Finally, a survey photographer has appeared on the vastness of KZread, who not only compares the science of color of various forms of sensors not only at the levels of sensations. Once again I look forward to your review! It's amazing that there are so few subscribers. I single out for myself cameras with a "unique", unique color, as if continuing the film color line. I don't collect many of these cameras myself. probably, the main value is not in the accuracy of the transfer, namely, in the uniqueness. Moreover, color is such an individual characteristic of perception. although about accuracy - there are also obvious moments of blue hues, for example, in many modern cameras on cmos, blue often shifts to purple, although even on old cmos from canon, for example, this was not noticed. And, that's it, in ccd from Olympus, red shades come out voluminous (which appears from red to orange), which was typical for analog prints. I hope I conveyed the idea, English is not my native language)

@ColtonMatocha

11 ай бұрын

Yes you did! I'm glad you enjoyed the review! It was fascinating to see the little details and differences between these two cameras! Color is such an important part of my work, and so I may have opened a pandora's box on this one. Now I'm thinking deeply on which camera has the right color science for my tastes! Camera brands give us a lot of specs, but color isn't one that's detailed as much.

Fantastic comparison, Colton, you put in a lot of effort! I prefer the results from the CMOS for this type of still life, definitely would be interesting to see the comparison in other shooting contexts. From what I have read on forums, somewhere in the switch from the 12 mp sensor of the EP2 to the 16 megapixel ones is when olympus did the tweak to their colour rendering. You may want to look up the 1020 rgb color profile for PEN-F, you can apply it in camera for the PEN F and EP-7 but all other OM-D cameras can apply it in post in olympus workspace as well. It really gets close to the old E-series look.

@ColtonMatocha

Жыл бұрын

Oh that's really cool info! I think just off this comparison, I'd say they did a good job of tweaking the colors to be more accurate without losing the quality of their rendering! I definitely would like to try a comparison of these two the next time I'm in the studio to see the difference in skin tones! Thanks for watching!

@luzr6613

Жыл бұрын

@@ColtonMatocha Further to that observation re the shift from the 12 to the 16... the difference between the 620 and the E5, both of which i use several times a week, is marked (to my eye, at least). I believe there's a difference in the AA, for starters. The difference is pronounced enough that, for a project i'm doing at night using the E5 (never mind why!), i shoot all my studies using the 620 (a convenient EDC), but the final image i shoot with the E5. So, same everythings, but the IQ on the 5 is superior. The point being - i wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if nothing was particularly settled (with Olympus) through that protracted period of evolution in the first decade or so of digital.

You have restored my faith in the olympus system! 🤣

@ColtonMatocha

6 ай бұрын

Oh man that's great to hear! They definitely have some of the best and most consistent color science out there. At least in my opinion!

Interesting comparison👏👏👏. My experience tells me that one of the best engines for producing colors in digital photography is Olympus. It also achieves realistic skin tones. That is one of the reasons why many users applaud the JPG produced directly by the camera. In addition, Olympus models give you the ability to make adjustments so that the color adapts to your preferences. (My digital cameras: Olympus EP1, EPL7, PEN F, EM-5 Mark II, OM5 And in the past, which I no longer have E300 and E510)

@ColtonMatocha

6 ай бұрын

Yeah the quality of the color science from this brand is hard to rival. They really have that figured out! I'm eager to see where they go now that they are OM System!

Just what I was looking for, thanks!

@ColtonMatocha

9 ай бұрын

Oh that's great! I'm happy I could help and thank you for watching!

Good test. I honestly don’t think pixel peeping much further on this exact match up isn’t necessary. But a comparison of other cameras in other situations would be fun.

@ColtonMatocha

Жыл бұрын

Yes I agree! I would love to see how skin tones compare!

The most important variable is not being controlled. The e510, as you yourself pointed out, is required. E500 and e510 both being from same era with same colour science and pixel density.

@ColtonMatocha

2 ай бұрын

It would definitely be closer but the pixel density is not the same. The sensor in the 510 is 10mp as opposed to the 500 which is 8mp. However, I feel that the fact that the results are so close between the e500 and em10 iii is even more proof that the color science is the biggest factor. If the color stays fairly similar after all that time, technology changes, and even a completely different mount, then that feels like the ultimate answer.

Thanks for the revisit. Makes me realize this subject is ripe for videos. As one of the folks that suggested company choice made more difference. These are strikingly similar, even I expected more difference than this. But it does give relevance to peoples perception of fill in brand names look. I do wonder what ones would be considered more accurate? I have a feeling the most appealing to our eye isn't the most accurate and tuned to be that way. I have an m6ii and an a7rii. To my eye canon comes out warmer ( I know many say cold for canon) while the Sony appears cold and an almost gritty look. That's of course personal perception though. All evens out in light room with raw files in the end though. Color science is really interesting

@ColtonMatocha

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I expect a lot of it boils down to personal opinion. I have an A7 iii that I find to be a wonderful camera but the colors come out so bland. It has it's uses and I can add color where needed. I find that I use the A7 for my paid work since it has a lot of tools I need, but I opt for the Olympus for my creative projects and personal use. Another person pointed out that Sony made adjustments to their color science in the newer A7 iv and A7Rv. I'd certainly love to see what that change was! DPreview also has a nifty comparison tool on their site for pretty much all the cameras they've tested!

That is fascinating. I will have to try this out with my own selection - e300, e450 and om-d e-m1 and see how the three compare!

@ColtonMatocha

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, that would be a great comparison! Especially between the e300 and e450 because they are in a similar line of cameras, but utilize different sensor types!

great comparison! I was going to suggest using the same lens on the first video before I noticed you made this second one. There are huge differences in color rendering using one camera with different lenses, I have especially noticed that when using old vintage lenses (even different variants of same lens, especially noticable with MIR and Helios Soviet lenses). Also camera sensors themselves are not everything, there is calibration on a processor side, sensor just gives you a signal that have to be interpreted. Also color filters over the pixels might be different, allowing for different wavelengths to hit the sensor, both of those can change over the year even for the same manufacturer.

@ColtonMatocha

Жыл бұрын

Yes exactly! There are quite a few variables at play which can make comparing cameras tricky. The initial test was interesting but obviously limited in its scope. This test was a lot more "fair" I'd say. Very eye opening though to say the least! Thank you for checking them out and for providing some insight!

Hey, thanks for picking up on the comments & suggestions! Very cool!!

@ColtonMatocha

Жыл бұрын

Of course! I always love getting feedback! Thanks for watching!

@thedarkslide

Жыл бұрын

@@ColtonMatocha BTW, I've got a rather large obsession with Olympus gear, I have Olympus digital cameras dating back to 1998, I would say that starting with and within the Evolt system Olympus developed a brutally consistent color science across a vast span of product generations. Your outcome did not surprise me much.

@ColtonMatocha

Жыл бұрын

@@thedarkslide That's awesome! I have a few digicams but the E300 & E500 were the two I was shooting on the most. The em10 is a new grab for me. But I am very pleased with it so far!

@ColtonMatocha

Жыл бұрын

@@thedarkslide which one is your favorite?

@thedarkslide

Жыл бұрын

@@ColtonMatocha I got a couple of favorites. The E-5 has the best build quality and ergonomics of any camera I have ever used. Everything about that camera feels right. The E-P5 is probably one of the most underrated cameras they ever made. Everything about that camera is premium - the design, the shutter (1/8000s mechanical, flash sync up to 1/320s). The white version they made is just a piece of art. The E-PM2 still is an amazing camera, the smallest Micro Four Thirds camera with IBIS and a touch screen. I guess my favorite Olympus camera is the Pen F - you would get a kick out of it as you can customize the color profiles for the RAW engine in camera to a degree that puts Fujifilm film recipes to shame. I amassed quite a few of the cameras listed above, I got two E-P5s (black model, white model), three E-PM2s, two Pen F (black model, silver model). There are still some good deals on Ebay every once in a while for the E-P5 and E-PM2 but they're getting rare. The Pen F already is a collector item with the used price creeping up to retail price. The best value camera to buy right now from Olympus is the original E-M1, I bought that when it came out, it displaced my E-5 out of my daily use rotation for a long time. I just ordered a full spectrum converted E-M1 as well, looking forward to doing IR photography with that soon.

I don’t mind either of them, Good work bring it to us,

@ColtonMatocha

6 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching! I love both these cameras! Each has it's own strength!

Good work! There's no way to control for every variable, but you got darn close.

@ColtonMatocha

3 ай бұрын

Thank you! I appreciate that!

Very nice video! I think your results were dead on for these two cameras. Let's face it - Olympus has been working on their color science for years, and one would think that improvements have been made. I would expect the first CMOS sensors were nowhere near as good as recent ones. As to the prior video, I do have a couple of thoughts. First, each lens, just as each sensor, has its own color cast. I've found significant differences between lenses from different manufacturers, even on the same camera. So, by sticking with Olympus, you've, again, helped minimize external differences. Second, I've always been a Canon shooter - I've never shot either Olympus or Sony, but there are a number of folks on the Canon forums who have moved over from Sony because they couldn't stand the colors - especially flesh tones. I'm not competent to judge this, but the color science difference between the companies is, as you found, more profound than the difference between sensors. I used to be a product photographer - I used a Canon EOS-1 DS mark ii in the studio for years. My experience was that the camera had real difficulty with accurate reds, but everything else was close enough. Reds tended to oversaturate. The end result was very pleasing most of the time, but not truly accurate, even after considerable tweaking in PS. I would also note that my different lighting setups tended to produce different color vibrance, which was odd since I was moving the lights, but not changing out lights. It was just something I had to compensate for. I don't do that type of work any more - I'm retired and just shooting art and for pleasure. All I can say is that my two new bodies, EOS-R and R7, render absolutely lovely colors - but I do often have to add just a little intensity to match the colors in my head.

@ColtonMatocha

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! Exceptionally well thought out! I agree, the first attempt at this was flawed, but the act of doing it taught me so much! I shot Canon way back in the day. Rebel t1i, Rebel t2i, and a 70d. The 70D was one of my favorite cameras! I think Sony color science has its benefits, and there are probably some folks who really like it. For my fairly saturated work though it just falls a tad short. Thanks for watching, and I appreciate the thoughts!

我认为应该用常见的自然物来拍摄样片，才能表现自然中的色彩，例如：各种不同色的水果，玻璃，金属，陶瓷的餐具，杯子，瓶子，等等，这样，无论是色彩还是质感都可以在同一个画面中查看。 In my opinion, we should take samples with common natural objects to show the colors in nature, such as fruits of different colors, glass, metal, ceramic tableware, cups, bottles, etc., so that both color and texture can be viewed in the same picture.

@ColtonMatocha

Ай бұрын

Yeah that could be a great test too! My focus was to try to make things as even and controlled as possible!

The Olympus CMOS is almost identical but it's more saturated. That's the only instant difference I see. My second camera ever was an Olympus OM1 (1978) and I switched to Nikon in early '84 with Nikon F3hp and FA bodies. There are Leitax flanges that convert Olympus Zuikos to F mount but I haven't gotten one. Are both of these cameras micro 4/3?

@ColtonMatocha

6 ай бұрын

No but it can be a bit confusing. The E500 is a 4/3 mount and the em10 iii is a micro 4/3 mount. 4/3 lens can be adapted to micro 4/3 bodies, but not the other way around.

Olympus Colour science have been praised by many users, but somehow many people say that fullframe has better colours. I am really happy with this outcome. Now I don't have to buy an E-500 for the best colours. My E-500 had some freezing problems and was replaced by an E-520 years back, when repairs didn't work out. I have to admit that my Panasonic S5 and OM-system OM-1 both can have trouble with unique and hard to define colours. I do photograph classic cars every now and then. But I noticed that some car photo's come out different than I remember.

@ColtonMatocha

Жыл бұрын

Yes the E500 and E-m10 seem to have very similar colors! The most notable difference appeared to be with Yellows. I imagine no camera is perfect which is where color adjustments become useful in post. That said, I actually prefer the colors that come out of my OMD camera as opposed to those that come from my full frame Sony camera. Are there specific colors that you find the most trouble with on those cameras?

@eelco6587

Жыл бұрын

@@ColtonMatocha from what I remember it was a Citroen CV2 that was in a not original colour which was between blue and green which turned out differently. And also a MG B that was between brown orange and red. In your example I also saw orange en yellow to be different. Most cars are also higly reflecting which makes it even harder to define the colour imo.

@ColtonMatocha

Жыл бұрын

@@eelco6587 yeah I could definitely see cars posing a bit more complexity to the situation. I wonder if there is any real consensus on best color science. I agree though that olympus is highly regarded. Though I could never afford one, PhaseOne is also regarded well as having very accurate color science.

@eelco6587

Жыл бұрын

@@ColtonMatocha I do have a spyder checkr. But haven't used it yet. Next shoot I will try it again.

I don't know if anyone or if you realize this, but it's ecd. Codec sensor was to mimic Kodachrome film which always shifted a little bit more to a golden yellow. It'd be interesting if you did a Kodachrome versus CCD and see how the colors match to that. I think that would explain what you're seeing because as a photographer using Kodachrome film, it always shifted to a golden yellow versus like something like Fujifilm that popped that we're kind of used to seeing

@ColtonMatocha

3 ай бұрын

Yeah I've heard that a few times! It would be interesting to do a comparison, but hard to keep the variables in check. Makes me wish Kodak was still involved in sensor manufacturing.

You forgot to test subjects with lots of highlights, like light sources or at sunlight reflections. The CCD sensor seem to have more softer highlights. In this controlled studio setup you don't have those reflections to test.

@ColtonMatocha

6 ай бұрын

For sure, and this was not intended to be the only video where this subject is explored. More like one experiment in a series. Or one piece of the full conversation. So there could definitely be more videos on this subject.

Olympus has always had some of the very best colour science amongst the premium brands. Indeed I prefer the Olympus colours over Fujifilm over saturated colours. The are much easier to process in post too.

@ColtonMatocha

4 ай бұрын

Yeah I have to agree there. I think if Olympus could include a larger sensor type into their lineup they could fair better in terms of market share. I love M43 but there is no denying it gets a bad rap. Would be interesting to see them break into the medium format market.

You make me have more motivation to sell my Sony A7 Mk2. Thanks.

@ColtonMatocha

5 ай бұрын

I had that camera! Not a bad camera but the battery life wasn't great for my use. What would you swap it with?

@blueskyjazz

5 ай бұрын

I have my EM1 MK2. But none of the Sony lens sines they are BIG & EXPENSIVE. Not worth to own it. Specially if I go to hike, lighter gears the better. I really would like to have someone to take over my A7 mk2. I even have the auto focus adapter for Canon as well. But don’t know who wants to take.

but also, the video processors are different, they evolve with time, and since cameras with ccd are mostly old ones it will be different processors always. For example. all the last canon video cameras with ccd-sensor ended up with DIGIC II, but the cmos EOS Rebel t2i 550D shoots video with DIGIC IV.

@ColtonMatocha

2 ай бұрын

In this case, the E500 doesn't even have video functions. Picture shooting only 😂

@SIBIRIAKcom

2 ай бұрын

@@ColtonMatocha I meant as an example. they have different processors for pictures too. I don't remember their names.

Good day Mr. Colton. I thing that is not comparable. Because diferent systems. Small olympus lenses are not comparable with bigger lenses for apsc system. And diferent quality lenses can be too. Because is not possible to compare sharpness for ccd or cmos solution. CCDsensor has diferent electronic components. And CMOS senzor has little bit problem with creep light, because some electronic makes barier to creep light! Because it is dark blue ;) And what is about colour is different curves + contrast setting each camera. And little bit different ISO sensitivity senzor. CCD senzor creep lines to line on bottom. That is reason why gummy yelow bear is orange on red paper. CMOS senzor data creep every line to bottom line parael. Thats mean more acurrate colour for yelow gummy bear on red paper. Because data from one line to another line separetly reading are more acurate than ccd. (Senzor from CCD read colour data from several lines and put to one reader together) Otherwise CMOS read every line separate. That is reason why is not so contaminate. Much more difference between CCD or CMOS is important mathematic pixel. If camera make interpolate a) linear b) bicubic c) cvadrate . Very nice video for better undestanding slightly difference between ccd or cmos. But for real difference is foveon senzor. ;) Foveon senzor makes grass sharp. Not to mud like ccd or cmos whitch use bayer mask. Very nice is function pixel shift for 100 % colour. But only for very stabil object. It is more complicate than you think ;) And from this super video is possible see two or three diference. Good luck and playing.

@ColtonMatocha

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the feedback and for checking out my video!

Thanks for the nice comparison. Lately I have been collecting cameras with Kodak sensors and using them for my creative photography. So I have one more topic to explore - compare the output of automatic mode. There is a lot to learn about the original and more modern software and work with colors. CCD sensors clearly win here, because they better simulate the "analog" look. Everything is crowned when I print the photo on paper.

@ColtonMatocha

9 ай бұрын

I don't shoot in automatic mode very often but it's certainly an area where there could be differences in computation and metering!

I should do a D60 vs D7000 video with no editing of color. I have both. If the D60 was 16mp+, I would use it as my go to.

@ColtonMatocha

6 ай бұрын

Oh yeah! I bet folks would be interested in seeing that!

@413TomaccoRoad

6 ай бұрын

@@ColtonMatocha I don't have a computer but I could put together walk around shots and photograph colorful objects and do A - B views. I have a lot of 50mm ais lenses. I wouldn't even have to change.

Curse you, Colton. Just as i'm about to finally do something productive with my day, here you are popping up to feed my addiction. 😵‍💫

@ColtonMatocha

Жыл бұрын

Yes... Come... Come towards the vibrant colors. You cannot resist them. You mustn't resist the colors. 😁

@luzr6613

Жыл бұрын

@@ColtonMatocha Colour - schmolour. I just want to eat your props.

@ColtonMatocha

Жыл бұрын

@@luzr6613 Its hard not too! My poor health!

@luzr6613

Жыл бұрын

@@ColtonMatocha Be strong, hombre. You survived Rattlesnake Gulch; Inshallah, you'll survive the Curse of the Gummy Bears. (All of which makes you sound like some sort of Spaghetti Western / 50's B-movie hero. Hang on... 'Colton Matocha'? WTF?? Weren't you the dude who played...??? ).

@ColtonMatocha

Жыл бұрын

@@luzr6613 🤣🤣🤣 a few movie titles I starred in. "Fist Full of Candy", "A Few Gummy Bears More", "The Road to Diabetes"

ccd is lacking in yellow which effects green and orange

I still see them as vastly different. The gummy bears look awful on the cmos compared to the ccd.

@ColtonMatocha

6 ай бұрын

Not as big of a difference as I expected but still a difference for sure!

@iClevre

6 ай бұрын

@@ColtonMatocha thanks for doing the color tests! I love them! Your first one inspired me to pick up the e400.

@ColtonMatocha

6 ай бұрын

@@iClevre That E400 is a real treat! Incredibly difficult to find in the states for a reasonable price as they were only sold in Europe. You'll have to snag an E500 and let us know how close they are in color!

@iClevre

6 ай бұрын

@@ColtonMatocha will do! I actually have both now and my 50mm f2 macro just arrived so I could absolutely pit the Kodak sensors against each other. Any ideas on what settings I should use?

@ColtonMatocha

6 ай бұрын

@@iClevre definitely using the same settings as much as possible. Same white balance, color profile, shutter speed, iso, etc using a tripod and keeping the conditions as close as possible.

Having sold cameras for many years, I think it is the individual color science of each manufacture that makes the difference. Olympus just seems to have the nicest colors overall of the major manufactures ( the B&W are very nice too). Sigma's are great as well but that software is just awful.

@ColtonMatocha

3 ай бұрын

Yeah after performing this test and a few others, I'm inclined to agree with you about color science being the biggest factor here. Olympus and Pentax color science on the cameras I've used have yielded the best results in my personal opinion! Thanks for checking out the video and sharing your thoughts! When you sold cameras, was there one that you thought was great, but never personally owned?

@loudogg3367

3 ай бұрын

@@ColtonMatocha I like the Pentax K5 a lot, but at that time I decided to move to Canon (Seduced by full frame). I also like the Samsung TL500 . Samsung always had some coolest features on their camera, but I guess they did not want to go head to head with Sony at the time.

@ColtonMatocha

3 ай бұрын

@@loudogg3367 yeah for a while there it seemed like Samsung was going to really enter the camera market, but I suppose they changed course.

The CCD won't necessarily be better than the CMOS. A lot of this is to do with the Colour Filter Array (CFA) that sits a top of the sensor. Try a D200...

@ColtonMatocha

2 ай бұрын

I agree. I think the majority is in the color science of the manufacturer

@stevenrobinsonpictures

2 ай бұрын

@ColtonMatocha it's more complex. If you look at the first ccds in dslrs they had better stricter CFAs. What happened was as the want for high iso came about...it was weakened to let more light through. This meant colour separation was muddied and the like. Look for true colour Kings. D200 and d60 some of the best around. More ccds tended to have a good CFA thats why they got the colour rep.

@troutriver58

2 ай бұрын

I have an old D200 and switched over to Sony system some years ago. Still think the D200 pictures I made were more colorful right out of camera, but those were processed differently and these days my Sony images benefit from modern LR and Topaz NR. I am very curious though about using the D200 more to achieve the brighter colors right out of camera.

Cobalt Image they make camera profiles for everything. I think they said the CCD having better colors really is a myth but there is something about the older colors people like more. I think your samples the CCD has a little more contrast and the CMOS there is a little more dynamic range in the shadows but its really a close call they almost look 100% the same but I would say they are more like 99% the same. There was another CCD VS CMOS test video other KZreadr did and he's a Pentax shooter and the CCD image had a little darker red and if you just screen capped the jpegs off the KZread video and brought them into Lightroom I was able to get them to match 100%. So it really is just color science and I think people just like the more contrasty more of CCD but with CMOS you get more dynamic range so the shadows and blacks are more open with CMOS. Also there are color differences with different CMOS Olympus cameras. Camera companies are always playing around with color science. Its why when I shoot a wedding I have two of the same camera models. I've seen two Leica CCD vs CMOS videos and they are outdoor test and sometimes the colors are the same and sometimes the colors are different. It just depends on what the color is.

@ColtonMatocha

4 ай бұрын

I totally agree! The color science for the specific camera/brand seems to make the most impact on the final result. I was very happy to see that this was a close comparison because I love the color I get with the Olympus E500 and now I know my Em10 iii is nearly the same! I think outside of color specifically, different sensors will have different contrast, exposure "evenness", and dynamic range which can also impact the perception of the colors but then can easily be adjusted in the edit. It was a fun little comparison to do and much better than my previous attempt 🤣 Thanks for watching and sharing some info with us!

it would be good to leave RAW files to download , YT has 8 bit color and those RAWs are at least 12bit , needless to say who knows what profile YT does for video , so there is no way to tell what we prefer when we did not see the image . I know this because im a color mad man and a family photographer so i share images , and i constantly look at images that i have sent to people on their devices and platforms , and there is massive difference , massive to us , they are used to Smartphone cameras and they dont care , but we do , im not a pixel counter , but i am in to color a lot , and that brought me to this video for the 2nd time , but as i say i didn't see anything , i use Samsung UD970 its a PLS panel calibrated in to 24 individual zones with true 10 bit color space , 100% Adobe RGB . Now that is massively better device to look at images , then YT videos , and given RAWs that would be possible , what i am looking at now , is your video capture codec , color space and stuff , then Adobe premier i guess , then export from it to another format , then uploaded to YT at 8 bit i think , and who knows what color space probably RGB . So you just can see it , and what wee see is not what was shot . Hence the need for RAW file , 2 of them some 80MB im sure there is space for it on G drive or something .

@ColtonMatocha

10 ай бұрын

Yeah that's not a bad idea! And I can see how that would be helpful! I'll give it some thought today as to what method of storage will work best for my specific situation!

Live mos has a look in between ccd and cmos

@intraw831

Ай бұрын

A more organic/film like color rendition

@ColtonMatocha

Ай бұрын

That would be interesting to test out someday!

@ColtonMatocha

Ай бұрын

Sounds pretty appealing! I'll have to keep my eyes peeled

Not gonna lie but Olympus mirrorless color is so much better than Sony.

@ColtonMatocha

Жыл бұрын

Dude seriously! I kinda have the itch to ditch all my Sony gear because of the colors I get from the e500 and now the E-m10. Sony seems so bland now.

@GlaciaDay

Жыл бұрын

@@ColtonMatochaNewer Sonys are way better (A7IV and A7RV) but before that is a huge meh for me. I don't want to go through the whole color correcting process for my daily life shots. And Sony cameras just won't li\et me do that.

@ColtonMatocha

Жыл бұрын

@@GlaciaDay I heard someone recently mention an improved color science in the new ones, but I hadn't seen anything personally from that. I have a friend with an A7RV so I'll have to hit him up for a color comparison at some point!

@GlaciaDay

Жыл бұрын

@@ColtonMatocha A7RV has improved a lot when it comes to color science and image stabilization, which is the major weak point of all Sony mirrorless cameras (SLRs did surprisingly well for some reason, A99II was quite decent in color and image stab).

@ColtonMatocha

Жыл бұрын

@@GlaciaDay yes the stabilization leaves something to be desired. Especially on my A6400 where there is no stabilization at all and the OSS barely offers any help!

An e510 would have cost you 50 bucks to do this video right.

@ColtonMatocha

5 ай бұрын

Could be a future video, but I think this video was still done fine

@ml.2770

5 ай бұрын

@@ColtonMatocha If fine is good enough for you. 😉

@Mme.Swisstella

2 ай бұрын

E500 @ 8mp. Omdem10iii @ 16mp. And the two cameras are from different eras.​@@ColtonMatocha

@ColtonMatocha

2 ай бұрын

@@Mme.Swisstella Right, the pixel density isn't going to be the same regardless of the camera. More importantly, the fact that they aren't even from the same era and still have virtually the same color science speaks volumes about how color science plays a larger part than sensor type.

@Mme.Swisstella

2 ай бұрын

@@ColtonMatocha e500 @ 8mp. E510 @ 10mp.

I think there's way more to it than the sensor types. Software hardware the age of the camera how they handle white balance etc.. I admire your effort but I think it's an impossible task. There are huge differences in the way cameras from model to model even with the same type of sensor handle color. Is there a difference in these type of sensors and how they affect the photos? Absolutely. The sensor type is only part of the equation.

@ColtonMatocha

5 ай бұрын

Totally agree. I feel that this test compared to previous ones I've done really demonstrated that point to me. I think manufacturers color science probably plays a pretty significant role as well. And of course, many other factors are also at play.

lightroom gives poor colour quality, All images looks more yellow and there is a lack of magenta in the image. Like the image contains less colours, Less bitdepth, but it is good in the highlights, where is capture one is much better in colours, it is worse at highlights. I use Canon and when I don't have to calibrate the colours I prefer the canon software, because those colours look the best. When I shoot portrait or other subjects where the skintone do have to be right. I use capture one, because I can use that software with my calibration card. When I do that with lightroom some weird banding effects are happening. So I really dislike lightroom.

@ColtonMatocha

6 ай бұрын

Oh wow, I've never experienced that issue on my end, but I'll keep an eye out for it. Capture one is a great software as well!

Ccd is king

@ColtonMatocha

4 ай бұрын

Yes!