Century Repulsion-Start Induction Antique Electric Motor - Troubleshooting No-Start Humming...

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In this video, I troubleshoot a Century Electric motor from the 1920's.

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  • @builtbydylan8315
    @builtbydylan8315 Жыл бұрын

    Century motors are state of the art. I have a late model cast iron 5 speed fan with the plain casting and it runs like a dream

  • @davida1hiwaaynet

    @davida1hiwaaynet

    Жыл бұрын

    They are really timeless in design!

  • @madmanmapper
    @madmanmapper4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I hate that too, when some armchair engineer tells me I can't use an abrasive to clean a commutator, or electrical contacts. In the case of contacts, they insist you use a contact cleaning strip... which is literally 500 grit on a piece of sheet metal! Also, as someone who also appreciates old stuff, things like the example you gave, about the end housing being designed to be beautiful... I think that's really something that's been lost, hasn't it? To them, they figured that piece is being cast either which way, so making it pretty cost them almost nothing. Today, things like motors are always designed to look simple and utilitarian. As if beauty is an old fashioned concept.

  • @davida1hiwaaynet

    @davida1hiwaaynet

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sadly; I think you're right that beauty is an old-fashioned and lost concept now. Everything has to be the cheapest. It's like pride in craftsmanship which made the industrial revolution happen is being lost now. These people who just blurt out "that is bad" when they see an unfamiliar product are being closed-minded. They are missing the point that it's up to the end-user to determine if any given product is fit for any particular purpose. I have my favorites such as the red scotch-brite and Wearever brake cleaner. Those both have remained unchanged for as long as I remember. The issue with cleaning abrasives is, there are so many and some of them are conductive. Makers sell products without telling you what's in them so it's a buyer-beware market. The Scotch-Brite pad I used isn't conductive and can't create shorts by jamming particles of conductive grit between the commutator segments. With the sliding friction and carbon-copper interface of the commutator, there is less worry about residue. With high power contact points, such a motor starter contactors, or the centrifugal switch contacts in a motor there is one extra concern. The contacts are metal alloy which develop an oxide layer. That layer helps keep them from welding together from the arc of making or breaking contact. If you end up with some coating which prevents the oxide layer from working, the contacts have all the aspects necessary to weld. Some abrasives melt in the heat of an arc, forming a glass-like layer which coats the contacts. This layer is essentially the final aspect of a welding process, acting like a flux and allowing the contacts to fuse together without the oxide layer being able to form. With small relay contacts and the like, it should never be a problem but for high power contacts, I always try to be SURE no abrasive residue remains. I haven't ever had my own repaired contacts weld, but I have salvaged stuck contactors that were welded. No idea the cause.

  • @erlendse

    @erlendse

    4 жыл бұрын

    As for attention for details: it come at a cost. Many are not willing to pay it today. Also, if they take time to make a nice casing, they have probably done some effort to make what matters be as good as it can reasonably get with what they have. Cheap junk have probably always been cheap junk! Old quality items stay around, for the past & the future.

  • @MrUbiquitousTech

    @MrUbiquitousTech

    4 жыл бұрын

    LOL, if people are complaining about abrasives, they must really pop a cork at the concept of an armature lathe.

  • @madmanmapper

    @madmanmapper

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MrUbiquitousTech ikr?

  • @stephenbrown8898

    @stephenbrown8898

    4 жыл бұрын

    Less metal is used with the skeletal design and also more air flow to benefit cooling the natural materials to prevent degradation. Rounded and beveled holes are stronger. So there was engineering involved as well as beauty.

  • @jamesp8391
    @jamesp83914 жыл бұрын

    Once this corona virus ends, I have a big 5hp one to go troubleshoot. It’s from 1925, so I hope it’s a century. They usually are when I get calls for something from that era. I just hope nobody screwed around with it. Fantastic motors!

  • @davida1hiwaaynet

    @davida1hiwaaynet

    4 жыл бұрын

    They are fascinating motors! Hope the facility where it is allows you to take a video or two.

  • @SuperGlocker77
    @SuperGlocker774 жыл бұрын

    Nice video as always. It's great that you strive to preserve history.

  • @MrUbiquitousTech
    @MrUbiquitousTech4 жыл бұрын

    Excellent trouble shooting video David, thank you for that! And I agree, older machinery has a lot more than just function in it, but a lot of artistic value in them as well. This goes to motors, hand-wheels, lathes, pulleys, drill presses, etc, etc. This makes them not only collectable, IMO, but a pleasure to use as well.

  • @Geddy107
    @Geddy1074 жыл бұрын

    This is a great video brother, I appreciate you making your knowledge available to the rest of us.

  • @davida1hiwaaynet

    @davida1hiwaaynet

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, glad it was helpful!

  • @brycelindsay438
    @brycelindsay4383 жыл бұрын

    Just got a 1905 GE motor and I’m a beginner with these things. Thanks for the vid. Huge help

  • @jeremyvoshage2410
    @jeremyvoshage24104 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Your videos are always appreciated!

  • @terrycannon570
    @terrycannon570 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent demonstration. No explanation needed for me as to why anyone would want to keep one of these antique motors. I have a Champion Blower Camel Back drill press that is older than dirt but in mint condition. It has an antique 1 horse Century R/I motor. I need to take it apart and clean it because when I meggared it tested bad. It is worth it to me to repair the old motor rather than put a newer Cap Start single phase motor on it. Again, excellent demonstration.

  • @moorescomfortsystemsheatin6068
    @moorescomfortsystemsheatin60684 жыл бұрын

    Yea I have a few videos out restoring old fridges but your on a whole Nother level. Great videos.

  • @davida1hiwaaynet

    @davida1hiwaaynet

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I really appreciate it. I'll be watching your videos as well. Thanks for the pointer to them!

  • @stephenbrown8898
    @stephenbrown88983 жыл бұрын

    Awesome I love these motors. Your videos are great.

  • @RG-li5zq
    @RG-li5zq3 жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed your informative video. As a reminder, always use the non-flammable can of brake cleaner.

  • @joe1569
    @joe15692 жыл бұрын

    Explanation excellent

  • @leolamorie-fitzgerald9216
    @leolamorie-fitzgerald92163 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this video man saved me

  • @wernerfeil7900
    @wernerfeil79003 жыл бұрын

    Läuft und klingt schön

  • @davida1hiwaaynet

    @davida1hiwaaynet

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @RickBaconsAdventures
    @RickBaconsAdventures4 жыл бұрын

    That sound never gets old!

  • @tysondaniel2419

    @tysondaniel2419

    3 жыл бұрын

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  • @johnathanjedidiah7930

    @johnathanjedidiah7930

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Tyson Daniel Definitely, have been using flixzone} for since november myself :)

  • @aidenavi5976

    @aidenavi5976

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Tyson Daniel Yea, I have been watching on Flixzone} for since december myself =)

  • @RickBaconsAdventures

    @RickBaconsAdventures

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey David, for some reason my comment is attracting fake spam accounts that are promoting some bootleg movie streaming site. Feel free to take it down if you need to. Thanks!

  • @aspedersen1
    @aspedersen14 жыл бұрын

    And all it needed was a good clean and a bit of lube....easy fix! :)

  • @davida1hiwaaynet

    @davida1hiwaaynet

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yep! This one didn't take much in the way of "hard work" to get going!

  • @wetdedstuocm
    @wetdedstuocm4 жыл бұрын

    Learning good things..Peace

  • @davida1hiwaaynet

    @davida1hiwaaynet

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @brianderkacz652
    @brianderkacz6523 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I just inherited the same motor. What kind of oil do you use to lubricate the rod and bearings? There is two small ports on each end of the motor

  • @weberbuff
    @weberbuff3 жыл бұрын

    Do you have any videos that describe how to replace the oiling pads on the ends of the motor

  • @trevorseals6588
    @trevorseals65882 жыл бұрын

    My guess on the gummy stuff would be someone tried to lube it with WD-40. It’s good for keeping moisture and rust off of metal but it eventually dries out and turns into a hard grease. Learned this the hard way lubing my 22 as a kit and the bolt wouldn’t move the next time I tried to use it.

  • @jimbarrick455
    @jimbarrick4554 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, enjoyed the video. I have a repulsion induction motor that is not quite that old: Craftsman 551.1939. It is not running. Could you fix it? Jim

  • @realvanman1
    @realvanman14 жыл бұрын

    It appears that the short circuiting necklace spring went in backwards from how it came out. I wonder if that was part of the problem? Or if it doesn’t matter? I was watching closely since I have one that has been apart for a long time, and the necklace spring was burned, so I don’t know which way it goes. ;)

  • @scottposey3036

    @scottposey3036

    3 жыл бұрын

    I saw that as well. When the necklace was removed, the spring was on the inside. When installed it was on the outside. I have not idea if that matters since I have never worked on a motor with a necklace. Just wondering. Since the spring has eyelets at each end, should there be a small spring connecting the eyelets to hold the necklace spring together or does the strength of the necklace spring hold itself in place?

  • @bamaslamma1003
    @bamaslamma10034 жыл бұрын

    Amazing how quiet it is when it's sitting on a pad. Is this a 120/240v motor or just 120? What's the hp rating?

  • @KevinJones-oz9pj

    @KevinJones-oz9pj

    4 жыл бұрын

    It’s a dual-voltage. It most likely states 110/220vac, as those would have been standards at the time of manufacture. Quarter horse. (1/4hp), is what I believe he said.

  • @rodritz8384
    @rodritz83843 жыл бұрын

    I have a old Century and a B-Line, after watching this maybe I'll try tearing them apart. My local Motor Service said boat anchors, cheaper to replace. I do have one question. Is that motor also a 220v, hook the two center wires together and 220v to the two outside?

  • @davida1hiwaaynet

    @davida1hiwaaynet

    3 жыл бұрын

    That is correct. The two coils in parallel are for the lower voltage, while the two coils in series for for the higher voltage.

  • @melvis2017
    @melvis20172 жыл бұрын

    Special tool for to clean the commutator

  • @TheMatsushitaMan
    @TheMatsushitaMan4 жыл бұрын

    What was that starting up at 6:59?

  • @davida1hiwaaynet

    @davida1hiwaaynet

    4 жыл бұрын

    That was a 1931 Frigidaire belt-drive unit. It has a Delco repulsion start motor.

  • @gtb81.
    @gtb81.4 жыл бұрын

    connecting the two middle wires it should have still started, because that's the 240v configuration, i have the same motor, and it will start in that configuration but with significantly less power

  • @davida1hiwaaynet

    @davida1hiwaaynet

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cool! I'm sure it would have run, just less kick. Hang onto that motor as they are hard to come by. :)

  • @erlendse

    @erlendse

    4 жыл бұрын

    Agree, not uncommon to see on transformers, two 110V windings. You pick 110V paralell, or 220V series, seems reasonable for the motor too.

  • @gtb81.

    @gtb81.

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@davida1hiwaaynet i payed a whopping $16 for it

  • @Kitchfox
    @Kitchfox3 жыл бұрын

    Just needed fiddling with by someone who knew how to fiddle with it.

  • @moorescomfortsystemsheatin6068
    @moorescomfortsystemsheatin60684 жыл бұрын

    Not trying to be nosy but what is your occupation? Just Wondering how you learn how to do all this

  • @davida1hiwaaynet

    @davida1hiwaaynet

    4 жыл бұрын

    No problem. My dad and grandfather got me interested in things like this when I was pretty much too young to talk. I've worked as a field service engineer my whole life. My current job involves commissioning, integration, and troubleshooting of power generation equipment, its controls, and engines that drive it. All of this type technology fascinates me. I research things I don't know and take time to understand "how and why" instead of just "following a procedure" until it works. So I guess I learned through experience with work and hobbies; and through some schooling plus years of self research on different problems I've encountered.

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