Not going to lie... I can't unheard Gianni Armstrong saying "my source is that I made it the fuck up" everytime Raiden points his sword at him

@mateo335

Жыл бұрын

A world where I can say the N word without being canceled.

@traviswilliams2348

Жыл бұрын

@@mateo335 your not crazy, your just racist!

@ElliFong

Жыл бұрын

Even better is that the OG voice actor did that line too

@Kronosdoesshit

Жыл бұрын

@@ElliFong That's beautiful.

@Itachi17509

Жыл бұрын

so, thats not an actual line said in this game?

I genuinely love how Armstrong actually looks hurt when you refuse his offer

@MaxCaffie

Жыл бұрын

Man looked like he lost the election when Raiden rejected him.

@fireballofficiall

Жыл бұрын

@@MaxCaffie Bro’s reaction is the same as Mine when someone reminds the teacher of homework

@Freekymoho

11 ай бұрын

He also looks so genuinely thrilled when he thinks raiden is coming around. Raiden is basically the perfect poster child for his entire ideology, and armstrong clearly had a lot of respect for him

@hallowedbeyourdays

10 ай бұрын

Raiden said Armstrong didn't know what it was like to have to fight and kill just to survive. Armstrong didn't refute that. That's as close to admitting your opponent is correct as it gets, without saying it outright. Armstrong's point was that Raiden knew what he said was right. Armstrong, who's never been hungry and hadn't been born poor, still nailed it on the head that people with no self-determined principles of their own welcome the great ism's as their new faith. Told what to think, and obeyed. Sam, Mistral, Sundowner, Blade Wolf, Monsoon and even Khamsin all determined who they were and what they did. It was brutal and bloody and they became evil in the process of adhering to basic necessities of survival, but they all still chose their own fates. Collective Consciousness is a song that is a vicious mockery of how the weak live. It's a surrender of volition - will - that determines what is weak to Armstrong; the unenlightened masses refuse to chart their own course because being compliant is what gets them fed. But of course, all Raiden can see is the hungry and the desperate. He was subjected to exactly what Armstrong is detailing. From Liquid Snake turning him into a child soldier to signing on with Maverick Security, he followed others because that's what got him supplied. Raiden knew to his core that Armstrong was right. We see that in his resignation from Maverick, and his determination to continue the war that's still being waged within.

@PantherIsa

9 ай бұрын

​@@hallowedbeyourdaysThank you for understand the music and Steven. I think if they lived, Sam and Steven along with Raiden would be best friends. xD

I love how Armstrong just flexs on you by giving you a free 10%.

@prometheus1815

Жыл бұрын

Only for you to realise after he tears of his shirt that you didnt even deal 10% damage on him, but just his shirt. Because in the final fight he comes back with 200% HP

@unoriginal2552

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, he let you deal 10% to his shirt

@chaossnowkitsune6377

Жыл бұрын

Damn... what is his shirt made out of then? That was a lot of hits after all.

@unoriginal2552

Жыл бұрын

@@chaossnowkitsune6377 "NanoNanoMachines, son."

@weirdowithacello3481

Жыл бұрын

It's the health bar for his shirt

The fun part is that Connor actually tried to have serious discussion about what Armstrong is saying as if he was slowly being convinced.

@cobaltordinaire5219

Жыл бұрын

Armstrong really convinced Connor to vote him. wow.

@smb_64youtube5

Жыл бұрын

"Am i finally getting through?"

@nielsjensen4185

Жыл бұрын

It's the usual blue-brown alliance BS. Just because they say things you agree with it has no impact on you agreeing with the methodology. What Armstrong is advocating for is essentially Anarchy and when you have Anarchy Fascistic rule will follow shortly as due to quirks in human psychology it will always end in that the strongest rule and when no one, say a state, can provide resistance to the strong they can do whatever they want. While what Armstrong says is based nothing of what he expresses is particularly so.

@jmitanquia

Жыл бұрын

@@nielsjensen4185 Go take a nap in the park. Please. The fresh air is nice, y'know?

@nielsjensen4185

Жыл бұрын

@@jmitanquia What about what I said is in your opinion incorrect? Because phenomenologically speaking Armstrongin no way has a point. People focus too much on what is said instead of what their motivation for saying things are. If one person says, "we should do something about the ruling class," and another says the same if the former is motivated by, "it would be so much better if I was in charge," and the latter by, "so the people would have more power," then there's no way that the latter should ever work with the former even though they share a part-way goal.

God that line "The memes" sounds like a fandub, but it's actually fucking real

@Gustav_Kuriga

Жыл бұрын

That's because most people have forgotten the original definition of memes.

@JayPlusForerunner

Жыл бұрын

Welcome to MGR

@massgunner4152

Жыл бұрын

​@@Gustav_Kuriga even people that complain about memes have forgotten they still fit on the definition.

@darthrevan6

Жыл бұрын

Kojima uses the actual definition of ''memes''.

@massgunner4152

Жыл бұрын

@@darthrevan6 Kojima didn't direct this game

Even though I have never played this game before, I *love* seeing people react to Armstrong.

@Pieguy3OO

Жыл бұрын

you should play it its not that long like 6 or so hours and not any of that time is wasted. Its one of the best action games ever made and every single character is cool. The Morally ambiguous story is also a breath of fresh air from good guys killing bad guys.

@murraycoleman8234

Жыл бұрын

@@Pieguy3OO I agree

@bigrubberfist2945

Жыл бұрын

Play it or I will find you

@cybertiger3

Жыл бұрын

same i wanna play it but im poor i only have a phone

@Dorian_Scott

Жыл бұрын

@@bigrubberfist2945 Well, I don't want to be found so lol.... What platforms is it on?

Armstrong has like ten minutes of screen time and he already manages to be so iconic

@shadowknight_2505

Жыл бұрын

more like 30 to be honest

@drag0fek0

11 ай бұрын

That's how much of an iconic character he is

@ShermTank7272

11 ай бұрын

I still wish a streamer could get through that part without chat erupting into various meme quotes, "BaSeD", or "gIgAcHaD". Nuance and thoughtfulness has truly been killed for mob mentality.

@GameMastersKip

9 ай бұрын

If we were given the option to switch characters at that moment don't pretend you wouldn't at least mull it over.

@Taz-ey4jl

9 ай бұрын

@@ShermTank7272How dare people have actual fun lmao.

Fun Fact: The VA of Senator Armstrong is the same VA of Mimir from the PS4 God of War game

@NoahTakai

Жыл бұрын

I could have gone my whole life not knowing that and imagining Mimir explaining to Kratos what a Meme is....

@titan133760

Жыл бұрын

@@NoahTakai NANOMACHINES, BROTHA!

@lucascoval828

Жыл бұрын

And that is awesome!

@namedrik5876

Жыл бұрын

His japanese dub VA was also the voice of Old Joseph from JoJo's Part 3 & Part 4

@funnyman10912

Жыл бұрын

@@namedrik5876 Just like Joseph, that VA gets around.

Fun Fact: In the infamous scene of Raiden punching Armstrong, you're actually damaging his shirt, not his actual body.

@timothywilcox1539

9 ай бұрын

NANOFIBERS, SON!!!

@noxic8863

9 ай бұрын

That would explain why in the final phase he has 200% instead of 100%, that wasn't his life bar, it was his shirt's

@thesnipersmith3436

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, 200 health was just too lazy, why not give extra 100 for his clothes

Conner: Why does his skin do that?! Chat: NANOMACHINES, SON!

11:38 “I really feel like a normal campaign would have done the trick.” That’s comedy gold timing.

The 10% damage was against Armstrong shirt. When he takes it off he is at 100% and the name changes, so the shirt was actually "Senator"

I feel like Armstrong is the one villain that would be really cool in his off-time. He has a big heart, and the moment Raiden shows signs of _"understanding"_ Armstrong is quick to take care of him. He just wants you to see what he's trying to do, for what it is. Think freely, and he'll respect it.

@wesleywyndam-pryce5305

10 ай бұрын

has a big heart?? he's a pro war mass murdering fascist........

@megadyni7018

9 ай бұрын

What the heck? He exploited the desperados and his own men were all cyborgs, forced to join him, with their fear rendered nonexistent because of the inhibitors making them suicidal maniacs fighting with Raiden to the death. Sam was coaxed to come to his building just to get brutally defeated, monsoon joined because of severe injuries and cuz he was a psycho, he even had sundowner train children's brains to make them obedient child-soldiers for his future war-effort😂 In his free time, he casually killed people for not obeying orders and set a bounty on his gardener for making the garden in the company building japanese-style... He was absolutely insane...🤣

@PredatoryQQmber

9 ай бұрын

@@megadyni7018 We, Asians, don't call North America 'Fourth Reich' for nothing. It's an overtly fascist empire at this point and only Americans are huffing their own farts too fervently to notice. No wonder a lot of them unironically like this character, as well as dumba5$ Thanos from Marvel movies.

@Corrodias

8 ай бұрын

He shows respect to powerful people, in other words, the 1%. But he doesn't give a fuck about anyone else.

@astralguardian5930

8 ай бұрын

​@Corrodias Yeah, he respects Raiden because of the fact he had gotten himself to this point from nothing. Heck, after the fight Armstrong and Raiden have a bit of understanding of each other. They still had to fight in the end, but they know that maybe in another time another life, they could've probably been good friends or confidants.

Something that not many people seem to catch is that When Armstrong says "Come on" Raidens response is the same as Sam's response when him and Raiden fought.

I love watching people discover this fucking gold mine of a game

@shotgun_daddy-1089

8 ай бұрын

What metal gear solid is this?

@CalvinNoire

7 ай бұрын

​​​​​@@shotgun_daddy-1089 Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance

@zen_7748

7 ай бұрын

​@@shotgun_daddy-1089 It's not a Solid title. It's a spinoff called Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance.

@shotgun_daddy-1089

7 ай бұрын

@@zen_7748 thx

MEME 1. an element of a culture or system of behaviour passed from one individual to another by imitation or other non-genetic means. 2. an image, video, piece of text, etc., typically humorous in nature, that is copied and spread rapidly by internet users, often with slight variations. In this case he's referring to the first definition not the second.

@hamsterman8975

Жыл бұрын

Its definitely the second You cannot tell me Armstrong doesn't like big chungus wholesome Keanu 100

@matthewlugo2417

Жыл бұрын

💯 hes definitely using the old term

@Noobzlikeu

Жыл бұрын

@@hamsterman8975 The man saw Wide Putin and thought, "I wanna look like that."

@Taygon45

Жыл бұрын

Both in the fact that it's an idea passed from person to person.

@foolicooli

Жыл бұрын

The Internet was around when this game was made.. I'm leaning towards the 2nd

I think the scary thing about Armstrong is that the things he says are outlandish, but not entirely implausible.

@FierceDeity35

Жыл бұрын

We all feel that way, but we can't say it.

@FemboyHasu

11 ай бұрын

Well some of his goals are noble but means he wants to use to get there are wrong.

@user-ut4tk4ph5z

11 ай бұрын

​@@FemboyHasu His goals arent noble lmao

@FemboyHasu

11 ай бұрын

@@user-ut4tk4ph5z SOME of his goals, like letting every man fight for himself, not some country that discards them later or where there is no biurocracy. please read more carefully next time.

@Yorushima

11 ай бұрын

​@@FemboyHasu The nobility of even that ideal's a bit questionable, because while it sounds great on the surface, it doesn't account for the consequences of enforcing such an ideal on the populace. Taking down bureaucracy to stop the oppression it enacts sounds great, but "letting every man fight for himself" is liable to result in an anarchy-based oppression where the strongest people kill or enslave their surroundings just because it's doable. To simplify, he's saying "I wanna do something, but the system won't let me so I'm gonna destroy the system so I can do that something and people like me can too." The nobility of that sentiment depends greatly on what that something is, and while telling "limp-dick lawyers" to f*** off sounds okay, breaking someone in two with bare hands just because you can (or rather because that someone's not strong enough to stop you from doing it)...not so much. Stuff like this reminds me of a line from an anime: "事情あってこその大義”, my translation's trash but it comes out to something like "personal circumstances create great causes." Something to think about. Other channels that do character analysis of Armstrong say something similar: not only is his means difficult to justify, but the ideal itself may be ultimately just as bad as the status quo if not worse when realized. It's easy to rally behind because people are generally obsessed with overcoming the present issues and not thinking about future issues that pop up from drastic changes such as a collapsed government. In this case, people would still suffer, you'd just be changing the who, how, and why.

A master class in how to make an unbelievably compelling villain

@icetrey8662

Жыл бұрын

Exactly and he was only in the last 10% of the game. Completely unforgettable.

@maeschder

11 ай бұрын

Definitely fun but not exactly sensemaking in anyway

@stonespicher2207

11 ай бұрын

He was just so over the top and it made him perfect.

@wesleywyndam-pryce5305

11 ай бұрын

​​@@stonespicher2207 over the top? he's an accurate depiction of the average American conservative's shit for brains political beliefs and their goals.

@-LastStand-

10 ай бұрын

Keep in mind, they did it in the final boss in his first appearence.

this game made me aware on how to google definitions of words

@dreadpiraterobertsnumba5

Жыл бұрын

It was for "unilateralism", wasn't it?

@cry-o1436

Жыл бұрын

@@dreadpiraterobertsnumba5 nah it was definitely for memes

@VV-ho8dg

Жыл бұрын

​@@cry-o1436 Wasn't the defenition of a meme explained in the game?

@bipstymcbipste5641

Жыл бұрын

@@VV-ho8dg Monsoon is my favourite of the google definitions :p

@reynauldwhistles2338

11 ай бұрын

​@@VV-ho8dgyeah but gamers and paying attention for more than a minute are mortal enemies.

Atleast Connor didn't skip these scenes lol.

@tearikitoroa3078

Жыл бұрын

That's only because chat told him not to skip any cut scenes

@awesomearsam1890

Жыл бұрын

There are people who skip the cut scenes?!?!?

@inanimatesum4945

Жыл бұрын

@@awesomearsam1890 Just something Connor does, he’s one of those monke’s who skips story stuff and questions what’s happening.

@gadoplays8478

Жыл бұрын

@@inanimatesum4945 that was frustating, the guy questioned everything senator armstrong said, didn't pay attention, didn't get the metaphors for example "wars", metal gear solid lore itself and such, then questioned everything while reading chat? he didn't even pay attention

@dean_l33

Жыл бұрын

@@gadoplays8478 That's a streamer for you. Unless they're that passionate about it most just play game as filler to interact with the audience

Strange how pissed Armstrong got when Wolf decided to fight his own war.

@nighthero7

4 ай бұрын

I think it's mostly because wording used made it seem like Wolf's ideals tell it to not interfere. Wolf was in actuality living by armstrong's view, but his wording made it seem like he was complicit in following order dogma. So for armstrong, it looks like it either lied or wasn't being true to itself. If it said: My parameters say I must live to not lose data. So I won't die completing my mission. It might have come off more clearly to armstrong.

@shinigamileo8250

4 ай бұрын

Easy, I'll replay the dialogue for you with easier words : Armstrong : "Dog, you interfere, I end you" Wolf : "I shouldn't interfere to save my memory..." A : "Good." W : "... but I do what I want." A : "Wrong answer."

@shinigamileo8250

4 ай бұрын

Easy, I'll replay the dialogue for you with easier words : Armstrong : "Dog, you interfere, I end you" Wolf : "I shouldn't interfere to save my memory..." A : "Good." W : "... but I do what I want." A : "Wrong answer."

Metal Gear Solid, the only game series to have cutscenes as long as whole episodes of TV and yet gamers still have the attention span to follow along. Amazing stuff Kojima, thank you.

@mattmccleskey9598

11 ай бұрын

Probably because kojima wanted to make movies not games

@zeothesnowwolf2937

9 ай бұрын

​@@mattmccleskey9598Kojima: "Why not both?"

@smward87

9 ай бұрын

Kojima had little to nothing to do with this game. His version of the game was scrapped in 2010. His only credit in the end was as Supervising Director. He didn't write, direct, or produce anything for it himself. It was done almost entirely by Platinum games.

@zeothesnowwolf2937

9 ай бұрын

@@smward87 I mean he pretty much made the formula for the game by creating Metal Gear. All Platinum had to do was follow it and they did so amazingly

@zeothesnowwolf2937

9 ай бұрын

We never really said he made MGR. But MGR wouldn't really exist if he didn't make MGS

I honestly cant tell the difference between the meme versions of the game and the real ones

@madmalkavian3857

Жыл бұрын

There is none. The game is legit one giant meme.

@scarletjester7831

Жыл бұрын

That's the beauty of it

@Chillipeffer

11 ай бұрын

It's simply how things are

@kurokamikage_official

10 ай бұрын

​@@madmalkavian3857the pretty meme I'd say

@SuperZergMan

10 ай бұрын

Memes! The DNA of the soul!

The CIA loved armstrong so much they followed his ideology ever since they were created

@Ake-TL

Жыл бұрын

Armstrong is anarchist

@Shy_002

Жыл бұрын

@@Ake-TLDarwinist

@spectoestis3106

Жыл бұрын

Darwarnachist

@schweinsteiger2207

Жыл бұрын

capitalist

@shadowknight_2505

Жыл бұрын

@@schweinsteiger2207 Darwinoanarchisticcpatelastic Or I HAVE A DREAM!

To be fair to Armstrong, he made excellent points in regards to american attitudes to war and ideals, and he is a compelling modern villain by using modern technology and trends: twitter and memes.

@joshuawillingham6363

10 ай бұрын

Part of the reason he's such a compelling villain is because he's largely right in his assessment of the problem. He just had a shitty solution. The systems put in place by the patriots are far from perfect, but the attempt was to create a system that, as much as possible in a very unfair world, treated people with equal value and limited the power of the strong to oppress and restrict the weak. There's no getting around that reality entirely, but they did a better job mitigating it than most countries that came before. The problem is, the system itself has been twisted into a tool of oppression, the rules currupted to benefit the powerful and restrict the freedoms of the lesser. Armstrong recognizes that, but his solution to burn it all down and keep things as an anarchy just opens the doors for a different kind of oppression. The real answer is way harder. Address the rot in the system. Pay attention and actually get involved, knowing it's risky, knowing you might not come out unscathed. Learn what's going on around you by actually going to courts, to city counsel meetings, to state senate hearings, by reading the bills and laws yourself and seeing how they're applied rather than just accepting the bullshit politicians and media feed you, and by doing your best to correct what you can rather than be one it Armstrong's distracted weaklings. It's the hardest, most painful choice, but it's the only one that gives us a chance at having something resembling a just siociety. Armstrong's anarchist reset is just trading one brand if tyrant for another.

@wesleywyndam-pryce5305

10 ай бұрын

@@joshuawillingham6363 hes not an anarchist hes a fascist please stop taking his words at face value Jesus christ. its a well written game character that has motivations for what they do and say and they can LIE.

@joshuawillingham6363

10 ай бұрын

@@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 Eh, same thing honestly. Fascists go authoritarian through government authority, anarchists go authoritarian through individual power and not having a government authority to oppose them. Different methods to obtain the same thing. Besides, you're making assumptions about the character without evidence. All we have to go on is what he did and said, and honestly I one-hundred percent believe the asshole is a social-darwinist style anarchist. He thinks he's one of the most powerful and competent people, so removing the government means he's in charge in his mind.

@cuchulainn3309

10 ай бұрын

@@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 nah bro, he's definitely an Anarchist. a world where as he says it, the laws change to suit the individual not the other way around is anarchy.

@billmaster1157

9 ай бұрын

@cuchulainn3309 I was gonna say, Armstrong is the total opposite of a fascist to the point of toxicity.

Well, excuse me as I drop an essay, I didn't really mean for it to go this long, but when I get going, it's hard to stop, and the way that Genes and Memes are explored in the MGS series is honestly one of the most fascinating parts of the series to me. _______ The theme of MGR, and Raiden as a whole, both in MGS:II and MGR, was to discuss the idea of Memetics, just as Snake was used as a vessel to discuss Genetics. When discussing Memes in this context, we don't mean "haha funny internet pictures", though those do technically count as part of what a meme is. The topic being discussed is the original definition coined by Richard Dawkins in The Selfish Gene. Memes are elements of culture which we reinforce and pass down to others through sharing. These can be songs, ideas, pictures, stories; things that resonate and in turn are modified by others and survive multiple generations. In that way these parts of culture are similar to genes, which is part of why Dawkins chose a name that rhymes with them to describe them. In a sense, Memes are the conscious expression of Genes that we choose for and reinforce through our own sharing of them. In that way they can be viewed as a somewhat deterministic expression of who we are, while also ironically being the very thing that can sway someone away from what might otherwise be a genetically predetermined path. The relationship between memes and genes is a complicated one, tied up in the language of nature vs nurture, but also in the world of globalized information. Because we spread memes at a much faster rate than ever before, we are becoming inundated with them, and as such the memes are mutating at a rate far beyond our control or capacity to really understand. This is part of why so many memes die out quickly and so few new concepts stick around: New things are thrown out into the internet rapidly, and they change and evolve in the hands of those who find them funny or interesting, until they eventually reach their peak saturation and die out/wane. This leads to a creative drought as almost nothing sticks around long enough to really build on before being forgotten for the next big thing, which leads to a feeling of being absent of any culture, as the guideposts to that culture seem ephemeral and are constantly shifting. The rant by the Patriot AI version of Colonel Campbell in MGS:II talks specifically about how memes are used to control what is deemed to be relevant information by the Patriots AI, so as to guide human evolution and to create context from the countless streams of data we share, where nothing of value is generated as a result. The Patriots believed that only through their guidance and influence could humanity hope to achieve anything beyond a slow and miserable death-spiral from being overloaded by junk information. This is important context for the battle with Armstrong, which happens after Solid Snake killed the Patriots AI in MGS IV. 4 years have passed since then canonically. 4 years of unfiltered junk information spreading out of control. Armstrong has been dealing with all of that over his head the entire time; the Patriots, his government, the state of the planet, the state of his nation, and he's fucking sick of it. To him, his ideal world is one devoid of the stupidity of the places like twitter, because he wants to return to a time where twitter is the last of anyone's concerns. He ultimately represents and puts forward several memetic ideas, mainly anarchy, consequentialist ethics, and individualist superiority, which pull from an undercurrent of distrust in our systems and their failures (displayed primarily by the forever wars engineered by the Patriots for oil and ), an unconscious selfish individual desire to fight over what we believe in and make the world we want, and perhaps one of the strongest memetic ideas we have ever had, though also one of the most dangerous; that the means of achieving your goals don't matter, only the ends do. In this we see Armstrong's hypocrisy clearly: He means to use a war to destroy the war machine. And in that moment, he also causes Raiden to falter in his ideals and principles. He too finds he is willing to do whatever it takes, no matter the means, in order to bring about the ends of stopping Armstrong and bringing about another war, even if he has to embrace revenge, hatred and murder to do it, things he told himself he would never kill over again after he came to America and met Rose. He justifies it with the line "Besides, this isn't my sword", in a testament to Sam's will, but in that moment he too is broken, as he carries over the meme that Sam passed on to him, the desire to fight and prove who is the strongest. Of course, the theme "It Has To Be This Way" is an unconscious exploration of that very reality and how in that moment, both Jack and Armstrong really are the same in that way; that even though Jack is forced to fight him, he's not doing it for some noble cause anymore, he's the same as Armstrong; he wants to win and make a better world his way, and he'll kill whoever he has to in order to do it. It was foreshadowed earlier with Monsoon as well, when he remembered the pain of the combat he was engaging in, and what it felt like, and tapped into his unconscious aggression he had been suppressing, but he didn't fully come to terms with what it meant until the final fight; that he was and is a monster, just like they are, but unlike them, he chooses to use what he is capable of to put the rest of them down so that no one else has to grow up the way he did. In that, he carries on the memes that Armstrong, Monsoon and Sam all passed through their beliefs, to him. (Possibly to a lesser degree Mistral, Sundowner and some of his former foes from MGS II & MGSIV as well) and through their interactions, he has been changed. He no longer naively believes that he and his swords are tools of justice anymore. He takes responsibility for the fact that to bring about the world he wants to see, he may need to continue to be exactly the kind of monster he was growing up, because others have no compunctions about being that same kind of monster. The only guiding principle he still holds to is that he won't willingly slay anyone innocent, which is all that serves to differentiate him from the others, and through beating them proves to be the meme that thrives most come the end of the story; a desire for peace, that eventually overcomes the selfish and violent interests of war, at least for a time. This echoes the choice of Snake to fight the determinism over his genes, that he is a clone of Big Boss who was renowned as a warmonger and general who did great and terrible things, and instead embrace what it means to live a life of his own choosing; that our choices matter far more than what's in our blood. Raiden's choice is to protect the weak, even though he was trained to be a murderous war machine, even though he likes killing, and even though he is genetically a specimen who probably is among one of the few who could ever do what he does to the level he does it, he still doesn't think who he is and what he's about is the right path for humanity. In that way he's almost an Anti-Liquid, though Liquid was fed a lie about his parentage/genetic code and believed he was cloned only out of recessive genes, despite that being shown to be untrue through dialogue with Ocelot at the end of MGS: I. In short, the series explores determinism thoroughly, and though it does not deny that who we are does come down in some way to who we came from, and that in some ways there is no changing that, ultimately it is our choices and actions regarding what we choose to believe in, coupled with our experiences, that both separate us and bind us together the most. Memes and Genes are two sides of the same evolutionary coin, and they both play a big part in who we are, but at the end of the day, it is our choices that decide our future.

@1thedanfan949

Жыл бұрын

WAIT YOUR LAST NAME!! ARMSTROOOOOONNNNNNNGGGG!!!!

@blackbird7781

Жыл бұрын

This was beautiful and perfectly summarized what people get wrong about this game. It is character development for raiden. A monster so mobody else ever has to be. Similar to how solid snake became the ultimate soldier so nobody else would have to. They both in their own ways have inherited The Boss' will. Creating peace through tough decisions and personal sacrifice for the betterment of all

@buisnessmahn6642

Жыл бұрын

You didn’t lie about writing an entire essay. That’s just impressive

@Butter_Warrior99

Жыл бұрын

Great essay.

@seanp.3091

Жыл бұрын

This is beautiful.

Top 10 most likeable villians.

@MilitarySoldierMan

Жыл бұрын

Top 5

@Cheesburger1009

Жыл бұрын

@@MilitarySoldierMan Number 1 mcdonald foot lettuce

@EXAMsystem00

Жыл бұрын

If your American, anyone that isn't doesn't like him I've seen

@omensoffate

Жыл бұрын

@@EXAMsystem00 lol

@IamB.A.D

Жыл бұрын

@@EXAMsystem00 I'm belgium I still love the villan

I love how they made memes and Twitter into plotpoints. In THE EARLY 2010s!

@Babylauncher3000

Жыл бұрын

Armstrong and Raiden are using the original definition of the word. Basically shared cultural experiences.

@dermesserschmied2997

Жыл бұрын

yeah talking about memes people forget what it really means, thinking just about funny little labeled pictures...😮‍💨

@igiczw6315

Жыл бұрын

@@dermesserschmied2997 i know, it’s just funny to hear

@dermesserschmied2997

Жыл бұрын

@@igiczw6315 thats true

@igiczw6315

Жыл бұрын

@@dermesserschmied2997 am i banned?

20:00 When Armstrong beats a dog for following his ideology (making your own path, fighting for what you believe in)

@FouLuTheChosen

Жыл бұрын

But he smiles when he cursed him.

@latemanparodius5133

Жыл бұрын

It's in line with Armstrong's ideology. In Armstrong's ideology, it's perfectly fine for those that follow it to struggle against each other. In his ideology, the strongest will be correct. Ergo... he was stronger than the mecha-pupper, so his actions are the correct path in his eyes. Besides, once the two would be dead, such things would be forgotten to history, he would think. Just another couple of casualties to the war on terror. Can't have eyewitnesses section of the cutscenes points to it.

@jase276

Жыл бұрын

@@latemanparodius5133 True but even Armstrong in the fight says "fuck philosophy I just want you dead". I'm paraphrasing but he shows his true colors when Raiden is following Armstrong's ideology and it annoys him.

@shadowknight_2505

Жыл бұрын

Well i mean he also manifested his own path by kicking the dog so its perfectly fine

@uckbritley1305

11 ай бұрын

The 2nd part of Armstrong's ideology, might makes right, dictates that he can kick a dog if he wants to. Simply because he has the power to do so. It's a bullys ideology. And even though Raiden and Armstrong are the same in the sense that they use force to carve their own path and seek their own justice, that distinction is what makes Raiden the good guy and Armstrong the bad. A small moral distinction, but one that makes a big impact

2:41 "This one is calling me a *redditor."*

My favorite reaction of all time to this fight: "Is Kojima Nostrodamus?"

@juancarlosfernandezperez6843

11 ай бұрын

Metal Gear Solid 2: predicted social media and echo chambers Death Stranding: predicted the lockdown

@karlwikman3874

10 ай бұрын

Also I will die on The Hill that Sundowner was inspired by Judge Holden

The people in chat who said "Hook em". Hell yeah.

4:17 Because the original meaning of the word meme is "an idea that duplicates and spread" (named after genes. You know, genes, memes, looks and sounds similar).

I’ve watched basically every streamer does Armstrong clip. It’s such a good scene.

I love how Revengence predicted twitter

@nightwalker174

Жыл бұрын

Twitter's been around since 2006

@viacrucishector1821

Жыл бұрын

@@nightwalker174 Predicted modern Twitter, Twitter when this was released was pretty into shit posting

Metal Gear Rising is truly one of the greatest games of all time, it's still loved, played and discussed even today and it came out 9 years ago

the only reason people laugh at the "Meme"-scene is because they paid not a single second of attention to what Monsoon said or what Kevin had to say during the Monsoon Battle. watching/reading people making a laugh out of it makes me sometimes think that Monsoon died in vain. Not to be melodramatic here but I think it is an important lecture and more than "just a meme".

@julianmarco4185

Жыл бұрын

The media who controlled or want to control the people know how powerful a joke or a meme is. Have you ever seen how ex communist countries used to insert caricature in entertainment? To the trully thick and dumb of the leading party, they believed the jokes to be real, to the people who are smart and aware of their situation, it was a huge relief for them to understand that they were not alone in seeing the complete rotten core hidden under the layer of caricature. It was a huge wake up movement in the normal people that grew and developed into a deep seeded truth: that there was something wrong with our way of being led, of being taught how to think, etc. That is why the media fears them so much. Memes are a vessel of delivering small nuggets of truth that they can't control.

@TippedScale

Жыл бұрын

Uh. Okay. Please get out.

@MariusBoss11458

Жыл бұрын

Not our fault that the word is funny

@jase276

Жыл бұрын

These are the same people who laugh at the letter 'A' or 'H2O'. They're not exactly the pinnacle of human ingenuity. Guess I can't blame them, the game gets very whacky

@Ticketman99

11 ай бұрын

@@MariusBoss11458 It's not the word itself, it's what you remember the word being connected to most commonly. What most people know as memes are simply an example of the word's true definition: "intellectual DNA" and the spreading of it(ideas, traditions, manners of speaking, even the picture+caption etc etc).

"I swore by my sword to fight for justice." "this isn't my sword." The most badass tableturn I've heard in this game.

Connordowner be like: "Maybe I'll give war a chance, chat"

Love to see him play Metal Wolf Chaos after this.

@chrma_

Жыл бұрын

Wh What

@matthewlugo2417

Жыл бұрын

That's an expensive ass game

@endlessmisery15

Жыл бұрын

@@matthewlugo2417 It got ported to Steam a few years ago, so it's much cheaper/easier to get now.

@rhysofsneezingdragon1758

Жыл бұрын

MICHEAL!

@juice6521

6 ай бұрын

And that's because...I'm the president of the GREAT UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!

The memes aside this game is actually talking about philosophy

In other words Raiden think Armstrong is so crazy he had to address it twice in one sentence.

Did anyone ever tell him that he was only doing damage to the shirt and not Armstrong at the beginning?

Armstrong was so powerful he awakend his armament haki

When raiden yell " Armstrong!!" It had the same energy whit Amuro when he yelled "Char!!"

@mohdfaismohdfais5477

Жыл бұрын

Accept this time amstrong doesnt paint his nanomachine red.

@101mrcrazyman

Жыл бұрын

TETSUOOOO

@Night_Raptor_5991

Жыл бұрын

RYOOO!

@passingrando6457

Жыл бұрын

@@mohdfaismohdfais5477 I mean, if you look closely, Armstrong's skin turns red as it's hardening, before it turns black.

Me in 2013: This dude is insane! Me in 2022: Dang he got a point though...

@unknownunknown317

Жыл бұрын

Because he does

@mistertaz94

Жыл бұрын

The greatest tragedy of MGR is that you can't actually join Armstrong

@massgunner4152

11 ай бұрын

​@@mistertaz94would you harvest child brains for lord Armstrong?

@thegalacticempire7104

11 ай бұрын

​@@massgunner4152yes.

@Emmariscobar

11 ай бұрын

Keep in mind that he planned to use *child soldiers* to start up wars in order to create a social darwinist hellhole where it's eternally the purge.

Cdawg got to play as sussy jack and fight microsoft excel and the vaccinated senator. ...Wait shit wrong video...

Armstrong is the greatest final boss in video game history the only thing that comes close is the true final boss in nier automata, but armstrong is so much fun and tests your skills at the game

@Azure9577

Жыл бұрын

The final bosses in any monter hunter game Vergil dmc3 and 5

@matthewlugo2417

Жыл бұрын

@@Azure9577 they are all fine, ill give u vergil but armstrong is just on another lvl or creativity, craziness and badassness

I legitimatley never even heard the word meme before until this game came out and i was so confused on what the hell a meme was lol.

You know, besides saying what everyone says that Armstrong is cool because he believes his own words is right from hiw own point of view, I really like that Raiden is not here to just be a verbal punching bag, he has his own point and does ideologically stand his grown, and does have some good comebacks.

Senator Armstrong is so strong he actually made Connor sit through all his cutscenes.

Still can’t believe that Alastair Duncan (voice of Mimir from God of War, and Celebrimbor from the Middle Earth Duology) voiced these absolute meme of a character

For a crazy person, Armstrong wasn't all wrong tho.

Well, if it isnt sussy jack.

@redranger807

Жыл бұрын

"Are you high?"

@bluefiregamingandcards

Жыл бұрын

@@redranger807 *”yes”*

@redranger807

Жыл бұрын

@@bluefiregamingandcards "High on American Spirit!"

NEVER FORGET That the term meme's was coined before the internet

It's unfortunate I can't experience this masterpiece twice

It sounds dumb at first, but if you look at how much memes actually shaped our world's culture in the last 20 years, it suddenly doesn't sound so farfetched.

@soggos732

Жыл бұрын

their using the original scientific definition of memes ie cultural traits that evolve like genes

@emperorfaiz

Жыл бұрын

If you look in a broader way, memes have shaped human civilization for millennia and we started to be aware of this in the last aforementioned years ago.

@reynauldwhistles2338

11 ай бұрын

​@@emperorfaizraiden turn off the game console

I like how everytime they build a mech monster it always have a roar. Like someone was paid to make that right? Like someone felt that it should have a roar.

@CommentPositionInformer

7 ай бұрын

Lol, I was thinking exactly that. Tbh, I would find much more intimidating if the sound of the machine' engine was the roar instead. Not something that makes noise to appear intimidating, but something that is so powerful that the noise of it's whirring up already sounds like a roar.

@Roach_Dogg_JR

4 ай бұрын

@@CommentPositionInformerlook up Warhammer 40k titan weapons. Titans do have war horns, but the sound of their weapons is far scarier.

Armstrong is an amazing villain.

The writers for MGRR must've been having such a blast every damn day. Hahaha

Senator Armstrong is unironically one of my favorite villains in the entire Metal Gear series.

It's kinda weird how " memes " used to be a serious discussion about propaganda and ideology up until a few months after this game was released, when it's definition became " a joke on the internet ".

@julianmarco4185

Жыл бұрын

(Looks at western media and Entertianment) hahahahahaha... no. They still see people who make memes as nazis and terrorists...

@Betrix5060

11 ай бұрын

No that mainstream definition came about well before MGR. I’d say it started early 2000’s.

@maximusstorm1215

10 ай бұрын

​​@@Betrix5060It was before that, it originates from a book called 'The Selfish Gene.' Actual memes go back a long time, well before the internet.

@Betrix5060

10 ай бұрын

@@maximusstorm1215 That's the technical definition. I'm talking about the version used by most of the interned.

4:03 LOL his voice

"What is this game?" Nothing but cheese and ham, Connor. Nothing but cheese and ham.

@DirectorOfChaos9292

Жыл бұрын

But it is DELICIOUS cheese and ham. MGR is a great game

@andyknightwarden9746

Жыл бұрын

@@DirectorOfChaos9292 oh yes, yes indeed.

I just imagine during that very brief moment before Raiden Yeets Armstrong. The Codec call guys are shitting themselves like. “Wait is he doing a thing or…”

Asmstrong is awesome

The dude playing never played mgs 2. Sad

Now all we need to see is CDawg reacting to Max0r's incorrect summary....

Nanomachines

@justsomekid5971

2 жыл бұрын

Son

@Cheesburger1009

Жыл бұрын

@@justsomekid5971 they

@Striking_Salmon

Жыл бұрын

@@Cheesburger1009 harden

@JV-km9xk

Жыл бұрын

@@Striking_Salmon in response

@TheEgo_21

Жыл бұрын

@@JV-km9xk to physical trauma

This is easily my top 1 video game moment of all time. I'm pretty sure this game killed the character action game as a genre for me since no game since this has been able to live up to this game.

@Azure9577

Жыл бұрын

Dmc 5?

@TheRedWisdom

Жыл бұрын

​@@Azure9577 I like to crank the game to ridiculous difficulties and just hit retry forever on bosses. Something with the checkpoints just made the game annoying to play that way. you would spawn far away from bosses. (at least early in the game which I played) and they keep pushing for you to use the healing and revival things. I do not want them. I'm sure it is a great game. This simple thing just made me unable to enjoy it while trying.

@Azure9577

Жыл бұрын

@@TheRedWisdom try ultrakill then You will love it

@sizzle5775

Жыл бұрын

@@TheRedWisdom I'm pretty sure DMC has an option that disables the orbs that revive and heal you.

@TheRedWisdom

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I did play without using the orbs. But when I did at least where I was at I would get the checkpoints far away from the boss and had to run and rewatch cutscenes. It really broke up the flow of the game for me. Not saying it was bad. and I didn't play it for too long. I was just unable to enjoy it in the same way I enjoyed the older games. appreciate you looking out for me :)

16:42 hey dad how as work-

Never played the game but Armstrong is my favorite character.

@DirectorOfChaos9292

Жыл бұрын

He hired four personal assassins/bodyguards to cause terror throughout the world, one of em oversees a giant facility of imprisoned children having their brains surgically removed and put into cybernetic skulls to be placed in God knows what... Armstrong is a BASTARD

The greatest speech in gaming history.

Every time I see the camera cut to Armstrong mid running his way to beat the life out of you I die laughing lol 6:55

@MariusBoss11458

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad that this got used in a similar way to "I am the storm that is approaching" fuck the hoes. Fight the/with the bros.

Armstrong: Welcome - this is my show now!

Half of the dialogue I just hear the Max0r dialogue in my head

I hope the world ready for when every politician is like this. We learn from the best

I find it incredibly clever that they power up based on who's currently "winning" the argument, until both of them devolve into their base instincts: being monsters, whether for the good of the citizens or the good of the weak, they're both just as correct and incorrect

Listening to Armstrong's voice just kept on reminding me of MIMIR HELPPPPPPPPP

I've never seen a more believeable and likable villain

Memes in this sense refer to the REAL meaning, this was made before meme was used to describe funni internet pictures, the actual definition of meme is a cultural idea that is passed along, just like Monsoon said.

@maximusstorm1215

10 ай бұрын

The word 'meme' was definitely used to describe internet pictures and stuff before this game came out. I remember discovering the word before 2010, when I made my own rage comics and stuff.

@OR56

10 ай бұрын

@@maximusstorm1215 Ok, but it wasn't as mainstream, and people still used the word in it's original meaning in 2013.

I stand by that this is the single most captivating conversation of all time.

The voices of raiden and armstrong sound weird to me cause ive seen the maxor version so much

Connor not skipping cutscenes???

Connor played the entire game with a smile on his face.

huffed too many memes, now laying flat on my stomach, body numb, head spinning, hope I make it through this

good thing im not the only one who realised what was wrong with raidens voice

I am convinced that sometimes Connor's brain melts and forgets any words except oh, my and god

Raiden was the antagonist all along.

Memes are an actual scientific term 🤓

he is 140% based. i'd vote for him any day of the week.

I can’t unhear Gianni Matragrano as Armstrong for the life of me

Meme is originally short for memetics.

0:50 why does he need 2 arms to pull himself up? why does it look so hard? i've seen him throw a sky scraper but lifting his body weight is that difficult?

I love how Raiden seemed satisfied when he avoided the punches and didn't get hit in the chin... before the haynaker had him screeching across the floor.😂

Senator Armstrong sounds like mimir

Tfw Connor doesn't know the original usage of the word "meme" and laughs at every usage of the word lol.

@maximusstorm1215

10 ай бұрын

Tfw you're only saying this because other comments do. The word meme was used like it is now well before this game came out. The fact it uses memes was funny when it first came out, I honestly have no idea why people keep saying this.

@FatalityPWN

9 ай бұрын

@@maximusstorm1215 Like other comments? The fuck are you even on about, I watched the video in full before I even looked at the comment numbnuts. Also the use of memes was definitely seen and used in a different light way before this game even existed if you actually bothered to play the previous metal gear games where it's usage didn't have have funny implications it does now.

Me when i don't hear " standing here, i realize" : (

For a big dumb action game made by a Japanese studio MGRR does a *shockingly* good job of packing in debates about almost distinctly American philosophy. Armstrong's criticism about materialism in place of faith and nationalism in place of morality is a valid criticism of both sides of the political isle in the US. Of course the game makes him the villain by taking that line of thought to the end point. Liberty to the point of lawless "might makes right" individuality.

That one day every person in this nation will control their OWN destiny. A land of the TRULY free, dammit. A nation of ACTION, not words. Ruled by STRENGTH, not committee. -Senator Steven Armstrong