Centaura: Lack of Strategic Sense

Have you ever noticed that some of the battles in Centaura don't make sense? After a lot of playthroughs, I did.
[Written by me, voiced by AI]
Note: Wondershare Filmora recently super-improved their AI voice libraries, so I took a look around. I found a really nice one, sounded decently natural, so I merged it with an idea of mine and it turned out pretty well! From now on expect the voice you hear here to replace mine in commentaries as it sounds much much nicer than my own in the field.
I might even bring back my RON timelapses!
'Phase Shift' by Scott Buckley - released under CC-BY 4.0. www.scottbuckley.com.au

Пікірлер: 179

  • @MrMereScratch
    @MrMereScratch6 күн бұрын

    Artworks credits go to: www.youtube.com/@PoweringRusli www.youtube.com/@ClassicMasterNoob And photo credits go to the Centaura Fandom Wiki community.

  • @aungkyawmin6709
    @aungkyawmin67095 күн бұрын

    More things to note for me personally is how we see instances of armored cars being used as breakthrough vehicles as if they are tanks. When in reality they probably have less than an inch of armor making them vulnerable to rifle rounds and have them be easily stuck in off-road terrain. This is seen in Coastal Battery Q, Mons Planus and Route 23. In reality, armored cars during this time are either tasked with transporting high value military personnel or reconnaissance.

  • @MrMereScratch

    @MrMereScratch

    5 күн бұрын

    Yeah. I was playing Route 23 and knocked out 8 armored cars in one go while laughing about it with my friend. I totally agree with your point.

  • @user-uf3tr5bp9d

    @user-uf3tr5bp9d

    2 күн бұрын

    I agree but in Centaura we start seeing AT rifles from the Aquilan campaign onwards

  • @Captain_potat

    @Captain_potat

    2 күн бұрын

    Well here’s the thing, the timeline in tech dosnt really match up. The first tanks were invented in our timeline in 1916, and (doing this from memory) the first real tanks arrive in centaura in the final battles of the Cetan war (I’m pretty sure there’s on on the train) tanks is our time,one we’re mostly used to try and break through lines when they were first deployed. Your point about armored cars is probably true but remember, this was both nations in desperation to break the enemy, so they would probably use anything they have, and the armored cars would be one of the first to be sent out.

  • @user-nf8id6di9b
    @user-nf8id6di9b5 күн бұрын

    centaura tactics: send as many people into highly defended positions and hope you sent more men than they have bullets

  • @MrMereScratch

    @MrMereScratch

    4 күн бұрын

    @@user-nf8id6di9b Yep.

  • @abufauzan4003

    @abufauzan4003

    4 күн бұрын

    That's the problem, in the game we got unlimited bullets

  • @GuynamedSk0mz

    @GuynamedSk0mz

    4 күн бұрын

    Thats just textbook attrition

  • @Cutepanda1943

    @Cutepanda1943

    4 күн бұрын

    We also have unlimited men.

  • @GuynamedSk0mz

    @GuynamedSk0mz

    3 күн бұрын

    @@Cutepanda1943 unless it's Kelson village

  • @OrbitalKineticbombardemnt
    @OrbitalKineticbombardemnt5 күн бұрын

    For Blackton, that villiage never was a goal, it was simply where the two armies first met. I do agree with your trench arguments but they mainly do that for gameplay reasons. Id say the forest trench map wasn’t worth the usual 3-4 thousand dead for medical supplies and artillery, and Route 23 was a planned offensive, every other way is surrounded by thick forest that prevents armor getting through, and by now Antares likely needs time to recover its troops before any new major offensive. Plenty of IRL examples of route 23 happen IRL too, and in Route 23 the infantry work with the armor, the armor providing (not very good) covering fire and blowing up some defenses and enemy tanks, while the infantry paves the way for Antaren armor to drive deeper. Route 23 also has air support, unseen until this point in game. This map was more or less a gamble to end the war as soon as possible

  • @stoodle511

    @stoodle511

    5 күн бұрын

    @@OrbitalKineticbombardemnt these are some good points

  • @MrMereScratch

    @MrMereScratch

    5 күн бұрын

    Yeah, I can see that. Nice points! (Your username is also one of my favorite forms of weaponry :D)

  • @darrellmazurok7487
    @darrellmazurok74875 күн бұрын

    My Opinion is for WHY you don't spawn into trenches is because you'd be like Antares on Mons Planus and get near to capturing a Cetan trench their just going to spawn immediately and gun you down. Its probably more or less for gameplay and not for a Aneurysm.

  • @Rhett_Kierbow
    @Rhett_Kierbow4 күн бұрын

    This is war it’s highly erratic and spontaneous, let me take the battle of Gettysburg to help prove it. The battle of Gettysburg was fought from july1-3 1863 when Ap hills corps stumbled across a cavalry unit under John Buford in the small town of Gettysburg, Gettysburg played no pivotal role in the campaign until that point, it was just a small town that lee had orders be taken for the small depot there and it ended up being the biggest and bloodiest battle in American history.

  • @MrMereScratch

    @MrMereScratch

    4 күн бұрын

    @@Rhett_Kierbow That’s interesting.

  • @Pedro_Alcantara

    @Pedro_Alcantara

    2 күн бұрын

    While Yes, war is imposed chaos, it's exactly the most well organized and communicated force, or at least, The LEAST disorganized force that allwyas wins, it's only recently that you kids have grown the idea that war is like call of duty and you don't stick to your lead while gunning stuff down like Rambo

  • @slayermcrx7519

    @slayermcrx7519

    15 сағат бұрын

    the biggest? probably yeah. bloodiest, no although it was probably pretty close. Antietam still holds the bloodiest title because it was just a sheer massacre

  • @MrMereScratch

    @MrMereScratch

    8 сағат бұрын

    @@slayermcrx7519 “Oh boy do I sure love standing shoulder to shoulder with cannons ahead. Sure hope only one of us dies this time…”

  • @sisbrolife8183
    @sisbrolife81833 күн бұрын

    I’m pretty sure for blackton, it was one of the most valued towns due to its mines which both the corvuns and the cetans needed. The cetans to mine iron, and the corvuns for the coal industry. Because Cetus took over the mines, Corvus’ coal industry suffered sending them into an economic collapse. I dunno though not really a tactical genius.

  • @MrMereScratch

    @MrMereScratch

    3 күн бұрын

    @@sisbrolife8183 Yeah, but there is a lot of troops committed to that little town haha.

  • @sisbrolife8183

    @sisbrolife8183

    3 күн бұрын

    @@MrMereScratch thats true

  • @ThePawsketeer

    @ThePawsketeer

    3 күн бұрын

    It’s important to note non of the battles in Centaura (game) are actually major events, taking over Blackton in a way makes sense as it’s part of South Corvus lands and the whole Second South Corvus War and the Cetan Theatre was for Corvus to retake the South Corvus area. It’s also still one of the first places in the region to be met with combat.

  • @sisbrolife8183

    @sisbrolife8183

    2 күн бұрын

    @@ThePawsketeer perhaps apart of a larger operation that was important yes, but not the individual town

  • @sisbrolife8183

    @sisbrolife8183

    3 сағат бұрын

    Ascendens Forest could potentially make sense because well maybe the original detachment got wiped out and there’s a new garrison moving to it after both sides abandoned it i guess? Although it seems a bit lacking in sense because you could just station troops there incase the Aquilans push your frontlines back.

  • @icommittedwarcrimesinserbia
    @icommittedwarcrimesinserbia4 күн бұрын

    average day in the centauran continent

  • @firelight0741

    @firelight0741

    3 күн бұрын

    And Usea from Ace Combat

  • @user-pk2ev2fe9t
    @user-pk2ev2fe9t4 күн бұрын

    I think that most of the errors in strategic logic is simply for the purposes of gameplay

  • @MrMereScratch

    @MrMereScratch

    4 күн бұрын

    @@user-pk2ev2fe9t Yeah, I had mentioned that in the video.

  • @loadingscreentipguy
    @loadingscreentipguy4 күн бұрын

    Well, it is meant to be a prequel to DEAD AHEAD. Made after Noobic Sea. And Capri valley is the oldest map. Made to be just a place holder (I think) back in the days of Gridlock. Plus, there mostly working on dead now. Plus theres a chance that Grid lock was going to be a test for atoll. Which is very, very chaotic.

  • @loadingscreentipguy

    @loadingscreentipguy

    4 күн бұрын

    Also dead ahead is being revived.

  • @ThePawsketeer

    @ThePawsketeer

    3 күн бұрын

    I want Atoll to be added back, I know Centaura takes place during the Centauran Wars but it would be fun to have land battles that go on during Dead Ahead, as Atoll was originally scrapped because Centaura was based on ground combat.

  • @loadingscreentipguy

    @loadingscreentipguy

    3 күн бұрын

    @@ThePawsketeer It will most likely come back. It was my favorite mode.

  • @ThePawsketeer

    @ThePawsketeer

    3 күн бұрын

    @@loadingscreentipguy some people shit on it, but I feel like it’s an alright mode, better than Stronghold because you don’t have much to defend the bastions and Antares basically just kamikaze’s the hell out of them.

  • @rodrigohaddad3798
    @rodrigohaddad3798Күн бұрын

    Blacktown is the frist battle were two armis met,it was a coldmine, reason for the war, and Kelson Village was a holding point for Cetus, they have already lost much territory so they would like to stop the Corvun at th villages befor ethey got to the big cities.

  • @centralhunter9169
    @centralhunter9169Күн бұрын

    In route 23, I understand what you are saying. In the lore, General Archer was criticized for his bullhead style of attack in the Aquilan campaign , which is sending men straight into a fortified position and hope it works. For Ascendens forest, maybe the Aquilan soldiers are caught by surprise and need to quickly move.

  • @AKenneth224
    @AKenneth2243 күн бұрын

    The owner explicitly stated all maps in Centuara are relatively minor in the grander scheme of things. They are not battles that defined an entire campaign or turned the tide of battle. Even if a country was able to win on a certain map (or even all maps in a given campaign), Antares and her allies will still manage to conquer the entire country in lore.

  • @ethanton7074
    @ethanton70743 күн бұрын

    If someone else said this already, then extra reminder: None of the battles are very pivotal to the wars. It was intended that the maps were not major so that the result of the war remained the same. So, winning as the Cetus marines won't cause a major change. In fact, it is explicitly said (if I recall correctly) that only a few portions of the navy landed. The end result is already that they failed their mission. Your success (as the marines) was shadowed by the overall strategic failure. Another counterargument surrounding places with minor objectives for major investments into, is the frontline. Inconsequential places might become the point of contention between two armies. That, or I'm wrong.

  • @ethanton7074

    @ethanton7074

    3 күн бұрын

    Regardless, points in the video are correct and is very straightforward. Nice!

  • @ethanton7074

    @ethanton7074

    3 күн бұрын

    Also, for maps with trenches, if I recall correctly, armies in WW1 rushed in to occupy trenches after engineers completed trenchworks. Additionally, it's not an ongoing battle, I think.

  • @MrMereScratch

    @MrMereScratch

    3 күн бұрын

    @@ethanton7074 Thank you!

  • @verynormalperson7003

    @verynormalperson7003

    2 күн бұрын

    the EM landings we see at whitemouth were only a small portion of the landings, as the devs stated there were other, larger landings with capital ships

  • @Deranged_ottoman
    @Deranged_ottoman3 күн бұрын

    Explanation 1 : resources. Explanation 2 : chlorine gas was probably added during the battle. other than that no importance other than a skirmish where the 2 sides happen to meet. 3: trenches cannot work their intended purpose at steep elevation. trenches also have some form of cover (plank boards) from artillery. other than that, makes sense.

  • @rhyusbrand8311
    @rhyusbrand83112 күн бұрын

    By the way, Route 23 is VERY strategic; Route 23 leads straight towards Talona, which is one of Aquila’s major cities. Securing Route 23 was for their supply chains, and capturing Talona would allow them to have a supply hub in enemy territory.

  • @user-uf3tr5bp9d

    @user-uf3tr5bp9d

    2 күн бұрын

    Yeah but the way the attackers go about attacking Talona makes no sense

  • @Halfway-Stupid

    @Halfway-Stupid

    2 күн бұрын

    Indeed it is a big city, it's just the way they attempt to take over Route 23 and Talona in general is a very bad way of doing it

  • @cashas6969
    @cashas69694 күн бұрын

    The cetan marine corps landing map is great too IMO.

  • @MrMereScratch

    @MrMereScratch

    4 күн бұрын

    @@cashas6969 Yeah, especially as an Antares hiding in the boats >:)

  • @nanominator.1893
    @nanominator.18933 күн бұрын

    I remember in the lore forma was bigger than earth 12 times so the population was double to alot of people and alot of those people are in centaura

  • @MrMereScratch

    @MrMereScratch

    3 күн бұрын

    @@nanominator.1893 I’m pretty sure Cetus had around 40 million people, which is less than Germany in WWII.

  • @slendygamer1231

    @slendygamer1231

    3 күн бұрын

    Its mostly water though

  • @nanominator.1893

    @nanominator.1893

    2 күн бұрын

    @@slendygamer1231 That why i think cetus is superior if they weren't that imcompetent and used the navy manpower to help the army manpower cetus wouldn't have lost

  • @slendygamer1231

    @slendygamer1231

    2 күн бұрын

    @@nanominator.1893 Yeah true

  • @m--e

    @m--e

    Күн бұрын

    ​@@nanominator.1893I'm pretty sure communications between the navy and the army don't exist considering how much friendly fire there is from the navy💀

  • @trinhhuyvinhbao670
    @trinhhuyvinhbao67018 сағат бұрын

    Campaign idea: an Antares' assult onto an important Aqualia's outpost AT NIGHT. With a lot of spawn point for the Antares around the outpost. The Aqualian army could turn on light for their outpost for a better vision but also risk getting their supply depot and HQ to be revealed. Meanwhile the Antares army is armed with bazooka (or whatever rocket launcher in ww1), heavy satchel and tnt to either destroying the outer wall or sneak in and uses it on the objective. Aqualian got armed with player-controlled machine gun nest and flare gun to spot the Antares. Also Antares army could infiltrated the sewer for easier access, the aqualian got an enough pack of tnts to either blow up the sewer (blocked the Antares' way in but also collapsed some of the MG nest) or use it on 2 out of 5 supply truck in the spawn point to prevent the demolitionist (or the bazooka carrier), grenadier and assult from spawning. Rate this campaign chat.

  • @Kaiser_Doge
    @Kaiser_Doge5 сағат бұрын

    Here is what I think (I may get some stuff wrong): Blackton: It was a really strategic town it provided for a lot of the Corvun economy when it was seized in 1886 the Corvus economy suffered greatly so it would be vital for the Corvuns to capture to improve their economy. For Cetus it would also be vital to capture since it provided for a lot of the Corvun economy if the Cetans held it they could dig in and let the Corvun economy collapse. Kelson Village: I believe it was most likely a test of the gas or it was a small skirmish during a larger offensive. Capri Valley and Mons Planus: I agree with you I think the dev did it for gameplay. Acendence Forest: The Antares must have moved faster than the Aquilans expected so they probably found out when it was too late and couldn't occupy the whole trench. Route 23: Again I agree with you I think the dev did it for gameplay. Battery Q and Rolands Prairie: Yes, I agree with you.

  • @lildumbguy
    @lildumbguyКүн бұрын

    Mons planus could possibly be under defended, since Cetus was too busy fighting Corvus.

  • @RandomFurry07

    @RandomFurry07

    22 сағат бұрын

    It is

  • @RetroFacility
    @RetroFacility9 сағат бұрын

    Roland’s Prairie’s is one of the many fortresses in the Ring of Fire, it’s impossible to attack between the forts because of the howitzers and forests, artillery isn’t used and is out of the question because of the valuable artillery positions stationed there that could be exploited. Lastly, it’s has a similar resemblance to the Battle of Verdun. It could all just be my opinion though, anyone may share their thoughts.

  • @MrMereScratch

    @MrMereScratch

    8 сағат бұрын

    @@RetroFacility That’s what I mentioned in the video! Glad to see someone else see it!

  • @Merci_7432
    @Merci_74323 күн бұрын

    For Whitemouth Estuary, I do agree with the Officers, they would try to Conserve Manpower, Equipment, and Ships, and try to Escape to Riaa or Columba, what the Exercutis Maris did was kinda Stupid, then again, they're Marines, "Brave and Foolish.", They Basically Did A Gallipoli. I mean, they would Probably be in their 30s, maybe late 40s if they're an Officer, by the Time the Antares Imperium tried to Invade Columba. But oh well. (Why did bro Forgor about Whitemouth Anyway) RECLAIM OUR HOMELANDDDDD 🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥 Also, I believe the Final Aquilan Map (The Battle of Talona), will basically be a Stalingrad or Moscow moment, I Imagine the Imperium would Replace the Comical Amount Of Artillery With CAS. (Close Air Support, like Dive Bombing or Strafing Runs)

  • @ThePawsketeer

    @ThePawsketeer

    3 күн бұрын

    The conflict in Aquila started in 1912 so I don’t believe technology wise air support would really be used. The first bombers weren’t used until the Columban Campaign and dive bombers wouldn’t be a thing until about the Riaan, Tucanan, and Centarii campaigns. Maybe light fighter planes in the sky and light bombs, but not the type of Stalingrad you’d expect.

  • @KiiXii
    @KiiXiiКүн бұрын

    It’s meant to be a war over nothing, a battle over a small segment of land nobody cares for.

  • @RandomFurry07

    @RandomFurry07

    22 сағат бұрын

    Ehh most of the time, but I don't think capturing a coastal battery, breaching a major weak point in a defensive line or a major road hub nothing though

  • @Fancy_Schmancy0

    @Fancy_Schmancy0

    22 сағат бұрын

    Except that for Antares, it's a war over conquest and control over the entire continent. For Corvus, it's about a war of reclaiming previously stolen territory that is desperately needed to fix the economic woes of your crime and poverty ridden nation. For everybody else it's about maintaining their very existence as a nation.

  • @Ame-no-SagumeFan
    @Ame-no-SagumeFan19 сағат бұрын

    Imma use some parables here: If your a fallout player, imagine the countries as the NCR fighting itself. More bodies than bullets idea. If you are a Real time strategy or TBS player, the war is a war of attrition. Someone will give in.

  • @Bonk_atomic_punch447
    @Bonk_atomic_punch4472 күн бұрын

    Blackton was used for economic purposes and to give materials to their navy

  • @Teenhistory09
    @Teenhistory093 күн бұрын

    Keep in mind Forma is much larger than Earth and more soldiers can be fielded than in our timeline

  • @MrMereScratch

    @MrMereScratch

    3 күн бұрын

    @@Teenhistory09 Because population is not scaled, troops have to be spread thin over the much larger area. Cetus manpower is mostly in naval and Corvus is much smaller so armies aren’t giant.

  • @ace74909

    @ace74909

    2 күн бұрын

    funnily enough forma has about the same population and less land

  • @Teenhistory09

    @Teenhistory09

    2 күн бұрын

    @@ace74909 oh real?

  • @ace74909

    @ace74909

    2 күн бұрын

    @@Teenhistory09 yep. on the forma size comparison google doc some guy calculated the land and found out that forma has less land than earth, on the wiki there is also the population count of forma

  • @Teenhistory09

    @Teenhistory09

    2 күн бұрын

    @@ace74909 wow so the entire planet is just the inanis ocean.

  • @natus1
    @natus1Күн бұрын

    Ngl the mg and the armored car in this game are way too op they have ww1 mg and they fire like 20mm shells

  • @MrMereScratch

    @MrMereScratch

    Күн бұрын

    @@natus1 yup

  • @kringle7804
    @kringle780411 сағат бұрын

    im not well versed in Centaura lore but arent some of these early war stuff just like in real life id assume commanders still have that Napoleonic was mindset causing them to make tatical blunders thats my excuse for the small town maps

  • @cedricnash725
    @cedricnash725Күн бұрын

    for blacktown you do realize its a gold mine right i mean for gods sake the description is a IMPORTANT GOLD MINING TOWN not coal (im not trying to beef with u just saying it) for Kelson Village yeah i can get your point For the Trench maps its possibly because uhh idk its the only way for military vehicles to cross since im guessing the terrain is too mountainus and for mons planus you can clearly see the sheer ammount of forrests and not to mention the fact that the armored vehicles don't drive through trees unlike our era also i wonder how will our planet react when faced with the entirety of forma

  • @MrMereScratch

    @MrMereScratch

    Күн бұрын

    @@cedricnash725 It’s a coal mining town… Even the canon novel says that…

  • @cuberrt
    @cuberrt3 күн бұрын

    Honestly I find the argument of the city not being significant enough to warrant pouring loads of resources into rather invalid. The ongoing war in Ukraine is a perfect example of this. Bakhmut had little strategic value, and still both Russia and Ukraine poured tens of thousands of men into it, culminating in the second longest active battle in history (second only to Verdun), and at LEAST 40k deaths, the deadliest battle of the war (to my knowledge). The battle was purely for glory on both sides, it simply had no value beyond that. Another example is the tiny village of Robotyne on the southern front, it had less than 200 population before the war began, and still it was the main offensive point during last summer's Ukrainian offensive, of which fighting in the village lasted around 3 months, also with obscene casualty numbers. There's even a Russian counteroffensive ongoing in what remains of the village, for little reason more than deducting Ukraine's already minuscule gains during its previous offensive. There are plenty more examples from other wars, such as Stalingrad, Verdun, and so on. So to sum it up, Cetus most likely had a no-step-back mentality when it came to the war, as territorial losses would show their weakness, ultimately explaining why they put so much into defending such small settlements. I'm not exactly an expert on Centauran lore, but that's just my theory. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

  • @MrMereScratch

    @MrMereScratch

    2 күн бұрын

    @@cuberrt I am speechless. Thanks for your feedback!

  • @RandomFurry07

    @RandomFurry07

    2 күн бұрын

    Yeah that's a probable answer Propaganda is quite a powerful tool, though not strategically important now, but Mons Planus, Blackton, and maybe the forest have cultural and/or historical influences (Verdun like you mentioned is one of that) forces the countries to put a lot of manpower to those specific strategically insignificant targets to keep morale high for the soldiers so they can keep fighting

  • @Kartez228

    @Kartez228

    Күн бұрын

    What do you mean by Stalingrad?

  • @cuberrt

    @cuberrt

    Күн бұрын

    @@Kartez228 Stalingrad really wasn't that strategically important. The Germans could have attacked to cut off the Caucasus further south, say, at Astrakhan, but they went for Stalingrad because they new that if they took the city named after the leader of the Soviet Union, it would be a huge morale blow.

  • @Masteechief.
    @Masteechief.9 сағат бұрын

    Have you... played Centaura? On route 23 its pretty much just a wait until Aquila loses, I have never seen a single game where Aquila wins route 23 (maybe because they're made to lose it).

  • @MrMereScratch

    @MrMereScratch

    8 сағат бұрын

    @@Masteechief. I’ve played that map at least 30 times and Antares kept winning. That portion of the video was made also taking into account the Aquilan Artillery guns worked. Centaura is my second-most played Roblox game behind Rise of Nations.

  • @Masteechief.

    @Masteechief.

    8 сағат бұрын

    Alright, makes sense

  • @Theimperialjapan
    @Theimperialjapan2 күн бұрын

    What was 3:24 ive never seen that in game

  • @finewine1001

    @finewine1001

    Күн бұрын

    thats centaura, those guns fire on talona from the background. you cant really get to them because they're out of bounds but you can see them just barely

  • @user-whatareyoudoing

    @user-whatareyoudoing

    Күн бұрын

    ​@@finewine1001Why tell the game name though?

  • @VitalikZ-yz5qw
    @VitalikZ-yz5qw5 күн бұрын

    "no stratigic sense" Battery Q, roland praire, ascendens forest, route 23, blackton: alright, screw the commanders that planned these attacks then

  • @stoodle511

    @stoodle511

    5 күн бұрын

    Wasn't Battery Q and Roland praised in the video. Route 23: the commanders should have planned better. Blackton: it kinda does have strategic reasons if i remember being a mining town, so i'll give to that

  • @VitalikZ-yz5qw

    @VitalikZ-yz5qw

    5 күн бұрын

    @@stoodle511 "commundurs shouldhcjfjr planed buttir" if you don't like it, then leave

  • @apfelpng821

    @apfelpng821

    5 күн бұрын

    @@VitalikZ-yz5qw 'if you dont like it' is not a valid argument, Route 23 is pushing a vulnerable strategic point through an unneeded onslaught which gives the enemy an unnecessary advantage.

  • @MrMereScratch

    @MrMereScratch

    5 күн бұрын

    @@stoodle511 Yes, I did give Blackton the benefit of being a mining town. Dunno why you would use over a thousand soldiers to attack it, haha. If team sizes were smaller I'd probably like it more, but it takes away from the fun.

  • @stoodle511

    @stoodle511

    5 күн бұрын

    @@MrMereScratch I agree, but I do feel some of the soldiers wanted blackton more for historical significance

  • @ArmoxCrazy
    @ArmoxCrazyКүн бұрын

    Um actually Blackton is a rich coal mining town which is important for both sides to supply the war effort and for economy

  • @RandomFurry07

    @RandomFurry07

    22 сағат бұрын

    The problem is... The entire region of South Corvus is resource rich Blackton is probably not a massive contributor to that, since there is fiercer fighting on other towns during the start of the war

  • @ArmoxCrazy

    @ArmoxCrazy

    21 сағат бұрын

    @@RandomFurry07 oh ok, thanks for telling me that

  • @Alberto-ow6ib
    @Alberto-ow6ib2 күн бұрын

    Tbh centuara is just gameplay it’s realistic at the same time fast paced smaller maps are needed for it to be less of a running simulator

  • @KM7onYT
    @KM7onYT4 күн бұрын

  • @carbonshere
    @carbonshere3 күн бұрын

    Fighting through the forests of mon planus would be extremely fun, but alas the constricts of not enough players would make encounters with other players rarer and imbalance the game

  • @Jack897_
    @Jack897_Күн бұрын

    Blud this is actually logical. Like in real life wise too, Blackton was a waste of manpower on both sides. Kelson could actually somehow destroy like a quarter of Cetus's military. Cetus is known for being undermanned and seriously it would be a massacre. For Capri there are two possible reasons 1. One of the side probably made unfinished trenches and were forced to retreat 2. They were abandoned long ago -Mons planus is alright -For Ascandes I 100% agree -Route 23? Antareans are just stupid But hey a game is a game

  • @RandomFurry07

    @RandomFurry07

    22 сағат бұрын

    Hey, Antarean stupidity on Talona is canon

  • @Jack897_

    @Jack897_

    22 сағат бұрын

    @@RandomFurry07 REALLY? YES I CAN MOCK THEM FOR REAL!!!!

  • @nanominator.1893
    @nanominator.18933 күн бұрын

    AWW YOU FORGOT WHITEMOUTH ESTUARY

  • @MrMereScratch

    @MrMereScratch

    3 күн бұрын

    @@nanominator.1893 I might make a stand-alone video on it ;)

  • @golderhunterl9461
    @golderhunterl94615 күн бұрын

    Is this a Roblox server?

  • @Dr.KarlowTheOctoling

    @Dr.KarlowTheOctoling

    4 күн бұрын

    What like the game or video?

  • @tables8709
    @tables87097 сағат бұрын

    Okay, I’m gonna be the guy who happens to have a centaura pfp who disagrees, who would have guessed… but your entire argument is just “why didn’t they flank,” and this is just, a really bad argument because first, players already do flank, it’s how point b falls in route 23, flank points are what’s fought over in Mons Planus, but of course what you mean is a large flanking offensive which would have to sever the attacking team in half because at that point two different attacks are happening at once, and we already know that’s a horrible idea, look at Whitemouth, because you completely ignore it, most defending and attacking players spawn at their A spawns, because A is the more important objective, but you also never see anyone flank using Goldcrest as a launching point, that’s unheard of because what centaura showcases are small battles. You say Blackton has way too many people committed to it, I say that’s a pretty small amount considering the planet is almost 3 times the size of the earth.. anyway, just as your video is, just some counter argument to your claim

  • @VitalikZ-yz5qw
    @VitalikZ-yz5qw5 күн бұрын

    "Route 23 is suicide mission" Excuse me?! How the hell are we supposed to siege a city then?! Sit and watch them sit in the city?!

  • @stoodle511

    @stoodle511

    5 күн бұрын

    I haven't fully seen the story, but... Siege definition: a military operation in which enemy forces surround a town or building, cutting off essential supplies, with the aim of compelling the surrender of those inside.

  • @stoodle511

    @stoodle511

    5 күн бұрын

    so yeah, sit and watch..

  • @VitalikZ-yz5qw

    @VitalikZ-yz5qw

    5 күн бұрын

    ​@@stoodle511you don't even know the lore then

  • @MrMereScratch

    @MrMereScratch

    5 күн бұрын

    @@VitalikZ-yz5qw It's a suicide mission because you're sending tanks in without an engineering squad against terrain defenses within the range of AT guns--if the larger direct-fire artillery guns worked like they were planned to when the map was first designed, Antares would never win. It's all in the video.

  • @user-fy1tw2lo2c

    @user-fy1tw2lo2c

    5 күн бұрын

    You know like the majority of sieges in history are won by the besieged running of supplies soo yeah you could watch

  • @punishedwhispers1218
    @punishedwhispers12184 күн бұрын

    Basically; Centura Cringe, Metal Gear based

  • @MrMereScratch

    @MrMereScratch

    4 күн бұрын

    @@punishedwhispers1218 GUH

  • @carbonshere
    @carbonshere3 күн бұрын

    You can clearly tell which battles they actually cared about, and which ones just existed for the sake of pushing forward the game (hence the trench maps) One thing to keep in mind, Centaura is built off the idea of authenticity through it's lore and backed up by it's gameplay, not attempting to display a flash of realism. Sure you can widen the trench maps and such, but it would ruin the game and imbalance it. People already complain about dying to stuff out of their control (artillery strikes hitting them ever so accurately, MGs infinitely preventing them from accessing points) so why would you further make that the case? This whole video just feels un-done. The fact that "so much manpower was poured into seemingly useless areas" also seems to have no fruit to bear for it's argument. A thousand deaths? For a town? In a world-war 1 like war? That's rookie numbers. Verdun was useless, so were many others in the first world war. What makes them important is their symbolism and their place in the dominoes that are set to crash onto Cetus. Cetus wasnt "lacking manpower", but alot of it was headed to the Navy which stopped being effectively useful to the war a few years in. Cetus had manpower, but it became glaringly clear the war was not sustainable especially after 3-4 years of fighting already. So they collapsed under the pressure of a empire 4x larger than them and a hyper-militaristic state to it's north. Blackton is important because it symbolised what was taken from Corvus years ago. Their coal industry, which reckoned the Corvun economy to it's knees. It's also just on the front line in general, it's safe to assume that battles like this occured everywhere. Trenches were clearly broken quite fast into the war, and marching through on the side of a hill seems implausible considering the overall circumstances of the volatility of the war. Fighting through a forest without your supply lines also seem impractical. You could be reinforcements on trucks only simply arriving to find the other regiments both too shattered to fight, meaning you are the next wave. Even if I didnt go far to explain some of the factors in these maps, they simply explain themselves by not being necessary to constantly question for the game to seem authentic. This video is a waste of 3 and a half minutes.

  • @user-eg7jz2tg8p

    @user-eg7jz2tg8p

    19 сағат бұрын

    No ducking way.. CARBON????

  • @Jhongodman3
    @Jhongodman3Күн бұрын

    please dont use text to speech anymore

  • @diamond_tango

    @diamond_tango

    4 сағат бұрын

    🤓👆 “Erm, don’t you know text to speech is bad?”

  • @mr.battledroid2195
    @mr.battledroid21955 күн бұрын

    centaura sucks, go play dead ahead

  • @MrMereScratch

    @MrMereScratch

    5 күн бұрын

    @@mr.battledroid2195 Dead Ahead dead :(

  • @user-nf8id6di9b

    @user-nf8id6di9b

    5 күн бұрын

    oh yeah, I saw in the discord that the dev plans to revive dead ahead

  • @mr.battledroid2195

    @mr.battledroid2195

    5 күн бұрын

    @@MrMereScratch unfortunately, yes

  • @MrMereScratch

    @MrMereScratch

    4 күн бұрын

    @@user-nf8id6di9b I saw as well! Very excited to see what comes.

  • @user-nf8id6di9b

    @user-nf8id6di9b

    4 күн бұрын

    @@mr.battledroid2195 wdym unfortunately?

  • @VitalikZ-yz5qw
    @VitalikZ-yz5qw5 күн бұрын

    Everyone and me can't respect your opinion bud

  • @stoodle511

    @stoodle511

    5 күн бұрын

    No need to be that mean, it's not like the guy is screaming for realism always over gameplay, it's just some thoughts about how there are some things that could be improved

  • @VitalikZ-yz5qw

    @VitalikZ-yz5qw

    5 күн бұрын

    @@stoodle511 You're not welcome then

  • @stoodle511

    @stoodle511

    5 күн бұрын

    @@VitalikZ-yz5qw sounds like you're fun in parties

  • @VitalikZ-yz5qw

    @VitalikZ-yz5qw

    5 күн бұрын

    @@stoodle511 sounds like nobody wants you at their parties

  • @stoodle511

    @stoodle511

    5 күн бұрын

    @@VitalikZ-yz5qw Bingle bongle dingle dangle, yickety doo, yickety da, ping pong, lippy-tappy too-ta