It's highly regarded as the only episode that actually feels like Red Dwarf. And according to Diamanda Hagan who also did a retrospective. "Unlike the rest of the series when it feels like a bad sex comedy parodying Red Dwarf."

@MidnightChimey

Жыл бұрын

That's a good way of putting it

Rimmer also says that he had sex with a concussed Yvonne McGruder way back in season 1 or 2, so this is entirely in-character for him.

@MidnightChimey

13 күн бұрын

True, not out of character necessarily, framing of it is icky nonetheless

@jonothanthrace1530

13 күн бұрын

@@MidnightChimey 100% agreed.

I think the episode pete could work without the canaries as well. They could discover the time wand and birdman and Pete in a different way. The time wand was discovered on a ship. Birdman and Pete could be someone on the ship they discovered who was frozen in time by the time wand.

@MidnightChimey

11 ай бұрын

That could work, though you'd also have to work through all the pacing issues that episode has

@Lord_Skeptic

11 ай бұрын

You take all those out. Just get straight on with finding the time wand, birdman and Pete and devolving Pete into a dinosaur.

I don’t often rewatch s8, but when I do, it’s this episode

@MidnightChimey

Жыл бұрын

Seems like a lot of people would say the same

3:15 Cassandra is a brilliant episode. Series 8 had its moments. I think the problem with Series 7 and 8 is that it wasn't the same without Rob Grant. It was Rob Grant and Doug Naylor's writing that made Red Dwarf what it was and Chris Barrie stepping down from the show and being replaced by Chloe Annett didn't help and I think from Back to Earth onwards, the show had basically run out of ideas and maybe Red Dwarf for better or worse has been going on for too long. Doug Naylor had a tough job writing the show by himself with other writers. Lister's speech at the end of the episode was well written and it foreshadowed Back to Earth and actually mocks the show itself. I have to agree, Rimmer getting excited when Cassandra falsely tells him that he was going to die getting shot by Lister when he has sex with Kochanski was out of character and it makes Rimmer a sexual predator like Richie from Bottom. Cassandra had good plot. Good performances from the cast and it is Red Dwarf at it's very best.

@MidnightChimey

11 ай бұрын

I suppose Lister's speech does kind of foreshadow Back to Earth, I'd never thought about that before. Probably not deliberate but interesting nonetheless

Definitely the best episode of series 8.

@MidnightChimey

Жыл бұрын

Indeed

Spot on. Its so odd that Red Dwarf once championed the plight of women. I put all this shows issues post series 6 down to Rob Grants absence - after he went we got relentless sexism , homophobia & cliches about the base drives of both men & women. Rob Grant was the brains of the writing team, social conscience & strick editor of the slapstick that Naylor has proved is his only strong suit writing wise.

@MidnightChimey

11 ай бұрын

With Doug Naylor I think he is, or at least was back then, the kind of writer who needs someone there to just tell him where the line is and when to stop

@slaxxxer

11 ай бұрын

@@MidnightChimey I have been saying since 97 that he needs a tight leash!

🙂 "promosm"

@MidnightChimey

Жыл бұрын

Huh?