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I worked as a Lead Psychologist and Clinical Director for prison systems for 7 years. I think educating the public on the realities of the prison and criminal justice system in the United States is absolutely critical. I talk to so many people who have strong opinions about the justice system with absolutely no factual understanding of it. They are based on emotions instead of logic. I don't necessarily agree with turning it into a fun entertainment experience (this is an extreme example, but would you want to turn a concentration camp into a haunted house?) Prison is violent, inhumane, and terrifying. It's not a cute fun place to joke about ghosts. Real people are murdered and commit suicide in there. Real physical and sexual assaults happen. People are abused and tortured. People are executed. Riots happen. It's not fun and shouldn't be presented as such. We need to get a handle on ourselves.

@Anime4Life9861

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That Guy from The Office said it was Great!

@levymoyer8391

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@@Anime4Life9861 can’t believe they don’t have dementors.

@Anime4Life9861

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@@levymoyer8391 they were Flying All Over The Place!

@levymoyer8391

Жыл бұрын

@@Anime4Life9861 😂

12:30 you can’t compare a cop and a civilian claiming their right to remain silent; they’re two vastly different things. When a cop claims their right to remain silent, the cop is allowed to go home and get their story straight with their lawyer and their police union. When a civilian claims the right to remain silent/to not self-incriminate, they’re tossed into an overcrowded jail. The porcine will do everything they can to prevent the detainee from speaking to a lawyer; unless the cops are secretly recording everything the detainee discusses with their lawyer, then they’re extremely helpful.

@shannonarmon5285

Жыл бұрын

Most of the time they have to wait for Internal Affairs who basically help them lie.

I never even thought of prison tourism like this. The world needs more vice docs 😌

I did go to Alcatraz but was more interested in the occupation of it more than its role as a prison.

@joshuahernandez2566

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean you were more interested in the occupation of it? I don't understand the distinction.

@darthtortugas

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@@joshuahernandez2566 kzread.info/dash/bejne/mXmhw8drgNa9eqw.html&ab_channel=GoldenGateNationalRecreationArea

@idhatemet00

Жыл бұрын

@@joshuahernandez2566 i think he was referring to the native american occupation of the prison grounds after it had been abandoned by the government from 1969-71

@joshuahernandez2566

Жыл бұрын

@@idhatemet00 oh I didn't know about that, thank you

Might as well do something with the abandoned buildings

@an2x453

Жыл бұрын

Yea tear em down!

@FlukeTog

Жыл бұрын

Haunted - level them. Then again who knows we might need them hmm.

@batgirlp5561

Жыл бұрын

Make them into low cost housing. There is a housing crisis.

Always watching from Georgetown Guyana south America 🇬🇾🇬🇾🇬🇾🇬🇾

there are different ways to look at everything.. perspective is powerful

It's incredible how a State can wrongfully convict a person, take their lives away for decades, and then wash their hands, when the person is exonerated, and take no responsibility. They want YOU to take responsibility for your actions (if you committed a crime), yet they won't take responsibility for their actions by compensating you for the life THEY wrongfully interupted. It's wrong.

Having a haunted house inside of a prison is extremely disrespectful to all who endured time there.

'You put monsters in here, people unconsciously begin to think prison is full of monsters' A question so unbelievably stupid, only a Vice journalist could have asked it

@charlesmiv3842

Жыл бұрын

Actually, it's quite a brilliant and thought provoking question. It makes a lot of sense. Especially with how dumb the U.S. population is in general

@skeetrix5577

Жыл бұрын

stop lying that question was pure fuckery

@DeyRapingEveryone

Жыл бұрын

@@charlesmiv3842 If that's thought provoking to you, your thoughts are extremely basic.

@acanadianbear6966

Жыл бұрын

I'm guessing what the journalist was trying to convey is that not all prisons house criminals(in your typical textbook definition). There's plenty of historical cases where you have emprisoned political opposition, the unwanted(i.e.: homeless) or the innocent. So, the idea is to not immedietaly think that all prisoners are criminals(aka monsters). Hope that clarified it. Tbh, a halloween night at an abandoned prison does sound amusing.

@aquariusthompson8212

Жыл бұрын

@@DeyRapingEveryonethats not nice to say every person who commented here have basic thoughts lol. You are just a complex thinker , nothing wrong with ppl who arent complex thinkers and can think with simplicity lol. Every person who commented their opinions on this video had their thoghts provoked even Jim Digriz, otherwise they wouldnt have commented. The prolem with being a complex thinker...you dont get the simple things.

13:20 changing a toxic culture starts with true accountability

Brave Vice standing up to museums! Go get 'em!

Thank You for having us on. Amazing convo.

That last lady was incredibly well spoken and gracious. As a man I couldn't imagine going in at 18 and coming out 20 years later with her state of mind. I'd be full of hate, 100%.

It's amazing how this abandoned prison in Philly is like 3-4 blocks from the ART MUSEUM (Rocky Statue). So much despair comes from the prison, hope and excitement come from the Rocky Statue.

I don't see how this is a problem, really. People like the morbid and grim. Look at our obsession with serial killers, true crime or learning about medieval torture methods, etc. Being attracted to the prison museums (and as a museum, that means it's no longer in use...) is just an extension of that. It's only natural to be curious.

@polkunus

Жыл бұрын

Because it trivializes a real issue in america

Best show in existence right here

2001 MTV had Fear and I saw the episodes with Eastern State Penitentiary and USS Hornet

People enjoying silly ghost tours and haunted houses: Vice: "bUt wHaT aBoUT tHE cRiMIals!?!?!"

I was not happy when you brought the officers on and they said something like, “We don’t talk about the departments. Just ourselves.” Like if you’re not willing to whistleblow then why are you here? And when they said the solution was individuals. That’s a necessary part but it’s far from a solution. Qualified immunity, lack of accountability and transparency, police departments investigating themselves, quotas, civil asset forfeiture, police gangs, etc. Good individuals will not be enough to fix all of that. In fact if they’re truly good, they probably won’t be allowed to remain in the force because police really don’t like being held accountable.

Thank you for doing this clip

14:00 peoples voices rising in pitch can be seen as a sign of misconception this dude cappin

"look at the orbs" yeah it's called dust 🙄

@charlesgale4257

Жыл бұрын

scary

@X2LR8

Жыл бұрын

Not always

@longdong3889

Жыл бұрын

She likely has a huge collection of crystals, dreamcatchers, a twice used yoga mat in her car and a mermaid or angel tattoo

Thank you for your presentation, .

You can tell both of them cops are straight up lying

@inputreflector

Жыл бұрын

Cops being cops ey

Me visiting alcatraz as a kid - mom I don't like the festival we're at lol It's history it was informative.

@FlukeTog

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha yup no thank you.

I would 100% go to a haunted holicaust museum

Mount Joy prison in Dublin City in Ireland used to bring school children into the men's prison on the dinner hour between 12 and 2pm, while prisoners were locked in their cells, as way of educating children where they can end up if they go down the wrong path and also on the history of the prison as it is quite old. It made a lot of sense to me and I thought it was a good idea.

" _ make yourself Sharp" Spot on that was what I did I worked out as best I could and I read psychology & law books at night! But basically I was trying to get my mind right and ascertain the situation and try and navigate my current environment as well as the environment that I would be going back to upon release! That was released May 2009 and I haven't gone back yet. This isn't too Bragg it's just the obvious benefits of education and knowing how to form/ask the right question to get the correct answer. Constantly paying attention being self-aware an accepting of my limitations are things that I learned while being in there through self discipline / teaching myself how to control my temper and read a room. Then these don't have to be hostile situations. Rather, the total opposite, For example they can be your everyday disagreement or something picked up on your way to work, gym etc. Simply applying the right amount of moderation will always put you ahead an diffuse any kind of potential negative/toxic/bad blood in the future. Understanding & embracing your natural empathetic self. & if you work on yourself the gains will stack up and empathy will be your guiding force!! Almost every action will come from & this inner place of understanding. You look at problems or disagreements as lessons that will only better you down the road. That every conflict has a positive outcome with the right mindset.

Old run down buildings should be used for a haunted house. Would help bring in money to education during the rest of the season. Best usage of it

Other counties than the US, not central or South America, have more humane prisions.

This is nothing new. The Victorians had what they called "the pornography of the prison" where you could pay 50 cents or a similar amount of money at the time and tour an active prison. Eastern State Penitentiary was a prime example of the "separate" incarceration system (versus the "congregate" system where people eat together, work together, and usually have a cellmate). When I took the tour in 1997, they emphasized that the solitude drove people insane. Eastern State had part of "12 Monkeys" and "Return to Paradise" made there in 1995 and 1998, and the money that they got from the production company was an important source of funding for the prison stabilization fund.

Wonderful, thought-inspiring piece. Seeing Tyra's story is uplifting while simultaneously heartbreaking. Part of me wishes I could go back in time and make it better, but I do think in her case, prison may have actually been leading her toward her true calling which is advocating for others in her position, and helping the next generation (hopefully) be just a little better than the current or previous.

So glad vice got that $$$ donation. No more blood in the gutters! Keep everyone aboard, please.

Interesting

I don’t know really how to feel abt things like the haunts in prisons. On one hand it is for the horror. Horror is supposed to be the worst parts of humanity. At the same time I think it is wildly inappropriate to be hosting scary haunts in a place that faced real life suffering and torture.

I don't believe a word the silverback guys say. Everybody in the streets love them and yeah they would totally tell on their fellow officer if they assaulted somebody during the course of an arrest.. yeah yeah whatever sounds good

@artlovepeace42

Жыл бұрын

I want to believe them when they say they want to be a positive force for change, but their words ring hallow to me as well. There has not just been a lack of trying for true reform for policing at the level that is needed across the US, but anything that is merely suggested towards such goal has been actively fought against by the police. In the Silverbacks defense, they are just 2 guys working in an unfathomably enormous system, that is actively working against the 2 men’s stated goals. They fell back on "body cameras will catch it" when asked about testifying against a fellow LEO and said they felt everyone would testify (I don’t agree). But nearly every police force have tried to reject using body cameras. So the very thing they are stating solves a big problem within agencies with lying police, was actively worked against. I think they are coming in with blinders on. They are coming to the problem as insiders; looking at policing as a few rotten ones spoil the bunch. When after seeing week after week, year after year, that policing is rotten to its core; the few are the unspoiled ones. And if the few unspoiled "good" ones assist or defend the rotten ones, than can we really call them good at all? Of course also I think police have been put in an unfair position of taking on more duties that are outside their expertise (I.e. mental health services) and should be put on a more specialized force, not lumped in with LEO. I always want to believe others are trying their best and want to be a good force in the world, but obviously something is very wrong in police across the board and for now, they don’t get the benefit of the doubt.

I liked the 5 min intro about jail tourism before the segue into social justice 😏 You went full Vice News.

Comparing a prison to a concentration camp is a massive stretch.

hey my office is in this video

Why challenge it?🤷‍♂️

Thank you for bringing attention to these issues. Please continue with this series! We need reform yesterday.

that prison is badass and a historical building. it's good it's being put to use.

There's a popular prison museum nearby, and a cell block converted apartment building. It's fantasized and I've never seen the appeal. Haven't been to the museum but I had friends that lived in the cellblock, and idk.

@themadlibrarian2933

Жыл бұрын

The Netherlands converted the site of a former prison to Casino Holland in Amsterdam.

Why why can't these huge empty prisons,,sanitariums be put to good use....done over,brought up to speed and maybe home * houseless* people's.since 2008 malls shut down,dept stores! Empty.invest $$ and house people.u can get rid of bad shite by filling the spaces with colors,light and warmth.

You did not lose your 20's to the prison system , you gave them your 20's through your crimes .

Went to Alcatraz Because of Rebirth Island Thanks Call of Duty

FREE TOP G.

There's no reason at all to challenge our attraction to prison museums. They provide us with interesting opportunities for fun and unique experiences!

@charlesmiv3842

Жыл бұрын

No....

@ALotOfCancer

Жыл бұрын

No

@yemo34

Жыл бұрын

@@charlesmiv3842 found the criminals.

@ALotOfCancer

Жыл бұрын

@@yemo34 Crime is cool and sexy

@ShannonLH1108

Жыл бұрын

Wrong.

Hoopla When I get to Cali I'm going to Alcatraz! Once again people are trying to change history and impose their judgement of right and wrong upon others. I'm a 4 time felon and find this argument irrelevant.

I’d be interested in seeing the engagement statistics for the average Vice video these days. I’m sorry- but it’s just not there. I am bored every single time I watch. If it’s an interesting topic, I try to find another channel with a more engaging video elsewhere. Maybe it’s the odd house-adjacent-but-80s backing track, maybe it’s the bland disposition of your journalists, maybe it’s the editing or timing of the footage. But it’s just 💤

@adssadassssdsa3582

Жыл бұрын

Social blade records every YT channels growth.

link up with some prison youtubers like jay williams

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@13:40 We shouldn't allow cops to investigate and interrogate other cops. The state FBI and DA should be involved at that point. It should be taken out of the hands of the state police and put into a higher authority's hands. For a criminal behavior psych class I had to go to Twin Towers and another prison with my class, but it was for educational purposes. I still felt uncomfortable like a gawking tourist. It was extremely embarrassing because I felt like I was invading what little privacy they had.

Vice, you guys need some content suggestions or something? What the F am I watching?

Haunted houses are so much fun! I went with family to the haunted house on the strip in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina(July 2021), one of the kids with us thinks he is so tough but ran like fire 🔥 was up his ass when the actor jumped out with a chainsaw!! 😂😂😂😂. We laughed at that for the rest of the night, pure joy.

It's bad to run a haunted house with monster's in an old prison. I like vice but that was wack. 🤣🤣🤣

that lady is a fucking buzz kill that haunted house looks hella badass I wish I didn't live so far away otherwise I'd check it out without a doubt

@JennaF6784

Жыл бұрын

😂😂 I said that too! She is so bitter and probably very lonely! Eastern state is amazing! The museum and the haunted house! Plus tons of delicious restaurants! Philly is amazing!

Like umm moster live here what a dope head reporter wow

rofl vice so left and racist anymore its great. they went to see monsters on Halloween and they automatically assume that its directed to inmates.

For anyone who's wondering the "haunted house" at 1:19 is Philadelphia Eastern State Penitentiary. Every year they host what they call "Terror Behind The Walls". I've been there before, and it's not as scary as you'd think, but it's definitely a fun time!

I live close to philly and for my 16th birthday a few years back my parents got me and my friends tickets on a private tour of the museum and tickets to the terror behind the walls exhibit.... looking back its horrible but I will say it was super fun

Jesu Wept, its not mandatory one visits.. Don't like, don't go..

Peep me working as a tour guide in a castle/prison attraction 😶

Can you please talk about the battle mmtlp/Nextbrige is having… the retail investors have been robbed for years and the shorts are in bed with finra this case smacks of fraud.

i feel like i couldnt take a haunted house seriously, man in mask being electrocuted. "he looks like he knows how to party" , dead girl chopped up on bed, "she's had too much"

What?!?!? Who cares. They legit have museums of cotton fields for elementary students. Its not like they are glorifying prisons

@charlesgale4257

Жыл бұрын

It's good they are using the building if it wasn't for them they would probably tear down the old prison.

@an2x453

Жыл бұрын

@@charlesgale4257 that’s what they should do !

People are becoming more sensitive to stupid stuff 😒

I like to think the police I know…are like these guys with the podcast. These guys sound real, I hope they’re this authentic at all times. In the military, we used the code phrase “you have a phone call.” We all knew that meant stop what your about to do…it’s not hard!

@PaulSandersonYup

Жыл бұрын

They're still full of it, "9 out of 10 times a body cam would catch it" yeah right lmao

@SurfLife4me

Жыл бұрын

@@PaulSandersonYup there is reason to be optimistic. It’s not like it was when I grew up…so hopefully it will keep improving. It’s not close to fixed, by any means!

@PaulSandersonYup

Жыл бұрын

@@SurfLife4me I don't see ANY reason to be optimistic, police killings hit an ALL-TIME HIGH in 2022. Stop falling for copaganda.

@PaulSandersonYup

Жыл бұрын

​@@SurfLife4me dang I wish it was like it was when you grew up....

@SilverbackChroniclesPodcast

Жыл бұрын

We are. We are from NY. We grew with a different understanding of how to treat people. Listen to the show. We call BS, but we also give you a different perspective.

Comparing a prison to a concentration camp is simply insulting

@ShannonLH1108

Жыл бұрын

I made the same comparison in a comment, and I do agree it's not the best comparison at all. I think the point is using a grim, violent location as a museum vs an entertainment center.

its kinda the same grim the obsession with making black women led slavery movies

I didn’t watch the video but just from the title I know it’s gonna be some dumb ish

@charlesgale4257

Жыл бұрын

Its okay the title is stupid though.

@ZivineYT

Жыл бұрын

You like my little pony, you can’t speak on things being dumb

Sadism. It's a thing.

this was absolutely brilliant. every segment really hooked me, but I particularly loved hearing that lady explain her story. keep it up guys.

This is a stupid topic, but understand why they made it

This is gross

You people act like all the people in prison have done nothing wrong

OMG!!!!! this industry is sooooo bad...... I am utterly entertained by that fact.....

Botox has to be banned

Black mirror episode

Let people enjoy things

@ZivineYT

Жыл бұрын

Your profile picture says it all

Same weirdos afraid of real prisoners and real prison🤡s

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First 👀

@DjangoAli

Жыл бұрын

Whats you cash app? I feel as if you deserve the world

Wow, that’s a lot of people off and then make money off of making videos about them. Capitalism is truly truly cruel.

so now they wanna force you to go to hollofcaustmuseums ?

Aids

So edgy, vice Next is going to be the story of the unfair wages that Paraplegic transexuals prostitutes of the Australian opal mines.

@alexanderargead5430

Жыл бұрын

Pandering to perpetual victim hood is the VICE demographic as well as other Media organizations. They subtly imply inferiority of whole groups of people because it depicts an implicit weakness in a human being that stifles their progress in this adopted mindset. It's a neurosis that is rampant in society.

Who the F has an attraction to prison museums? Ya all have a ton of better stories to be covering.

@pasta-and-heroin

Жыл бұрын

Watch the video champ

What is the host name? anyone know what he did to get 26 year in jail.

@birdflipper

Жыл бұрын

His name is Lawrence Bartley and he did 26 years for a murder he did not commit, even though the actual killer confessed. It's easy to get into prison, almost impossible to get out.

@User_yhvz

Жыл бұрын

@@birdflipper “I first met Lawrence Bartley three years ago, inside Sing Sing Correctional Facility. He'd been behind bars for 24 years, after shooting his gun inside a crowded movie theater on Christmas night in 1990 and killing a 15-year-old bystander named Tremain Hall. Lawrence was 17 at the time. Lawrence was sentenced to 27 to 30 years to life in prison for his crime, with the possibility of parole. This August, Lawrence will face the parole board for the first time. So we're sharing his story again” Straight from a news source that supports his release.

@User_yhvz

Жыл бұрын

@@birdflipperDo not sit here and say lies. Was his sentence a little too long? Yes. But he 110% killed someone out of recklessness and anger. He was a danger to society in their eyes. Was pretty rare back then for someone to walk into a place and start shooting. These days he would serve about 10 years if only one person was killed

Vice loooooves to get butthurt over anything that's a good time. (Except drugs)

Yea I don’t get this. My step dad was in prison my whole child hood and we use to visit him at Rikers and upstate NY. This must be for people who never had family or a friend that went to jail for a long time. It’s not something I would like to visit and make fun of nevertheless want to visit like a museum. I think most people get that prison isn’t a place you want to go. Let’s try to stay out of prison people. Make better decisions that won’t affect your future or family.

How does VICE manage to release a fantastic video about a salt lake one day, then follow it up with dribbling tripe the next?

Giving fetuses the same rights as the mothers who carry them. Duh!

I will never understand someone who goes to these places….

There are good people in prison. However, the vast majority are the scum of the earth and deserve little more than a quick end.

@real1cytv

Жыл бұрын

You're saying that from 2.4 Million people incarcerated currently (or 505/100,000), most are scum? And if so, why is that only the case in America? Other contries don't have incarceration rates nearly as high

@JH-kk2it

Жыл бұрын

In the USA a huge chunk of people are in prison for non violent drug related crimes. I don't think any of them deserve to die and most probably do not deserve to even be in prison.

@joeb134

Жыл бұрын

It's crazy what people who have never been to prison think

@lmccampbell

Жыл бұрын

@joeb134 wasn't in prison, but I have served time. Rapists, murderers, armed robberies, and the like don't deserve anything. Nonviolent drug offenders and petty criminals are the good people I was referring to.

@joeb134

Жыл бұрын

@@lmccampbell nonviolent offenders make up more than half of the prison population. A decent portion of armed robbers and murderers are good people who have done bad things. Some of the best people I have met in prison were murders. Some of the worst people I have met were law abiding citizens.

This is a big nothing burger

I like how these videos only appeal to the minority of the population who commits crime. Really nobody else.

As a former corrections officer and deputy sheriff who dealt with hundreds of inmates and weekend work-release. I don’t have a single thing to say. You brought it on yourselves. Get over it and move on.

@LanaDelGaydio

Жыл бұрын

And the thousands of innocent people wrongly convicted?

@themeanhornet1070

Жыл бұрын

@@LanaDelGaydio I didn’t see any.

@ZivineYT

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for being a showcase on why we need police reform. You’re clearly racist according to your other video comments.

@ZivineYT

Жыл бұрын

@@themeanhornet1070 You didn’t see anything because you’re not a prosecutor. You’re an uneducated that’s why you work for corrections 😂

@reillyd.4753

Жыл бұрын

@@themeanhornet1070 Thanks for your anecdote lets throw that data away now