Cecotto vs Schumacher, a DTM Tale
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DTM 1990 Final Race in Hockenheim
Hans Stuck (Audi), Johnny Cecotto (BMW) and Kurt Thiim (Mercedes AMG) have the chance to become champion.
Schumacher starting P15 cut crossed the track to hit Cecotto.
The race was red flagged and Cecotto had to restart at the back of
the grid with the reserve car.
Stuck won both headers and became Champion.
Comments by Steve Soper.
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Cecotto allways competed cleanly, was a gentelmen of the track. Great auto and moto racer and great human been. Shumi and others were capable to kill for a winning. Un justifiable.
@MrLeovdmeer
Ай бұрын
That is DTM for you right there.
When your name is the special edition of the greatest car BMW ever made 👑
Schumacher wasn't known in Germany until 1993. But I remembered those ordninary name. As a BMW fan. Schumacher was never my favourite driver but Ceccotto will always be.
@MaceoLaban
5 ай бұрын
Michael already competed in the Sports Car World Championship in 1990 and 91. Even at Le Mans in 1991. So he was already very well known in Germany. From the beginning of 1992 at the latest, he was known to all sports fans in Germany.
Great story I’ve never heard before.
Ceccoto suffered the competitive manners of Mike Schumacher and Ayrton Senna as a team mate, thats quite the achievement
@donachille3351
3 жыл бұрын
Dirty, unsportive manner
@joseromerotorrealba7720
Жыл бұрын
Competitive manners or dirt, which should have been sanctioned for him and his team. But whoever creates the laws creates the trap
@joseromerotorrealba7720
Жыл бұрын
Competitive manners or dirt, which should have been sanctioned for him and his team. But whoever creates the laws creates the trap
That looks absolutely deliberate. He takes a hard turn to the right for no reason. It looks like he was literally trying to hit him specifically.
@DuxDrive
2 жыл бұрын
And this looks like you don't have much experience in racing. He blocks tire. He knows he is going to crash into someone in front so what he does is pretty normal and what would any great driver and thinking mind would do. Which is, turn aside and try to postpone the crash as much as you can by increasing the trajectory during which time you try to slow down the car. It is not intentional, it's unfortunate.
@ripptorr
2 жыл бұрын
yeah like that was really easy, tu cut through grass at god knows what speed and then from a bunch of cars to hit EXACTLY that one. I won't argue about the Villeneuve incident mind you, but Schumacher haters gonna hate and find extra evidence to hate him more, what can I say
@ORMA1
Жыл бұрын
Asch vs Nannini...
@weallfollowmanutd
Жыл бұрын
There's no way he had that kind of skill. No one could've got the timing that spot on
Cecotto the legend 🇻🇪👋👋👋
Cecotto: great biker, great driver
@achmadfadhillah5859
3 жыл бұрын
But his son.....kinda sad
0:34 "Ich hab die Tomate jejessen mit dem Öl!"
@SGstylerSG
3 жыл бұрын
Ich als koelner habs direkt gefuehlt😂
@Creditoris
2 жыл бұрын
Hammer. 😂 Vermutlich als Erklärung dafür, warum er Cecotto weggesennst hat. 😂😂😂
@somah1470
2 жыл бұрын
@@Creditoris :D
Its very hard to tell, but I can't see his brake lights on..
Tipical Schumacher
Interesting that Schumacher was involved in so many incidents like this, DTM and Formula One. When he was rising through the ranks of Formula One, I was a big fan, however every time he was involved in situations like this, he turned me away. When others crashed into him he wanted to punch them. Yet, his own actions were much worse - Cecotto DTM and Damon Hill, both lost championships because of his arrogance and determination to win at all costs - That is not Sportsmanship. It's a shame, as he was a very talented driver.
@INDIGOBLUE555
3 жыл бұрын
Just a suggestion on the same topic: digit YT Schumacher Hakkinen Macau Grand Prix Enjoy :-) :-)
@weallfollowmanutd
3 жыл бұрын
There was one or two incidents. This is massively over dramatised. There's no way he could've aimed his car there with that perfection. He'd have to have about ten tries to get it that right.
@WaRLoKWYATT
3 жыл бұрын
@@weallfollowmanutd There's no way he could position his car with that precision? Do you even hear how stupid that sounds? It's Michael Schumacher...he can put his car anywhere he wants. You can literally watch him turn hard right into the grass. It's not as if he wore a tire down, they just started. It was completely deliberate.
@WaRLoKWYATT
3 жыл бұрын
@@weallfollowmanutd He couldn't have tried harder to specifically hit him. Watch how he turns even harder to the right and then straighten it out right as he's positioned to hit him. What are you talking about?!
@billigerfusel
2 жыл бұрын
And now he's in a vegetable state. Oh life
I watched that live. I was and I still am sure that Schumacher did it calculated. When you look at him walking away with a glimps of a smile and a proudness. I never liked him during his carrer because of that and his arrogant behaviour.
@billigerfusel
2 жыл бұрын
And look where he ended up now. I guess karma is a bitch.
@Ghibli1994
2 жыл бұрын
Same here. Never watched DTM ever again.
@sunrise560
Жыл бұрын
@@billigerfusel Ein unfassbar dummer Kommentar. Eine unsportliche Motorsport Rangelei mit dem Ski Unfall, der Schumachers Leben auf so tragische Weise verändert hat, als quasi Revanche zu werten ist so mit das Mieseste, was man in diesem Zusammenhang schreiben kann. Schämen Sie sich! Sie haben offenbar zu viel von dem billigen Zeug gesoffen, nach dem Sie sich hier benennen An incredibly stupid comment. To treat an unsportsmanlike motorsport scuffle with the skiing accident that changed Schumacher's life in such a tragic way as a quasi-revenge is one of the worst things you can write in this context. Shame on you! You've obviously drunk too much of the cheap stuff you call yourself by here (billiger fusel means cheap booze).
@billigerfusel
Жыл бұрын
@@sunrise560 Chill dein Leben, digga. Schumi war kein guter Mensch und Karma existiert.
Seems like a replay in 2021 norisring dtm final!
@joko1136
Жыл бұрын
it was also a mercedes :-)
Schumacher did show unsportsmanlike playing since his early days as a racing driver as far as we can see. This footage is showing him at work in Dtm, in addition to his F3 and F1 unfair moves.
what a taste that won Stuck
Ich saß damals auf der Haupttribüne und jeder der dort saß hat gesehen das der Mercedesjunior Schumacher nur eine Aufgabe hatte. Nämlich Cecotto abzuschießen.
@mein_nickname
3 жыл бұрын
Ach ja. Wurde das euch vom Boxenfunk gesagt?
@raveinus
3 жыл бұрын
Genauso wars . ich war auch dort
@TheVetteman86
2 жыл бұрын
Ich bin auch großer Schumacher Fan gewesen, aber das sieht tatsächlich genauso aus wie wenn ich in Forza Motorsport einen bewusst abschießen will. 🤷♂️😄
@billigerfusel
2 жыл бұрын
Und was hat er heute davon? Nun ist er Gemüse.
Leute !!! Damals waren das noch Blech an Blech Rennen mit Anbumsen und Linien Kreuzen bis es Ballert . Wenn ich an die Geilen Flugplatzrennen und AVUS Rennen so denke ? Granaten Wahnsinn war das !!! Die waren die abs Tiere in den DTM und ITC Autos die sehr sehr schwer im Grenzbereich zu fahren waren . Ich war immer Totaler Fan von den Feucht Mustangs .
"Michael, schieb ihn raus"
100 Percent calculated move by Schumi. You don't turn in the grass like that for nothing. He had the inner racing line of the corner. It is a wonder that hit Cecotto because it could also have ended in another participant hitting him. Schumi was a great driver but let's be honest, he was a tremendous cheater too. And very good with politics too.
@billigerfusel
2 жыл бұрын
Let's face it. Schumacher did lots of shit like that and lied a lot. But karma can byte your ass, even after many years.
@caspardejonge5902
Жыл бұрын
Dirty driver Schumi was
Johnny 'The Shovel' Cecotto. Michael 'Bulldozer' Shumacher. 🙈
MS is a madman. Becouse every genius is a crazy madman. Yes, i think he could do that intentionally. Because it is in his style. Dangereus, incredible, brave, calculated, MAD, CRAZY, GENIUS..
What about Pirro knocked Ludwig off in Macau Guia race 1992???
@MrReniks
3 жыл бұрын
there wasn't touch between those two
@CCP_zhongguo_sai_B
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrReniks There was. Please watch the clip closely - " 1992 Macau Grand Prix" The BMW team always knock their opponents out by using dirty tricks!
👍👍😍😍😍🦁🦁мерседес
What happend to this Schumacher guy afterwards? Did his career continue in motorsports? Probably didn't get another cockpit.
@simonhouel1984
3 жыл бұрын
He continued to climb the ladder and kept on ramming into his opponents to win championships ...
@FloydsHighHeels
3 жыл бұрын
@@simonhouel1984 He got 7 Championships and 91 wins by ramming people wow, hard to believe
@billigerfusel
2 жыл бұрын
He was also the greatest ski driver of all times. The greatest German tax evader of all times and now the greatest vegetable of all times.
@SuperFastWater
9 ай бұрын
@@billigerfuselThat is disgusting. Shame on you!
@billigerfusel
9 ай бұрын
@@SuperFastWater Shame on you for kissing his ass
The most important part is still unsolved: Why did he do it?
@TOFKAS01
3 жыл бұрын
Simple, Mercedes said he should do it.
@sunrise560
Жыл бұрын
@@TOFKAS01 he wanted Kurt Thiim (Mercedes) to win the championship. That's why Schumacher deliberately rammed Cecotto off the track. I was following the race at the time on tv. It took me a long time to respect Schumacher (again). When I see the scene again today, it makes me very angry again, Cecotto was clearly the better driver than Schumacher at that time.
Never hear this story, but this is how Schumi made his way up, that's really sketchy...
@amyasseektruth8246
3 жыл бұрын
mate, I completely understand what you are insinuating - but that is kind of harsh. You can't judge or take anything away from one race...
@Nordmore68
3 жыл бұрын
@@amyasseektruth8246 He continued cheating in F1, Benetton and Ferrari. No respect for that man.
@billigerfusel
2 жыл бұрын
And now we will never hear it because Michael is now in a vegetable state.
If anything, it looked like he was turning to avoid contact
Ob Absicht oder nicht... der lachende Dritte war am Ende Audi 😄
Did the same to Hill...stole the WC i F1. Finally...
@Jusuff
3 жыл бұрын
Tried the same trick on Villeneuve in 1997, but it didn't work that time
Schon eine komische Geschichte, hoffentlich war es keine Absicht ....
what is this from?
@JoseLuis-hf6wr
3 жыл бұрын
K. Oo
@nickryan6787
3 жыл бұрын
@@JoseLuis-hf6wr k
@lorbet2419
3 жыл бұрын
Adrenalin, BMW film
it was taken care of by Larini who beat them with Alfa 155 at their home
Salut my friend super car super video subscribe subscribe ...
I don't know about this one. It should be noted this video offers two narratives yet neither of them are from Michael himself. Furthermore, could Michael have locked up and been unable to slow for T1 due to oil on the track? This possibility appears obvious but is not offered as a possible explanation. The dramatic guilty music sells this as Michael the evildoer as well. Give me a break.
@brandspro
Жыл бұрын
The oil that every single other driver managed to avoid you mean? Or are you just another Schumacher apologist? Taken alone, maybe he gets the benefit of the doubt. Taken in light of his countless examples of dirty driving in F3, DTM, Group C, F1 he quite rightly doesn’t.
And on this day, the Schumacher-Style was born...
Ne sono sempre piu convinto che il vero re in germania era stefan bellof
@fedricolucchi5914
3 жыл бұрын
Molti non lo sanno, ma nei prototipi Frenzen e Wendligher gli stavano davanti a Schumacher.
wenn schumi dass absichtlich so geschafft hat dann hat er dafür ne Medaille verdient. das ist 1000 mal schwerer als schieb ihn raus
@1q2w3e4r5t6zism
3 жыл бұрын
Das finde ich nicht. Er hat ihn klar vor sich und kann ihn gezielt abschießen. Viel wichtiger ist doch die Frage nach dem Warum? Denn einen Grund wird er gehabt haben.
@somah1470
2 жыл бұрын
@@1q2w3e4r5t6zism Weil Cecotto gehörte zu einem Rivale-Team. Es was das einzige Wochenende als Schumacher teilnahm an den DTM-Rennen in jenem Jahr, also höchstverdächtig
@somah1470
2 жыл бұрын
Leider es scheint absichtlich zu sein. Grosse Enttäuschung
Schumacher did that deliberately in my opinion. Off course he had orders to do so, he was not a championship contender. He cost Cecotto and BMW dearly there. In my book Cecotto is and will always be the 1992 DTM champion.
@JeepGen
2 ай бұрын
1992? Do you mean 1990, right?
wow the comment section is filled with Shumi haters...
@kevin4324
3 жыл бұрын
Nah, we just saw what he was: for all his talent & abilities he was maybe the biggest asshole & foul player. No other driver had this many intentional (or not...) shoves, crashes etc like he does. Be it an order from above or not doesnt even matter.
@outhdare
3 жыл бұрын
@@kevin4324 For the foul player he has strong competition in Ayrton Senna.
Einfach mal den kompletten Kontext von Braun, raus geschnitten!!!
Was für ein Abstieg! Vom heissen Motorrad zum müden Auto.
Honestly, he never changed. 94, 97... Once a cheater always a cheater.
@SkillzorZ021
3 жыл бұрын
...'06, '10
@somah1470
2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say 1994, that was rather raceaccident
100% intentional.
Always been a dirty driver
Passt irgendwie voll zu Daimler..
Are you serious? All the people here think that Michael drove over the grass at a speed about 150-180 kilometres per hour just to crash into Cecotto? Every person who know something about racing realise that this is bullshit. No serious racing driver would take the risk from such an impact at this speed especially with the cars and safety in the past. If he hit the wrong point at the car, this can be fatal, the g force, no neck protection etc. Never never was this calculated, serious injury could be possible. Not every move from Schumacher was like a gentleman but he would never hurt some other driver to kick him out come on!
@profemeritus534
3 жыл бұрын
It was the '80s, teams sabotaged each other on a regular basis in rallycross, rally and even formula races. Tampering with cars, bribing mechanics, inciting the fans - all part of daily routine. Touring car racing was (and is still) especially dirty - so while noone thinks that corner cutting was preplanned - Michael just saw a good opportunity and he took the chance. If it wasn't him maybe another loyal Mercedes works driver would try to knock Cecotto out a few corners or laps later, it's normal that the troublemakers "hunt" for the championship contenders. Safety? Hah, these guys were sitting in 4 wheeled corpses anyways, why would they care about safety? Piquet & Briatore did it at the topmost level in 2008 in a lot more progessive era under heavy scrutiny at twice the speed.
@AK-vg6ci
3 жыл бұрын
MS is a mad man. Becouse every genius is a madman. Yes, i think he could do that. Because it is in his style. Dangereus, brave, calculated, MAD, GENIUS..
I love how the average fan (Lewis fan for example) hate Schumacher for this, but praise Senna for it
Well, it's not like Schumacher never did anything like this on purpose again and again and again and again... up to 2010, he was pressing Barrichello at the wall in Hungary. Great driver but the dirtiest of them all, ever.
So basically MS was a bad sportsman from a very young age...
That's a bad cut
Shumie is a crim...
... Schumacher war ja bekannt dafür , er gönnte es jemanden einfach nicht . Er mag alle Titeln der Welt haben , ein Champion ist er noch lange nicht .
I loved this about schumi!! The fact that he was willing to get stuck in and do what no one else was.. call it cheating if you want but I think motorsport could be fascinating with a few more of these characters.. shaking hands and playing buddies is boring.
Schumacher was always like this. I never liked him.
@dietmarduppe7560
2 жыл бұрын
YES!
Schumacher started early, to destroy the leading champion by doing stupid things. Sorry, but true...
@sebastianhermann2765
3 жыл бұрын
Not really... Schumi was driving a mercedes and the battle for the championship was between audi and bmw.... No reason for him to do that on purpuise
@villedocvalle
3 жыл бұрын
@@sebastianhermann2765 except here we have video evidence. There was no need to any of what he did. When he rejoined he did not rejoin with his car pointing in the direction of the track. The fact that he turned INTO the other car shows it was deliberate. Now stop defending proven cheaters.
@sebastianhermann2765
3 жыл бұрын
@@villedocvalle what are you talking about? You cant turn your Car on the Grass? And explain to me why he would crash him out on purpose
@villedocvalle
3 жыл бұрын
@@sebastianhermann2765 use you’re eyeballs and brain to let the moving images of this video register with you. I can’t explain someone’s idiocy. But again, there’s this video, then there’s you.
@sebastianhermann2765
3 жыл бұрын
@@villedocvalle now you are just an absolute idiot sorry.... As I can see I wont change your mind....Typical Schumi Hater....
Furchtbar, genau wegen solchen Manöver war ich nie ein Fan von Ihm.
Why do these people refrain from taking an opinion from the other side of the incident rather than making a sensationalist video, obviously plays to their agenda. Possibly a brake issue? But no... cue dramatic music and melancholic interview.
@seawolf9616
3 жыл бұрын
Well, first of all, Adrenalin is a documentary from the eyes of BMW. Second of all, I am not sure if they were able to actually ask Schumacher as the documentary was made in 2014...
@kilerscn
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but when this has happened multiple times to multiple different drivers it comes out of the realm of coincidence and in to the realm of intentional.
@Christoffski
3 жыл бұрын
Cause he was a career cheat who deliberately hit people to try and stop them winning championships. This driver and BMW whom this is a documentary from the perspective of have the right to feel like he did it deliberately whether he did or not. There's no lack of smoke here to feel like there's some fire.
@weallfollowmanutd
3 жыл бұрын
I agree. It's all dramatised bollocks. It's a coincidence that's all. Schumacher would've needed several attempts to get this right.
@predragbalorda
3 жыл бұрын
Actually Senna did this exact move, at Imola, into a wall. Yet people don't say HE did it on purpose. So many sofa racers out there...
In my eyes schumacher was an unfair driver all his career.
Don't really care either way, but it is clearly impossible to do that intentionally. Not sure how brain damaged you have to be to think otherwise.
The whole video is made to highlight Michael mistake as he was gaining anything from a crash.
Kharma is a hard mistress.
Ist dieses Verhalten damals angemessen und noch viel mehr bestraft worden? Geht garnicht.
@TOFKAS01
3 жыл бұрын
Nein. Wurde damals als normaler Rennunfall gewertet. Und in der DTM nahm man das damals allgemein nicht so genau.
It continues to baffle me why Schumacher is considered such a great driver, the greatest even... I'd say Hamilton, Senna, Clark, Lauda and Prost are all ahead of Schumacher
@goongumps
3 жыл бұрын
How about Lewis?
@daaanna9678
3 жыл бұрын
@@goongumps well he's never had to take out a rival to win a championship, he's had to race his teammates, and all of his cars have been legal
@KapitanPisoar1
3 жыл бұрын
@@daaanna9678 Lewis is definitely not better driver than Michael, he is not even in top 10...
@daaanna9678
3 жыл бұрын
@@KapitanPisoar1 why do you think that?
@DJ.V-W
3 жыл бұрын
I'd add Fangio, Ascari and Stewart to that list too. I'd say Clark was the greatest F1 driver followed by Senna, Fangio, Prost, Lauda, Stewart, Hamilton, Ascari and then Schumacher. It's all about personal perspectives though.
Aquel día al perro Schumacher le soltaron de la correa
Schumacher always a cheater
@klopferundsid4398
4 жыл бұрын
Maybe, but this accident had nothing to do with that story.
@hannesgeiger4178
4 жыл бұрын
Dom Xem win is win
@hannesgeiger4178
4 жыл бұрын
Cheating make you Smart
@mandeepdhesi3341
4 жыл бұрын
And you are always a knob.
@JonathanCecotto
4 жыл бұрын
Klopfer und Sid nothing to do? 😂 Did you watch the video?
So even before he drove in F1 he was trying to knock his rivals off the track.. smh. This is one of the reasons why both he AND Senna are not as great as Hamilton. He took a short cut to hit him because he was too far back on the road... lmfao!!
He's done too many bad things in his life that's why he's not here no more
@matthiasgrimm711
3 жыл бұрын
How dare you. Shut up kid.
@George.mk8
3 жыл бұрын
Racist him and the others they didn't let cicoto to win the championship
@benjaminrichardson4094
3 жыл бұрын
Terrible grammar, stupid comment.
@Juggernaut30
3 жыл бұрын
And why are you here anymore???
@amiqai
3 жыл бұрын
That's not how it works, lad.