I just rode a CF MOTO 450MT (Ibex) press bike 2000 miles across northern Minnesota, Wisconsin and the Upper Peninsula of Michigan and then back home in the U.S., mostly on dirt and gravel. Loved it. Absolutely fantastic bike. I would buy one in a heartbeat.

@derekandleonie5636

13 күн бұрын

Yep.. they're an impressive little package for sure

Nice ride guys, get the 15 tooth and it it feels way nicer on and off road, im loving mine so much the dr650 will be getting sold as well as the tiger 800. The smoothness of the motor is just awesome, and i dont feel hardly near as fatigued after a long day like i would on the dr. Keep up the great vids. Cheers Bazz

Looks like a great little bike. Price is very good.

@derekandleonie5636

2 ай бұрын

It sure is. I took it road riding today and it's still exceeding my expectations

@WagsOutback

2 ай бұрын

@@derekandleonie5636 Don't think I would be allowed to have 3 bikes :-) Up here at Baffle if you ever want to do a run up, plenty room to camp.

@derekandleonie5636

2 ай бұрын

@@WagsOutback sounds great 👍

Great ride and a top review. Thankyou for your thoughts on the MT450. Certainly looks the part and like you said time will tell on how well she ages. I reckon lots of these bikes will be everywhere soon as they are priced very well and great bang for buck. Shes a bit thirsty on the juice at 4.5L per 100 but that may change over time once the motor is properly broken in maybe? Cheers.

@derekandleonie5636

2 ай бұрын

It could definitely get better economy if I lost a few pounds and wasn't chasing the 80hp Aprilia like a lunatic 😂

Good review, thank you. God bless

Good review. Thank you.

I’ve ridden with Darryl and Ken Allan before

"Internet experts". I'm going to use that in my tongue.

Hopfuly you see this what is the diameter of the bar tht you have your phone and GPS connected too on the CFMoto? I pick mine up in Colombia when I get back and I am in US now and want to get a quad lock and have phone horizontal. Kind of ironic 2 of my 3 favorite bikes. If the CFMoto doesnt work out I will either go with Tuareg or Africa Twin. But I am hopeful the CFMoto is the perfect slipper for me!! This way I get to keep my street bike too! Otherwise will have to sell both bike to get the 2 bikes listed above. Great video looks like a really fun trip!

Hey mate, nice videos, and im looking to get the MT as well, they look like a game changer... Any chance of getting a location for the little farm trail, im from Yeppoon and would like to use it to get to calliope, thanks in advance, LP

Good review 👍🏼

@derekandleonie5636

20 күн бұрын

Thanks! 👍

This cfmoto 450 mt actually ! This bike has the engine that was going to be on 490 adventure r.. that ktm desided to avoit the productión

@derekandleonie5636

20 күн бұрын

If that's the case they've made a bad decision... These little twins are amazing

GDay mate - how tall are you and how does the MT distance between seat and pegs feel? you mentioned you have ordered a tall seat. Im 6'2 and my DR650 was too cramped even with tall seat, lowered pegs and risers.

@derekandleonie5636

8 күн бұрын

I'm 6'2 and it's a little cramped but doesn't bother me.. you'll have to ride one and see if you'll be able to live with it 👍

It might seem like comparing apples to oranges but I would be interested in hearing some direct comparison between the CFMOTO and the Aprilia. Specifically the weight and power difference.

@derekandleonie5636

2 ай бұрын

They're similar riding position etc The Aprilia weighs 29kg more according to our scale As for power ... 44hp compared to 80 is fairly noticeable Obviously the CF is more manageable in the tight stuff and the Aprilia runs away on the open roads

@porkshank13

2 ай бұрын

@@derekandleonie5636 Thanks for such a speedy response! Initially I was thinking why wouldn't I deal with the extra few pounds for the big increase and power (again ignoring price, which is a huge deal of course) but that is more of a weight difference than I was expecting. It definitely makes the CFMOTO more tempting.

@slakk5093

21 күн бұрын

@@porkshank13 i wonder if they weighed them with luggage on. Aprilia wet weight is meant to be 204KG vs 450MT at 192KG. 12KG difference. Also could be mods like crash bars, skid plate etc

Hi there...seems like you had a great time in the bush :) how many liters petrol does the little engine need for 100 kilometers in those condition? Greetings!

@derekandleonie5636

2 ай бұрын

I'm getting 4.5 litres per hundred according to the screen

@PetersJourney

2 ай бұрын

@@derekandleonie5636 thank you!

@user-ez9rw5lm5w

Ай бұрын

4.X/100

@PetersJourney

Ай бұрын

@@user-ez9rw5lm5w thx :)

Hi. Good review!. I have a KLR 2014 with the same power and weight than the 450MT. However since the engine of the KLR is 650cc, the KLR goes at less RPM than the 450MT @ the same speed. I wonder if it would be a real upgrade going from the KLR to the 450MT. Cheers.

@derekandleonie5636

2 ай бұрын

KLR is a great bike however I just personally prefer the twin cylinder

@ferkuzuel

Ай бұрын

You will probably get a better mpg on the mt

@CTR_Dan

Ай бұрын

The KLR needs a 6th gear

@joshdoddadbod

Ай бұрын

Once you go to a twin for an adventure bike you tend not to go back to single cylinder.

Which brand are the extensión of the windshield and the Cruise control? The app is what they Call Tbox or is something else? Thanks!!

@derekandleonie5636

26 күн бұрын

@@amb9839 no brand... Just Ebay specials Yes the app is called tbox

Great food thanks for sharing! Any chance of a GPX file I have to see the platypuses ❤

@derekandleonie5636

Ай бұрын

I haven't got a gpx of that area sorry They're in eungella national Park just out of Mackay.. pretty well sign posted and easy to find

Great ride - sounds like your bike is seeing what it's meant to do :D Could you share GPX files of your rides?

@derekandleonie5636

2 ай бұрын

I get tracks from transaustraliatrail.com.au/ This track is called East Coast which goes from Melbourne to Cape York

@TheMisterNebo

2 ай бұрын

@@derekandleonie5636 Thanks! Found it - looks good!

Even if Yamaha did a T450 it would be pretty basic and featureless as not to compete with the T7 as the CRF is kept basic to not compete with the CX. Same with the Transalp it won’t get the features of the Africa twin. With the MT you get everything!

@derekandleonie5636

2 ай бұрын

Yes that's true... What I meant by comparison with a tenere 450 was about build quality being as good as the Japanese

@kevinarmstrong478

2 ай бұрын

@@derekandleonie5636 yeah they really do look well put together and easy to service usually bikes at that price require lots of mods my DR and CRF certainly did. I like the fact there are factory crash bars available the bike has been designed to have crash bars fitted often crash bars look a lot stronger than what they are mounted to! I remember my dad teaching me all about “Jap Crap” in the 70’s and it’s interesting to see it happening again if I harms spent so much on my CRF I would get an MT in a heartbeat.

Curious about that tuareg lightbar setup :o could you tell me something more?

@derekandleonie5636

2 ай бұрын

Check my other videos I've just uploaded a walk around of Daryl's bikes and the way he's set them up

Cfmoto 450 with 2 people on did you try it? Can it handle it well if u tried it?

@derekandleonie5636

20 күн бұрын

No I haven't It would probably be a bit squishy for 2 larger people

I have an Aprilia Tuareg 660 and I'm thinking of changing it for a CFMoto 450...I'm looking for something lighter, is there a real weight difference between them? Thanks.

@derekandleonie5636

2 ай бұрын

The CF is Around 30 kg lighter

@williampeiper292

2 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for your response, on the specs the MT has around 192 kg wet....Tuareg 204....there is so much mistery about this....

@derekandleonie5636

2 ай бұрын

@@williampeiper292 we weighed them both on an industrial scale that Daryl owns and his Aprilia is 218kg and my MT was 189kg

@WaveformV1.0

Ай бұрын

@@derekandleonie5636both full tanks?

@derekandleonie5636

Ай бұрын

@@WaveformV1.0 yes

Is it happy to ride along at 100kph on the roads? Can you compare the road comfort with the aprilia?

@derekandleonie5636

2 ай бұрын

It cruises well at 100 Obviously the Aprilia does it easier with the extra power but the CF is more than capable

@tigerrider6711

2 ай бұрын

@@derekandleonie5636 thank you, seriously considering this bike when it hits our shores , going to try the “less is more” approach. Read a few horror stories about cam wear on the aprilia that is giving me cold feet on that bike.

What phone mount and gps mount do you have?

@derekandleonie5636

Ай бұрын

I'm using RAM mounts The GPS bolts straight to the ram mount base and I glued a phone case to another ram mount. Quad lock also make good options but Ive been using these same mounts for years

Whats the oxford thing?

@derekandleonie5636

Ай бұрын

@@augustbrante8117 heated grips

Would be nice to hear your thoughts on the Trans 650 vs 450mt. Power/weight/top heavy/ perceived torque/ Ergos (distance from seat to pegs) and so on. Cheers

@derekandleonie5636

2 ай бұрын

They're very similar other than the obvious age related differences

@Noastrenght

2 ай бұрын

@@derekandleonie5636 Well alright, did anything stuck out when you jumped on first time?

@derekandleonie5636

2 ай бұрын

How light the clutch was compared to the transalp

Is the 660 twice an mt to justify the price?

@derekandleonie5636

20 күн бұрын

Daryl just sold his 660 and bought a 450 so best guess the answer is no 😂

@droflivelife

20 күн бұрын

@@derekandleonie5636 wow

@droflivelife

19 күн бұрын

@derekandleonie5636 I think in most things it will compete but touring klms you just need that extra hp

Rigatoni e Ravioli in scatola… wowwww che invidiaaaa…. 😂😂😂😂 I’m sorry

How does the power compare to a drz400?

@derekandleonie5636

2 ай бұрын

Feels much smoother and way more civilized

@IAmYourReflection

2 ай бұрын

@@derekandleonie5636 does it feel like it has as much torque?

@derekandleonie5636

2 ай бұрын

@@IAmYourReflection yes... Definitely feels like much more torque

@IAmYourReflection

2 ай бұрын

@@derekandleonie5636 nice good to know! 👍

Is cf moto bigger than Aprilia?

@derekandleonie5636

2 ай бұрын

No

@bobanppvc

2 ай бұрын

@@derekandleonie5636 it looks in video like mt is a lot taller...Im thinking about buying aprilia for traveling around europe/asia...But its double the price of cf moto here...What you think what is better option?

@derekandleonie5636

2 ай бұрын

@@bobanppvc Daryls Aprilia has been lowered to suit him.. the CF is also very low Whilst I really like the Aprilia, I would choose the CF as here in Australia 1 is 23k and the other is 9k You can do a lot of travel with the 14 grand saving

@bobanppvc

2 ай бұрын

Here is aprilia 12k and cf moto 6.5k...

Honda and Yamaha must be shamed.

It’s not CF moto made this bike, the frame, parts, engine, all KTM gene. If you own one KTM, you would understand what I say.

@derekandleonie5636

Ай бұрын

@@hsiaoadam2857 we won't hold that against the CF 😂

@SatansBaby1

Ай бұрын

It is CF moto everything on this, not one part including motor is not from ktm, don't spread misinformation.

I wouldn’t buy a Chinese bike , I would rather get the 450 Himalayan, only reason I say that is not the fact that the Chinese are building better quality bikes now ( and CF MOTO are probably one of the best due to the KTM partnership ) But mind is more political . I have a 300 Rally and a V85tt Moto Guzzi . I live in the Atherton tablelands for the winter 🥶, and Albury/ Wodonga rest of the year - Vic high Country riding gold .

@derekandleonie5636

2 ай бұрын

Fair comment... But have a look around your house and check out how much stuff you have that's made in China

@roadstrom

2 ай бұрын

You better throw out every appliance in the house, and the clothes you're wearing 😂

@alexjohnson3696

2 ай бұрын

After you throw away all your clothes and appliances, I’m afraid your phone is next

@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449

2 ай бұрын

@@derekandleonie5636 done ✅ that all my electrical appliances in the house are NOT Chinese ( with exception of toastie maker is Chinese ) they have been making them in China for around 40 years or more . Not much Chinese clothes, no Chinese boots , motorcycle clothing , So I try and practice what I preach. Yes some stuff is unavoidable ( but if I have an option of non Chinese I will take it .

@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449

2 ай бұрын

@@alexjohnson3696 look at my reply below, if I have a choice of non- Chinese stuff I buy it instead.