Very interesting information regarding those brakes. Thanks for sharing.

That’s some entertaining info supreme DT master

Great video dude! Forgot to mention how nice they glow on racetracks :)

@DriversTherapy

2 жыл бұрын

True!!!

I was JUST spending some time yesterday looking up whether or not I should get CCBs on my next car. Perfect timing for this vid :D

@DriversTherapy

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome!!! For the Z06?

@orcazy01

2 жыл бұрын

@@DriversTherapy Yessir! I think I'm gonna go for them

@DriversTherapy

2 жыл бұрын

@@orcazy01 you should! They are amazing and should be experienced. I can't wait to hear about how you setup the C8. I hear there is a long waiting period...

Great video. Very informative.

@DriversTherapy

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.

One thing you didn’t mention is carbon ceramic brake in winter condition. While the temperature drops under 50F, the Carbon ceramic brake barely stops the car until you brakes for few time to warm it up, and it creates extremely loud grinding noise when it’s cold. It is dangerous for the first or second stop. Another dangerous experience I had with carbon ceramic brakes is when I was driving home from Ski resort, driving Urus with snow tires, after cruising on highway without using any brakes for about ten minutes, I need hard brake because there was a sudden traffic in front of me, my car took forever to slow down even though(I feel like the brake was doing nothing for the first 2 seconds) I brake very very hard, at the moment I thought I was going to rear end the car in front of me, thank god those brakes warmed up and slowed the car down immediately.

@DriversTherapy

Жыл бұрын

I didn’t know that. Great info. I don’t drive my GT4 in winter but it’s good to know.

Outstanding video

@DriversTherapy

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Really appreciate it. 😀

Crazy how expensive they are!

Hope you had covered the special brake pads needed for the CCB rotors. They are even more trickier than the rotors.

@DriversTherapy

Ай бұрын

I didn’t know that. Thanks for that info.

wonder how you break them in ?

Very interesting video - thx 👍🏼

@DriversTherapy

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!!!

@lukiii_e

Жыл бұрын

@@DriversTherapy I am going to buy a racing yellow GT4 with PCCB and 17.000km - I saw the surface cracks but with your infos I‘m not worried any more :)

@lukiii_e

Жыл бұрын

@@DriversTherapy one question - how long do the brake pads last during normal use?

@DriversTherapy

Жыл бұрын

@@lukiii_e awesome! Your going to love it. Don’t worry about the small cracks. Also, make sure to watch my video of the GT4 buyers guides.

Short and sweet video, but with a correction: the 2000 Mercedes-Benz CL 55 AMG F1 Edition was the first production vehicle to have standard ceramic brake discs (2 years before the Enzo).

@DriversTherapy

Жыл бұрын

Awesome! I didn’t know that. I will have to read about it. Thanks for the data.

Thank you for sharing great information. How often do I need to change the carbon ceramic brake pads and can I check the condition of pads visually?

@DriversTherapy

Жыл бұрын

Checking the pads thickness from 100% to 20% can be checked just by looking at them but if you have uneven wear which is unlikely most of the time, you might mess that. As far as changing out the pads goes, I would let Porsche do that but if you really want to do it, there is some good DIYs out there.

@tyson527

7 ай бұрын

@@DriversTherapydo you know approximately how often the pads need to be changed ? On my cayman S, I needed to change them at around 23k miles.

@DriversTherapy

7 ай бұрын

@@tyson527 less often with carbon ceramic brakes. They use different materials. But it depends on how they are used. Heavy track days will sorted their service life significantly. Thank you for watching my video and make sure to follow us on IG.

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Any part 2 video to this, to record the squeaking they make? How long does it take to heat them up for normal street use in winter and summer? What's your climate like?

@DriversTherapy

Жыл бұрын

I live in Colorado. We get all the seasons. I got some squeak after driving hard but otherwise it stays fairly quiet.

@nessuno5403

Жыл бұрын

@@DriversTherapy thanks!

The friction layer can be rebuilt by Rebrake in Germany for a fraction of the cost of new

@DriversTherapy

Жыл бұрын

That’s interesting. Good information to know.

Hi I just ordered a MB car and the dealer said it comes with CC amg brakes. Now I find out the front is CC and the rear are not CC rotors. To me this sounds not right. Any thoughts? Thanks

@DriversTherapy

Жыл бұрын

I am unable to find any information or data on that configuration. Typically you would not mix two different brake materials between the front and back since the would react differently during heat cycles. But, you never know, MB could have found a way to mix the two to make CC an option still. But I’m hesitant to believe it would work well.

@nessuno5403

Жыл бұрын

😂 Is it a C63? They've always been setup that way, as a simple research would confirm

@DriversTherapy

Жыл бұрын

@@nessuno5403cool, I could not find that out. That is a odd setup.

@rd.7732

Жыл бұрын

@nes suno it is a gle and it is front only no worries but I wish MB would offer F and R

@nessuno5403

Жыл бұрын

@@rd.7732 somehow, they commonly setup 63 models that way. May be they're trying to reduce front V8 weight and keep cost down? I first discovered this with the C63. It's normal, but odd.

I have 440mm PCCB brakes on my Turbo GT. I have not noticed squeal.

@DriversTherapy

Жыл бұрын

My also don't squeal a lot.

The cost of running the OEM CC brakes on a track in a fast car like a 2012 - 2022 McLaren on a road course with serious braking zones like Laguna Seca in Monterrey with a quick driver for a track day weekend is over $2500 in pad and rotor wear Stopping power under track conditions like this is not noticeably enhanced by running CC brakes as opposed to steel brakes Pad and steel brakes set ups would cost under $250 per weekend under same circumstances CC brakes are great for the street with amazing and do not create but a little brake dust Many exotic car owners curse their OEM CC setups as they can need som miles to heat up a bit after you pull out of your garage So one must allow longer stopping distance than normal

@DriversTherapy

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing that information. PCCBs are not very cost friendly at all for the hobbies track day but if they offered less performance, majority of IMSA cars wouldn’t be using them. I know I would use PCCBs if I track a lot due to the cost but the performance is undisputed. Thanks for watching the video.

What is the exact weight gain on this ceramics vs steel in kg?

@DriversTherapy

Жыл бұрын

Ceramic rotors are lighter than steel rotors. Not sure on the exact weight difference. This article says about 10 pounds difference per wheel. rennlist.com/forums/gt4-spyder/860668-pccb-vs-factory-steel-brake-weight-difference.html

@cranialnerv

Жыл бұрын

The weight saving is particularly significant on high-performance cars, because the rotors are necessarily very large. The importance of reducing unsparing weight is tremendous.

@luigirigattoni9648

Жыл бұрын

@@DriversTherapy thanks for info!

@DriversTherapy

Жыл бұрын

@@luigirigattoni9648 your welcome!

nice, just bought a porsche with PCCB

@DriversTherapy

Жыл бұрын

Congratulations!

@JamesWilson234

9 ай бұрын

Would love to hear more of your thoughts! I’m looking at 718 GT4 that has them and can’t figure out if I should or not!

@immoservicemark7506

9 ай бұрын

I have sold my 997.2 for a 981 pdk with steel brakes. The stopping power difference is immense! The pccb never fade and no brake dust. When you’re not tracking the car, i would go for the pccb.

@JamesWilson234

9 ай бұрын

@@immoservicemark7506 When NOT tracking the car - interesting? Do you think the wear is too high when tracking then and therefore could be in for maintenance? I'm probably looking at 3 track days a year...

Man I get that crap all the time on my 14 Z28 “you need to fix your brakes” then I have to explain they are not just normal brakes and cost about $9,000 to replace lol

Watch out for gravel, can trash those carbon brake in a heart beat! 👍

@DriversTherapy

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the caution. I appreciate it.

Don't these make squealing noise when applied in street in cold weather places.

@DriversTherapy

Жыл бұрын

They squeak in all types of temperatures. It’s just part of the characteristic of the type of brakes they are.

@pd3345

Жыл бұрын

@@DriversTherapy Is that pretty annoying/embarrassing or tolerable?