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Charles Holmes on Kendrick Lamar’s ‘Control’ Verse | Ringer Moments | The Ringer
Join Charles Holmes as he looks back at the night Kendrick Lamar set the rap game ablaze.
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I like this authentic version of Charles. More of this, please.
Bringing in Charles to talk about hating. A+
The control verse was when we found out the drizzler was a sensitive fu**
this is revisionist history. Kendrick was already seen as the next big thing in 2011 before GKMC even dropped, as soon as he signed onto Aftermath/Interscope, since the success of the self-titled EP, Overly Dedicated and Section.80 got the rap world's attention. GKMC was highly highly anticipated, for being a major studio debut album. Because Kendrick was already a known quantity by that point. Maybe not in mainstream, but certainly in hip hop. That's why he could make a Control and it makes waves. If Kendrick was just a total upstart with 2 albums, no one would have reacted like they did to that verse.
@KingCristo
Ай бұрын
💯🎯📠 summed up perfectly 🤌🏾
@_NoHandle_
Ай бұрын
Exactly! Cause Kendrick pretty much did the same thing in "Monster Freestyle" but that was in 2010, prior to GKMC, when Kendrick wasn't as well known.
@mattbrown8280
Ай бұрын
Charles was like what, 18 at the time?
Great analysis 🙌🏿
GKMC made him a superstar... what is this dude talking about.
@SEOshogun
Ай бұрын
Still top 200! 💪🏽
That marissa tomei shirt is fire
Loving these style of videos
"im gonna retire and listen to hyperpop" is killing me lmao
Bring back Chuck's music show!
What I learned from all this beef is, kenny used his talent to fight with different flows, weird ass voice, a bunch of adlibs he keep it raw till now even on stage performance, Aubrey used social media, Ai and autotune
Actually trust what Chuck knows what he's talking about here!
LETS GO CHARLES!
More!!!! Charles gotta come on Yo! That’s My Jawn an’ chop it up about music fr!
Can I get a version of this w/o the cornball background instrumentals?
Mad respect Charles 🙏
Finally....a dork who was 17 y/o at the time this came out is here to tell us how much it matters to the culture.
Keep Hip Hop history alive 👏🏿 good work
Moved a couple thousand is hilarious knowing that TDE released it on iTunes. You'd never get those actual numbers, but even at that time im sure he did more than a couple thousand units.
Nah, kendrick was in discussion with jcole and drake before control. Weird revisionism
@NatureBoii99
Ай бұрын
Exactly! I was like what is buddy talking about
@kingjc44103
Ай бұрын
Facts...I had him there after section 80
@mackstacks8913
Ай бұрын
Not in terms of mainstream popularity. Thats his point. He was a notch below those guys. By the time Damn came out, he was on the same tier popularity wise
@peaboss
Ай бұрын
@@mackstacks8913 dont agree. Game, dre and snoop crowned him king of west coast before gkmc and swimming pools was his biggest hit even after damn. Not once have i heard like he was ounching up when control verse came out. Till this guy.
Hell yeah
The Marisa Tomei graphic t is wild when talking about hip hop 😂
See how happy you are in this, Chuck? You're glowing in the way only someone doing what they know they're meant to be doing-and killing it-can. You're not "the most controversial Midnight Boy" (pew pew) - people are annoyed because in the last few months, you swapped the guy in this video for one who forgot that just being a contrarian for contrarian's sake does not make one insightful or interesting. The good news is you're just going through your emo phase late, and that's okay! It's easy to fix: understand how just referring to yourself as "the most controversial one" in this sums up the whole thing entirely. I bet Van can break that down with the wisdom I sure don't have, and probably with a relevant story from his youth that I'm already jealous I won't get to hear. It's not about what you're for or against; it's the reasoning, or lack thereof, behind it. Which you know, which is why you're great at what you do when you actually do it. See above. ....but I ain't one to gossip, so you ain't heard that from me.
@toyaf73
Ай бұрын
I love this response cause yes.
I'm sorry, but J Cole was not more poppin than Kendrick in 2013.
Both Big Seans and Jay Electronica verses still go hard. KDot killed the track tho.
Let’s go we got the coke baby in the chair
I thought my man Coke Baby was having a stroke at 6:32
This is tough
Drake was seen as the top (below the elder statesmen like Jay, Ye, and Weezy) but kendrick got himself up in that tier of rapper with the GKMC release in 2012. J Cole wasn’t on their tier really til 2014 because Born Sinner came out in ‘13 and had some hits but was widely seen as a disappointment. Cole was fighting on the Wale tier until FHD
what’s with the background music?
I don’t think traditional rapping went away. I just think the more of the girls are rapping traditionally. I know people only want to attribute that to Nicki Minaj, but I’m sure they were also influenced by the rappers mentioned on the Control verse.
I'd rather hear Steve talk about rap
I have to hard disagree, about lemar being special with his debut album coming up. man on the moon was huge, I listened to it on repeat every day when it came out. Until this day it's one of my favourite music albums period.
I was thinking the same thing as who will be the next big thing after these guys are gone...... Even the females it's getting worse
Its weird how the NBA climate matched the rap climate competition wise pre-kendrick... way too friendly
@AllTheArtsy
Ай бұрын
Kobe himself said he sees Kendrick like himself
This guy doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about 🤦🏾♂️ put more respect on k dot’s name
*sigh* Aight
Imagine thinking rap “ended” in 2012 and not mentioning a single female rapper that’s killing it in 2024. Embarrassing lmao
What are we even talking about
@commaJim
Ай бұрын
The song Control mf it's in the title
@Magdalena8008s
Ай бұрын
Keep up Kevin.
@j.p.gonzalez9218
Ай бұрын
You’re not like us
@stm8872
Ай бұрын
Shhhhh. Go home dawg
@brotherdandy
Ай бұрын
There’s an interloper in our midst.
Chuck my guy do you like listen to newer music or anyone besides Drake and Cole? You acting like JID or Joey Bada$$ are not part of the new age of hip hop/rap.
@yugfus
Ай бұрын
Joey is closer to the Kendrick, Drake, and Cole era. JID is a new generation, but I think what the guy means is that folks who rap like JID aren't very appreciated in this era, not that literally no one is rapping like them.
Section 80 was his debut album
@chavo2k7
Ай бұрын
Kendrick’s always referred to it as a mixtape and gkmc as his first album
@smilezup
Ай бұрын
Mixtape
@jordanlopez8644
Ай бұрын
@@smilezup no it was a studio album under TDE
@AllTheArtsy
Ай бұрын
yup, GKMC is a major label debut, but not his debut album
@jordanlopez8644
Ай бұрын
@@AllTheArtsy yeah the difference is the label deal, he signed with Interscope and aftermath.