man that was a amazing repair, never thought I would ever seen anyone using lead on a cast iron drain these days, it truly is a lost art, you are the man, steve

Another fine repair! Been watching your videos for about 8 months now. Old repair techniques forgotten about by most plumbers today.! Great repair 👍

I have not seen to many people who know how to lead pipe, if I remember correctly you said it was a lost art in one of your videos. Thank you for sharing.

@nelsonsanabria4950

4 жыл бұрын

Whyd he do that though

@eddiew2325

4 жыл бұрын

nelson sanabria ask flint Michigan

@PeteGaughenbaugh1

2 жыл бұрын

@@nelsonsanabria4950 the house is older and has cast iron pipes. He had to install a new toilet flange to the old cast iron pipe, and pouring a lead caulk joint is the correct method

@anthonyesposito7

4 ай бұрын

​@PeteGaughenbaugh1 not the only method for cast iron though, steve is just old-school.

This was a nice video Steve. My brother , and BIL are both pipped fitters. Have heard them talk about leading pipe, but never seen it done. You answered a lot if questions. I can see why people change out the cast, for plastic now. Also loved the little extra you did in cleaning up (wiping the wax up). As you showed not every contractor us as thoughtful. (The way they left the basement. ) Even if the customer says leave it. It so nice when you come in to a clean space. Thanks for a good video.

THE LOST ART OF LEADING

@eddiew2325

4 жыл бұрын

Flint thanks you for your service

Great content Steve. Always varied and interesting. Thanks for posting.

finally, some lovely crusty cast iron work! thx a lot Steve

LOL! Wife just said, You watching that value tester guy again? Thanks Steven for video!

Whew I need to replace mine when my spanner fix rots out. This looks more involved than I thought it would be. I love watching master tradesmen work.

Always enjoy watching Steve-thanks

Thats why i love cast iron flanges with rubber compression ring. Tighten all bolts in order and done. No lead. No oakum. Same finished result. Permanent leak proof repair. Part is very expensive but worth it.

@dodgerbrewtx

2 жыл бұрын

What do you do if the lead bend pipe is all bent up and out of round?

I've been watching you for years do your professional plumbing work. My worker and I cut out a cast iron lateral and replaced it with plastic. The lateral was about 6 ft long. He passed it out to me from under the building and I drug it out to the back when he said I guess I should get the grinder so we can cut it and I said no, just bring me the hammer. I gave it a quick shot and the thing just broke in half and then we broke it into several other pieces to put it in the trash can. That old cast iron pipe is really brittle and I guess you knew the pipe going up to the flange was solid because I would never bang on it that way just out of fear I might break it. You have my respect for doing this job which very few people can do now so it's on KZread where somebody who wants to know how it's done, they see it how it's done by a professional because you could have purchased a plastic unit pressed it into the pipe and screwed it down which you've done in other videos. So, thanks for putting up the history lesson for the newcomers.

Great Video, thanks for sharing, lucky homeowner to have your service, solid workmanship ! cheers !

I don't keep reminding customers how bad their situation is. Explaining it thoroughly once is usually enough.

Surprised the toilet didn’t go though the floor

@waltradcliffe4482

4 жыл бұрын

The pipe was the only thing holding it up

@MikesSoftLemonade

4 жыл бұрын

flooah

@eddiew2325

4 жыл бұрын

Brian Djordjevic didn’t even notice no punches there to roll with

NICE JOB Sir Steve!

Fascinating process!

I'm sure She knew the floor was soft, why did you have to embarrass Her by saying so many times " see this went right through! It's rotted, see this, - over and over again, " even Pissed me off!!!, Miss Molley would have been embarrassed too. I'm sure you've seen it all by now. Give the Lady a break Steve !. Have a 💗 Heart !!.

Good job Steve thank you

Seems a funny way of connecting the ol’ throne! Not wrong, just different to what we do in the UK. Love your work Steve!

@Wolfhound.

4 жыл бұрын

its just old school way of doing things now it be just a pvc pipe to the flange screwed to the floor and caller a day

@BrickTop900

4 жыл бұрын

@Wolfhound the wax ring you guys use is just weird. We have a rubber collar that the outlet of the toilet pushes into. No problem with the wax seal breaking down. The pan is cemented down, or screwed into the floor and always sealed up with silicone if not cemented

@iLikeC00kieDough

4 жыл бұрын

BrickTop900 was ring isn’t gonna leak if the toilet is secured down. If it’s moving, that’s when wax leaks.

Great job Steve 👍👍👌

Such a professional job

I'm not saying that one of those flooring layers is asbestos, but I am very glad I'm not the one doing the floor replacement.

I used to be an office manager for a plumbing company, we had a couple of men who could still make a lead bend from sheet lead. We didn't use wax seals instead we used the black foam ones and coated them with roofing cement, the seal would not break if the toilet moved.

Fascinating. Never knew about using lead.

Very profesional Super maestro

Cool, how to see it done the old fashioned way, another great video. keep them going.

Surprised Steve didn't fall thru the floor on this job. Wowza!

I was just waiting for the "You gotta smoke alahm in the house" lol

@lance16O1

4 жыл бұрын

"I thought it didn't work."

Thanks Steve for video, it was A+ First (Professional) Class Job!!

Fantastic job

In all honesty, this flange replacement if a work of art... However, about thirty seconds into Steve's "leading" the flange in, it sounded like he was playing Petticoat Junction with the chisel...

@kidalwys

4 жыл бұрын

AMStationEngineer I didn’t see uncle joe lol

Great job Steven 👍

Great Job Bro👍🏽

Why did some people give a thumbs down, that plumber in this video, is the hardest, knowledgeable worker I've seen!

@paulmonk7820

Жыл бұрын

@Jackie Starr: probably because of his foul language and unnecessary destruction. Did he clean up the mess he caused downstairs by hammering unnecessary holes in the floor?

Great to see it done right.

Pretty cool to see how you guys use to do this

Great work💯💯

You da man steve!!!

Dang Mama! Down south, we would have shoved a PVC twist and seal down that CI pipe, screwed it to the floor and been done. I love the videos man. My foreman in the 1980s taught me how to lead pipes, but haven’t done it since. You should do a video on how you learned the trade. Why do you wear gloves, haha.

@tszymk77

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, what's with the gloves?

@carlosbolanos1070

4 жыл бұрын

In case he gets melted led on his hand....safety first. 😂😂😂😂

That job came out excellent - floor and all - heavy duty flange - leaded in.

I thought this one was very interesting. I liked seeing how cast iron and lead worked. I never understand why people give a thumbs down.

@iliketakingshowers

3 жыл бұрын

Haters gonna hate

Nothing but quality here

That lead thing is eye-opening for me. Never thought that is a practice.

Wow that was a work of art I doubt at first

That was cool!

Love the old-school lead work. Oakum and smoke 'em!

You are really good l lerned alot to see it your video

Good job

2020, have many options to fix this issue, none of which require melting lead and inhaling fumes... yet here we are lol

@WojciechP915

3 жыл бұрын

You dont only get fumes if you really overheat

It takes some talent to fix that !

Somehow don’t think it was really “the next day”. Next week/month maybe to redo that subfloor and floor Great job

Damn fine job sir

Very messy job. That is how they did it 100 years ago. Today, you buy Cast Iron replacement closet ring (aka Quick Set Flange) that fits right over the pipe and tighten with 3 stainless steel screws. Installed in 10 minutes. All approved by the Code. All other stuff you are doing is time consuming, messy and completely unnecessary. I am sure you impressed the old lady and she ended up paying tons of money for your repair work. Thank you

Lol I remember watching the video when you marked the date on that pvc pipe.

The lead and oakum is the canvas. And Steve is Picasso!

Next level next level

Very nice job on that flange. They need to call Hazel to clean up the basement.

@duanewilson3941

4 жыл бұрын

Hazel? You're showing your age my friend.

@StarrTile

4 жыл бұрын

Wait !! There's a basement ??? So cutting out a foot of iron pipe, boot it and transition to pvc, 10 minutes it's done

bought some them bolts for myself,nice...i always buy calking irons at tag sales,they are easy to resell...never done lead but maybe someday,never???,,,,would be temped to screw it down first

Glad to see you did cast to cast and not a PVC flange maybe different screws thou

I'm old school use to have to cut cast iron with hammer and chisel pour joints with lead I've used deep brass heavy grade flanges on cast iron pipe poured lead around them you can solder the closest bolts to brass flange to hold them in place 😉

Why wouldn't you just use one of the Oatey PVC replacement flanges that just go inside cast iron pipe? Whats the upside of leading in a new cast iron flange nowadays?

I didn't see the Prop 65 warning sticker on that lead! The people in California are having a cow right about now! LOL

I remember you saying that you started out in the trade doing lead and oakum Steve. I wonder how long much longer those irons were when they were new? Haha! I love seeing this stuff. Real plumbing!

Great vid Steve. I got a question for you. Which one you prefer the wax ring or non wax ring for flanges? Thanks

Why do you not use the wax ring that has the self-centering plastic rings? I've been using those for a long time in my own house and had great luck with them. You can even use sealant on the bottom of them if you're unsure.

What are the benefits of using lead and oakum vs one of those cast iron closet flanges? I recently replaced an old lead sealed flange but didn’t know how to replace it with lead, so I used a new closet flange instead. Is lead more durable?

Nice lead & okam job.

I wish I could ever get an old cast iron flange off that easy

100% Better in every way than the "This Old Mansion" video.

You have the perfect smoke detector protector...your blue latex gloves.

Steve Why do you prefer using a wax ring WITHOUT a funnel versus a wax ring WITH one? What’s the difference ?

Why don’t you use the wax ring with horn? Isn’t the horn better to divert water down pipe?

Leaded or unleaded? Great video.

Suprized no one fell through while dropping a fritz mama !

@repro7780

3 жыл бұрын

😄

Arent you allowed to use a PVC flange replacement in your state . Cool to watch you do this though. Thank you

HAAHAA, Steve, thanks once again for giving me my daily chuckle when you went into the basement and started laughing about "holy shit, look at the mess he left". Thanks once again for finding the funny shit in your work and including them in your videos for all of us (your fans). Keep safe!!

Steve, I have cast iron drain pipe in my house and allways wondered how the lead joints were done! Especially on the horizontal joints.

@johnkrim8377

4 жыл бұрын

1968madmike , Horizontal ones are done right in the position there in .

@DonJosesito

4 жыл бұрын

Running rope for horizontal joints, old fashion ones are made of asbestos. Here in Chicago we still do lead and oakum joints.

@1968madmike

4 жыл бұрын

@@DonJosesito I was looking closer at my horizontal pipe joints and I could see rope cast in the lead!! Crazy!!

Steve's mobile smelting operation!

how many days later did you come back after the new floor went in? Did she have to get a new sub floor? Watching you put in a cast iron flange is amazing. The best way for sure.

Would it work if you pour silicone instead of lead ?

Watched my father do it once long time ago in my first home had to move a pipe cut “snapped it” the cast iron Then placed it back together with a fitting and using this same method now I know what that metal tool he was using is for my father had two of them. I use them for every thing else then what they were made for funny.

what do you think about those wax free rings that don't get sticky?

Man that sure ain't no Taj Mahal. That's good enough for that neighborhood.

Why is everyone so enamored with his gloves? The guy likes clean hands! Who cares!

@eddiew2325

4 жыл бұрын

No glove no love

I'd definitely go into framing mode. Forget the plumbing. So, I guess half inch ply will be good enough to replace rotted joists and girders across the whole second floor.

Why didn’t you use silicone on top of the lead and around the flange to stop anything from getting stuck in there

21:55 That's how it's done, beautiful.

Does anyone of your customers clean their bathrooms?

@eddiew2325

4 жыл бұрын

Big John that’s a squirter mama

@JasonW.

4 жыл бұрын

People ask why I wear gloves...

Wow New Bedford/Fall River area has a lot of Cholesterol in pipes? I never heard that in Worcester, MA.

@StevenLavimoniere Is this still the best fix these days? Compared to like the Oatey flange replacement? I just found out I need to do something with mine today.

Haven’t used okum in years.

Redressing of mushroomed chisel heads prevents pieces from breaking off and putting your eye out.

can you just use the PVC to cast iron flange ?

I’ve found myself saying to my son, who is my apprentice, “Give it the ole Gundy, mama!” And I don’t even know why that means.

@SoggyBiscuits1000

4 жыл бұрын

ive been saying "what a shit show!"

@djfremen

4 жыл бұрын

"Ain't no Taj Mahal"

@SoggyBiscuits1000

4 жыл бұрын

@@djfremen he needs tshirts with this stuff on!!

@mark33545

4 жыл бұрын

Glad to know i am not the only one

@eddiew2325

4 жыл бұрын

Debo 22 put it on the fritz

I remember my dad having a big sheet of lead in the back of the van .

Hi Steve, so I’m watching this video thinking to myself there is most likely only a handful of people that still know how to do this type of flange. Everyone is all about PVC and some glue.

Hey Steve, about how far away from the top of the pipe does the oakum have to be before you start pouring lead?

@edileo2112

4 жыл бұрын

1 inch of lead is required for a caulked joint

all the technology we have now and you decide to fix like they do in 1919 haha

@norrisonian

3 жыл бұрын

I just watched another video where they were replacing a toilet like that that lasted 75 years! Do those plastic replacements last 75years?! I'm just asking. .

@mfplumbing9341

3 жыл бұрын

​@@norrisonianhey my house is from 1932 still got the original lead and oakum toilet flange that's almost 90 years . I'm a younger plumber iv never seen it that's why it ought my attention we just cut and clamp.. but hey that ask about it on the contractors state test so there's definitely a time and place right haha.

@DJGELO723

3 жыл бұрын

His tools looks as older than the house...🤦🏼‍♂️

Watching the video you contributed much to the mess on the basement floor. Granted they should have cleaned it up.