My dad owned a 177B ? fixed gear for probably 20 years. I flew with him a lot when I was a young kid. Very good memories in this airplane for me. My dad loved his cardinal!

@aerolife1646

2 жыл бұрын

Nice to hear of your memories with the Cardinal, they are great family planes.

Beautiful birds. The RG is such a delightful airplane to fly and comfortable as well. A great comparison!

@aerolife1646

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment, they are both great planes and fun to fly.

I've been flying a PA28 for the last 30 years but I've always been in love with the 177 Cardinal fixed gear. Now that I've seen your video I'm going to start look to see what there is out there in a Cardinal. Thanks

@chucklemasters6433

10 ай бұрын

don't do it steve they don't even come close to your piper

G,day from Quarantine lockdown Sydney Australia. * Once again best quality planes. * Thankyou for the performance. * Nose cone LEDs? Plane: worldwide dominant. 🌏🇦🇺

@aerolife1646

2 жыл бұрын

Hi again John, thanks for watching another of our videos. We use isolation to fly more. Factory Cardinals did not come with LED lights; they were an upgrade as were many other things in that RG.

Nice video and great job with the comparisons.

@aerolife1646

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment, glad you enjoyed it.

This is a great video , very well produced

Your videos are objectives and punctual; Amazing!

@aerolife1646

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Henrique, appreciate your comment, glad you enjoy our videos.

Thank you. Excellent presentation, as always.

@aerolife1646

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and the comment.

Amazing as always.

@aerolife1646

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Marcus. Appreciate it

The original fixed gear Cardinal had a 150 hp O-320 and a fixed pitch propeller; that was soon changed to a 180 hp with fixed pitch prop. The constant speed prop was added in 1970.

@aerolife1646

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing this info.

@chucklemasters6433

10 ай бұрын

yes they also added retractable gear before they realized it was a hopeless mess and stopped making this POS!

Good stuff & a beautiful paint job on that RG! Flew a Cardinal RG during commercial training for the required complex time and loved the airplane! Everyone at school loved it. It looked incredible & flew superbly. Way different than the 172 I did most of my training in but I had zero issues with the transition. I’ve heard a Cardinal is hard to land & graduate to, but I found it easy and fun. I would rent one in a heartbeat today & would consider owning an RG Cardinal if my heart wasn’t already set firmly on something else (mid 1950s 172 which I’ll put a “Texas Taildragger” tail wheel and 180 hp engine on, my dad’s STCs). It was almost impossible to fly the Cardinal on the weekends because many at school wanted it for their trips to friends & family since it looked so cool. Great basic video about a wonderful airplane!

Another great video,Thank You

@aerolife1646

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment, glad you enjoyed it

nice job, and thanks for your time

@aerolife1646

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and your comment Robert.

I’m looking forward to flying both models

@aerolife1646

2 жыл бұрын

You'll enjoy flying both. They are nice planes to fly.

I love the cardinal. Great video.

@aerolife1646

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching, Cardinals have always been one of my favorites.

I'm more of a fixed gear guy. OK, it looks like the plane has legs that stick out while in flight but at least there's no extra mechanism involved in extending and retracting the wheels, and mechanical simplicity is always a plus in my book, even if it does come at a slight cost of aerodynamics.

@aerolife1646

13 күн бұрын

There are definitely pros and cons on both. Fixed gears compromise some on performance to gain simplicity and maintenance cost. The RG gives you better performance for higher maintenance costs and more complexity. Thanks for commenting and watching.

Excellent thanks

@aerolife1646

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

GJ 👍Thanks for uploading from Tokyo🤓

@aerolife1646

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and commenting also

I’m extremely excited you are doing this comparison between these two different types of aircraft and are you looking to do this on others you will have on the next video?

@aerolife1646

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Bernard, we definitely hope to do more comparisons in the future.

@daszieher

2 жыл бұрын

@@aerolife1646 would you also dare include a conclusion (based on a set of assumptions) or might that seem too conflictive?

@chucklemasters6433

10 ай бұрын

takes very little to excite you bernard.

Thanks, do You have an idea what the performance difference is with the IO 390 engine installed please?

Great comparison! Are you from Eastern Europe?

@aerolife1646

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I’m from the USA

I like to buying one.

Very nice comparaison. Please consider to do the same between a C182 fixed and a C182RG (R182). Thanks in advance

@aerolife1646

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment. I will try to do that if I get both at the same time one day.

@saraboren7480

Жыл бұрын

@@aerolife1646 depending on where you are I own a 182rg I can bring over. Im in east TN for reference.

The price are different also on both of them and thank you

@chrisberardi2304

4 ай бұрын

Another factor is insurance with the RG being higher for most owners.

I see that you have a cuff for the exhaust on the RG. Did you find much of an increase in air speed?

@aerolife1646

2 жыл бұрын

It was installed before we purchased so cannot speak to actual experience.

Does either airplane have a Powerflow exhaust? How much of performance improvement would a Powerflow make for these birds over Cessna published numbers? Thank you.

@aerolife1646

2 жыл бұрын

I just published a video of a Cardinal fixed gear with powerflow exhaust. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZoJ-0s1wirK3iLQ.html

Was the fixed gear 177 ever available with the 200hp engine?

Why do the 70-74 Cardinal 177rg specs say 122knots 75% and the 74 up say 143knots 75% ? I can not find a reason for this. Same engine so does anyone know. I get the fixed to RG has that price difference, but when shopping for a 177RG I find so many early years with cruse speed of 122Kn I thought all Cardinal RG were 148knots cruise

A slighly slower fuel burn isn't really an advantage if it also needs to fly for longer to reach the same destination.

@aerolife1646

2 жыл бұрын

You're right, a complex airplane has performance advantages over a fixed gear. From my experience, most of these planes are not used for time sensitive missions.

@daszieher

2 жыл бұрын

@@aerolife1646 the question, however, remains. Will the nominally lower fuel burn of the FG be cancelled out by its longer time aloft, i.e. will it actually burn more on the same mission?

Am I the ONLY one that would like a T-lever throttle quadrant in a Cessna? Anyhow, I would love an RG, just not the additional cost for insurance/maintenance. That being said, on the hunt for a 180-hp, fixed gear Cardinal. Maybe add the power-flow exhaust for added power/safety.

I love both these planes and have time in both. It has to be the nicest flying Cessna made that got a very bad reputation early on. Avoid landing on nose wheel, I always exaggerate the flare so you land on the mains only. The stabilator and effective ailerons make this a two finger flyer and does not have the heavy control forces the 182RG has. With the wing further back, no wing struts and a large door and window give the best visibility of any high wing Cessna. The 180 HP fixed gear is much better than the original 150HP and there is an STC to put the 200HP in the fixed gear. If you ever get the opportunity to fly one don't pass it up.

@aerolife1646

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the detailed comment; you are right - if the chance comes to fly a Cardinal I would always take it.

@chucklemasters6433

10 ай бұрын

ever wonder why all airplanes have issues with the third wheel? i didn't think so! doesn't matter which end the third wheel is on most pilots abuse the hell out of them! that's because they don't know how to control an aircraft with precision during the landing phase period!

Does the RG have the ability to dump fuel in an emergency?

@aerolife1646

Жыл бұрын

Thankfully have never had an emergency in the Cardinal or the RG. I do not believe that is an option for any of the similar planes.

@BigMike10960

Жыл бұрын

@@aerolife1646 ok, I was wondering what the fuel switch at the bottom does

The Insurance rates are much, much higher for the RG version! So much so that many owners "Wish" they could convert their plane back to Fixed Gear!!!

@aerolife1646

2 жыл бұрын

You are correct about insurance rates, they are usually higher for an RG comparing to a fixed gear. But is largely based on pilot experience and time in type also. To advance as a pilot requires time in a complex plane, it is the most valuable.

Not sure landing full left of center line is a good idea…

@aerolife1646

2 жыл бұрын

I know, it is better to land on the center line. No pilot can land on the center line every time. There's really no harm on the wider runways.

@ivoryjohnson4662

5 ай бұрын

⁠@@aerolife1646everyone is a critic …..you all do just fine

here is a little primer in aviation history for you honey. it's not only rare to see 2 cardinals side by side. it's also rare to see a cardinal anywhere and it's not because they are so cool. it's because they were a flop and even cessna realized this before too long and stopped making them. here is another cool and unusual fact. cessna made 4 piston aircraft with odd numbers and every single one was a flop just like the cardinal. the 175 skylark, the 177 cardinal, the 337 mixmaster and last of all the 421 golden eagle which should have been named the pink elephant instead! i can't even tell you how many even number models they made which were wildly successful. you can't make this $hit up! there is one somewhat successful model the 185. when you have been around aviation as long as the folks who likely advised you not to buy this model you will figure this out for yourself with any luck!

@sailorguyrs

3 ай бұрын

You are pathetcally misinformed !!

Awesome thanks

@aerolife1646

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, thanks for watching.