Looking forward to seeing CFMoto's progress over the next few years. We laughed at the Japanese and then the Koreans. Once the IC engine is put to bed I'm guessing 90% of bikes will be of Chinese origin. The next generation of riders will see bikes like IPhones and have little regard for a manufacturer's history or reputation

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. Great points.

@danstevens2204

2 жыл бұрын

My next generation won’t I guarantee it

Lots of nice extras on there for the price. Thanks Dave.

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

2 жыл бұрын

No problem 👍

Great video mate. Seriously thinking about getting one of these because $10k cheaper than other similarly optioned bikes is no joke. It's not $40k in the $50k bracket, it's $15k in the $25k bracket. Holy sheet! All bikes have parts from across the globe (brakes, wheels, suspension etc) and with a KTM engine and even their designers the fact it's "Chinese made" implies nothing negative unless you've watched too much internet rubbish and fear the CCP. Fuel mapping is now sorted and I've survived 40 years on bikes without traction control and other fluff, although the top spec version has that plus all the radar system and with luggage is STILL under $20k. There's very little to say against this bike if you don't plan to get off road into the really rough stuff.

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for your thoughts.

Good quick review Dave, thank you..

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Everyone keeps saying it's thousands cheaper than any other midrange adventure bike. It's literally 500 dollars more than the list price for a 650 V-Strom. (and aside from the current supply chain issues, they can be had for much less, my wire wheeled one was 11,490 ride away) If it really was thousands cheaper, then maybe it might be worth taking a bath on the resale loss, but it just isn't.

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

2 жыл бұрын

Good call.

@simpletonballsack

11 ай бұрын

It's literally MANY thousands of dollars cheaper than any similarly optioned bike in the same category, which the DL650 definitely isn't.

@gasdive

11 ай бұрын

@@simpletonballsack will there's a lot of personal preference there, but to me, they're both physically large mid capacity soft roaders with similar power and similar suspension travel. The CFMoto has cruise control which is nice, but that's about it. The Suzuki is a little lighter with a bit more range, the CFMoto has a little more power, but bad fuel mapping. Both are fast enough to send you to jail on the road, and hospital on the dirt. The Suzuki has a reputation for the motor lasting several hundred thousand km. The KTM very much has the opposite reputation, but we don't know yet if the Chinese can improve on the poor reputation of the Austrians as far as motor building goes. (I doubt it, but who knows). The Chinese bike is more expensive, but has dismal resale value. They're practically worthless second hand. The Suzuki holds its value which is good if you turn over bikes regularly, but bad if you're looking for a second hand one. Really there's not much in it on paper, but if you're the type who buys and keeps for decades, the CFMoto doesn't have the longevity to appeal, and if you're the type who turns over bikes after a year, then the depreciation will be eye watering. So I can't see who this bike would suit when there's the DL in the shop next door.

@simpletonballsack

11 ай бұрын

@@gasdive The DL has always been a good deal, but curious as to the price of a DL with: TFT touch screen Apple CarPlay Satnav Heated seats Heated grips Centre stand Adjustable screen Quickshifter Electronic rider modes Fog lights Adjustable screen Tyre pressure monitor Radial brakes crash bars and as you've selectively noted: cruise control, since these are standard on the 800MT. Remove all that stuff and yeah, I might agree you have a bit of a point. Still, despite your assertion of similar power, 69hp vs 95hp alone places these two machines in different classes.

@gasdive

11 ай бұрын

@@simpletonballsack what is this "equipment" that you speak of that's more important than an engine that you can depend on?

春风 -> ChunFeng -> CF means spring breeze. Enjoy.

@HulkHoden66

5 ай бұрын

I do😂

Sounds like you had it in 'safe mode.' 😊

No idea when they will hit the US... But I have already reached out to the local CFMoto dealer with an inquiry. If they have any info I will be dropping a deposit for the first one in.

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

2 жыл бұрын

You sound keen.

@bonesworld7178

2 жыл бұрын

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV all about value for money these days... The stealerships in this country are making what little inventory that is available hard to buy.. with all the freight and set up and doc fees we are paying 2-3k over MSRP. Not me. It stinks because there are so many great promoters like yourself of all this great iron. It may be nice to buy from a manufacturer that wants and needs the business

I'm really interested in one of these as a second bike for longer trips and overnighters. 3 year factory warranty and value prop. are hard to overlook.

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

2 жыл бұрын

I think it would be good for most Australian conditions.

@TheSar

2 жыл бұрын

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Thanks for the note. Mainly looking for a touring machine 80% road and light gravel offroad 20% - I reckon this would fit the role well.

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSar I agree.

You can see how popular the BMW GS line is in China. I rode a short GS tour there in 2013, they know what is good ha. Holy cow it’s a great copy.

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

2 жыл бұрын

Copy of a what?

Thanks Dave, Nice review. I just received mine and have done 1000kms on paved and Dirt roads on the original tyre and love how it handles the dirt, More grip from standard tyres than I expected. Do you know where the front crash bars came from?

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

2 жыл бұрын

With the bike supplied.

@Thomas-wk5ll

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Wayne Spencer . I am seriously looking at the mt 800 as well Are yoy happy with the drive modes? What kind of dirt where you riding on, loose sandy, corrugated etc I have to say by looking at the specs and the quality of the components almost too good to be true. How do you find the power delivery? Have they fixed the fuel mapping I have heard a few reviewers mention that when you punch the throttl nothing, then all of a sudden everything is happens I was looking at buying the new klr 650 and have spent almost a year researching Now I'm not so sure Safe riding

@WayneSpencer

2 жыл бұрын

@@Thomas-wk5ll The bike is good, I ha ent had a issue with fuel mapping other say they have, the throttle response is touchy but you get used to it and it is fine, I find the power good right through, it really come o strong at 7000. It is heavy so can be a handful in soft sand

Hope you can re visit one of these bikes with some age and kms

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

Жыл бұрын

Not really keen

@droflivelife

Жыл бұрын

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV that bad ha!

I hope you can test this bike on dirt too 👌👌

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

2 жыл бұрын

not sure let's see how we go

How's a more in depth review please...off road too please...

We can only get the small bikes in the US so far. I would have liked to try this before I bought my used BMW1200GSA

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

2 жыл бұрын

I think you've done all right :)

What do you think it could break un the dirt compared for instance with a tiger 800?

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

Жыл бұрын

Not sure.

Would like to have seen you extend the trip down McCarrs Creek road to test it over all those nasty speed bumps.

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

2 жыл бұрын

It was p*ssing down rain by that stage and I'd had enough :)

Wonderful review. Please let us know how u go with ofroad. So I can change my tyre and head to bush

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure that is going to happen. There are a heap of bikes to be tested this year.

Kind of in the region of the Benelli TRK 502 X but with the extra cc.

@vageliskoios1062

2 жыл бұрын

nope..much more ecuiped.

Not a bad looking or performing bike. 👍

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

2 жыл бұрын

It does what the label says

Bike's fit and finish aims towards the high-end segment of 20k+ euros/dollars etc. Ofc it doesn't have all the electronics other bikes might have but it's still a very good deal for the money, not to say the best atm. In the link you have a pretty brutal off-road testing and the bike can handle it quite well. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qJV13M2mZrDSY6w.html Other than that cheers for the objective review! ;)

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

2 жыл бұрын

Fair enough!

The skepticism and negative tones in your review were the most notable aspects. One point i am curious about , does the CF Moto use a KTM engine or does the KTM use a CF Moto? I think you will fine the latter.

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

2 жыл бұрын

Hmm that's an interesting interpretation. Listen to the words. Now that would be a good place to start.

Actually Dave I paid $14490 ride away for the touring.

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

2 жыл бұрын

Excllent.

@johnnyhan7976

2 жыл бұрын

I paid $13,990 for mine.

@simpletonballsack

11 ай бұрын

@@johnnyhan7976 With the luggage set?

A upgrade for rear strut alone would be $900.00 to $1000,00 pretty quickly. add the front and now your talking $4000.00 total,

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

Жыл бұрын

Ah suspension don't you love it.

Thanks for the review, but more than anything I'd love to see you ride this bike on the same trails as you did with the klr. Which brings me to my next question, does this bike compare with the klr or does it blow it away on the dirt Thanks

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

2 жыл бұрын

Noted!

Keep left unless overtaking

I wonder how reliable it is over time and how hard it’d be to get replacement parts though

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

2 жыл бұрын

Time will tell.

Come on Dave, review the Himalayan, it is hilarious, but if it runs long enough it will practically go anywhere (vewwwwy vewwwy swowwwy )

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

2 жыл бұрын

one day :)

@Hutchie2112

2 жыл бұрын

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV You won't stop laughing. And there aint no 9 grand suspension going to make it a trail weapon , more a cheery but clumsy mule :) You can have mine, except it's at the dealer (AGAIN!!!!) :) Good job I've some reliable T7 and KTM390 goodness to keep me burning fossil fuels and grinning. All the best from Scotland, and where's the Tenere Tragics !!!!!!

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hutchie2112 Tenere Tragics is imminent about two weeks away. Ballina in the east coast out to Longreach. Rain forecast so going to be a challenge

@rangawal

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree!

Any word on when they might be available in the U.S.?

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry mate, no idea.

@elitecorsair

Жыл бұрын

My dealer said Q1 2023

What tires is that?

You say cheapest... Isn't the BMW 850/750 cheaper at around $11-12k ? Or is there a kangaroo tax that makes those more expensive than this one? And what about the KLR?

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

2 жыл бұрын

Australian currency

So they went for KYB suspension then gave it just on 6 inches of travel. WTF! Makes no sense at all.

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

2 жыл бұрын

Good point

How is it the Chinese have been putting bells and whistles on their bikes for ages, like colour TFT dash, led everything etc etc. And major Japanese manufacturers are still using 70's & 80's indicators, shite led mono dashes, no slipper clutch or quick shifter, crap suspension, horrible seats and ergonomics etc etc The Japanese manufacturers better lift their game.

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

2 жыл бұрын

CF Moto is a company to watch. If they hooked up with a good suspension supplier look out.

@vageliskoios1062

2 жыл бұрын

exactly..the japanese sell their name of reliability but if they still to play the game like this they will loose

What is a mid range adventure bike ? Itchy Boots took a Honda crf 300L rally from South America and is on her way to Alaska . Going by the distance She is traveling would you consider a 300 cc a mid range or long range bike ? I think you would have to put the 300 cc in the long range category now . If that 800cc is only a mid range bike then its a piece of crap . The crf300L Rally is only around 6,000 dollars and its going almost the full length possible of travel on a bike . it gets 70 mpg and has a 3.4 gallon tank that allows you to go farther between fill ups than the klr 650 that has a 6 gallon tank . Watch this video I think you will change you mind of what's a mid range bike is . Smaller and lighter bikes are the new long range bikes . kzread.info/dash/bejne/lIii19GcqtaZpNo.html

@gasdive

2 жыл бұрын

In Australia "midrange" refers to engine size or weight, or both. Not range. There's no hard and fast rules, but it would mean singles over 500 or so. Twins over about 400 and less than about 900. Triples and fours under 800.

@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

2 жыл бұрын

good point gasdive.