Honestly one if not the BEST review for the 450 MT, and I can guarantee I've watched almost all the videos out there😂. I pre-ordered mine too, it's going to be my first bike!

@juanicofernandez

Ай бұрын

Thank you sir 🙌🏻

@MultiTwenty4seven

Ай бұрын

Mo too brother. Waiting for my first bike the MT 450.

@xkorpy3

Ай бұрын

​@@MultiTwenty4seven Why did you choose this bike? For me, it's an all in one bike to try different riding scenarios, many features for the price and also the high second hand bike prices. I'm from Spain, and the dealership informed me that my bike should arrive around the end of May or June :_D

@MultiTwenty4seven

Ай бұрын

@@xkorpy3 absolutely the same thing. It looks like a good all rounder. Also the price is really good 5600€. I'm from Bulgaria btw... And the warranty is 5 years here. I pre ordered mine in Sofia Moto Expo 2 weeks ago. Waiting is till June as well.

@xkorpy3

Ай бұрын

In Spain it's 5990€ and dealerships are still short on info like warranty and extras😅

You have delivered a really excellent review. Thanks. I'm so glad you mentioned the on-road capabilities. The fact is, I think, that an average person looking for an 'Adventure Tourer' will spend a lot (if not most) of their time on tarmac and well-formed gravel, as well as main roads getting to places. Not to mention commuting etc. (I'm in Australia) The CFMoto website describes the 450MT as “versatile adventure touring motorcycle”. So it is not really a rally bike. I think it is so important for safety that an AV bike is capable and reliable when around road traffic. Spilling the bike amongst traffic, or having a collision is the biggest hazard for riders. I need to know 'Is it too Twitchy?' on twisties. I'm in Australia where there are long distances on tarmac between destinations. I'm so glad you also talked about what the bike is like getting around on real world obstacles that a rider might come across when out exploring. There are so many videos of thrill seeking and hard bashing on technical stuff by KZreadrs. (Look at me Mum, look at me.) For those who want to 'rip up the landscape' there are plenty of Enduros, Cross-Sport and Rally bikes. Also, thanks for discussing the seat comfort. That is really important. I am a mature returning rider looking for an all-purpose bike that's not heavy. A 450 twin seems like the sweet spot. I've subscribed. I hope one day you can find a way to assess and compare the road capabilities of dual purpose bikes for us 'normal' riders who want to explore. Best wishes and safe riding.

@juanicofernandez

13 күн бұрын

Appreciate the kind words brother 🙌🏻

I can't wait for mine to arrive. Great review

I’m impressed, good for the Chinese, massive potential in the future. I did live there for 8 years and I was always impressed by their keenness to improve, great review thanks

@wilvpatrocinio322

Ай бұрын

KTM transfer technology CFT

Given it's an adventure bike, I'm surprised no-one has actually asked CF Moto what the alternator output is. Pretty useful to know for running heated gear, and running accessories.

@MotoSly

Ай бұрын

it's 2024. i don't think you really have to sweat about it.

Like your review.

Great video sir, how is the fuel mapping on the bike?.. better than the 800MT I am hoping... :)

Been to the recent Makina Motoshow 2024 at SMX and have tried saddling both bikes. The new Hima is very Top Heavy compared to the MT450 and I have observed this with others who have tried saddling the bikes as well. Hima is definitely for more experienced adv riders no doubt and right out of the box, would perform better of the two in real life conditions as it feels more sturdy and solidly built.

@offroadnomad925

Ай бұрын

Agree, and spec wise and price wise this 450mt is a no brainer.

@MrTmax74

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the info. Which one had higher handlebars? Or rather, which one would fit taller people better, not including the stock seat height

Nice brother!

Yes It's 6kg lighter than Himalayan, but need to consider Himalayan come with fuel tank protections and Central stand.

@juanicofernandez

Ай бұрын

This has twin cylinders, fully adjustable front, rear suspension :)

@kaotic2007

Ай бұрын

@@juanicofernandez sure. I am not saying it's better or worst. Just saying about the weight. If you add protection and central stand probably it will weight the same or more

@defylifeadventure

Ай бұрын

From the reviews and overviews so far, the Himalayan seems like the better bike for slower speed road work and off road riding. So far re the 450MT I've heard som reviews talking about harsh suspension, poor brake feel, jerky throttle. All things that have been praised on the Himalayan. You do get a lot more for your money with CF Motos. An extra cylinder for one, but more adjustable suspension, folding gear lever, adjustable levers, USBC output, and better dash. So it's a bit 6 of one and half a dozen of another.

@kaotic2007

Ай бұрын

@@defylifeadventure yes i read a lot of reviews, and like you said RE seem an easy and well balanced bike with really confortable suspension. Would be nice to understand if CFmoto suspension can be adjusted to really good confortable performance, i think that tyres on cfmoto are really not top quality ones, but 140/70 doesn't offer a lot of choice. I in my country RE is 1500 euro cheaper but i like the cfmoto much more, i am really trying hard to find some more positive aspects :D

@paulkusyk8254

Ай бұрын

​@@kaotic2007 always you can put 140/80 tire more common on market

What are you waiting for? I already pre-ordered mine! :)

@AltitudeAerials

Ай бұрын

Paid in full in the makina show last friday, can't wait for tomorrow to pick it up! Hopefully cf has the low fender option for purchase soon

@aldrinmarquez7136

Ай бұрын

Pre-ordered since march after the global launch, my dealer said shipment was moved to May but no exact date was given, quite the wait now 😂.

@user-ry5kv8sp9c

Ай бұрын

Оформил предзаказ,

@podunkman2709

Ай бұрын

This is china made product

Nice! I wonder how this would compare directly with the Kove 450 Rally. 2 incredible Chinese entries into the Unicorn ADV segment. Keep it up

@NoRoads2AllRoads

Ай бұрын

They are worlds apart. They're competent different

@theosager8087

Ай бұрын

It appears the kove 450 rally would be the better of the two. But to your point, I agree that is a great comparison and I would love to see someone review the two side by side

@bulthaosen1169

27 күн бұрын

One is an Enduro.

@user-xn5nx9xv7o

26 күн бұрын

kove best one

I think you should ride both the RE and CF moto 450 back to back.

@MrTmax74

Ай бұрын

Agreed, no one that I know of has done a real-world back-to-back comparison

Brilliant ❤

I bought the NX500 . But didn’t know about this CFmoto, I probably would have chosen the CF in hindsight. It is really an amazing bike for that price. Still happy with my honda tho

@juanicofernandez

Ай бұрын

Can’t go wrong with a honda

Just Wow ♥️ launch date for India??

REs have proven reliability. I will wait to see you or anyone do a long term review. On paper CF is better. BTW, I watched on YT where the Indians convert the tires to tubeless for $15. The tires come tubeless compatible. Twin cyclinder on a 450 is the game changer.

This vs Honda NX500 would also be interesting.

@podunkman2709

Ай бұрын

Had oportunity to ride NX recently. This rather comfortable city bike. I would never tell it could handle offroad rides.

the largest fuel capacity in the class is the Rieju aventura 500 - that has enough capacity to do 1000km, it is also a supremely well specced machine - heavier than the 450 mt of course

I have no question with the specs of this bike because I really like it since I saw it launched in Europe, but the future problem is that the availability of service centers in the provinces and availability of its spare parts. When I asked the sellers of the CF regarding the service centers available, they can't give me the best answer.

just a heads up too in case no one knew as i also just found this out, CFMoto has also partnered with Yamaha

@juanicofernandez

Ай бұрын

yup! i mentioned that in this video :)

What really concern me about these Chinese bikes is the fact that they push bikes into the market and then they disappear and the poor new owners sit with a product that's gone off the market, battle to get spares and can't sell because no one wants to by it for the above reasons. About 2 years ago, some Chinese Dakar rider came up with a similar bike and threaten to put Honda and KTM out of business. Never heard of that bike again.

@klloo5689

6 күн бұрын

Check this Giga factory and the one in Mexico out. They have collaborations with KTM and Yamaha and they've been making quad bikes for a very long time. m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/iaaElc2wp8y4Zc4.html&pp=ygUOY2Ztb3RvIGZhY3Rvcnk%3D

I own a Versys x300, with about 90.000 km, i had never done a thorough wash to the rear shock, thing is, the rear shock was getting stuck down low, i thought it was done, i was about to replace it but i wanted to check it out, i asked my nephew for help and we took it apart, the spring was full of dry mud, so i scraped it and washed it with kerosene, we put it back just to stand on the foot pegs and well, the bike did bounce back up as normal after that. After all of this, my point is, the CFMoto 450MT comes with adjustable front and rear suspension, and they're great quality too, KYB suspension is quite a greta suspension, so they're putting expensive parts on this bike, the suspension, the tubeless spoked rims, the switchable ABS with perpetual front ABS, those are features that cost quite a bit of money all together, and this bike is barely about 1.000 USD more expensive than the Versys x300 in my country, in fact, Honda just released the Honda Saharah 300, which is a dressed up XRE 300, single cyl, no windshield, 18/21 rims, for almost 9.000 USD in Costa Rica, the Versys x300 is 8.600 USD, less expensive than a shitty single cyl! And this bike will be just shy off 10.000 USD here too, this is too much bike for the money, and i still feel they should have priced it a bit lower, because their 700cc bikes cost 9.000$ and 10.000$, same as this 450. But again! A good quality, adjustable rear shock is about 800$ or more!

@theosager8087

Ай бұрын

CF Moto 450 is priced at $6,500 in the US not 10K

Water wading up to how many cm height?

I knew CFMOTO will have a follow-up for that heavy 400MT.

@zakhey

Ай бұрын

There's a 400MT? I'm only aware of the 650, 700 and 800 MT's 😮

@willyd-adv

Ай бұрын

​@@zakheythis video is about the 450, so not sure how you didn't know it didn't exits when you are commenting on a video about it

@zakhey

Ай бұрын

@@willyd-adv not sure if you know how to read, but I was specifically asking about the "400MT" which martskeebstudio commented. Obviously I know this video is about the 450MT, but since mart mentioned 400MT, there's no model of it in the MT line unlike the 400GT/650GT. 🙄🙄

im confused, is this offroad bike or adventure bike?

You did not appear to compare how it rides, how it brakes, the throttle response, it's weight/feel, against the Himalayan 450. I know you attended this all expenses paid junket by CF Moto but we really want you to be up-front and honest on the comparison as a rider riding the bikes, not just the specs of what's on paper.

The age of dissing Chinese motorcycles is over. Anyone referring to Chinese manufacture as being inferior does not know much about manufacturing production. China is the heart of world manufacture, that's what they do, so they have all the tech and knowledge and after all lots of European and Japanese companies use them to manufacture their products. I personally buy their machine tools for my business and have used their laser cutting machines for about ten years. Those machines work reliably with little maintenance or servicing. There's nothing at all inferior to Chinese products unless their products are built to a price point in which case don't blame them, blame their Western distributors. I saw this IBEX in a dealership in Greece and the quality looks spot on. If it was a KTM badged bike it would be totally convincing. Its only the older generation that hang on to the cliche of 'Chinese rubbish' . These bikes will sell like hot cakes and the price point will allow a new generation to enjoy the joy of 'offroad' motorcycling. Well done on the professional and thorough bike review.

@juanicofernandez

9 сағат бұрын

At the rate their going they're going to definately dominate that motoring market

Just wondering, why need Cruise Ctrl on an adv bike? Like... Oh I'm off-road, I only want to go 60kph for a relaxed ride,,, off-road... Hihi!

@juanicofernandez

Ай бұрын

Best of both worlds

@MrTmax74

Ай бұрын

Most adventure bike riders spend the majority of their miles on tarmac. And it's often their only bike. And here in the US having cruise control for our long and fast freeways is a godsend. It's a game changer.

You sound like a sales person bro, chill out. A good review always is a balanced one. No bike is perfect so listing the good and the bad is part of a fair and credible review. Cheers

@ankn01

Ай бұрын

Bro even said in comments I have pre ordered it , why u waiting.😅

@avirupbanerjee3874

Ай бұрын

Well, it's quite biased review.. it felt to me like he was a part of the R&D team for this bike😅. Seems like he was well paid..

@bullsharkdb

Ай бұрын

@@ankn01 A fair review...If you know that isnt fair would you give a like or dislike?

@juanicofernandez

Ай бұрын

Biased yes but definitely an honest review. I did mention that there are some minor things that I dislike or wish it had. Also, I too mentioned towards the end of the video that i had a hard time finding things I disliked about this bike.

@bullsharkdb

Ай бұрын

@@juanicofernandez sure 1+1=11

How many liters of gasoline does it burn per 100 km?

@jordanpangilinan509

Ай бұрын

only 22kmpl

@_UserUser_

Ай бұрын

Around 4.5l/100

@podunkman2709

Ай бұрын

​@@_UserUser_So like way bigger enines.

450MT sells for $4,360 in China🥺🥺

KTM with Chinese wisdom, 😊

I REALLY whish HONDA would look at something like this and dont let us, the customers ask for something what should be absolutely NORMAL nowadays. An USB charging port is not RocketScience and costs nothing, so WHY i have to install some aftermarket stuff @HONDA???? Looks like a nice bike and i am going to sell my CB500X here in Thailand for it.

For Philippine terrain, it's better to have a lighter 400cc adv bike. No brainer.

This or the KTM 390 Adventure?

@juanicofernandez

5 күн бұрын

no contest

@frs7104

5 күн бұрын

@@juanicofernandez In favour of the CFMoto?

Why japaneses would never build a bike like that ?

@juanicofernandez

Ай бұрын

Because if they really wanted tol, then it should’ve been already out ages ago

Wait for the 2025 , and you will get ride by wire , cruise control, quick shifter the whole nine.

There is a way to make this bike perfect and shut the mouths of every bigger YT reviewer. Leave the bike the same, but put Husqvarna branding and a badge in it, increase the price 1.200 USD and boom!! All motorcycle digital magazine reviewers will love it and put it as "The unicorn that the rest of the market refuses to make". After all, besides the CF Moto letters, it looks like a Husqvarna in its green and grey color scheme.

@andyw237

Ай бұрын

They are also the same exact people who worship street-only bikes that are re-badged as "adventure bikes" based on the brand name.

Where is the honda nx500 in this argument,!??

@podunkman2709

Ай бұрын

NX is great bike but typical onroad, for small guys.

@davidmallia628

Ай бұрын

@@podunkman2709 Is not the CFmoto 450MT for small guys, too!?? But it not about big, or small, guys, as both bikes will accommodate most people. It is about how they compete in performance, capability, quality, and, ultimately, price.

Is it Japanese or super high quality Chinese 😂😂😂

The himalayan is not "better" than the japanese alternatives...it is just cheaper. Don't confuse the two.

As an Indian i like this cf450 more than overrated re himalayan

@nastyjayin

Ай бұрын

Tatte chaat liye to wapis aaja India. 😂😂

The Himalayan will last a decade and beyond but CFMoto is known for low quality bikes as is with Chinese craftsmanship and cunning marketing gimmicks. I’d go with the Himalayan any day. In India, nobody buys CFMotos.

@110mano

Ай бұрын

that is your heart speaking not mind nor knowledge

@evosklien6184

Ай бұрын

indian only buy redmi, vivo & oppo

@prodiptoroychowdhury2313

Ай бұрын

Interesting opinion. As consumers we want the best product which will last a long time, so I share your concern! Very much a valid concern as well. However I invite you to consider: people said the exact same thing about the royal Enfield. And before recently they were right. The bikes were cheaply made and overall bad motorcycles. However recently they have proven themselves with considerable change. Why not CFmoto?

@katasiapa7645

14 күн бұрын

Sorry, but quality of CFmoto 450 is better than RE himalayan 450

@arnoldschwarzenigga2268

10 күн бұрын

​@@katasiapa7645 Total cap dude 😂

This bike is too heavy for a 450 ccm. 175kg dry weight + 17,5 liter fuel.

@defylifeadventure

Ай бұрын

Perhaps you'd prefer the Kove 800 given the better power to weight ratio.

450cc is siply not enough - this bike will be terribly weak. 500cc (real one not 470) would be an option. Beside of that this is china construction - I do not trust quality.

Low quality Chinese bikes go bad in the 3rd year no matter the maintenance! All CFMoto bikes have a ton of quality issues. Beware!

@dencelosorio3079

Ай бұрын

Really?

There is a spare parts problem for CF Moto in Türkiye

Amerikano ka ba? Why tagalog kung dito ka naman s pilipinas. Ang hangin.

@juanicofernandez

Ай бұрын

Mainet po ngayon sa manila

@ganzmontejo4176

Ай бұрын

Bakit? Di pwde? Kung tagalog lang ede peeenoise lang makaka intindi

@aldrinmarquez7136

Ай бұрын

@amira naka intindi ka naman grabeh 😂, kinder palang english na halos lahat subjects natin. At least kung english ang video niya maintindihan nang iba at di na need nang subtitle. Masyado kang OA dagdag kalang sa init nang panahon 😂.

@keyzeyy1958

Ай бұрын

bakit? nahihirapan ka ata mag english? nasapawan ka lang kaya ayaw mo eh. manahimik ka kung wala kang masabing constructive and relevant.

I just have Chinese trust issues, sooooo, nah.

The best video and şharp pictures and again more information ı have ever seen.....Thanks God some one tolks about it a top speed to Cf 450 mt... ..🐈🐶🦝🦔👏👏👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️ Thank you. dude...