"That's what you get for wanting to play with non-confrontational people." Wife wins one internet. XD

There is no possible justification for a railroaded PC death. That DM is just awful.

@mojpiesto

Жыл бұрын

I disagree, the justification can be that it was planned with the player beforehand. But that DM is awful yes

@unluckyone1655

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, let the player know ahead of time and let them give the OK before. It can be done without spoilers too

@marybdrake1472

Жыл бұрын

@@mojpiesto Unless the player is involved, there is no plan, period. The move made was completely arbitrary.

Honestly, I think the "My mage hand has a will of its own" is a decent save if you want a reason for the character to stick around with the party and don't want a mulligan. You could probably build a decent side plot about how that happened and how to fix it. But, you need to work with the DM on that.

@DnDDoge

Жыл бұрын

That would be a great way to take care of the situation

@evolution031680

Жыл бұрын

I could see that if the character had been horrified by what had happened, instead of cackling like a maniac. But I guess that part could be retconned.

@idigamstudios7463

Жыл бұрын

make it either a wild magic curse or a subplot in which the PC has a dybbuk attached to them

@informitas0117

Жыл бұрын

But what about whining to the new player, who was testing the limits of this new medium, for session after session over his mistake that he didn't know how to handle?

@osets2117

Жыл бұрын

​@@informitas0117 yeah that part was ridiculous, real maturity coming from them right there

"We can't make him make a new character." YES, YOU CAN! If someone has a character that is disrespectful, disruptive, or annoying the party, you can have him either shape up or make a new character. If all else fails, kick him

@MisterRagdoll

Жыл бұрын

It sounded like he tried to shape up but got judged by that too.

Actually I kind of like the idea of "mage hand has a will of its own". That's a pretty interest idea for a character, a mage whos magic is a character in it's own right. They have no control over it and is just as surprised as anyone when it does something.

@BlueTressym

Жыл бұрын

Only up until the point where it's annoying the other players. It still amounts to "It's what my character would do," with a quirky twist.

@prinnyramza

Жыл бұрын

@@BlueTressym Of course. I don't mean playing him like an asshole. But imagine a cowardly pc with helpful magic. Like zombies approach. The warlock is panicking, "I don't want any part of this. I'm not cut out to be an adventurer. Get away!" he waves his hands. His contacted entity, invisible to all, sighs and firmly places it palm onto the back of the warlock's hand. Suddenly a firebolt shoots out of his flailing limb right through the zombie's flesh, melting its heart out from a gap in its chest. The nearby barbarian gives him a thumbs up, "Good job comrade! You're always know what spell to use." The warlock with visible tears in its eyes tries to give a thumbs up back "...you know it buddy." Just the magic babysitting the PC. The magic is the PC, the character is the npc it has to escort. It just so happens that the player also controls this "npc"

@homebrewisthebestbrew5270

Жыл бұрын

Vampire Hunter D

@prinnyramza

Жыл бұрын

@@homebrewisthebestbrew5270 that's a more literal interpretation of the mage's hand having a mind of its own XD

Had a DM who didn't like me and wanted to get closer to the girl who played our wizard. She and I worked together and got along well. I saw it coming and he killed me. Problem was three other players came with me and as I picked up everything to go home he thought it was funny... until the other three got up too. I was their ride to the game. DM tried to tell me they couldn't leave there was at least two hours left in the game. I told him, not for me. And we all left with him sitting at the table with one of his buddies who had main character syndrome. The DM asked if we were all coming back next week and everyone looked at me. I told him, nope, your game just crashed and burned.

@Medusian

Жыл бұрын

Nice! Good choice, it seems the others didn't like his bs either considering they left with you and had you make the final decision.

Honestly, if I was the DM in that mage hand story, I wouldn't have let the player do that in the first place. Mage Hand specifically says it can't be used to attack, and I don't know about you, but I think using the shove action to push a child off a ledge counts as an attack.

@realrealwarpet

Жыл бұрын

Mage hand also has a weight limit. It cant push a child.

@CraigBoykin

Жыл бұрын

Telekinetic mage hand can shove so unless theres the feat involved regular mage hand cannot definitively RAW

@PaladinGear15

Жыл бұрын

To be fair I did once pick up a rock with mage hand and dropped it onto someone's head from a great height, that's common sense that it'd do damage. But I'm pretty sure the kid didn't weigh less than 10 pounds, so he shouldn't have been able to move them.

@DM_it_All

Жыл бұрын

​@@PaladinGear15 A great height? Mage hand cannot go more then 30 ft away.

@mojpiesto

Жыл бұрын

@@DM_it_All consider they maybe were on a high ground?

For story number 3, I would just pull out that one XP to Level 3 quote. "I need you to fuck off and make a new character. That's my only response to this."

Somewhere out there a listener is thinking that in the last story how great that experience would be, because how expensive it costs to ask for that stuff at the local knocker shop. Even more expensive to get them to say oooowooo too.

@andrewdesalvatore7262

Жыл бұрын

me... i'm that one listener :P

@andreapasqua8639

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewdesalvatore7262 No judgement on my part, we all have our vices. Mine involves doing someone else's taxes as I am in a worn out singlet and boxers eating a whole bucket of KFC with an empty bucket on my head as I listen to the Spice Girls.

@andrewdesalvatore7262

Жыл бұрын

@@andreapasqua8639 i'm just starved for attention :( shy introvert who also wants to be more social... until i am social, then i wanna go back home.

@andreapasqua8639

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewdesalvatore7262 reminds me of my high school days. You want to get away from home to get quality time. Then you are out then remember why you stay home.

@minimalbstolerance8113

Жыл бұрын

Yep... That's me. Kitty ears are the stuff of heavenly dreams.

It astounds me how many weirdos behave like little children like kicking people and blocking them for not being able to play a game

Last story I feel catgirl is getting off awful light for attempting whats essentially sexual assault on OP

Mage Hand RAW is that he can’t pick up objects 10 lb or attack people with the mage hand. DM can basically tell the murderhobo that “hey, that is not how the spell work” or just “no.”

@TheRPGNerd

Жыл бұрын

Or perhaps, "you try and realize mage hand has the strength of a toddler" or something

Most of my friends agree the new player murdering the kid should have been handled by halting to make it clear to the character that this game is not a murder hobo run. Random acts of chaos would not be acceptable in the gaming world or the other player characters and actions have consequences. As this seems to be a case where the guy wanted to do stuff for the craps and giggles and is trying to salvage now he knows the table is more serious than he thought.

Mage Hand Story. That could be retconned into it's own arc. If the player really does want to, the DM could say that the character in fact didn't do it. But another, more powerful, wizard did. That other wizard could have taken over the player's mage hand with some magic item, spell, or artifact to make it look like the player did the deed. The player constantly saying his "mage hand" spell has a mind of it's own is then legit. And the player, with the party, need to find out who is doing this and why.

"Sure sure the Mage Hand made you do it! We're just going to tie you up for our own safety and bring you to the local guard so they can have their magic users fix that curse. I'll explain everything to the Judge."

Listening to the the Catgirl story, I learn about boundaries, I am going to put it out there, I had did some of the things Catgirl have done with my Druid. However, I didn't had a dm telling me to stop but I only did it once, and I ended up asking myself if it was to cringe about it? But I know now from listening that maybe I should of ask the player " Hey, I would you like it, if my character be a cat in roleplay? " " One question before roleplay, will you feel comfortable if my druid do cat things to your character? " and lastly ask " What are the things that will make you feel uncomfortable in real life before we start roleplay. " The reason I sometimes as theses questions is because I don't wish to make anyone in game feel anyhow when I get time to roleplay with them. Even tho my memory is not the best, but I will still try not to cross that boundaries of, not being a selfish ahole, or just looking over others needs as if it is not important. Afterward telling you this, I will wish to give your cats a piece of tuna for being good kitties. Thank you for your time and the video.

I would have stopped the new player from using mage hand in that way, as it can only exert 5 or 10 pounds of resistance, this isn't enough to even kill the kid. Everyone, including the DM is wrong in this instance.

Story 1 Leave and don’t look back. This DM stole all of OP’s agency to kill them off for… bad plot reason.

Had a moment where my DM killed me as our group's healer. No rolls, no checks, just a flat unsurvivable amount of damage. I can only assume this was because he liked torturing our groups monk and I did a decent keeping him alive and free of awful curses. It seems like he was just playing out his real life revenge fantasy, it's kinda sad retrospectively.

The moment the DM in the new players (husband and wife) story said they are also confrontation averse I knew something was going to go wrong. Probably best they were removed from that situation as all it would take is one forceful player demanding stupid things to ruin the entire game.

I’m still new to D&D but when this happened I was a complete noob. I had to skip a session because I was so ill, I messaged the group saying I couldn’t make it and I was so sorry. I felt really guilty for not making it. When I felt better, I messaged one of this lady that was in the campaign to ask if I was still in the group and when the next session was. She replied telling me the date and time, when I got there she told me not to worry and any DM that kicks out someone just because they had to miss a session or two is a red flag.

The DM might be planning to bring the PC back in literally the next session, and didn't think it was an issue because it's not a permadeath. The player needs to talk to the DM. Still doesn't change that the DM should have said something, but it's not always a DM just trying to off a PC.

@falxblade1352

Жыл бұрын

Maybe at first, but at some point it just becomes being a dick for no reason. Stealing your character's soul because the player wanted to keep playing? Yeah I'd be starting a petition to take over the dm seat

@AtelierGod

Жыл бұрын

It’s in the execution that it all matters and the fact that he has his soul stolen just as the wizard was about to revivify him just shows that the DM prioritized his story over letting his players play the game.

@jonathandixon209

Жыл бұрын

@@AtelierGod Oh yeah, definitely. The execution was horrible.

Pretty sure that kid weighed more than 10 pounds...

As a furry and anime fan myself, this is just plain cringe. Seriously... Although I'd love it if people were more open minded and accepting about anime in general since there's a wide variety and, in my opinion, often has better stories than modern television where every new show is just another law and order or investigator show but in another city, or just another city spin off, things like this happening is just disappointing...

@chariotboi5061

Жыл бұрын

I know right? Thinking of myself in that position makes me gag because ignoring consent is just vile.

@thehowlinggamer5784

Жыл бұрын

@@chariotboi5061 I have a personal rule going into any campaign of no forced pvp or contact of any kind against players. Game or no game, tge very fact that you would both in game and out, sexually rub or brush against someone doesn't exactly give morally stable vibes.

see in my home brew there's a race that would just up and kill that river guy. I created a table per region of consequences for murder hobos. the least bad is getting arrested.

0:50 sure, you're bound to lose. However, it sounds like OP is specifically saying that there was no chance to do anything. Even in a scenario where you're showing off the gap between you and the big bad, there are options like running away. The vibe I'm getting is that they were JUST getting beat up with no outs. When you consider how long the typical dnd session is... yeah, that's not fun. Edit: Yup, just listen to the full story that comes later, it totally sounds like what I said is the DM's "style." Lots of skipped chances to roll just to force bad things to happen to your character.

Last Story: That's some Maureen Ponderosa origins shit right there

I watch a lot of rpg horror stories, why does the dog make me feel so much better watching it?

The mage hand having will of its own sounds like interesting concept if it wasn't just player trying to get our of murderhoboing. If he was roleplaying the character being in denial of what he did, or if it actually was a curse of some sort.

Wizards of Theurgy can have just about any spell from the cleric spell list if you go about your leveling correctly.

Honestly I think the mage hand acting of its own accord is super interesting, the dm should remove it from the players spell list and make it a curse that ties into the character's story

Story 1. DM needs to go write a book.

That new murder hobo, the problem wasn't his character, it was the player. So rolling a new character wouldn't change anything. And it does not sound like he regretted murdering the child, it sounds like he only regretted being held accountable for it.

I have an experience of my own actually, thinking of it. It’s between me and like four of my irl (used to be) best friends. Out of everyone, except the DM (alongside how we were all complete starters in general, were murder hobo’s. I wasn’t, which they didn’t really like, even though we were supposed to be the good guys to kill some ice Lych that’s trying to freeze the world. Well as some time rolls by, some sessions in, which I should’ve just left as they kept trying to kill off my character with anything they could pull (my character being an ice/fire wizard that has faint healing abilities). Sooner or later, there’s nothing. Some sessions that aren’t around due to everyone having to work on Sunday which we usually had for DnD. More time goes by, I haven’t heard from them for about a month and a half or so until I finally get a message in the group chat that another sessions can be held on the oncoming Sunday (April 1st of 2023), weird how April fools is on a Sunday and of such events I had.. but what happened was, in private as one of my friends who we were working together at the time ended up having coworkers spread some false rumor about me saying he’s being real’ slow in the workplace while being around me. I never knew anything of the such and they just went on to ghost me. As soon as I responded that I actually didn’t have work this Sunday and I’m willing to come on by, I’m just told that said coworker heard some stuff and they came to an agreement on some things before kicking me from the group chat. After that happened, I was annoyed, being at work at the time and dealing with annoying customers and other things, I was actually really ticked off. I messaged my used to be coworker about what happened and apparently, right then and there, they told me about said rumor. I now became ticked off, calling them out for being petty as they apparently offed my character in the campaign due to said things. I asked them why they never came forth with talking to me sooner rather than later and it’s because they “needed some time to think and rest it over”, like that was going to help out in some sort of way. Afterwards, I was pretty much done with them. I’ve been their doormat for some time, through middle school up until we got out and to this point. Thinking of how petty they were still annoys me, even after so much I’ve done to try and help them even when I’ve been dealing with my own self as they never gave a shit about trying to really help me as I was always “self centered” in their eyes. I’m still interested in DnD a bit, but hell. I don’t think I can really trust anyone anymore with how they weren’t the first group to backstab me in such a way, hurts a ton when it’s actual people I’ve known in real life for a long while.

Hobo take responsibility you little kitty.

That creep ass doge avatar reminds me of the Cryptkeeper.

Thanks 4 all the hard work.

For murking a child? Gunna have a investigation get hella close to finding him =/ either he owns it or he fully nearly encounters consequences and gets to better himself or double down lol

I think saying he was "a bit uncomfortable" as he falls out of his chair to avoid the catgirl is a little Off the mark lol

I live for those cats....

The difference between anime cat girls from this weirdo is that generally they act just like the rest of the cast just with the ears and a tail.

In the second story, yes the DM was the a hole for not responding. HOWEVER, it's the first session, you can't reasonably expect a new campaign to risk starting a player short until an hour before the game. I would have replied, as the DM, with a required timetable and simply wished op the best of luck in a new campaign given the unfortunate circumstances. Simply blocking and moving on wasn't the right action.

Catgirl This is straight up sexual assault. Definitely should have been reported by school security

OP and Doge are gentler than me, because I’d have kicked the sorry sack of crap out of my game only after chewing him a new one. That dog don’t hunt.

I think the "My mage hand has a will of its own" could work, I mean sounds like a fun problem for the character to work against.

@saldiven2009

Жыл бұрын

Why would you ever cast it if you don't have any control over it?

@BlueTressym

Жыл бұрын

If you're doing that with that intent, yes, but that's vastly different from using it as a Get Out of Consequences Free card. Also, the other reply has a point; why would you use it if it was that troublesome? 'Rivers' is trying to have it both ways; wanting to be a murderhobo AND to claim it's not his fault. Dude, you made the character; it is 100% your fault.

Mage hand - I would create a plot point where it is revealed that the player is possessed by a malevolent entity, give them a level of Warlock, and then they can either embrace the entity and follow the warlock path, or attempt to purge it in a side quest.

Okay. While I realize there are plenty of reasonable interpretations, my initial thought at hearing "the fairy flies up and hits the dragon, so it collapses onto another character" was that we've just ventured into anime territory. Which can work, but usually doesn't if the DM has a story in mind. It sounds like the player then lost control of their saving throws and another player made the final saving throw for their character - and I'm thinking "check, you want somebody else to feel guilty they failed to save their friend." After hearing the response to the character being revivable was for random people to show up to steal their soul it's pretty clear that yes, this was a planned death to add drama and significance to the story. So while I doubt the DM was trying to punish the player, it's also clear this is something they're just going to do again. You do not shape this story, and your time might be better spent just watching TV together. [Appended] If I cast a spell, it behaved in a way I didn't expect, and killed a child... I wouldn't keep casting that spell! By all means, give this guy the chance to make a new character, but his explanation is a voodoo shark. It just raises more questions.

Story two, my crystal ball tells me the DM was an incel terribly jealous of OP havingva wife and kid, taking out his frustration on OP. Also why are DMs on discord soooo block happy? Are so scared of communication? Pretty weird for a person who is supposed to talk a lot.

I love your videos it's awesome

Mage hand story guy I would of let the event happen, and seeing the regret the player had I would have made it part of the character arc, find some way to give them a resurrection spell or go into the underworld to atone somehow. No reason for one bad moment to spoil the whole game.

First story, OP should talk to the DM first, find out where he's coming from, then decide to leave if appropriate.

There's so much nope in that last story

1st story: DM “makes sh!t up” to auto kill you, declare that in the spiritual vacuum created by the theft of your soul, your will to live is so strong that you somehow drink in the remnants of the dieing Dragon’s essence to survive. You can “make sh!t up” too. Any arguments from the DM, stating that you are not adhering to the rules, just sit quietly and stare back at them and say, “I’m just following your example. “

For the mage hand story, I'd simply shut it down right then and there. Mage Hand can not be used to attack, and shoving counts as an attack. So yeah.. no I would have shut that down REAL fast.

Happy lucky is best lucky.

No bad kitty back off our I’ll get you spade with out antiseptics.

I gotta admit the cat girl story was not the one I was expecting

@mikaneko

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if it was the same creepy girl that was featured in another horror story where someone tried doing the 'I'm a catgirl/kitsune and I'm gonna seduce this guy iRL even if he's got a girlfriend" then got kicked out of the house the group was playing in.

@ninjagregshow9423

Жыл бұрын

@@mikaneko that's one I am referring to but not the one in this video

I bet Druid from the last story was either a furry and thought op was one too, or she was a godforsaken otherkin straight outta tumblr

@catandrobbyflores

Жыл бұрын

I hesitate to ask, but what is an otherkin?

@brianvance1178

Жыл бұрын

@@catandrobbyflores people who believe that they are kin to non human and/or non real things. It’s furries on steroids that would make Russian athletes look like paragons of fair play. They believe that either they literally are something that isn’t human or isn’t real but trapped in a human form, and they come in a wide variety of stupidity: dragonkin, angelkin, demonkin, fictionkin, godkin, androidkin, wolfkin, and that’s just few of the things these mental patients believe that they are. It’s a psychosis that goes so far as to have them believe they have phantom limbs or other phantom appendages that it would be impossible for them to have had under any circumstances. I don’t think they’ve really been relevant since about 2017, but if you really want to know more about these children who literally never stopped playing pretend feel free to Google otherkin. And, brace yourself for some bs that makes transgenderism and transracialism look like fucking biological reality

@andreapasqua8639

Жыл бұрын

@@catandrobbyflores from what I understand of it, the otherkin thinks they are the soul of another creature trapped inside a human body.

@catandrobbyflores

Жыл бұрын

@@andreapasqua8639 oh God, seriously?

@andreapasqua8639

Жыл бұрын

@@catandrobbyflores Pretty much so sadly. It makes a community of people look unhinged. Kind of like how the media made people think punks, goths and emo kids where to be feared by saying they loved to abuse substances, be violent or depressed and the music was telling them to do stuff. Mind you otherkin is not limited to thinking you are some cat girl demoness trapped in a human body. It could thinking you are a D&D race, a dark brooding vampire that shimmers in the light, an alien from space or a sentient sock puppet.

I'll be honest, the cat girl story has me doubting a bit since that sounds like someone's weird fantasy rather than something that might have happened. My educational situation is weird to say the least but let's just say I've never heard of a school drama club, never mind an RPG club, that would be okay with that happening. Not to mention clubs like that tend to be observed by teachers and such if they happen on school property, and for this to be a school DND club one would assume that would be the case. Another bit that causes doubt is the description of his own character as being a "drunken barbarian" because again, I doubt the school authorities would be on board with kids even pretending to get drunk given the issues they have with teens and beer to begin with. As none of this would have flown in my day (I turned 15 in 1990s) I can't imagine what it's like more recently with all the security increases and stuff.... so I'm just not seeing it. I'll also say I have RPed some messed up stuff over the years, and I'll be the first one to tell you some of it has involved some physical demonstrations of various sorts, sometimes for comedic value. That said I have never seen a teenage girl literally get that close to a nerd they presumably do not know during a D&D game, and this is when I've played with people involved in all kinds of relationships and been the one in one myself, and also even seen a few case of gaming mara hati types where some girl sleeps her way through the group as rare as that is, and even gamed with some furries (Iet's just say I've played TMNT, Ironclaw, and the Ironclaw offshoot Jadeclaw) and I still cannot envision this happening with real people. Other than that I tend to agree with Doge, I think the DM should let the new player doing something stupid on an impulse slide. Let's just say I've done some very stupid things on impulse myself, especially when I first started. I'm not sure if I've ever truly been what would currently be called a "murderhobo" and in the old days we used to just refer to as a "hack and slash role player", but I have had my moments. I will admit a couple of times I have been "that guy" especially back then mostly when I felt some kind of RP was overcomplicating things. For example I do remember when I was playing in a version of "Desert Of Desolation" we pretty much met a tribe of nomads that were wandering around and had something I wanted (I think it was spell scrolls for my spell book) but couldn't afford, and we knew where they were setting camp. Not far away we found this temple full of evil cultist types and I was informed by those who did detection on them that they were evil, and we also heard they were robbers. They had this idol full of gems in their lair, and the PCs were insisting on being good doobies and negotiating with them. In the end I realized that for one I didn't think we could trust them, and for another they were murdering jerks who were defined as evil on general principle anyway, and finally they had money and if we killed them I could take that money (in the form of idol gems) and buy the scrolls I wanted. So when the party "face" type was pretty sure they could bribe our way through (which was going to cost us money and possibly get us ambushed) I pretty much went "fuck this crap" and lobbed a fireball into the group an started a fight. Let's just say it was not appreciated, but my attitudes were pretty much understood. I got seriously chewed out.... and hey they let me buy my scrolls so my spellbook was happy next time I had time to scry, and it meant a group of evil jerks never had a chance to ambush us later (I don't know that would have happened, but let's say it seemed like it would have been predictable given all the rumors from the nomad merchants which seemed to refer to these guys ).

Last story has an easy fix. You transfer the catgirl to my group, and I'll transfer you one of my group members. You get some peace and quiet, and I get a horny catgirl to simp over. Win-win.

Oh my fricken lord what is it with people that 'retcon victories'? FFS I've had that happen to me as a Player and it sucks horribly.. could never imagine doing that to my own Players; let them have their hard earned victories, especially if it was an encounter meant to kill. Case in point? We were told the Great Red Wyrm that was divebombing towards us was way out of our power range and that we should flee, well my Lamia Fighter is a prideful fool that decided to stay back and make a called shot to the heart when the others fled. Nat20 with a nat20 confirmation. Massive damage dealt. The wyrm failed their FORT save and was slain instantly.. only for the actual wyrm to pop out from behind a piece of cover giving a slow clap. The campaign later on went on to be a 'it was all for nothing, you can't win' scenario that retconned the past five years of sessions and made it all as though it never happened.

New favorite pass time. Listen to these stories and try to predict if doge will drop the bitchmade hammer.

i demand more kitties lol

For the mage hand story, I feel he wanted to be a murder hobo but not be labeled as one. I understand he might be new but that is not an excuse for bad behavior

(feeds the mighty Algorithmo)

First story: DM is being a jerk for killing the PC off in such a railroady way. If a dead character was needed they should have either talked about it first or just offed a popular npc instead. Third: The new player should have been given an "are you sure?" moment, possibly accompanied by an explanation of the consequences. I suspect the player may have been running off a video-game logic regard the effects of actions. The faulty mage-hand could have been a good idea if used by a more experienced and sensible player. Fourth: I kinda agree with OP's wife there. DM was certainly a jerk, but being shoddy at communicating problems, leading to rude avoidance behaviour like this, is a common issue with "non-confrontational" types of people. Fifth: Even if she did have a crush on OP she should still be told to learn boundaries.

What the hell is up with DM's retconning outcomes in games?? I guess I'm just too old and woefully unhip to current versions of The Great Game. I have retconned one...ONE game outcome and it was the only TPK I have ever had happen to my players in almost 40 years of gaming and to this day, some 30 years after it happened, I regret having done it. I wish I'd just let them stay dead, but in a rare moment of compassion because this was the very first game one of the players had ever played with my group. Anyway, you young hoodlums and your retconning stay off my lawn because I ain't reconning deaths anymore.

First story is an open and shut case of DM being a jerk. Communication and empathy are not present at all. Second story is actually the same as the first, just a different scenario. DM is kinda a jerk. Dodged a bullet there like Doge said. Third story... I might be an outlier here but it seems like OP and the others are keeping the problem alive. The player in question might be aware they messed up and is trying to find a way to work things out in his own way. Lay off and let them learn.(Glad Doge seems to agree with this though XD) Retribution is not as effective as reformation when it comes to long term enjoyment in most cases. Fourth story... Dang, on a roll with these DMs just sucking at communicating. OPs wife sounds like a good partner at least. Fifth story at least has a DM willing to kinda stand up? But yeah, people like that give furries a bad name. My bro is one and Ive met a number of them who are pretty awesome. (I'm aware she might not be a furry and could just be playing around, but associations will be made...) Boundaries, lady. That goes both ways.

regarding the Rivers Cuomo story, that kid may be new to D&D, but those actions and mentality behind it isn't. kid is a red flag.

Most of these dm have a mental age of 6

Magic reference ?

First? Aye this is the earliest I've ever been to one of these 😂

You shouldn’t use the word ghosting to describe someone who just quits you cold turkey. Sticking around longer than they should is kind of what ghosts are known for

The first story is just a hot mess. Dm should have took OP aside, discussed his plans, and gotten input from them. Otherwise, he's crippled the group effectively and left a player with a sour experience. The second story sounds like DM blocked op for prioritizing the game over family health. Either that or after the whole pandemic the DM was expecting OP to have contracted covid from his family. To the 3rd story, yeah I just think Rivers needs to own up. There's a point where a joke becomes less funny and more annoying. In the 4th story I'm kinda on and off the DM's case. In a way I can understand what happened as a lot of DM's would see not making a session a red flag but at the same time I find it stupid he accepted it BEFORE blocking them. I feel like the other players in the game were to blame given how they were nonconfrontational. And now the last story, OH THE LAST STORY, this itself is just a mistake all together. For starters, the DM is too light and should have stopped it from point A. And the "CATGIRL" needs to get a grip on reality and not try to not commit borderline molestation.

@Kennisaurus

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For the 2nd story you mean you believe the DM thought op cared more about DnD than his wife and baby? Because I could see that depending on how op phrased his message and tbh I still kinda judged op for planning to still play DnD while wife and baby are still sick.

@dragonmasterknight7

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@@Kennisaurus No I genuinely feel like the DM let panic in and might have assumed covid. I've heard how this has been a thing since 2020.

First story: That's bloody awful GMing, just deciding to kill off someone's character 'for story reasons'. Firstly, if your story relies on something like that, it's not as good a story as you think it is. Secondly, if you really think it's needed, talk to the player and explain, then come up with some way of having the death mean something, maybe also giving them some kind of minor boost to their new character in return for having to lose their first one prematurely. Mage Hand story: Yes, you absolutely can tell him to make a new character or GTFO. Maybe reading up on the Five Geek Fallacies would be beneficial. That's not even getting started on the GM letting him do it. Mage Hand can't do that. No idea why Doge is saying the player regrets the action when he's shown no remorse or accepted any responsibility. Yes, he's new, but if he's allowed to claim he's not responsible for his character's actions now, you'll be enabling him, which helps neither him nor anyone else he may game with. Put a stop to that bollocks now or watch him star in future horror stories down the line.

By essentially bullying the dude with mage hand you're ruining the PCs good time as per the arguments at the sessions and frankly if they shit continued I'd start sabotaging the party.

The girl in the thumbnail doesn't look like a catgirl.

OP should have gotten a spray bottle for that cat girl

The op who won't let go of the Mage Hand incident is being unreasonable. New player is learning about the freedom of roleplaying, takes it too far for the table, and realizes the lesson of consequences. Cool. Let him back out this one time. Continually calling out his character and making it so no one in the world wants to interact with him, feels like hazing, not a roleplay opportunity. The op is punishing him, making the game unfun over a first time rookie mistake. He almost seems like he wants to push the new player into becoming a murder hobo over a single incident.

@schwarzerritter5724

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Wouldn't be the only DM who seemingly wants a murderhobo player.

No! No comment for you!! >_>

18:50 Kinda disagree with op right here. If the guy is trying to find a narrative way to not have his character be an out right child murderer for no reason other than its funny, embrace the story! Its easy enough to retcon it as an accident and boom, the new previously described "one note" character became 2x interesting. No need to make it a bigger deal than it is.

Cringey cat-girl with boundary issues? Yeah, that sounds terrible. No one could possibly be into that. Certainly not me.....

UwU for you

If I was the DM in the magehand story, I'd let it happen. Only to have the kid come back as the BBEG

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Response to storey one . Floock you dm.

I unliked the vid so you could have 666 thumbs-up

>creepy nerds play dnd I am shocked

Story 3 everyone here sounds annoying to play with. Murderhobo for obvious reasons, but everyone else going off about the child murder you did that one time for every session and conversation your character in would honestly make me quit.

Getting kicked at random for no good reason/stupid nonsenical reason and blocked is nothing new. That shit was going on since ye olden days of RP in old chat rooms and LJ pbp posts. If you are an internet veteran, you learn to anticipate juvinile behavior even from grown adults. Move on, but not before remembering their username.

"It takes half an hour for one round" And that there is the problem with most RPGing. Combat is too slow. When I GM I give people a few seconds to make up their mind what is happening. Combat is supposed to be frenetic, chaotic and dangerous. If people cannot state their action when their turn comes around I put them on Defence until next time. I would rather slam my d in a door jamb than be sitting for half an hour for a player's turn to come around again.

I hate to say it but as someone that constantly sees people post about a online DnD game and then to see it get 20 responses in the first couple of minutes, if you can't make the first session, you are replaceable.

I'll be honest, the op of the mage hand story sounds like kinda of an asshole. It's very clear that the player regrets their choice and is trying to undo the damage, but OP keeps actively arguing with them.

I love how tldr is just 'Rivers Cuomo killed a kid'.

I'm on the side of the DM who kicked the player. You have no rapport with them. "sick son". Okay... Sure. Thanks for derailing my campaign on day zero and making up some excuse

@paulman34340

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Back to the underside of your bridge Obvious Control no one's fault part.

Oh no, I didn't get my way! You're so immature