes. Don't believe it? Watch this: kzread.info/dash/bejne/k5V6o7eelte6e9Y.html

the guy at the end looks, sounds, and acts like a villain

@keishaloves1762

Ай бұрын

Facts! You seen that wicked smile too? It's straight out a comic book.

I went to a charter school for one year, and the only thing about it that I liked more than public school was the more personalized learning. Smaller class sizes meant for more 1 on 1 with teachers, and more electives. But with more funding, public schools could have all that too. Public schools being public was never, ever the problem. The only problem has always been a lack of adequate funding

@djplexiglass

3 жыл бұрын

Charter schools are less funded than traditional public schools. It is not the funding that's the problem in public schools, but the efficiency of how they're run.

@MrDanielfff777

3 жыл бұрын

@@djplexiglass yup

@breynoso19

3 жыл бұрын

@@djplexiglass But they can receive private grants and donations! Public schools (at least in my state) can only receive donations in the form of supplies and school trips. I do agree with the efficiency issues in public ed though. That is the main issue. Too much money goes to fancy supervisory titles and "specialists". Not the teachers and students.

@djplexiglass

3 жыл бұрын

@@breynoso19 I think you're right that efficiency is the main issue. Have a great day!

@thatsokjose

3 жыл бұрын

@@djplexiglass You can't expect a school to run efficiently without adequate funding though. And you have no evidence to support your argument that it's about the way a school is run vs. lack of funding. Try again.

Not a single black child at the “best” charter school

@mr.fantastic4403

4 жыл бұрын

David Baker lol I went to one of the best public schools in California and there was only one black kid in a class of 400. Public schools don’t do any better

@kakashisensei9258

4 жыл бұрын

There's one at 9:22 and 9:24

@X.L.B1

4 жыл бұрын

kakashisensei9258 Yay, two seconds-_-

@mr.fantastic4403

4 жыл бұрын

@Goal Digger Approximately 5-10% of where i live is composed of African Americans

@cool_scorpio2588

4 жыл бұрын

There is a phenomenon of white children always going to the best schools.

The interview at the end was so hostile it hurts to watch, that guy was so deep into his lies he almost caught himself out on it.

@zack4652

3 жыл бұрын

You not the only one. I needed to pause It several times. The reporter has a perfect stone cold expression.

@stopbeinginsecure4786

3 жыл бұрын

Follow the money trail, it leads to him. Corporate greed will be the downfall of this country

@alfonzom6

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/eXqfsbCNpbSwh84.html in places where there are actual choices, the charters do better, but that's mostly due to them having parents and children that actually care which are normally the ones that do better, the video does a better picture about the bitter truth

@jaredjones1752

2 жыл бұрын

I felt the same way. She was very hostile toward him from the beginning. The last 'question' she asked him at 11:48 started with her saying: "I think that..." What kind of journalist starts an interview question with their own opinion and asks the person they're interviewing to refute it? I mean, is this an interview of her or an interview of him?

@lulubelle196

7 ай бұрын

@@jaredjones1752 Yeah, it felt more like a debate than an interview; this is honestly a great example of biased reporting; where's the other side of the argument?

I went to a charter school for 5 years in Cali and loved it. I could just focus on school and work more hours at the same time because my family was poor. I was given a lot of resources and one on one teaching. Even gave me an iPad for the year. Mostly minorities like myself went there, and 95% of us went to some form of higher education.

This reporter is the best I've seen, also ripped him to shreds towards the end, loved it!

@lulubelle196

7 ай бұрын

a reporter isn't supposed to be biased

It's impressive how you managed to interview a weasel

@broooks

4 жыл бұрын

she had him shaking eh haha

@xxXitakegabbiesXxx

4 жыл бұрын

He was so uncomfortable and yes surprised he even sat down.

@tushabomwetushabomwe2160

4 жыл бұрын

Right !

@DarthBagel

4 жыл бұрын

I kinda wanted him to do a R Kelly “I’m fighting for school choice I spent $7 million dollars in lobbying for this shit”

@nudetaynehatwobble

4 жыл бұрын

Haha I was waiting to see who this comment was about. Pretty sure I cleared that up

How can it be a parents `choice’ to send their kids to a charter school. When the only Public school they have closed down 💁‍♂️.

@nikkisunshine7430

4 жыл бұрын

Some people live in areas where public schools close down often and others don’t. Charter schools exist all over the nation which means that some charter schools are located in areas where public schools do not close down as often. In that case, parents can choose to send their kid to a charter school instead of a neighborhood public school that has been around for decades.

@saltymonke3682

4 жыл бұрын

because their public school is so bad

@eurekahope5310

3 жыл бұрын

In my largely white, middle class area a local public school shut down due to declining enrollment (aging population). Some students would have to drive more than 10 miles to the closest public school. A few years later a charter was able to rent the old school to provide another option for families in the area. Now children could walk to school again. Sometimes charters fill the void of schools that could not remain open due to population decline. In this situation, the charter provided a welcome choice.

@tomlaureys1734

3 жыл бұрын

I don't know if the interviewer gets what the point of charter schools is. It's not about the school's winning. It's about the parents and students winning. If public schools are closing that's an indicator that they're not as good as the charter schools that they're competing with so the parents chose the charter school. That's how business works in the free market all the time. If one company does a worse job of serving their customers than another company then they go out of business and the better company survives. If the charter schools go out of business that's a good thing. That indicates that they were the worst company at serving their customers. If the public schools go out of business that's a good thing. That indicates that they were the worst company at serving their customers. The customer gets to decide which company is good and where they will spend their money. In the case of schools the parents are the customers. I don't know what the charter school situation is in Michigan but in New Jersey many charter schools have very long waiting lists so a lot of parents are demanding charter schools because they're not happy with their Public schools. To the people who think that politicians are taking money away from public schools to give it to charter schools you need to realize that bureaucrats cannot move the funding away from the public schools to the charter schools. That's not how charter schools work. The money follows the children. Each property pays taxes and if the child living in that property goes to a public school then the public school gets the tax money. If that child goes to a charter school then the charter School gets the tax money. The parents that live at that address vote where their tax money goes by choosing the school their child will go to. It is the most democratic system possible. It eliminates the public school monopolies and forces them to compete in the marketplace with every other business. Just like in the business world where you vote with your dollars for the store that you prefer to shop in, you now get to vote for the school you want your children to go to. So it is the parents who are taking their funding away from the public schools and giving it to the charter schools. Charter schools ARE public schools and they must take anybody who's in the district who applies to go to the charter school. If they have less spots available than applicants then they must hold a lottery to randomly select which students will get in. Unfortunately for the parents there are so many people who want to get into our charter schools in New Jersey that they almost always have a waiting list. But they never pick and choose which students on the list to get in. It must be a lottery. The charter schools wouldn't even need to have a lottery for the waiting list applicants if the state boards of education would increase the number of students that they are permitted to have. But typically and unfortunately for the students the State bureaucrats always like to power play with our children's lives.

@AnnamationsStudios

3 жыл бұрын

I agree it’s not a choice, it is a right for parents to choose what’s best for their child. But I also think everyone is forgetting that they are a PUBLICLY FUNDED private school. There’s no privilege🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Don’t forget that this country doesn’t invest money in education

@selfishcapitalist3523

3 жыл бұрын

America spends quite a lot on education actually.

@fakenewz4434

3 жыл бұрын

@@selfishcapitalist3523 They don’t invest in the quality of education itself, but the image of the education system. Who cares about big facilities and state-of-the-art computers? If students aren’t taught properly, then what’s the point? This is coming from a country with the highest education expenditure. The government can’t just throw money at the problem and allow monopolies to take over.

@greenleafyman1028

3 жыл бұрын

@@selfishcapitalist3523 Yes, they invest a lot of money for the education purpose but it all went to some few people's pocket and not actually goes to school.

the lobbyist she interviewed in the end has to be one of the slimiest “technically not lying” interviewees i have seen in a while

Parents are choosing charters because they are being marketed as a "better" school than the public ones. But as we now know, there is no real difference between the education at a charter than at a public school. I would say the only difference is if the charter specializes in something, like the aviation school. In my area, it was found out that local public schools were dropping their worst performing students to keep their averages up. And those students went to a "charter school" where they basically learned nothing, had minimal if any supervision, and then "graduated" without the skills necessary to get even the most basic jobs.

@ellep.6204

4 жыл бұрын

Exact same thing in my district. Sad.

@crystalvouse7015

4 жыл бұрын

The education is different they get educated .. In new york state exams charter schools score higher and have more to offer .. More trips .. Trips to colleges and safe environment.. Charter schools dont tolerate the bull shit p.s. does .. Im a para for the dept of ed and my son goes to uncommon charter school.. He himself has high grades and 2nd year on the honor roll .. And I know where we live that wouldnt have been possible in a p.s. in our area .. Theres no discipline .. Kids can talk when they want administration does nothing about behavior teachers cant teach in public schools.. I say to each is own for me I went to private school had a decent education and I cant afford $400 a month so I send him to charter ..The main thing is that kids get a quality education . Public school is good for some ppl not all ..

@JK-gu3tl

4 жыл бұрын

Education is what you put in. If you have lazy kids (and parents) who don't put in the effort to learn then you'll have the same results.

@emuriddle9364

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. It all depends on how the Effort is coordinated. In fact, the big reason a lot of Businesses fail, is because they don't have a proper Business Plan.

@emuriddle9364

4 жыл бұрын

@@crystalvouse7015 I went to a small-town, public school in Missouri. I know exactly what you mean. One teacher usually had to balance both the Curriculum, and disruptive students. The principal felt stressed sometimes too. And trust me. A lot of us Normal Students, hated the disruptive ones. In fact, "disruptive" was an understatement. Luckily, it wasn't as severe as other schools. Ours was probably 1 out of 3 classrooms. And the disruptive ones were probably 10% of the Student population, or so.

Reporter: “I notice all the pilots are white. Why is that?” Administration:😳🤯

@Atheist-Free-Republic

4 жыл бұрын

lmao

@TheWiseDrunkard

4 жыл бұрын

A great question from a great journalist.

@adamkhan7320

4 жыл бұрын

They didn’t expect that comment of “why are all the pilots white? “

@jackbarbey

4 жыл бұрын

Literally the student who flew them around was Asian

@ProsperOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

Jack Barbey people get so quick to jump at shit they don’t remember everything they just heard and watched 😂

This DeVos guy sounded just a like a politician who deflecting any tough questions by speaking in half-truths. He's not lying by giving out false information, but rather, deceiving by omitting certain parts of the truth. DeVos: "Charters schools are a better alternative to traditional schools....." Full Truth: "Charters schools are a better alternative to traditional schools.....[that we defunded in order to fund our charters schools]." DeVos: "Parents are choosing charter schools because they think they're better" Full Truth: "[Rich] Parents are choosing charter schools because they think they're better....while [Middle-Lower] class parents who are losing their public schools will have to no choice but our charter schools" DeVos: "Children are getting a better education thanks to new choices, options, and possibilities" Full Truth: "Children [that are admitted] are getting a better education thanks to new choices, options, and possibilities...[at the cost of the thousands of leftover children who can't afford or weren't admitted and will be left with no choices, options, and possibilities]" Nothing he said was a lie, but nothing he said was the full-truth either.

@JW-uy2on

3 жыл бұрын

Where do you think politicians get their talking points from?

@greenleafyman1028

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@lakersfansince1991

2 жыл бұрын

You’re insane if you want to keep supporting public schools. Poor and middle class parents are looking to homeschool their kids, that’s how bad these schools have gotten.

@mvillegasv8

5 ай бұрын

​@lakersfansince1991 The very idea and institution of public schools is NOT bad in and of itself. The way POLITICS and idiots who drive them DO, consequently, MAKE THEM BAD! It's always the way HOW it's run that can make ALL the difference whether how good or bad it is, in this case, public schools. I went to a very wealthy public school with a very good education I'm thankful for. But, conversely, homeschooling can be bad too if not done properly, as well! ☝🏻 WHO and HOW people run it, is what makes it a good or bad difference.

@mvillegasv8

5 ай бұрын

​@@lakersfansince1991I actually want to homeschool my kids one day for sure, THEN, consider sending them out to the world (e.g., in a public school, trade school, whatever school) to make sure they are well-over prepared for anything that comes their way. ☝🏻

“The nature of competition, though, is not everyone wins.” That resonated me to the core.

@CJ-re7bx

3 жыл бұрын

It's true, but maybe the alternative is that everyone loses?

@jyothi1723

3 жыл бұрын

C J no, because we have the money to fund our education

@CJ-re7bx

3 жыл бұрын

@@jyothi1723 do you really think that it is only money that determines whether an education system is effective or not?

@greentarsier333

3 жыл бұрын

@@jyothi1723 You can throw all the money you want into a school. But it takes a forward-thinking teachers that understands what is essential, effective lessons, and meaningful interaction to the students that creates a better education system.

@jyothi1723

3 жыл бұрын

Jordan Francisco Of course, it’s just that generally teachers are very underpaid for their work and studies show paying workers more inherently produces better quality of work. The same applies to education.

"This public school shut down. Therefore it must have been a bad school." "This man was executed. Therefore he must be guilty."

@DrillEntertainmentNetwork

4 жыл бұрын

👏🏼👏🏼

@saltymonke3682

4 жыл бұрын

if a PS can't retain student, they won't get funding. Because that's a Student based funding is for. Do you think where do the PSs get their money? Property and local taxes. who paid? Parents. So their parents are free to send their kids anywhere in a school choice system. Money isn't the problem. Baltimore has the 3rd highest spending per pupil in the nation on their PS system. But all students in 13 out of 39 of their PS HS had failed to perform in proficient level Mathematics. Only 15% passed English.

@tomlaureys1734

3 жыл бұрын

There is a lot of misinformation about charter schools and this video doesn't help. I don't know if the interviewer gets what the point of charter schools is. It's not about the school's winning. It's about the parents and students winning. If public schools are closing that's an indicator that they're not as good as the charter schools that they're competing with so the parents chose the charter school. That's how business works in the free market all the time. If one company does a worse job of serving their customers than another company then they go out of business and the better company survives. If the charter schools go out of business that's a good thing. That indicates that they were the worst company at serving their customers. If the public schools go out of business that's a good thing. That indicates that they were the worst company at serving their customers. The customer gets to decide which company is good and where they will spend their money. In the case of schools the parents are the customers. I don't know what the charter school situation is in Michigan but in New Jersey many charter schools have very long waiting lists so a lot of parents are demanding charter schools because they're not happy with their Public schools. To the people who think that politicians are taking money away from public schools to give it to charter schools you need to realize that bureaucrats cannot move the funding away from the public schools to the charter schools. That's not how charter schools work. The money follows the children. Each property pays taxes and if the child living in that property goes to a public school then the public school gets the tax money. If that child goes to a charter school then the charter School gets the tax money. The parents that live at that address vote where their tax money goes by choosing the school their child will go to. It is the most democratic system possible. It eliminates the public school monopolies and forces them to compete in the marketplace with every other business. Just like in the business world where you vote with your dollars for the store that you prefer to shop in, you now get to vote for the school you want your children to go to. So it is the parents who are taking their funding away from the public schools and giving it to the charter schools. Charter schools ARE public schools and they must take anybody who's in the district who applies to go to the charter school. If they have less spots available than applicants then they must hold a lottery to randomly select which students will get in. Unfortunately for the parents there are so many people who want to get into our charter schools in New Jersey that they almost always have a waiting list. But they never pick and choose which students on the list to get in. It must be a lottery. The charter schools wouldn't even need to have a lottery for the waiting list applicants if the state boards of education would increase the number of students that they are permitted to have. But typically and unfortunately for the students the State bureaucrats always like to power play with our children's lives.

@genieglasslamp5028

3 жыл бұрын

@@tomlaureys1734 So you agree Michigan should close those 80% of charter schools that are underperforming right?

@tomlaureys1734

3 жыл бұрын

@@genieglasslamp5028 no, the state of Michigan should not close them. The parents should close them by not sending their children there anymore.

"I appreciate their perspective", that means he doesnt... "potentially everybody wins" that means loosing is bound to happen...

@jordanjenks2369

4 жыл бұрын

Sebastian Wardana no it doesn’t just cause he’s a powerful man doesn’t mean he doesn’t want anyone to get through a school system them jus re funded wit millions like think

@chesterpoindexter7594

4 жыл бұрын

I've met guys like him b'fore (fortunately not nearly as rich) - he knows very well what he's doing an' his soft-spoken façade just hints at a more deviant mind than he would have you believe

@ThatTimeTheThingHappened

4 жыл бұрын

wow ya’ll are sooo presumptious

@williambennett4360

4 жыл бұрын

losing*

Wow, it feels rather strange to see airport-style security at a school.

@lucylerma8211

3 жыл бұрын

I know right. Though a high school in my district is similar.

@liberalbias4462

2 жыл бұрын

Some schools are dangerous.

@KamilDeKerel

2 жыл бұрын

its because America doesn't have gun problems, doesn't have depression problems and has very good education

I go to a Charter School. It’s a lottery to get in, unless an older sibling has gotten in before, then the younger siblings get in no mater what. This is not the experience I have had, likely because it’s an IB school. There was only one school closing in my area that I know of, and it was a few years ago. It only happened because it was filled with poisonous insulation

Charter school isn’t a good option. Trade school is the best option. Specially for minorities. It gives us a trade, right out of school, and still provides the academics that you need incase you want to go to college. I went to a trade school here in Massachusetts in which I was making $25 an hour junior year. One week I went to school for academics the other week I went to work on my trade. I graduated and got offered a many good jobs but instead I left my trade and I’m currently in a top university in my state, majoring in Biochemistry going to medical school next. Trade schools give you more opportunities and options. I have friends right now straight out of high school making over $70k a year, just because they followed their trade and have been in it for 3 years.

@AscheDjidoi

4 жыл бұрын

We need more elevator repair people. There's a shortage. Repairs and inspections on most I've seen are expired. If any kids are looking for a trade and reading this, definitely get into it.

@MrMultiMediat0r

4 жыл бұрын

Yes. Trade schools are superior. People are wrong about college. As the infrastructure ages and boomers retire, trades will be even more in demand

@twosidessamestory5333

4 жыл бұрын

Convincing society that a college education is the one and only path to a successful future was as a great a trick as the devil convincing the world he doesn't exist.

@juniorkool21

4 жыл бұрын

MrMultiMediator lol trade school isn’t the end all be all

@juniorkool21

4 жыл бұрын

The problem with some trade school is that there very physically taxing job. That’s why nobody wants to do it. One injury and your done

The man at the end is trying to smile but every questions she asked just results in a look of disappointment in his face

@thejawooshtroll5565

4 жыл бұрын

But he's right. Public schools are failing and these schools going unchallenged will just let public schools continue to fail. And quite honestly I don't care if they fail. The public schools aren't education facilities. They're over glorified day cares and trash

@Hagser

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah…😓

@oOo-dj7pt

3 жыл бұрын

@@thejawooshtroll5565 In my city Lincoln, Nebraska we have this program called The Lighthouse. This organization gives artists a chance to make hand painted hand crafted sculptures. These sculptures are sold on auction to sponsors to be placed in public places around town. One third of the money goes to the artists and the rest goes into providing academic support for our students in public schools. This gives wealthy people and politicians a chance to help our education system and it also adds beauty to our city. Imagine if more cities implemented this strategy to hire teachers and improve programs for students. Please read about The Lighthouse in Lincoln and spread word about this idea to others.

“The nature of competition in education is that one day everyone wins” Gianna Tobini, THANK YOU! The DeVos family is royally screwing over the U.S educational system with these “charter” schools. Schools that guarantee the best education goes to the families that have the money for it. Everyone can’t “win” in the arena of education if something that is constitutionally free becomes a for-profit system.

@ibray567

3 жыл бұрын

you known charter schools are free

Idk if I can live and give back into this country anymore. No Healthcare, lack of public education, needing debt to go to college. What am I even paying for? It's not like social security will be kept up with and support me in my old age.

This is crazy man my school hardly had AP classes. I remember back in my freshman year at college there was one kid that was effectively a junior after having taken AP classes for two years during high school and I felt like I could have saved a bunch of time and money had I been given that opportunity. To put it mildly the system is unfair.

@xxXitakegabbiesXxx

4 жыл бұрын

Elk AP classes are a scam

@2100Awesome

4 жыл бұрын

Pricila J yeah paying $90 to take an exam to potentially save thousands in the coming years... Yep that’s a total scam.

@slug2ss83

4 жыл бұрын

naijaflavor60 could have used a fee waiver

@Shivam5086

4 жыл бұрын

naijaflavor60 well it depends on the college. Some only take 5’s some might take 4’s. If you’re lucky, they might take all three of the passing scores. A lot of the “top” colleges require a 5, which isn’t exactly easy.

@thomasr3805

4 жыл бұрын

Pricila J AP courses saved me an entire semester in college, allowed me to graduate with 2 degrees on time. It’s only a scam if you pay for an exam that you know you will fail.

Just another case of how our government if failing America.

@jordanjenks2369

4 жыл бұрын

Bruh it’s the same everywhere else prob worse yo government actually got money to spend

@justdreamofyou

4 жыл бұрын

Just another case a how the Republican sell out our country to big business

@Mediumdoo

4 жыл бұрын

Republican government

@zacharyknutsen8094

4 жыл бұрын

And yet it has little to spend on its people.

@cozmonyc3

4 жыл бұрын

Get money out of politics #Bernie2020

I must say, that charter schools *can* be good. For example, my school is charter, and I don't wear fancy uniforms or anything like that, we learn about necessary information and we get to do things like starting a community garden, etc.

@sebastianschrader838

2 жыл бұрын

I think one of the biggest takeaways from the video is that charter schools function as businesses, and that simply isn’t the point of schools in the first place. The folks running these schools are in it for the money/profits and NOT for the sake of educating.

@niknacks

24 күн бұрын

@@sebastianschrader838 The reason that they're trying to run charter schools like businesses is because public education in the U.S. really does not compare to other developed countries on so many levels, and interventions in public schools have proven not very successful. Charter schools intend to increase efficiency of spending, increase competition across schools, and increase innovation in education. I would disagree about the intentions of people running charter schools. No one who's trying to make a lot of money goes into education. Even charter schools aren't very profitable, because their only income is from the government. The teachers in public schools and charter schools both want to teach and inspire children.

"Every dollar going to charter schools is a dollar taken away from public schools" So the money follows the student rather staying with the institution that was failing the student? The horror.

@ceciliavalentina25

4 ай бұрын

I know right LOL 🤣

"They dont build new schools anymore, they dont build no hospitals, all they do is build prison prison." Lucky Dube saw this coming

@oOo-dj7pt

3 жыл бұрын

In my city Lincoln, Nebraska we have this program called The Lighthouse. This organization gives artists a chance to make hand painted hand crafted sculptures. These sculptures are sold on auction to sponsors to be placed in public places around town. One third of the money goes to the artists and the rest goes into providing academic support for our students in public schools. This gives wealthy people and politicians a chance to help our education system and it also adds beauty to our city. Imagine if more cities implemented this strategy to hire teachers and improve programs for students. Please read about The Lighthouse in Lincoln and spread word about this idea to others.

@leedza

3 жыл бұрын

@@oOo-dj7pt As commendable as what your city is doing, still begs the question where is the tax revenue going or the is deficit somewhere.

@gdiaz8827

3 жыл бұрын

And those areas are largely led by Democrats

@oOo-dj7pt

3 жыл бұрын

@@gdiaz8827 So what's your excuse when its not?

@gdiaz8827

3 жыл бұрын

@@oOo-dj7pt I'll tell u when I encounter such a case but so far the Democrats are keeping people in bondage

Charter schools are private schools. The families that want their children to go to private schools should pay for the full tuition, no public money. Why is that difficult? Anyone who advocates for for-profit education obviously does not have the public good in mind.

@Ace-nv6ku

4 жыл бұрын

Agree. The school choice folks don't want to pay for the private schools so they want the taxpayers fund them.

@Drumsgoon

4 жыл бұрын

Sure and they won't have to pay taxes for failing public schools? Fair deal!

@truthteller4442

4 жыл бұрын

Charter schools are public schools.

@LSSYLondon

4 жыл бұрын

Charter schools are private schools FOR POOR PEOPLE. That's why the public pays for them. You really think rich families send their kids to Charter schools OR Public schools? No. If you don't want to give the Poor the chance at a better education then keep doing what your doing. At least Charters are trying to maintain and order and discipline that has long since left public education.

I’m blessed to have good education from going to a public school. I never really think about the fact that some people are not able to get a good education, just because of their living circumstances. Imagine wanting to get the proper education but can’t. 😒

@vsammons

Жыл бұрын

Exactly - not all public schools are bad! But many are, especial now days when they seem to put more emphasis on sports and wokeness vs basic educational needs like mathematics. America needs more scientists and inventors. ;)

“FiRst WOrld CoUnTRy”

@chennylouayala4723

3 жыл бұрын

Laughs in asian

@CrafterboeyMiner

3 жыл бұрын

Technically it is but sure go off.

@peytontorain3751

3 жыл бұрын

I don't know how you think this country isn't first world.. but ok

@carolinexoxo1403

3 жыл бұрын

Peyton Torain it’s cause he’s been living here too long and is entitled. Tell him to go be a poor person in rural asia 😹

@marcusvergara6193

3 жыл бұрын

Yo the American education really sucks. You don’t know the definition of first world.

... And Out Come The Corporates

@theburners32141

4 жыл бұрын

Because public schools, especially in the inner cities, are doing well. 👍

@7-11inc.9

4 жыл бұрын

Bolton Michael the private sector allows for competition, public school just keeps getting money.

@Theogvineofthedead

4 жыл бұрын

It's absurd that you can't understand that big government is a corporation and a poorly run one at that. People just blindly give more and more to it instead of letting freedom and competition progress society. I'm honestly disgusted that the regressive left has taken the word progress and tried to make it seem like democrats and republicans could ever actually aid in that endeavor. You can't progress without competition and competition breeds better systems, lower prices and more charity for those that can't afford it. Sure there should be a truely small safety net for the few who can't afford it but to be honest if the government were to get their hands out of public education and relieve us of the taxes associated with it most everyone could afford to go to the best school for them. The traditional system of learning doesn't work for most people. The indoctrination center I was sent to wasn't there to help me or hold me up they just wanted us to remember information and write it down most people don't learn that way and are more hands on. That's why choice is so important. The public school system failed me and many others.

@SurprisinglyDeep

4 жыл бұрын

@@theburners32141 Those inner city schools are in terrible condition in large part due to a severe lack of funding. Most school funding in the U.S. is based on property taxes. A lot of people in poor neighbourhoods don't own their own homes. (Many ethnic minority peoples' ancestors never got the same opportunities to buy homes as white people due to 'red-lining' and a mixture of discrimination by banks and the Jim Crow laws limiting most black ww2 veterans ability to make full use of the G.I. Bill.) m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/d4iGm9OrhraXZ8o.html en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans_and_the_G.I._Bill

@SurprisinglyDeep

4 жыл бұрын

@@7-11inc.9 You're not wrong. However charter schools should not receive the tax money that would otherwise go to public schools if they don't accept all the students of tax paying parents who live in the neighbourhood. Like a case could be made that the parents of kids who go to private schools should have to pay less taxes towards public schools. However even if a parent sends their kid to a private school, they're still funding charter and public schools using their tax dollars.

she went hard on that last sucker..i like that

@ivankavrakov9272

4 жыл бұрын

Well she's obviously biased in a negative way towards the chaps

@chasingdharmaify

4 жыл бұрын

Ivan Kavrakov Because he and his family are swamp monsters.

@jay999tv

4 жыл бұрын

Everyone winning (got me so mad)

@OddWoz

4 жыл бұрын

I thought she went stupid easy on him. Perspective I guess. She let him run with that “choice” narrative without even so much as a counter. Pathetic interview imo.

@johnames6430

4 жыл бұрын

yeah vice hates anything private, they want a full communist society where the gov controls everything and that's all they ever think to promote.

What happens to the kids when their public school has shut down and they are not selected in a lottery for any of the local charters?

i go to the school in this video. i love that i've had the chance to pursue my pilot's license, but i overall don't support the people who are pushing for more charter schools. i used to go to a public school & even though i switched, i still want public education to be high quality and accessible for everyone. it feels weird going to a school that supports the people i don't support :/

@johnganger5503

3 жыл бұрын

I went to this school too. We have a difference of opinions on DeVos, but I think we can both agree that the people commenting on this video have very ignorant views for never having gone to this school.

That guy at the end is like a creepy westworld ceo. And his parents did a great job naming him 🤣

The problem with charter schools is the lack of transparency. I worked at a publicly funded charter and there seemed to be little transparency.

@TheNesbittExperience

4 жыл бұрын

Lauren M yeah, I’ve worked at charters in inner city and it was a disaster. School choice is all lip service by our government. Students choose where they want to go, and many change schools over and over again.

@lillygirl8436

4 жыл бұрын

Thats very interesting i never heard of it where i come from

@lyaries19

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. Money is often mismanaged, long hours for students abs teachers, no unions...list goes on

@sailaway258

4 жыл бұрын

Lauren M what do u mean specifically

@LaurenMca

4 жыл бұрын

sailaway285 public schools have to release the budget and teachers are paid by a specific formula. At the school I worked at the pay was so unbalanced (and I only know this because I scanned the offer letters, the pay is not public information like it is for public schools). Also the reporting standards are not the same so there’s no real way to make sure the schools are teaching what they should be. It’s been well documented that charters take money out of public schools and are known for cases of fraud. I don’t think this is what we should be putting out money into as a country to solve the public education problem. It’s a real band aid to the solution. I think charter schools make public schools worse and we need to focus on equalizing education for each child no matter where they live.

I'm a 21year old American and for the first time in my life I'm ashamed of this country

@ayyo6997

3 жыл бұрын

Loooooooooooooooooooool

i already knew this was detroit when i saw the dystopian streets and the snow

That’s one tough reporter!

@rickardkaufman3988

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. She knows how to cover great stuff of any topic that comes to her.

@hlevin7419

4 жыл бұрын

She really is! She is amazing!

@BridgesDontFly

4 жыл бұрын

Not really. Females chose to kick the fathers out of the home and accept daddy government as defacto dad. You get what you get. Haha

@asdfghjkl-oo7lv

4 жыл бұрын

@@BridgesDontFly I think you're in the wrong comment section buddy. You're making no sense.

@BridgesDontFly

4 жыл бұрын

@@asdfghjkl-oo7lv Your talking about failing schools and poor grades right? Well statically speaking ifa child has a father in the home they do better. So my comment still stands. Edit: space after (if)

Wife: declines interview Vice: Get the husband !

One thing they spoke of is funding. School funding, whether charter or public school systems, both come from LOCAL taxes. Many towns and cities don't have enough jobs and money circulation let alone funding for school. Hence the reason why you see cities with enough jobs and money circulation, can fund their public school system. On the other hand, you see cities and towns with under funded public schools also have under funded charter schools due to the lack of resources. Depending on where your are, the advantage of charter schools is that they can turn some students away. Also, they made a great point of talking about no kid left behind along with test scores. Most schools are forced to prepare kids to take a test instead of genuinely learn. If half a class doesn't understand a basic concept,too bad, we gotta cover the rest of the material on the end of year test and make sure we overcome test anxiety. Schools should be a place where people learn the basic foundation and get prepared for life. When My mother was in school, there was shop class, you can learn to weld, a little intro to being an electrician. My school years (20-30 years later) had us learning, preparing for test, and "preparing" for college, and NOT preparing us for the real world.

The nature of competition is that both are forced to improve.

As someone who went to a charter school: they are ripe for corruption, it's a recurring problem. A lot needs to be done.

@skyjack8541

2 жыл бұрын

Did you ever take any history lessons. If so, you really think something good is going to come from this.

@HighDeafRadio

2 жыл бұрын

@@skyjack8541 I went to a charter school and have followed the stories of dozens of other ones. It always ends with the CEO of the charter school embezzling taxpayer dollars... So yes, I have studied the recent history of charter schools. They're awful.

That guy sounds like a robot who’s on a loop

@treshi

4 жыл бұрын

That guy is such a phoney, that guy looks evil!

I had the misfortune of teaching in two charter schools; both were a nightmare! One was set up intentionally to separate the wealthy kids from the rest; the original persons who created the school spent all of the money on experiences and expendable materials and left when the money ran out. The year I arrived, there was NO budget at all and every staff member was a new hire - I was the only teacher with experience. I can’t even describe the level of cruelty I received from the parents - how do you explain that you’re basically starting a school from scratch with no budget? They’d had it good for a few years, but it was all an illusion. The second charter I taught at was inner city; it felt like a prison. The kids weren’t allowed to talk at lunch and were escorted to classes and the bathrooms. Good teaching starts with building a trusting relationship; why would anyone trust adults who don’t allow for the most basic human rights? The kids’ behaviors showed the classic “you think I’m bad now? Just watch me!” attitude. When charter schools fail, it’s a win for the “business” end, because they just close shop and start a new one with a brand new multimillion dollar grant. This is the opposite of the consistency our kids need, and it stands in direct opposition to our founding fathers’ intentions when they first created a nation-wide public school system. I know there have been badly performing, unsafe schools, but in the case of charter schools, the rich are getting richer while the poor are trained to be inmates. Our children deserve better. And, that interview with DeVos was sickening. Talk about out of touch! He was channeling Marie Antoinette! What a moron.

@joecole7122

2 жыл бұрын

Then go teach at a public school in inner city Detroit.

@amorning2878

2 жыл бұрын

@@joecole7122 Exactly! I had the blessing of teaching in a public school in a wealthy, very well-educated district where they’d tout high test results, but, honestly, you may as well hold a press conference that cream rose to the top - of course their investments paid off! If only we’d truly invest in ALL of our children that way! My first step would be to assign kids in super small groups to well prepared professional educators for multiple years, but the powers that be don’t listen to the soldiers in the trenches. It would NOT be via a charter system, though, because the funding should all go to supporting the kids. (I’d cut back drastically on admin, too!)

Reporter: Studies show that Charter schools do not out-perform traditional public schools Devos Dude: Students are now getting a better education because of charter schools!! I'm stunned

@MrDanielfff777

3 жыл бұрын

Check out Thomas Sowell, this is very one sided

@callmeswivelhips8229

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrDanielfff777 Thank you!!!

@MrDanielfff777

3 жыл бұрын

@@callmeswivelhips8229 you're welcome sir

@johnf.kennedy627

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrDanielfff777 thomas "classical liberal which is actually just a conservative with a college degree" sowell?

@ceciliavalentina25

4 ай бұрын

You have students literally flying in the charter school, and students who don't even have an art class in the public schools.... From what I just saw I would agree with the man.

That man seems so evil... idk something about the look in his eyes at the end

@stasiabri4196

3 жыл бұрын

Right, he’s giving off sociopathic/narcissistic vibes.

@alla.e

3 жыл бұрын

Stasia Bri right!!

@bakuhoe804

3 жыл бұрын

Ally A. That smile at the end just gave me bad vibes 😬

@johnganger5503

3 жыл бұрын

I went to the school this man founded. He has done more for these kids than any of you have. I find your comment repulsive. He single handedly built us a school and bought us an airplane. No one forced me to go this school. It’s funny how you hate when people make assumptions about you, but you are absolutely fine with making assumptions about a man who has built a children’s hospital, a high school, and a multi-billion dollar business😑

The Devos family all have that trademark fake white smile.its just cringe 😬

@How2walkthroughsAB

4 жыл бұрын

"trademark fake white smile" He does seem shady but why are you bringing race into it? Are whites all whites shady to be trademarked? Can a black man never do wrong in this world?

@thomasr3805

4 жыл бұрын

AdmiralBiat I think he/she is referring to their peroxide-white, perfect smile. Not their real teeth.

@How2walkthroughsAB

4 жыл бұрын

@@thomasr3805 Ah cool English is not my mother tongue. Sry for the misunderstanding.

@601bgol

4 жыл бұрын

​@@How2walkthroughsABPhantomRobolox stated "The Devos family" you jumped off the porch with your cape and a bunch of hyperbole, probably sitting in front of your screen waiting to be fake outrage offended, prob one of those who never see race if the shoe were on the other foot, but quick to hop out there though, as if Phantom Roblox would give a damn about how you feel about whether the statement was racial or not!! put ya skirt down b.

@Scarsofevil

4 жыл бұрын

It’s funny how trump assigns people with no experience on these position. I heard Devos never even went to school

Its important to investigate both sides of the debate. Yesterday I listened to an hour of statistics on charter schools in NYC and was surprised and impressed by the increase in student test scores in math and English. While the pu lic schools in the area had scores at 1-2 the charter schools showed s ores of 3-4. What is abundantly clear to me, so far is that public schools in poor urban areas are failing students. Across the nation we have serious problems in our schools. Drugs, crime, assaults, failure and students being passed on to the next grade when they failed the previous grade or two. There's no consequence for failure and there is little consequence for unruly school behavior. As a nation we need to take this seriously as these young people are the future. School reform is needed in many areas. Btw.....I am a public school teacher in an affluent community so our school is very good. Other students aren't so lucky.

@square5726

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t believe dose test scores. I When to a city that had free school choices. To say like this you can skip. All class and still get A in all classes.

Me in a charter high school: 👁👅👁

@ammiedragon9080

3 жыл бұрын

Lol same

@lucylerma8211

3 жыл бұрын

Same🤣

I seriously cannot wrap my head around how the heck this is still happening in a (flawed) democracy

@TESkyrimizer

4 жыл бұрын

We need mob rule again. Tar and feather the lot of them.

@saltymonke3682

4 жыл бұрын

do you know how public school system is funded?

@hamcrazy96

3 жыл бұрын

Because Trump has been undermining democracy for 4 years

@tomlaureys1734

3 жыл бұрын

There is a lot of misinformation about charter schools and this video doesn't help. I don't know if the interviewer gets what the point of charter schools is. It's not about the school's winning. It's about the parents and students winning. If public schools are closing that's an indicator that they're not as good as the charter schools that they're competing with so the parents chose the charter school. That's how business works in the free market all the time. If one company does a worse job of serving their customers than another company then they go out of business and the better company survives. If the charter schools go out of business that's a good thing. That indicates that they were the worst company at serving their customers. If the public schools go out of business that's a good thing. That indicates that they were the worst company at serving their customers. The customer gets to decide which company is good and where they will spend their money. In the case of schools the parents are the customers. I don't know what the charter school situation is in Michigan but in New Jersey many charter schools have very long waiting lists so a lot of parents are demanding charter schools because they're not happy with their Public schools. To the people who think that politicians are taking money away from public schools to give it to charter schools you need to realize that bureaucrats cannot move the funding away from the public schools to the charter schools. That's not how charter schools work. The money follows the children. Each property pays taxes and if the child living in that property goes to a public school then the public school gets the tax money. If that child goes to a charter school then the charter School gets the tax money. The parents that live at that address vote where their tax money goes by choosing the school their child will go to. It is the most democratic system possible. It eliminates the public school monopolies and forces them to compete in the marketplace with every other business. Just like in the business world where you vote with your dollars for the store that you prefer to shop in, you now get to vote for the school you want your children to go to. So it is the parents who are taking their funding away from the public schools and giving it to the charter schools. Charter schools ARE public schools and they must take anybody who's in the district who applies to go to the charter school. If they have less spots available than applicants then they must hold a lottery to randomly select which students will get in. Unfortunately for the parents there are so many people who want to get into our charter schools in New Jersey that they almost always have a waiting list. But they never pick and choose which students on the list to get in. It must be a lottery. The charter schools wouldn't even need to have a lottery for the waiting list applicants if the state boards of education would increase the number of students that they are permitted to have. But typically and unfortunately for the students the State bureaucrats always like to power play with our children's lives.

@lucylerma8211

3 жыл бұрын

It didn't fail my district. We have unique schools like that aviation school, not similar ofc. Honestly, looking at the aviation school reminded me of my schools 2nd building.😥

ohhhhh that guy is truly manipulative and evil. You can tell just by his facial expressions and lack of confidence of good that he claims to do. He takes no responsibility, what a ridiculous individual. He should be dropped from making money and being taken seriously. He does nothing good for anybody.

@jessicajiang8700

3 жыл бұрын

exactly he needs some sense in him.

It absolutely disgusts me that this country can continuously increase the military budget year after year, yet cannot invest more money into our education system. Our government doesn’t care about the people!

I was educated in something similar to a charter school (govt supplied and paid the teachers, but other expenses came from fees) and I'm glad the option was there. The main difference between my situation and the one shown here was that the public school was also a relatively attractive option and perhaps the fact that my school was not run on a for-profit basis. I would have liked to hear more about how exactly the public schools were harmed by pro-charter legislation. It feels like a missing piece of the puzzle.

The look at his face when she hit him with the toughies😂😂😂 at 11:45

@stroads.

4 жыл бұрын

Iconic

@nicholasduenas3359

4 жыл бұрын

In his mind "This interview was a bad idea..."

She ate his heart out. He just had to repeat himself.

@timmcgrath3995

4 жыл бұрын

Justice Johnson That’s usually what happens when you rephrase the same questions

The reason charter schools are privately run is because researchers noticed many of the problems with public schools are rooted in school administrators, who are often "public sector" employees and are highly unionized. Public sector employees who are terrible at their job are often impossible to fire (just ask anyone who works at the VA). This demoralizes teachers and principals, which affects students. Charter schools are EXACTLY like public schools in every way, except administrators are not an integral part of education and they are easy to fire if their policies aren't helping the kids. If you want to clean up education in America, get rid of corrupt school administrators. Until then, charter schools are necessary.

No one: Absolutely no one: Not a single soul: Kid at 9:10: "But teacher, you forgot to accept the assigned homework from last week."

It's not really a choice when you only have one option to choose from.

12:48 Bro, when she punched that line with a smile. I fell in love.

@redman6790

3 күн бұрын

Very witty

I attended a high school in california that turned charter about two years ago. I was lucky enough to have met wonderful teachers and be a part of a great program. I feel bad that this is the reality for so many kids. Kinda sucks that education has become a commodity rather than a privilege

I swear every video I watch on America just baffles me, how is this country still even functioning? xD

@sdafasdfasdfsda

4 жыл бұрын

Cuz we be smart an sheeeet.

@ceceruben6113

4 жыл бұрын

@@sdafasdfasdfsda true worldwide everyone wants to come hear for a reason. We got it all at our fingertips. Spoiled dare i say

@Ayurveduh

4 жыл бұрын

It's not, crumbling quickly

@99batran

4 жыл бұрын

Because people think negative things makes better news, therefore most the positive news are filtered out and is less reported on.

@thewatcher4552

4 жыл бұрын

Pick up ya Bible sis this world and all of it's forms of government is falling.

Beaty Devos tried attacks my school “ East Hartford Highschool” a couple years back and we fought back.

@DrillEntertainmentNetwork

4 жыл бұрын

good

@cutiecutie6494

4 жыл бұрын

👏🏾👏🏾

Public schools are getting rid of honors classes, not giving letter grades, doing everything in the name of equity. Including dumbing our kids down. With covid over 60% of “gifted” kids in my sons class got Under 60% on reading. Meanwhile we switch to an open charter school and they are on average 2 years ahead academically. When some kids want to read Jules Verne while class novels are 100 page chapter books it’s simply not serving ALL the kids. And from what we’ve personally seen it plays to lowest common denominator. Charter schools are basically free. You buy uniforms, not even supplies. Kids are encouraged to have no screen time Monday through Thursday. That in itself is a huge win. Many charter schools are have openings know!

I swear to God, Devos is like a creepy supervillain.

I got chills from the last interview because she was so calm yet provoking at the same time. Love journalism like this.

@oldcrowtj4937

3 жыл бұрын

$$$ The NEA ( teachers union ) brought this on themselves. They ceased to educate. Instead for decades they indoctrinated our youth with the weakness and delusion of liberalism and socialism. They became a tool for Dumocrats. America is waking up to it. They reject it. And rightly so. Municipalities should fire ALL union teachers and replace them independent educators.

The guy at the end irked me so much, I researched who he was. Turns out his father co-founded AmWay. Tells me all I need to know

@asdfghjkl-oo7lv

4 жыл бұрын

Oh that MLM company 😬 he should not be running an education system...

@markg.7865

4 жыл бұрын

He ran for Governor of Michigan and lost, even though Michigan is run by a republican legislators.

@JCosio-bs9xr

3 жыл бұрын

Research the Dunning-Kruger Effect. Imagine telling a black person that their ancestors got caught by slave traders and that's all you needed to know.

@tomlaureys1734

3 жыл бұрын

There is a lot of misinformation about charter schools and this video doesn't help. I don't know if the interviewer gets what the point of charter schools is. It's not about the school's winning. It's about the parents and students winning. If public schools are closing that's an indicator that they're not as good as the charter schools that they're competing with so the parents chose the charter school. That's how business works in the free market all the time. If one company does a worse job of serving their customers than another company then they go out of business and the better company survives. If the charter schools go out of business that's a good thing. That indicates that they were the worst company at serving their customers. If the public schools go out of business that's a good thing. That indicates that they were the worst company at serving their customers. The customer gets to decide which company is good and where they will spend their money. In the case of schools the parents are the customers. I don't know what the charter school situation is in Michigan but in New Jersey many charter schools have very long waiting lists so a lot of parents are demanding charter schools because they're not happy with their Public schools. To the people who think that politicians are taking money away from public schools to give it to charter schools you need to realize that bureaucrats cannot move the funding away from the public schools to the charter schools. That's not how charter schools work. The money follows the children. Each property pays taxes and if the child living in that property goes to a public school then the public school gets the tax money. If that child goes to a charter school then the charter School gets the tax money. The parents that live at that address vote where their tax money goes by choosing the school their child will go to. It is the most democratic system possible. It eliminates the public school monopolies and forces them to compete in the marketplace with every other business. Just like in the business world where you vote with your dollars for the store that you prefer to shop in, you now get to vote for the school you want your children to go to. So it is the parents who are taking their funding away from the public schools and giving it to the charter schools. Charter schools ARE public schools and they must take anybody who's in the district who applies to go to the charter school. If they have less spots available than applicants then they must hold a lottery to randomly select which students will get in. Unfortunately for the parents there are so many people who want to get into our charter schools in New Jersey that they almost always have a waiting list. But they never pick and choose which students on the list to get in. It must be a lottery. The charter schools wouldn't even need to have a lottery for the waiting list applicants if the state boards of education would increase the number of students that they are permitted to have. But typically and unfortunately for the students the State bureaucrats always like to power play with our children's lives.

Schools are being closed in Detroit because everyone is leaving Detroit. Where are you going to get tax dollars if you have no tax payers? Detroit has been losing people for decades now. This isn't new. It is also curious how the left dislikes big business but have no issue with big government. It is also curious that the left wants the universal health care of Europe, but they do not want a voucher system that many European schools employ. It is strange that we are constantly encouraged to sink money into public schools but yet every year the returns are dismal. Why would sinking more money into public schools yield better results? We've been doing it for years and we haven't seen any improvement. Many third world countries spend less money on their schools but they have higher test scores then we do.

@LucasFerreira-lz7ed

3 жыл бұрын

Bill Clinton came up with the idea of ​​bringing in new immigrants to complement Detroit's economy, increasing the purchase of houses, the factories. But you conservatives were more concerned with shouting "Her E-mails" or "Build The wall" than actually listening to the only president who paid the American debt and the one who most created jobs while in office. Your hypocrisy is like bitter wine.

I just spent an entire year during the pandemic homeschooling my kids because they only received one hour of online "instruction" 4 days a week as was negotiated with the teacher's union. Our property taxes NEVER decreased and I never got dime for all of my work homeschooling 3 elementary students. At the same time our private counterparts were OPEN in person. Public dollars should be allocated to directly to children and NOT automatically allocated to one-size-fits-all public institutions. Many families cannot afford to pay 100% for private education and also pay 100% of property taxes to fund public schools that their children don't attend forcing many families to attend public schools. ALL FAMILIES DESERVE SCHOOL CHOICE!

Why didn’t she question him about the conditions of charter schools in low income neighborhoods??? She literally had one job....

@janisdikis3386

3 жыл бұрын

How about public schools in the same neghborhoods?

We really just need to rethink this whole school system it’s all broken 🤧

@DUDEfreestyle

4 жыл бұрын

School, justice, infrastructure, a lot of things are broken and needs attention.

this happened to me in Los Angeles CA and thanks to the public school system and charter schools I lost 2 years of schooling and had to work 3 times as harder to finish and graduate from high school. They closed 3 schools that I attended... I had to do everything on my own and do self study to catch up with everyone else because they shut down the schools I was attending. Now I'm in college majoring in Computer Science but it's all thanks to my own hard work and deciding to get a part time job to pay for my living expenses. At the moment I'm just renting a room, taking public transportation to school and work. I'm 20.

See what happens when money takes the front seat, and the education system is experiencing it now. It always ends up that the entire system gets destroyed.

The lottery is extremely unfair. Choose the most qualified people.

@hatorigirl1202

3 жыл бұрын

The thing is, when you're dealing with 14-year-olds, what qualifications are there to have? Test scores? There's no cap to how many students can do well on a test. This is probably the best way to help their diversity problems, because none of the admissions people are allowed to show their biases in who they choose.

I was appalled at what I saw before your interview with DeVos. Listening to him dance around your hard questions, made me want to punch my laptop!!!!! You are a stronger woman than I am, cause being so close to a lying guttersnipe, I would have broke his jaw. Couldn't watch anymore................

@travislaughlin157

4 жыл бұрын

I felt the opposite. She’s asking questions to find the negative only.

@cadenmorales703

3 жыл бұрын

Jennie Kelly his smile at the end UHG

@yrlocalrat1135

3 жыл бұрын

Travis Laughlin you must be in the devos family

@jenniekelly571

3 жыл бұрын

@@yrlocalrat1135 No, I wanted to hit him (DeVos), not the interviewer.....

DONT GO TO CHARTER SCHOOL. I just finished middle school at a charter school and it sucked I missed out in actual good education and moments of fun please don’t go.

as a former charter school student, it was a frustrating journey the whole 4 years. they focused more on discipline and uniforms than our academics. granted a lot of us did get the help we needed but it was harder on the rest of us because we didn’t see a future that didn’t involve endless college level rigor and mental abuse. we felt like we were in a prison because we were forced to see the day by day exhaustion and angst from our peers and ourselves, to where we would call it [redacted] penitentiary on social media. we paid money to serve our detentions, our demerit/merit system was extensive and stifling, also our summer school/remedial classes were upwards of $140 out of parents’ and students’ pockets. the lottery event is also extremely embarrassing tbh, they’re like some type of academic hunger games districts whenever a new charter school pops up around the area😒

Metal detector in school.... THIS IS AMERICA

@zzzanon

4 жыл бұрын

No that's just ghetto detroit. Detroit ghettos have metal detectors and/or bullet-proof glass in all sorts of places, including fast food locations.

@TheKarthikms

4 жыл бұрын

The bigger joke is the gun laws "amended" into your constitution like it's a basic right. The forefathers who wrote these amendments had their priorities upside down.

@user-rt8sh7xt1d

4 жыл бұрын

@@zzzanon detroit is america, dont avoid the issue

@TheWrestlingFamily

4 жыл бұрын

Just ghetto’s bud, I’ve never seen metal detectors in any schools outside of gang filled cities.

@TheWrestlingFamily

4 жыл бұрын

For those who think this comment is true. www.google.com/search?q=metal+detectors+in+schools+percentage&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS809US809&oq=metal+detectors+in+schools+percentage&aqs=chrome..69i57.9768j0j4&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

it's absolutely ridiculous what they're doing to our education system. if our children aren't educated, how will we compete with china or india or any of the upcoming powers who put so much more resources into education? and of course, trump appointed betsy devos as head of the department of education. wanna know where she got all her millions? yup, charter schools. when schools are run for profit, everything that doesn't make the school more money is cut, and it comes at the expense of education. we absolutely need to reinvigorate our public school system, because the current state of it is just depressing

@BothHands1

4 жыл бұрын

oh, i just got to 5:30 and i'm glad to hear they're talking about the atrocities committed by the devos family. yes, denying education to our youth is an atrocity

@siddheshkakade2888

4 жыл бұрын

I am from India and trust me we are the last you need to be afraid from in terms of education 😁.

@OMVRRR

4 жыл бұрын

Siddhesh kakade but you guys have numbers in people. We were supposed to have the education to match that but we don’t anymore.

@baseddiablo6211

4 жыл бұрын

Being someone who grew up in this system, I can tell you that what you're speaking of is not what we need. People like you ruined our system, with common core trying to compete with these other countries ridiculous education systems.

@lairdriver

4 жыл бұрын

@KRYMauL no it isn't. Taxpayer funded roads are socialist as well?

As a charter graduate, I support the school choice movement. My public school sucked and my charter school saved my education. I am at an elite university now because of my charter school. The teacher’s unions need to stop trying to take over education.

How can you expect high test scores when you essentially make the kids fend for themselves?

9:10 teacher's pet.

@futurafree3669

4 жыл бұрын

I know right like it sounds so fake he can’t even look them in the eye to say that

@dominickjasso5500

4 жыл бұрын

theres alwatys that one kid that makes your eyes roll so hard

@lis880

4 жыл бұрын

He needs a swirlie.

@Bringthapain

4 жыл бұрын

When he says “the opportunity it provides for everyone.” I almost spit out my beer

@Station7Jason

4 жыл бұрын

quit hating

Why? Because the oligarchy wants it so.

DeVos's remind me of the Sacklers. I recently read there were more charter school closures in areas with higher rates of poverty than in lower rates of poverty. We are still leaving children behind. Not all parents are "choosing".

I went to a charter school and it was better for me than public school. The purpose of charter schools is that they specialize in a certain area, like the aviation school in the video. My school focused on math and science with college-level courses. There are many factors why the charter schools have lower test scores, the best thing is that if the charter school doesn't produce results that the parents want, the parents don't have to send their children there! Whereas in a public school, there is not much you can do! I had plenty of teachers in public school that would just put on a video for class and teach nothing. Not to say I didn't have great teachers, but it seemed like the teachers and the overall system of charter schools cared more about the students. They make it seem bad that the schools operate more like a business, what is wrong with that? In a business, to profit, they need to make a product/service that people want, if it doesn't work then the business shuts down. I didn't like how biased this was, but not a surprise since vice is pretty obvious in their politics.

@ceciliavalentina25

4 ай бұрын

I thought the same thing! Competition holds everyone accountable! If the schools shut down that means there is something else better out there! What I don't understand is some of these comments. You literally have students learning how to fly, compared to students saying they don't even have an art class. Such a difficult choice... LOL people are seriously advocating for these crappy schools to stay open.