Aston did a very good explanation of the failure. When I bought my 2015 M6 I thought I was excluded from the rod bearing failure... But unfortunately u can probably tell what happend. Luckily my car was under 3rd party warrenty so I am soo happy but if you have a s63 engine please get your oil sampled and prevent what happend to me

@BMW_G81_M3

3 жыл бұрын

hella-flush Was aware of the S85 and S65 rod bearing issue, first time I heard of an S63 - very unlucky!

@ksm1985

3 жыл бұрын

I think you can only sample it if it is before a certain year? Not 100% sure

My day just gets 100 times better when I see evolve has a new upload 👌🏼🖤

@NazimUddin-yk2tz

3 жыл бұрын

For sure gassed

@CanIbeFrank

3 жыл бұрын

They're the Best BMW channel on KZread. You'll love my channel as well

You really coming into your own with these in-depth technical videos, well done!

@EvolveAutomotive

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Everyone seems to be loving with that red japan e92.... But me, i admire Imran's beard! Thats soo neatly kept! 😜😂

@EvolveAutomotive

3 жыл бұрын

Good barber 😅

This is by far the coolest video on the rod bearings I have seen.

Aston did the rod bearings on my M3... really knows his stuff.

Excellent video, great explanation from Aston 👏🏻

This was a pleasant "episode"... as always :) The bearing on my 2008 M3 was in a much much better condition after preventive swap at 74,000 miles! The previous, and first owner, didn't lie when he said he never abused the engine cold. Not an regular basis anyway. Just got a little more confidence in my car, I thank you for that! Please keep the E9xM content coming. Any thoughts on doing something crazy like long headers, LSD... or why not a stroker kit? :P

@EvolveAutomotive

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. More content coming but keeping it simple with this build. Doesn't need much in our opinion for road use.

Love these edits guys, very well explained and great knowledge shared so Thankyou !

This is my new favorite car channel. Great video work everyone!

you guys did my mate james' rod bearings last year, he took me out in it last weekend!......:))))))))

Brilliant to hear the technical part of the rod bearings

Excellent video and nice work by Aston. I know the job well having built a load of engines myself but its great to hear someone explaining it so clearly for other viewers.

Absolutely love your videos. The video quality and such detailed explanation and process. Bravo !

Man, really like your level of calmness. Nice video 👍🏻

I love Japan Red. What a great looking car!

Great video and a detailed explanation from the mechanic 👨‍🔧! Amazing professionalism👍🏿👍🏿!

This guy knows his BMW's..like the palms of his hands..👏👏👏

Awesome content and production quality guys

I like the way youve explained the teardown bolt for bolt part for part process but speed the time up excellent.. kinda like a comprehensive guide.. 10/10 well done

I’m ur biggest fan ..u men such a legend ....always hits different,,,u explain everything is very clearly

Great explanation and walk through.

Well explained.

This is actually very interesting and understand why they need doing now, want to get an e92

Excellent video.....it was a idea to get Aston explaining his task

Amazing work guys very high quality

Very good explanation. You guys structure the videos really well. Subbed!

Brilliant video! love the explanations, well presented and informative.

Great explanation from Aston. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Atb.

I love your channel Imran. Makes me want to buy an E92 M3 just to drive down from Edinburgh and get you guys to work on it. Highly informative and always keeps my attention for the whole upload ( which is rare these days ). All the best

@EvolveAutomotive

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad you are enjoying our content. Appreciate the comments.

Wonderful explanation from Guru Aston once again. I think I could do a few bearing changes myself from the amount of videos I've seen of this kind from Evolve. Aston looking more and more like Imran in videos now. Just needs them trendy specs!

great content guys, really enjoying the videos recently 👌

Incredible view from underneath and well explained... Great job! 🙌👍

Awesome car stunning colour brilliant video

Top quality explanation and video thanks guys 👍

Awesome video bro loving the detailed content

New subscriber after the Hamza upload and I can now see why Hamza came to you guys! Very informative and insightful 👍

This is now my favourite BMW related channel. Well done guys. Awesome to see your M5 on carwow drag race.😎

Like the new format, very informative. Would have been nice to see 1 set go in at normal speed. 👍🏼👍🏼

I love your work 🖤

Awesome video! Great explanation yall

Fab M3...colour is great too

Love these types of vids

Really good video. Absolute credit to KZread 👊🏻

Great video! The Rod bearings from the F90 6:02 have some wear too.

@vp5

3 жыл бұрын

Wear

More of Aston on the cam he’s a natural ✊

Fantastic video and in depth without being boring. I’ll definately be making the long trip to evolve when mine need done, but I’m only on 41k at the moment.

@EvolveAutomotive

3 жыл бұрын

If you’re budgeting to get them done we don’t overly see the point in waiting for a certain mileage. We have heard a few stories where they failed a few thousand miles before the owner felt they needed to be changed. We would advise changing them at 60k+ for peace of mind, but if it were my personal car I would get them changed as soon as I bought it. I’m not going to do 70k so it just gives me ultimate peace of mind.

@sanmarino_cs1698

3 жыл бұрын

Evolve Automotive That’s a valid point, and I know from them on, it will only ever have been properly warmed up. It’s a Sunday toy so the milage increase will be very low. The only problem is, when I’m making the journey from Scotland, I’m not coming home without that plenum and airbox too 😂😂

Wowwww, so weel present. Weel done guys, keep up with the good work 👏 bmw for life

Dam I need one of those m3’s in my life ,,, then it’s coming straight to you guys 👌🏻💪🏼

You have created the best m5 f90 in the world

@EvolveAutomotive

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

great video

Aston is the “man” today!👌

The E92 is the best M3! Look at this beauty

Sick wit it

Still waiting for a rod bearing service for my s65 with Turner Motorsports

Fav car

Love your channel after coming across it through LLF, no bullshit just nice guys doing excellent work. If I have money left when my kids grow up and I get the BMW M5 I dream of I know where I am taking it for any Mods :)

Carbon Citizens - I75, what a banger!

Aston made that look simple, but you just know that its not ;-) Top video, top tutorial, and a top car too. Thanks guys.

Exactly the mods I'd do mate if I hadn't sold mine

Great video and really informative. It looks to me like the rods are paired so I just wondered what stops them from wearing against each other where the two faces are side by side?

@EvolveAutomotive

3 жыл бұрын

I asked Raza from RK for a better explanation of this - “Everything touches each other but they’re riding on their centerline axis so the interference is minimal and negligible. The oil is also being pushed out of the bearings and pushes each rod away from each other and the crank itself, that’s how the entire system stays floating with clearances”

@stumonkey17

3 жыл бұрын

@@EvolveAutomotive That's good to know. Thanks for the response and thanks to Raza as well. Just seemed worth asking as the wear was so significant on the shells that it seemed like this could be a further problem.

As clearance is one of main issues what are the new bearings selected with more clearance?

I've just got one question for imran, what do you think of the E46 M3s ❓❓

Great video, my E92 is at 48000 miles now. Wondering how long i should wait

@Alexander_l322

3 жыл бұрын

Get them done ASAP mate better to do soon than wait.

Hi love your channel, Is there a reason you don't do any of the E93 convertibles???

@EvolveAutomotive

9 ай бұрын

We get a lot through the workshop

Did you guys change the bolts aswel. I use to warm the car up to the max temp which is easy and quicker for where i live. Good to see that u also dont feel the car needs break in time after the replacement. First few minutes should be ok.

@EvolveAutomotive

3 жыл бұрын

We change them with OEM replacements. They are stretch bolts and must be replaced. We advise customers take it easy on the drive home but there is no run in period for a bearing change.

Love these videos! I know getting to the 400whp club is kinda hard with the S65. Does your stage 2 get close? Any experience with aftermarket headers? I’m also not sure if the power figures of the e92 are slightly different between your cars and the ones in the US.

@EvolveAutomotive

3 жыл бұрын

The highest we have had NA is 464bhp which is probably around 400whp. That was a strong base car, Eventuri Intake, Stage 2 ECU Tune and our X-Pipe

Would it be better to build a rod bearing that during cold temps, has loose tolerances, and tighter tolerances as it warms up? It should allow oil into the bearing during start up. Shape-memory alloy?

Excellent, quality video that.. I look online at E92 M3s, or even (dare I say it) E60 M5 or E63 M6... Knowing about rod bearing issues particularly with the V10 is what makes me nervous though..

@EvolveAutomotive

3 жыл бұрын

With an M3 if you get the rod bearing service done and look after the car you’ll be fine. The M5/M6.... 😅

@waynester71

3 жыл бұрын

@@EvolveAutomotive Just the answer i was after...appreciate that 👊 M5/6 yeah.. where's my head at 😄

It will be interesting to install some Long tube headers to the M3! We wanna see if there is any gains from as well as the sound!

@EvolveAutomotive

3 жыл бұрын

No gains

thank you for your quick response, are there any major problems with the folding roof? cheers.

@EvolveAutomotive

9 ай бұрын

Not that we’ve seen but not something we would have a huge amount of experience with

Trying to figure out.. OE, ACL or ACL HX? Which one and why?

Well done great job Emran I’ve got a question mate if I install the downpipe in my m5 f90 without turning it will be drivable or what will happen please advise thanks

@EvolveAutomotive

3 жыл бұрын

Will be drivable but engine management light on the dash. If it is fitted with OPF I believe it will go in to limp mode but haven’t tested that for sure.

Do other BMs need this doing regularly?

excellent brief video, pardon me to state that the removal/installation of the bearings was quite fast to illustrate for amateurs that wish to give it a try, thank you so much

@EvolveAutomotive

3 жыл бұрын

We don’t intend this video to be a DIY, just a behind the scenes look for people who want to understand the job more.

Can you fix this issue with aftermarket parts?

How long are the rod bearings good for after a service?

How do u know if ur rod bearings need to be change!

Hi. I notice in your rod bearings videos you don't appear to measure the rod journals with a micrometer or use plastiguage to measure the clearance between the new rod bearings and the crank. Is this not necessary or are the new OE bearings 'one size fits all'? Interested as I am about to purchase an E92 and will likely change the rod bearings myself. Many thanks and love the channel 😊

@markshaw4949

2 ай бұрын

Hello evolve. Are you able to answer my question please? Thanks 😂

Does this issue also affect N54 engines?

how long it takes you to replace

Spun my rod bearings earlier this year. New motor in now atleast.. Sounded like metal tumbling in a washing machine for a second, I let off the gas, but engine was already locked up. Happened going from 1st to 2nd around 8000rpms, dct after taking off from a stop. Full running temp.

@Largeone1968

3 жыл бұрын

Which engine and what mileage? I feel for you. Hopefully it’s not too crippling.

@EvolveAutomotive

3 жыл бұрын

Hate to hear it! Unfortunately ensuring the car is up to temperature only helps prevent excess wear, once the wear has already been done then even when up to temperature a bearing can spin.

@YZFR6Yammie

3 жыл бұрын

@@Largeone1968 2011 m3, s65 and around 85k miles.

@YZFR6Yammie

3 жыл бұрын

@@EvolveAutomotive Yea sadly it had multiple owners before me

Is your watch an avenger or a super avenger if its the company I think it's is good colour too

Why not put the King STD bearings in? Should push the service interval life of the bearings out a bit

Great video! How much does a job like that cost?

@EvolveAutomotive

3 жыл бұрын

£1500 inc VAT

Therapeutic to watch!

Done a full fork and blade change with new bearings too...on a 90 litre diesel engine 😂 Apart from the weight, its easier since everything's accessible and you don't have to remove anything for it😉

Nice omega alpha

What mileage would you suggest changing the bearings? I bought my E92 M3 in 2016 with 16k miles on a 12 plate. 2 owners before me. You did my stage 2 for me. Car is currently on 29k miles and I always warm it up. Oil is changed once a year regardless of miles done. Oh, and absolutely loving the Carbon Plenum 😁👌

@EvolveAutomotive

3 жыл бұрын

The problem always is you just can’t be sure how the previous owners treated the car. If you’re thinking of selling it in the next 10-20k I probably wouldn’t worry too much, but if it’s a forever car I’d probably do it just so I knew it was all good. Glad you’re enjoying the car! Ours really needs the full Eventuri and Stage 2 now 🤩

Is this common only for the bottom rod bearing to wear, I am assuming the top rod bearing is serviceable but at longer intervals?

@EvolveAutomotive

3 жыл бұрын

The main bearings are only possible to be changed with an engine strip down, and we haven’t seen a real issue with them.

Curious why you went with OEM and not aftermarket like BE Bearings with extra clearance and their custom ARP rod bolts? Did a lot of reading and this seemed to be the ‘correct’ fix.

@EvolveAutomotive

3 жыл бұрын

We choose to use OEM parts because of the available long term testing to show that they work.

@Antimatter.

3 жыл бұрын

Evolve Automotive Awesome vid BTW kudos to you and your mechanic , So your saying that a well maintained , frequent oil changes the rod bearings can last much longer than 70k ?? Can you tell me does this apply to the M5/M6 S63tu do they have the same rod bearing issue ? Thanks

@akkando

3 жыл бұрын

@@EvolveAutomotive I would argue testing show that they don't work, otherwise we wouldn't all be putting fresh bearings and bolts in. Also the BE spec ARP bolts are much easier to install instead of the complex OEM bolt torque procedure. The BE spec ARP bolts reduce the chance of a mistake during install, so at the very least I would use those no matter what bearing goes in the engine.

@akkando

3 жыл бұрын

@@Antimatter. There have been plenty of cases of cars that have been treated well spinning a bearing, and cars that are treated like crap that are fine. It would seem a bigger factor is the variance of clearance from car to car because there is always SOME variance with bearing size, or maybe some OEM bolts come a little loose over time as they stretch.

Is better if you clean the oil pump pipe before you close oil sump

Rod bearing spinning? Are you not confusing the rod bearing wear issue with the S55 crank hub failure problem?

@EvolveAutomotive

3 жыл бұрын

No, when a rod bearing fails it will often fuse itself to the crank and spin

Quick question evolve...if the rod bearings were forged like in the F90 engine rebuild, how often would those bearings need changing? Thanks for the awesome vids as per usual

@vp5

3 жыл бұрын

Bearings shells aren't forged. Designed to be from a softer material intentionally

@Soljy819

3 жыл бұрын

@@vp5 Thanks

@kurtishb2202

3 жыл бұрын

Never, because in an engine rebuild, they aren't going for economy, less fuel consumption or emissions. Therefore, they made the clearance way bigger than factory, that they never worry about ever changing. But just like any engine, it does require reaching optimum temperature before hammering it otherwise you will destroy a forged engine also.

@scotwilson4169

3 жыл бұрын

The whole point of rod bearings, and most bearings tbh is that they act as the weak point in the system, sort of a sacrificial part. Thats why they're made of white metal with a substantially lower melting point than all other materials, so you can do as these guys did and swap them out. Which is A LOT better than having to potentially replace crankshaft and conrods in the event of a failure. You can also send a sample of your oil off to somewhere like Intertek (not sure if they do non-commercial customers) and they will analyse your oil for metal particles, specifically white metal. So if you have a high quantity of white metal in your oil you know your bearings are on their way out. Don't know many people that do that though, its a bit of a hassle.

@Soljy819

3 жыл бұрын

@@scotwilson4169 appreciate the knowledge 🙏

I went with VAC bearings and bolts for my n55 f30. You said that this is a serviceable item. 2 questions: 1. Is this true for upgraded hardware? 2. Wasnt the car at 60k already, therefore are you suggesting to switch in another 10k or or anther 70k? With aftermarket or oem bearings and bolts?

@EvolveAutomotive

3 жыл бұрын

We do not have any data for upgraded hardware as we have not seen enough examples of their long term wear. After another 70k - That is in Astons opinion.

Bmw FOREVER 🔥🔥🔥🔥

even more interesting would be if evolve takes some diesel whether 3-4 series or even previous e92 335d and make maximum modifications for maximum performance to rival m cars. or even takes the triturbo or quad m50d and maxes it out with mods to rival m5....that would be good rivalty video with fans from both petrol and oil burners.

So no need to initially take it easy (limit rpm) on the engine after replacing the rod bearings?

@EvolveAutomotive

3 жыл бұрын

Not particularly. We advise customers to drive it home ‘normally’ before any spirited driving, but this is more a belt and braces rather than requirement.

When you do mods on your E92 and there is a difference for E90 please explain what part is needed. Thanks! 😊

@EvolveAutomotive

3 жыл бұрын

The only part we plan to fit that would be different to E90 is I believe the rear spoiler.

@musselicious

3 жыл бұрын

Evolve Automotive ok thanks 😊👍🏻 One more question, can you let us know if it’s possible to retrofit more modern preferable BMW genuine M3/M4 parts on E9x for example a Performance sterringwheel with display and Car seats. What is possible and what is not worth it if it’s too much trouble or cost because of incompatibility depending if it’s from F or G platform 😊 Or if it’s more easier to use other brands like Aza Auto Wheel, Recaro etc. In other words make it modern and sporty within reasonable price and without hassle or decoding.

@EvolveAutomotive

3 жыл бұрын

It may be possible but it’s not something we have done or would offer. You would need to research within the community. I believe I have seen F8x seats in an E9x but how much work it requires I do not know.

@musselicious

3 жыл бұрын

Evolve Automotive If you do something like that in future, show us here on the channel 😊 You can make a Restomod series or something 💙 Thanks for all your content and cool cars 🤘🏻

How do you remember where each bolt goes when you put things back?!?

@EvolveAutomotive

3 жыл бұрын

Experience 🤓