Kerosene is more like Jet-A fuel. 100LL is a more like old leaded hi-test gasoline.

@aviationguys247

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I got confused I’ll have to correct that Thanks for the insight Please subscribe to my channel if you like my videos

@N1WP

2 жыл бұрын

@@aviationguys247 good video. 👍

@cassiespencer6134

2 жыл бұрын

The LL in 100LL means "low lead", even though it contains more tetra ethyl lead than automobile gasoline. In either case it acts as a detonation inhibitor. Meaning it prevents the fuel-air mixture from going 'bang' before it's suppose to. That is known as pre-ignition which can destroy an engine.

@byronrogers4489

Жыл бұрын

I can't taste the difference.

Stumbled across your vid as my lifelong interest in aviation was recently reignited. I was happily surprised when you mentioned Yeager. I live on the west side just beneath the approach to runway 5. At 47 yrs old, I still hold out hope that I can earn my pilot’s license someday. I suppose I should be grateful sims have come so far. Thanks for the education on small aircraft ownership costs! All the best.

@aviationguys247

Жыл бұрын

Small world Thanks for watching

@meganstockwell7760

8 күн бұрын

I believe in you. :) a dream like that must be explored. I wish you the best!!

Thanks for sharing your video. I enjoyed watching. Take care and God Bless.

@aviationguys247

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

Greetings from Arkansas. Loved the info

Nice Plane, my dad used to keep his 172 at Yeager Airport back in the 70's.

@aviationguys247

2 жыл бұрын

Small world Yeager was so busy back they with GA planes

thank you for this video. nicely don. And you have a nice handwriting ;- )

Bravo.thenks. go ahead

The annual is only the inspection. Parts are crazy expensive, and add to the total. A selector switch fuel valve for my Piper Comanche 250 was $497 back in 2004. I’m sure it’s gone up much more than that these days.

@aviationguys247

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah My cousin had a fuel selector valve malfunction and he couldnt find one anywhere at any price so he ended up rebuilding it himself. Parts are scarce and high Thanks for watching I appreciate it

@carltonstidsen8806

2 ай бұрын

A door hinge on my 152 was quoted at $700 a few years back . New Battery - $1,000. New Prop - $7,000 ( in 2016) . new paint job - $16,000 ( in 2017) . The snazzy pointed spinner on the 152 ? ( three parts) - close to $1,000 , ( AOPA Parts Ad) not including painting .

So in conclusion it's about 25,000- 30,000 a year for you to own the Cessna when you include the hangar, subscriptions, insurance, and annual.

@sriharshacv7760

2 ай бұрын

One certainly needs to be rich (at least upper middle class) to comfortably own this.

@vernonasian

2 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@carltonstidsen8806

2 ай бұрын

And this is on a 60+ year old airplane. BTW - I don't see a lot of folks putting 100 hours / year on their birds in my neck of the woods . That is close to 10 hours a month, presuming you are in a weather locale that allows a lot of flying

@ralfhagemann8116

25 күн бұрын

@@sriharshacv7760😊

Nice caddy in the back😎

A good video. I like those Cessna 172's.

@aviationguys247

4 ай бұрын

thanks they are great planes and alot of fun to fly

Private pilot here. You've detailed well the associated costs. Two others to consider are depreciation and annual personal property taxes. The later of which is brutal depending upon where you live. It's a grim fact of aviation life, being truly honest and open, that it was NEVER meant to be universally affordable or even attainable. And for any young person contemplating this arena as a career I would advise them to seek other avenues quickly. The frustrations are many and unending, the financial costs are stratospheric, and the payback is slow and often meager. Cheers.

The cheapest way is to build an experimental aircraft and you can use auto conversion engine and be very reliable. You can then sign off your airplane inspection as a builder.

@aviationguys247

2 жыл бұрын

That’s for sure

@charleswesley3642

2 жыл бұрын

@@aviationguys247 Most people look down on a simple KR2 with a 1915cc VW engine but they fly great.. I really liked the 1959 172 with the O290 but it was a dog compared to the very quick Kr 2. The VW was enough engine and never failed me for 15 years. All cylinders and heads replaced was about $ 700 , try that on a C65 . 3 gallons an hour and stressed to 6 Gs plus. It was cheap fun. It was a whole lot of fun and small enough to share a small T hanger . And you didn't have to strain to put it through the paces.

@carltonstidsen8806

2 ай бұрын

You haven't attended a lot of funerals of pilots have you ?

@steve2736

2 күн бұрын

Try to get hull and liability insurance on a home built. Especially for low time pilots.

Regarding insurance . . . what is the hull value? what are your liability limits and exclusions?

Thanks

In my experience its not the rising cost of fuel or parts but the hanger space and costs that are the biggest issues people run into that they underestimate.

@charlesrashid5675

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s hard to find a hanger period. Especially if you need a larger one for a twin or a jet. And yes the prices of hanger space have skyrocketed

@charleswesley3642

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlesrashid5675 I found that a KR2 is one hell of an airplane and literally spoiled me as to how forgiving it is and easy to fly. But it also shares a hanger real well . If you have to have liability insurance that's an additional cost.

@aviationguys247

2 жыл бұрын

I’ll check out the KR2

@cassiespencer6134

2 жыл бұрын

And we have a winner!! $$KA-CHING!$$ No kidding!

@mp-xt2rg

Жыл бұрын

My hanger is $130 a month. It's damn near impossible to get one but they aren't expensive once you have it. I'm in Kansas city.

Pretty plane.

Good video! Just an FYI kerosene is in the same family as diesel vs 100LL is in the same family as gasoline. That's why if you put kerosene or diesel in a jar you have to use a torch to catch them on fire. However, with 100LL and gasoline, it will catch on fire with just a match. you can also run a diesel on kerosene just fine in fact I've done it without an issue.

@aviationguys247

2 жыл бұрын

Ok Thanks for watching I appreciate the input

@zachschaneberger

2 жыл бұрын

@@aviationguys247 absolutely, we're all learning new things. Keep up the good content.

@EtopEtim

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, thought so too.

@carltonstidsen8806

2 ай бұрын

There aren't a lot of Diesel 172s in the sky. . Most 172's run on Avgas (100LL), unless you enjoy detonation , power failure and a rebuild ( around $25,000 ++ for a factory Reman) t. Around here 100LL runs about $6.50 / Gallon. Oil is $10.00 / Quart

And there I was, just about to put my deposit down on a Boeing 767 and then I watched this video 😭 I guess I'll have to put my £100 back under the mattress for now

Then 100 hours will cost you 20.000 = $200 per hour. The speed is 150 miles per hour. Then 1 mile cost will be about $1.33 It's a damn expensive! It's a really money to noise converter!

@aviationguys247

Жыл бұрын

No question it’s not cheap But I must say it’s worth it

@carltonstidsen8806

2 ай бұрын

and that is based on 100 hours per year , which is a lot unless you're retired or live in an airpark .

Seat stops are not sufficient to comply with the AD on seat rails. Not a bad idea, and a very good backup if wanted. But not compliant.

@aviationguys247

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and your input I’ll look into that more

Yeah, many don’t have $13k a year to play with. Been doing the numbers like this for years. It never made any sense. I’ve been in a club that shares the cost of flying a pietenpol aircamper. Costs are nowhere near this of course. Plus we have a club atmosphere. Friendships. Nice VFR daytime only. Keeping it a cheap safe-ish sport.

@aviationguys247

2 жыл бұрын

That’s great That’s really what it’s all about Flying and friends

@cassiespencer6134

2 жыл бұрын

Oh my gosh. I've never flown one, although I've seen a couple of them. They must be a blast to fly. What's Vso? I imagine it's some ridiculously slow, read: very cool, speed. :)

@aviationguys247

2 жыл бұрын

Vso is 49 mph I enjoy flying this plane in slow flight If you catch the right wind at altitude you can actually go zero or negative ground speed

@atypocrat1779

2 жыл бұрын

Pietenpol is a ton of fun. Stall speed is in the mid 30s. Cruise around 60mph

I’ll never understand the high price of something like a 172. It is low complexity and the development costs have been recouped long ago. I get the efficiencies that come from volume, but can’t help but compare to automobiles.

@aviationguys247

Жыл бұрын

I agree Its a proven classic that has had minor tweeks over the decades

@turninmonyin2noise978

Жыл бұрын

@@aviationguys247 the real reason aircraft and parts are so ridiculously expensive is due to, 1) FAA certification rules and then fact that the FAA is a bloated government bureaucracy that had a mission to promote aviation. But then they changed the mission to make aviation Safe as well as an inability to move into the 20th century much less the 21st. 2) the biggest reasons are a litigations brought on by Greedy ambulance chasing Lawyers that have made themselves very wealthy by sue every one and every body when there is an innocent. Liability insurance is the first $100,000.00 of the cost of a new plane. It got so bad in the 80’s that Cessna stopped production till Congress stepped in and passed laws. A 172 today is a five hundred dollar bill, in the early 70’s is was a 15 thousand dollar bill lawyers did that.

@carltonstidsen8806

2 ай бұрын

New SR-22s run to over $1,000,000.. Don't believe me ? go price one. THAT is why there are so many 50, 60, and 70 year old airplanes on the ramp.

...and tell us about that classic car in matching colours lurking in the background 🤣

@aviationguys247

Жыл бұрын

That’s my 1976 Cadillac Eldorado convertible! 500 cubic engine Love that car

@jamesrecknor6752

3 ай бұрын

@@aviationguys247 Epic

We are planning on installing a Garmin GNC 355 later this year in our club plane. Are we going to need to have a subscription for updates that you mentioned in your video?

@aviationguys247

2 жыл бұрын

Jeppesen

@charlesrashid5675

2 жыл бұрын

I’m not familiar with that box specifically but if you want to fly IFR I would say you need the updates every 28 days

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It was a good attempt. A for effort.

@aviationguys247

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching I plan on updating and correcting errors and answering some questions I’ve got in the comments Please subscribe if you like my content

@byronrogers4489

Жыл бұрын

That's a rebuttal?

That 76 [?] Eldorado is sweet

Sir not to be too critical but you need to make sure the information you are relaying is accurate 100 low lead is not kerosene or diesel

@aviationguys247

2 жыл бұрын

Yes sir I realized it after I posted I’m going to make an updated video correcting that Thanks for watching Appreciate it

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Good video, next time please use a microphone 😉

@aviationguys247

2 жыл бұрын

Will do Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching Please subscribe if you haven’t already

Did you mean to say $500 per hour for insurance? I think I maybe misunderstood that. So if you fly an average of 10 hrs per month you're going to pay $5k??

@aviationguys247

Жыл бұрын

$500 per year

So am I little town of Southeast Missouri 100 LL has now went up to $11 a gallon… I don’t think I’ll be flying for a while

@aviationguys247

2 жыл бұрын

Wow that’s high We’re now at $6.89

The entire engine has to be replaced every 1800 hours? Did I hear that wrong? That's less than a year for a plane being used full time 8 hours a day. And every year you have to pull the engine out and put a new one in that sounds ludicrous.

@charlesrashid5675

2 жыл бұрын

It is a recommendation that it be overhauled every 1800 hours All general aviation planes and even commercial have some similar requirements There are different overhaul times depending on the engine

@NocturneSega

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlesrashid5675 Yeah, although there are many engines running 2500+ hours, no need to overhaul if you're doing good maintenance and have some luck

@charlesrashid5675

2 жыл бұрын

Correct for part 91 it is only a suggestion

So even to own a 60-year-old used basic trainer airplane requires you to have a significant amount of lettuce in the bank. Wow. And they wonder why GA is stagnant?

@aviationguys247

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s not cheap for sure. To be fair thought I could get costs down by leaving it outside or getting a cheaper hanger and shopping around a bit more

@2Greenlid

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think a plane was ever for the blue collar worker….either is boating, sports cars, all toys in fact!

@BillSmith-rx9rm

2 жыл бұрын

@@2Greenlid neither were automobiles for the average Joe when they first came out. Only the wealthy could afford one. But that changed. And that goes for a lot of technology that develops over the years. However in aviation, apparently it has never become affordable and never will.

@erinp7517

Ай бұрын

@@BillSmith-rx9rm There is quite a lot going on these days in the world of personal aircraft these days. Think 1 or two passenger drones that can utilize G class air space. So maybe?

👍👍

@aviationguys247

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Please consider subscribing

Would you recommend this plane for sightseeing tours in the Caribbean ?

@aviationguys247

Жыл бұрын

Yes really any high wing 182 can carry more weight but a 172 would do the job nicely

Man, I really would love to fly my own plane. But even I could afford it, their is just too much stuff for my inept keister to keep track of. I'd have myself dead in a week 🤣

@cassiespencer6134

2 жыл бұрын

Have you ever taken lessons? If not, you should! Even if it's only once or twice. However, be warned! You may not be able to stop and could go broke. It's worse than an illicit drug habit. ;)

@azmike3572

2 жыл бұрын

No AAA in the sky.

What if you buy a plane and rent it out for other pilots that need for instance to making flying hours to get at least the minimum that is required. You can also have pilots that want to earn some money and fly with passengers and need a plane for that so they pay you a hourly fee so you can earn a littlebit each time to cover costs. If you buy a more modern plane with digital screens and Garmin 1000 I assume you can fly IFR with ILS instead only VFR flying with a typical 172. Buying a much more modern Cessna can be very expensive but I think if you also rent it out many pilots will use it for training flights. So instead you make a huge investment and pay yearly a lot of money for maybe 100 flying hours. Is owning and automatically renting out the best solution to keep the costs at a bare minimum? You want at the end not only the fixed costs back but also a profit. I would prefer going for flying a Cessna with Garmin 1000 so you have much more awareness where you fly. You can make a flight plans, fly even if the weather isn't great at some sectors and you can trust your instrument's to get not lost because planning and using only paper cards and something happens if you are at an unfamiliar place if you take for instance a long 5 hour flight. So a Cessna equipped with modern equipment and using a Flypad you don't have to be afraid if reading a paper chart isn't your strongest point where navigation is a very important point to be able to fly. But relying somewhat on digital navigation systems and have some weak points navigate just a map scanning visual to know where you are on thr map, so using modern systems that let you see where you are. A comparison everyone is driving with navigation and don't know how to use a paper map correctly. Is having some navigating weak points a problem to get your private pilot license?

@aviationguys247

3 ай бұрын

Great thoughts Its not that simple This Cessna actually has a gns480 with waas and this plane is IFR As far as renting the things you have to consider is the additional cost of insurance The increased wear and tear on the plan and the increased maintenance costs associated with the additional hours put on the plane. It’s very possible but just things to consider Thanks for your comments s

@carltonstidsen8806

2 ай бұрын

And when your insurance company finds out you are running a commercial operation ( renting an airplane for money , carrying passengers for hire, etc.) instead of a single user private pilot , watch your premiums and restrictions go right out of sight . Unless of course you don't tell them. and that little minor detail will probably cause your claim to be denied when your friend damages or crashes your airplane . .

@LennardA320

Ай бұрын

@@carltonstidsen8806 I would prefer the official way so all paper is according to the rules so everything is OK.

Would be nice to have that kind of cheese to own and fly. Looks like I'm stuck with my Hyundai.

@aviationguys247

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching There are ways to get into flying on the cheap Look into a flying club or civil air patrol

Ashtrays on the seat backs! Sweet! Who cares what the plane costs!?

Piston engines use AVGAS - essentially gasoline, 100 octane, low lead. Turbine engines use AVTUR, essentially expensive kerosene.

thanks for the informarion. Cost prohibited for me.

Saw an airplane I want go buy, saw this video, walked away from the airplane I wanted to buy. You are better off joining a club

@aviationguys247

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t disagree Just really just depends on your mission and your goals A club is a great way to own a plane

So what are annuals exactly? Was that the inspection?

@aviationguys247

2 жыл бұрын

Annuals are annual inspections that are required each year for a plane to remain airworthy. Its a pretty detailed inspection of the entire plane

Why is the Cirrus considerably more costly for the annuals? Unknowledgeable (at this time)

@mylifeonthebeach

2 жыл бұрын

Love the videos btw

@aviationguys247

2 жыл бұрын

My annuals have ranged from $1200 to $12000 It really depends on what they find On the last one I had it completely go they because i hadn’t had a cirrus service center go thru it. Also had to rebuild the mags. I can’t recall now what else they found but there were a couple of other costly items found. In addition Cirrus needs a parachute repacked every 10 years and that costs &10,000 And the seatbelts have airbags that need redone ever 5 years I think and that funds $5000 Hope this helps I’m actually going to update this video because I made a few errors and I want to expand on all the costs including overhaul costs

@mylifeonthebeach

2 жыл бұрын

@@aviationguys247 Thanks for the clarification … I was under the impression that just the inspection cost was the amount quoted, not including repairs found. (Which made the wide variability in cost not understandable) Makes more sense now! Like I stated, unknowledgeable, just hatching a crazy idea in my head and came looking for information. Keep up with the great videos!

I see why all planes I looked at for sale are around 1800 hours, isn’t that nice of them? Not only are you buying a plane but a repair bill right out the gate. That’s messed up.

At 6.28 you say “....this engine has to be replaced every 1800 hours”. Are you sure? I understand Cessna engines cost tens of thousands of dollars to replace. Perhaps you mean overhauled or major service or suchlike.

@aviationguys247

Жыл бұрын

Yes I meant major overhauled Thanks for asking for clarification

I will buy a Plane even if my wife divorce me. Lol

I'm wondering if this guy should own, or even be flying, if he doesn't know what kind of fuel his plane uses. Has me thinking he may be an accident looking for a place to happen.

100 LL is like kerosene?

HELLO AVIATION GUYS! I LIVE IN THE TROPICS AND JUST AQUIRED A BUSINESS LICENCE FOR A SEAPLANE FOR ISLAND TOURS. I AM BRAND NEW AT THIS AND REALLY ENJOY THE VIDEOS AND INFORMATION!! WILL BE WATCHING YOU!! I THINKING A 172 WITH PONTOONS.?

@aviationguys247

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching I have a few hours in a seaplane Too fun!

AV gas is not kerosene by a long shot! AV gas 100LLis an alkyate gasoline of 100 octane. Diesel is measured in Cetane.

Nice plane. 100LL is not like kerosene. 100LL is hi-test gasoline with blue dye. Jet-A is basically purified kerosene. But good video otherwise.

@charlesrashid5675

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment I plan on updating the video soon to correct that and expand on a few things I left out

Is it worth keeping it IFR.

@aviationguys247

2 жыл бұрын

I think so Thanks for watching

I$believe$

It's all the FAA's obsolete rules...the small planes in Europe have way over taken the US in aircraft development

Insurance is charged per hour ?

@aviationguys247

Жыл бұрын

Insurance is by the year I misspoke

I always dreamed of flying....but i guess it will stay a dream..... Forever🥺😥😭😭

@aviationguys247

Жыл бұрын

You never know Don’t give up Make it happen

Note : you did not say what it cost per year total cost.

@aviationguys247

2 жыл бұрын

It’s at the very end of the video I recap totals

@charleswesley3642

2 жыл бұрын

Like they say , If you have to ask it's too much! A free plane can be the most expensive.

100ll is basically kerosene? It's just gasoline. Kerosene is more similar to diesel or jet-a

@aviationguys247

Жыл бұрын

Yes I realize my mistake Thanks for watching If you enjoy my videos please consider subscribing

It’s NOT kerosene I can promise you that. It is highly flammable.

@aviationguys247

2 жыл бұрын

Yes sir My mistake

If you can't figure out the cost of ownership on a helicopter and aircraft you can't afford the thing anyway you're better off renting and unit that has proper maintenance done not by a newbie pilot and they don't want the aircraft having a catastrophic engine failure so they're going to do proper maintenance if not extra maintenance fast oil changes more oil tests so if you're watching this video you need to be renting not owning

@aviationguys247

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree Also depends on how much you fly Most people only fly 10 to 20 hours a year and that makes it tough to justify the cost of ownership Thanks for watching and commenting

6:16 Engine has to be replaced every 1800 hrs ?!

@aviationguys247

Жыл бұрын

Not replaced but it is suggested to be overhauled every 1800 hrs

@universeunknown1880

Жыл бұрын

@@aviationguys247 I purchased mine from A&P that owned it for about a decade before me, he decided to do top end inspection when it was getting close to TBO and he said there was not 1 thing that would make the engine un airworthy, he regretted doing it in the first place. Eventually I flew the plane home from NC to OR and I couldn’t be happier with the performance. A lot more people now are coming to the conclusion to do an overhaul based on engine conditions instead of suggested TBO time, of which I’m a big proponent. Again, I’m speaking from a owner prospective not a business. I find it slightly misleading but saying “…it need to be replaced” which is simply untrue. Anyhow, great video !

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Except you need fly frequently 13000 us dolar a year just in cost is too much. And if you have overall maintenance engine every ,1500 hours. This cost will burn your pocket. 😅

Kerosene !! I dont think so. Highly leaded petrol.

@aviationguys247

Жыл бұрын

Yeah my mistake Thanks for pointing that out

Kerosene? It runs on gasoline does it not. Jet A is high grade kerosene

@aviationguys247

Жыл бұрын

Correct My mistake

Avgas isn’t kerosene JetA is basically kerosene

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I quit when they made the chart data too small and LED display was too hard to see

@carltonstidsen8806

2 ай бұрын

That is why God made Foreflight with moving airplanes , magenta lines and expandable displays , and put it on an IPAD. . $200 / year gets a LOT of data , but I still fly with paper charts ( which are updated every TWO months now.) as a backup

Affordable

@aviationguys247

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Please consider subscribing

Wait you live in Charleston wv?

@aviationguys247

Жыл бұрын

Yes You?

@ajnull6116

Жыл бұрын

@@aviationguys247 yes sir been flying with hanger 9. got about 6 hrs

@charlesrashid5675

Жыл бұрын

@@ajnull6116 awesome My hangar is 3B

@ajnull6116

Жыл бұрын

@@charlesrashid5675 that's sweet maybe I'll see you up there sometime.

$1500. Or even $750 a month is insane for a hangar

@aviationguys247

4 ай бұрын

Really depends on the hangar and the airport It ranges widely

I’ve seen movies from the 70’s where they fly these planes that look exactly like this. You would think the design would have advanced more by 2022. 🙄

@aviationguys247

2 жыл бұрын

They are still making this style today Minor changes and tweeks but basically the same

@cassiespencer6134

2 жыл бұрын

They're still in production and have changed little other than the instruments. Oh, and the price. $xxxx,xxx Yeah. As far as overall design there's no reason to change it since it does exactly what it was intended to do. I have a lot of time in them as an instructor and in that role they excelled and were the first step up for students after the C150/152 for example. That said I haven't flown one in a number of years and may not be able to. My brain is no longer calibrated for such low speeds. ;)

@dkdanis1340

2 жыл бұрын

Well it's still called cessna 172. But it has been modernized with screens inside, advanced autopilot, stability control. And there's difference in designs it might look the same from the front but there's some difference over the years.

@markstainton9080

2 жыл бұрын

Some modern whistles and bells ( trivia ?) but the basic design is still perfect for it's intended role.

So basically if you have a 9-5, you can't afford to have your own plane. You need to own your own mega business or be wealthy enough that your interest from your wealth can pay all the expenses and then some. And you need to fly enough to justify even having one in the first place. I would rather own a yacht. Neither of which will happen. But if that is you, more power to you.

@aviationguys247

Жыл бұрын

It’s definitely not cheap but I have found ways to have others at least offset my cost of ownership It’s my passion I would say yachts are probably more expensive but to each his own

I never thought that flying was so expensive....you must be almost a miljonair....or at least have 60.000 or 80.000 of income a year...

@carltonstidsen8806

2 ай бұрын

Preferably six figures . Us peasants in the $60-80K range buy and fly 50 year old airplanes and hope for the best . The lawyers , Doctors and Hedge Fund Managers buy the new stuff. . It's like the old joke "If you have to ask "how much" you can't afford it.

Insurance at $500 per hour adds up quickly. Ha

100LL is gas, not kerosene

Kerosene? Really?

@aviationguys247

4 ай бұрын

Yeah My mistake, Just got out of a jet when i filmed that and made a mistake. I plan on updating this video since i just installed a 180hp lycoming engine and correcting my mistakes. thanks for watching

normal old used cessna 172 or good lucky 182 found 30k-55k not 100k pay than idiot. engine found 2000-6000$ and repair cost max 4000$ paint can do in home cost less than 2000$ and ready to fly found lot old cessna million hangar in usa less than 60k

@aviationguys247

2 жыл бұрын

To each their own From what I’ve seen this is the nicest and cheapest 172 on the market. If you are mechanically inclined and comfortable working on your plane then mor power to you That’s not me unfortunately Thanks for watching

* Hangar, not hanger.

@aviationguys247

2 жыл бұрын

Yes thanks Fat finger

@XB10001

2 жыл бұрын

@@aviationguys247 😁👍

100 LL is not kerosene it's gasolene. I'm beginning to wonder if this guy even owns an airplane.

@aviationguys247

Жыл бұрын

Yes my mistake I’m putting a new engine in this 172 and I plan on correcting the errors I made on this video Thanks for watching

You put kerosene (!) in your 172 ?? Avgas , pal is NOT Kerosene. JET FUEL IS !!. Let me know next time you fly with both tanks full of kerosene.. I;ll call the papers to witness the crash when the engine quits .

dang only for the rich

@aviationguys247

Жыл бұрын

Not if you can use it to improve your business or simply save time. Everything has a cost

wery old 1967 cessna maximum cost 45k $ not good wery old.

@aviationguys247

2 жыл бұрын

I haven’t seen any 172: this well equipped under $79k The nice thing about airplanes is they are inspected annually and any issues are addressed before they become a problem. A planes panel can be more expensive than the airframe itself. Thanks for watching and your input

For the love of GOD, please buy a tripod and STAND STILL !!!!!!

$750 a month for a concrete slab inside an aluminum box with a few overhead lights🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@aviationguys247

3 ай бұрын

Yeah not cheap

@darrellcaraway6068

2 ай бұрын

What a racket

@carltonstidsen8806

2 ай бұрын

Cheap at the price . Around here , hangars run at $900 - 1,000/ Month IF you can find one.

Did 5000 hours in 172s... Didn't cost me a cent.... Boom.

@carltonstidsen8806

2 ай бұрын

Ain't no such thing as "free Flying" . Sweat Equity at best . I flew 172s for Civil Air Patrol for 40 years and put up with all their horse****t , regulations , politics, and paperwork , flying for all the Alphabet Agencies . Or fly commercially , be a CFI , etc. There are ways to reduce your flying cost , but no one is going to hand them to you..

I stopped the video when he said that insurance is under $500 an hour

@aviationguys247

Жыл бұрын

My mistake Obvious error Insurance is just under $500 per year Thanks for watching

@macv17

Жыл бұрын

@@aviationguys247 I need a renters insurance any recommendation when it comes to insurance company

@charlesrashid5675

Жыл бұрын

@@macv17 I’m not sure about the insurance company But we you the Hoxton agency In WV and the have been great for us

Terrible audio management makes this video not watchable. I hope you pay more attention to your flying than you did to making this.

im not buying one

@aviationguys247

Жыл бұрын

Planes are expensive but they offer many joys and freedoms. - you can still enjoy the benefits by renting or sharing expenses

Not a good video. You should redo it.

@aviationguys247

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Can you tell me what you thought needed redone?

@Kevin-fg7qb

Жыл бұрын

@@aviationguys247 it is a good video

Audio is TERRIBLE!

@aviationguys247

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching I’ll see if I can enhance it

100LL Avgas Is “essentially kerosine?” Noooo, 100LL is gasoline. JetA is essentially kerosine. “Aviation Guys” huh?

Nice plane! But Hard PASS I can barely afford a bus 🚎 pass

@aviationguys247

2 жыл бұрын

Understood Keep after it

@2Greenlid

2 жыл бұрын

Sooo….your watching airplane videos?