One of the nicest blokes you could ever hope to meet in the paddock. And Carl Fogarty.

Englands finest riders of the 80's & 90's on the road and track. Top men

I remember a journalist from Performance Bikes magazine in the 90's stating "Northman Whitham's hanging off riding style was developed to search for 20p's on the track"

Met Whitham at the weekend,top bloke really down to earth,he has seen the post and remembers the race well!Pointed out Steve Ives was out in front until he ran off and that Foggy's bike was faster than his RGV!

@jefftidd3388

4 жыл бұрын

L

That RGV250 was a beautiful and fast bike. My first bike back in 1999 was the baby Brother RG125 FUN. fond memories. Thanks

Proper bikes proper pilots they wer the glory days of racing legends amazing trust in each other

I remember this on the telly year's ago now.. Thanks for your upload.. :)

I remember watching this live. What an awesome race between two of the best. It also really heralded the future dominance of the 4 strokes in this class.

more bike racing from that era coming soon,glad you are enjoying it too!

awesome ! thanks for sharing these

Jamie was awesome.

I could just about smell the Castrol R.. Thank man Great vid!!

this is one of my fave all time races....earlier in the race they were all over each other constantly passing,sliding and almost crashing...good to watch.

Is this the same James Whitham that was riding the BSB bikes round at about 30 mph for his Eurosport feature last year? Haha,Don't worry James,time waits for no man-it just makes us love you even more! Hope James and Jack continue to grace the BSB series forever more,they really are the best commentary team ever.

@TheVimtoMoustache

5 жыл бұрын

I don't doubt it mate,Whit was one of my heroes when i got into biking in my teens. You don't loose it,you just appreciate the benefits of self preservation when you break rather than bounce!

love watching this two of the best

Vfr400 against rgv 250 nice ride both and hero's of mine

Great race between two great friends

Beautiful to watch... thanx.

Amazing video....I had the epic NC30 in Taiwan

Great vid good memories :)

SS400 was great racing but the 400's always had the advantage of a longer useable power/rev range - both Foggy & Whitham were class acts :-)

They use two race 250cc 2T vs 400cc 4T , also in the TT

Quality racing from two legends

Great stuff, thanks for posting it. Could you have guessed I wanted the NC to win it? ;o)

AWESOME!!! we need more more .. the whole race would be good... any 250/400 action!

I think i was there, we were standing just after the bridge. Excellent race and if I recall both were out later on 750's. I think Whit was on the GSXR then

400 Supersport, they should bring this class back

@markjurczyk

7 жыл бұрын

No

@pabloperez4063

4 жыл бұрын

Your request 5 years ago has been heard in the skies above: Now we have SUPERSPORT 300 CHAMPIONSHIP

@pablomero6228

4 жыл бұрын

@@pabloperez4063 That is cool, I watched most all races last year on SBK.com website.

@pabloperez4063

4 жыл бұрын

@@pablomero6228 ThE bikes are not as "top technology" as F3 used to be...in fact they are 7" slower than MOTO3...but they are the most "together" races ever! Groups of 15-20 together all ThE race, every race....even hilarious! Impossible to know who is going 3rd or 4th...

Glad you liked it!

Glad you liked la battaglia!

They should have made the new Moto2 class between 350cc 2-Strokes and 600cc 4-Strokes.

that was cool. more please. :D

I have the full race on VHS somewhere great days.

@GrrMeister

5 жыл бұрын

If you can still get a player for it !

@wewouldneversellourclubfor3166

4 жыл бұрын

The rgv 250 was brilliant and that's why aprilla 250 was so successful in racing as suzuki supplied them the engines.

@mcopperwheat

4 жыл бұрын

upload it to youtube, this has nearly 500000 views. I and many others would love to see it.

@Thunderer0872

4 жыл бұрын

@@mcopperwheat If I can find it and digitalise it, got to be careful it's not a Greenlight production like the IOM races as they take it down. Anyway at some point in the race Foggy shakes the back of James's seat as he passes. funny pair playing to the crowd.

Anyone know how worked this NC30 is? Damn beautiful to see this footage... nice upload.

Now thats a battle that we could understand

I agree two top blokes&I can't believe Foggy raced the same bike I now own!,Thanks to him&his daughter I once owned a Ducati 998 Matrix Reloaded edition!!.

No other NC30 was this fast, this bike had HRC bits on it. Although SS400 was a production based class. Hmmmm.

Good stuff,don't see races like that these days !!! thanx for replying my e-mail so soon, we will have to meet up for a beer soon, Bye for now , Neil.

exciting AND NICE WORKS!!!

Real racers in real times❤️👍

Fantastic

I was flag marshall on this very day. What a race !

250 2-strokes & 400 4-strokes? What is/was this racing formula called? Great racing btw :)

Wish 2 strokes never died

@austinriches9876

8 жыл бұрын

2 strokes are good

@GrrMeister

5 жыл бұрын

Why didn't you know, they were blamed as THE MAIN CULPRITS for Global Warming ! RG500 CH (1989) Pepsi-Suzuki "Kevin Schwantz" GP Race Replica, Interestingly, the last of the street RG500s (the H model) had almost the same power output as the original works racers!

@pabloperez4063

4 жыл бұрын

They were amazing...but ThE positive thing IS that ThE 1000cc MotoGP are way faster...And this IS what makes ThE races super. ThE faster, ThE better

@lriper4702

2 жыл бұрын

@@pabloperez4063 they are not faster. They just stopped developing the 2 strokes… when they raced together for 2002 season, development of 2t had stopped 2 years prior and still they were pretty close

that was brilliant m8 ;)

Whitham said in 2017 that he had a broken ring after a few laps in the race

Great stuff

Like some amateur. Fogarty looking behind 5000 times. Now since Whitham it's Eurosport comentator i have great respect for the guy. Very professional

@gs1100ed

Жыл бұрын

Why does looking back make him an amateur?

Need some footage of Jamie in the wet, phenomenal racer, funny as feck and a proper gent.

wow used to love jamie whitham,always wanted whitam to win but fogarty always used to pip the post ,nice upload

racing colors of the 90's pink, orange and lots of neon colors...

@rong.7768

5 жыл бұрын

I still have a racing suite from dainese..horrible color today can`t wear more. Pink, Black and Purple.... lol

I've got a couple of Supersport 400 races but they mostly feature RGV's and KR1's not your beloved four stroke.Will have a look for you anyway.

cracking race shows the strengths and weakness of 2 and 4 strokes,

this is fuckin awesome mate do you have any other nc30 racing clips?

What’s the HP of those bikes? Cheers

what year was this?

@pabloperez4063

4 жыл бұрын

Late 80's maybe...?

400cc against 250cc 🙄.....even it is a 2 stroke...that win was no big deal Carl......

Yeah! NC30 vs RGV250- awesome! Go honda V4!

@pabloperez4063

4 жыл бұрын

NR 750 RVF....one of the best And most beautiful And most advanced bikes ever

Foggy spent longer looking behind than forward …!

British Supersport 400 Championship 1991.

Yes agreed great rivalry,but these two are best of mates,where as Sete and Valentino.........well!

@pabloperez4063

4 жыл бұрын

Because Valentino needs hate in order to win

Bhè, si vedeva a occhio che la Honda di Foggy andava il doppio!!! Bella la battaglia 2 tempi VS 4 tempi...

As featured in PB!

1 great race, 2 legends 3 crazy eyes

¿RG 250 vs vfr 400?

fogarty makes me laugh forever looking over his shoulder

@johnnovy6630

4 жыл бұрын

Seemed to work for him though; especially getting a good idea what line Jamie was taking behind him.

@pabloperez4063

4 жыл бұрын

Because he lost his mirror somewhere down ThE track

This was called Formula 3 or F3. Before the SV650s etc.. ps.. Carl Fogarty is David Patrick Kelly..

Excellent Video! POST MORE!!! RGV250 would of won if foggy blocked him in the corner exits

Fogarty è un dio...he's a god

What 400 v 250 did I hear right

No replacement for displacement.

rgv 250 suzuki two stroke , amazing !!

just enjoy the racing.

One of their later WSB races at a wet Monza - Carl was leading, saw it was James behind, so stood on his pegs and wiggled his bum at James.

Sultanes del Swing.

Shout out to my mate Steve Ives who was beating both of them

@anthonyleigh439

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah top lad is Steve as is his brother, Ian. Many a laugh with them up at their shop in Hyde

@thepixalator6758

3 жыл бұрын

As Wayne Rainey once said "To finish 1st first you gotta finish"!

ive owned both those bikes.

met foggy once he was an arrogant big headed pillock but!! 4 times world champ i suppose you can be

...and Jamie too!!!

Good race.

RVF400 ปะทะ RGV250 เฉือนกับแบบ แทบกินกันไม่ลง

Before electronics pussified motorcycle racing

@pabloperez4063

4 жыл бұрын

It was a thing waiting to happen...because in those days ThE HP were 4 time less

@mark675

3 жыл бұрын

Im sure you could control 260bhp! 😂

Fast as fuck and no leg dangling...makes you wonder what's the point...

@gs1100ed

Жыл бұрын

Monkey see, monkey do

proper sportsmen

they sure are fast bike being so small..

@pabloperez4063

4 жыл бұрын

They look really fast ! Imagine if they were riding 250 GP...

Cadweel?

Jamie was fantastic! I ended up with a pair of his Marchi wheels off his BSB Gixer....unreal.

Brilliant racing Foggy showing the heart of a Lion as usual. Well done Carl on winning the jungle challenge. You deserved it. The public saw you for what you are a great normal bloke! Well done mate .

Brilliant is James

@doraemaman Wrong- NC30 VFR400. V4 rulez! No in-line shit here!

oh yes sorry 1991 didn't see that at first.

I thought Haga ran close ha ha.

@JeremyGSU u must be under 20 then as fogarty was the daddy in the mid to late 90's

Stroker baby.

Steve Ives should have won this one!!!!!!!!

You wont ever see them days off racing again, absolute gentlemen of superbike racing 👌

Remember this well. Fogarty always beat whitham most of the time. Whitham not getting the rear end right out on this one haha.

foggy looks scared of witham! looking round to see where he is at every corner!

@gs1100ed

Жыл бұрын

You can only look back if you are in front.

Oh no, not steve parrish again!!!

RG250 suzuki vs VFR 400

scared? probly more like checking him to take the right lines to block Witham.

@gs1100ed

Жыл бұрын

Did anyone mention how many times James looked forward at Carl’s A$$?