Love that you guys did this video! Too many people just think “she’ll be right” Can’t wait to see the start of your lap!

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!! Can’t wait to start sharing it with everyone!

Excellent insight and learnings, thanks to your both.

What a great video - really informative. I'm looking forward to following you travels!

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Thanks guys, this bud was so awesome. Loved your culling weigh in, so great to see and consider how much the individual items add up. Thank you so much for putting this gem together 👍

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! So glad it helped 😊

Thank you so much for sharing this. We’re getting a next gen ranger, and have calculated the crap out of the ranger and the caravan we’ve ordered. We won’t be living in it and I’ve itemised EVERYTHING, so I think we’re sweet, but I am 100% getting this kind of weight check done. It’s the difference between having a safe holiday/lifestyle and driving a dangerous weapon 👍

@nowornever_aus

Жыл бұрын

No probs at all!! Glad it helped!

Thanks for sharing this. One of the best explanations of weights we have seen.

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Very helpful, thanks heaps! Loving you guys!

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! 🙌🏼

Great video guys. Very informative and I'm glad you were able to finalise everything before you departed. 🙂

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate!

Very informative, enjoy your travels. I knew about all the weight issues we all face and the fact that so many don't go through your preparation process to see where you were at at travel weights. Good on you.

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much mate!

Great watch! So informative. Definitely something all caravan owners should do.

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!!

Very informative. Thanks guys... Enjoy your trip 😁

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers mate!

Fantastic Video. Food for thought. Happy Travels 🌟

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you 😊

Awesome video! Thanks for going into details and showing how much things weigh. We pick up our JB Van next week so it is so good to know this before moving everything into it. Really need to think carefully about if we really need it! Looking forward to your next vid!

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! It was definitely an eye opener!

Thank you guys for the video it's so important to do what you've done appreciated..👍👍

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate!

Hey guys,not sure if you have them already, but changing your batteries over to lithium saves a ton of weight in the van some up to 50kg saving. Im glad you did this video and good old Dave took the time to explain it so even i could understand. Cheers

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter! Yes we already have lithium batteries, all is good now as we have dropped and moved some weight. Thanks for watching!

Well done guys, everyone needs to see your video so many vans and trucks are over weight, I always weigh our set up each time we hit the road. Look forward to more of your adventure

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

Another great video and super helpful. I will definitely be getting a weight check done when my Gator X and LC-300 arrives.

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! And what a great combo!

Cheers guys. We are about to go through that process with a similar van and car. Safe travels 👍

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate!

Great piece guys. You've given a 101 for vehicle and van owners. Thanks.

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you and merry Christmas!

Bloody awesome job guys, made it so much easier to understand what is super complex. Travel safe

@nowornever_aus

Жыл бұрын

Cheers mate!

Great video! Very informative and enjoyable to watch

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

Awesome thanks for that, I already have a GVM upgrade and weighted my set up, its a great being legal travelling

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

👍🏼

Great video! Nice and real video on the process! Keep it light.

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Can't wait for the next video, enjoy the video about weights 💪. Would like to hear about the canopy set-up inside an out. Cheers Chris

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate! Whole video on the Ranger and canopy in the works!

Absolutely fantastic video for everyone who tows, to many accidents caused by uneven and overweight cars and vans.

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Wow thats great info. We pick up our new van next week. Happy travelling guys.

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Congrats on the new van!! Happy travelling to you to! Enjoy!

Thanks so much we needed this info 😊really great help

@nowornever_aus

Жыл бұрын

No probs! Glad it helped!!

Well done guys…. Yep I want to check us before we head west!

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Well worth it!

Keep these great videos coming. Our GatorX has a tare of 2331 so very close to yours. With just 2 of us we think we will be good, and we are paranoid about wights. I have a heavy canopy but already have the GVM upgrade. Going over the weigh bridge soon! It’s all theory until then. Safe travels.

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers mate!! Fingers crossed your under!

Hubby has fortunately the knowledge for weights. We had to upgrade our Prado to a later model in order to tow our off-road van. I weighed everything I put into the van. Pedantic but didnt want to be overweight. Cull your tools to absolute minimum. Get rid of the impact driver. Van manufacturers specifically say not to use to put the van legs up and down so ditch the weights. Doing it manually is your exercise.

@nowornever_aus

Жыл бұрын

We will be doing that this time around!

Great advice.! Thanks

Great video and very informative. My wife and I purchased our first van and four-wheel-drive tow vehicle a few months ago. We were surprised at how small the payload of our vehicle and van ended up. An additional $3500 increased the vehicle's GVM to a usable total, but we still need to watch every kilogram we load. I look at the rigs I see powering along the highway with similar vehicles and vans loaded to the gunwales with fridges, bicycles, BBQs, sliding drawers, bull bars, and roof racks etc. and realise how "over" they must be.

@nowornever_aus

11 ай бұрын

Thank you! Great to hear you are all over your numbers! I think the travelling community is getting better and better with weights as they are becoming more educated 👍🏼

Nice one. I'm an interstate trucky and one of my drops was a place in Alice Springs. Talking to the bloke there and he had a tow truck business. Went out to recover car and van that had come to grief. Insurance company said can you weigh recovered car and van, yes just go over weighbridge with car/van on and then weigh truck empty. Were over on GCM, insurance company said unroadworthy vehicle, insurance void. Bloke even had to pay for the recovery tow.

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I hear ya! the chance of having insurance void may be slim, but not worth the risk with so much money at stake! Thanks for watching mate!

@alanhoult3613

2 жыл бұрын

Greatly needed comment last time I was up My Isa way police had a road block and weigh point and were putting vans off the road

Thanks for your presentation. Awesome. U have helped a lot.

@nowornever_aus

Жыл бұрын

No probs! Glad it helped you!

I am currently looking to purchase our first 4WD and trying to understand the requirements…. So a big well done and thanks. This has really helped me with the understanding of weight requirements and the need for a good GVM upgrade.

@nowornever_aus

Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped you!!

Fantastic information thanks so much for sharing.

@nowornever_aus

Жыл бұрын

No problems!! Thanks for watching! 🙌🏼

I had Dave do a check for us on our BT50 and single axle Outback. Very glad we did, weights were all good and passed with a green tick, only the BW was getting very close to limit. Gives us piece of mind that we are safe and legal. Thanks guys for the excellent presentation and thanks again to Dave at Weight Check.

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Good stuff guys! Dave is great to deal with and glad your all in your limits!

Nice work guys! great info. cheers

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Hi guys, just watched this again - great VLOG. I'm a bit sorry that you didn't enjoy 80 mile that much, but you have to pick the season. I stayed there for a month in May/June 2017, on the way to the Gibb.

@nowornever_aus

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I’m sure at different times of the year certain places can feel very different! Cheers!

Great video, safe travels

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Great video team. It is pretty dull on making sure you are under weight. Can’t wait to see the trio videos!

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍🏼

Love the videos guys keep up the good work. On a side note we to are looking at doing a min 3-6 month lap next year and just picked up our new van on Friday and before we had it registered I asked it I could get our pay load upgraded from 300kg to the maximum 575kg and it wasn't a problem , sample as change of compliance plate rating to suit the maximum allowed Axle , spring and tyre rating . I have done this for peace of mind , We have weighed everything in the van and it came upto around 450-490kgs including full tanks x2 . Thanks for your video's and I hope it opens up alot of people's eyes and realise it doesn't take much to be over . Travel safe . Cheers

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate! Appreciate the kind words and enjoy your trip!!

Great video guys, explained the complex weight issue extremely well...FYI...we did 15000km mini lap 2 years ago, Kimberlies, central Qld and NSW, Never had need of a jerry can, diesel was available everywhere ( we carried two, ) didnt take me long to empty them and leave them that way.. think total weight saving was 46 kg ..just sayin...Happy travels....

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! As for the jerry cans we are realising the same thing! They are both empty now and will only fill if we know we desperately need them! Thanks for watching!

I feel your pain, I hope the air fryer stayed!! Lol great exercise

@nowornever_aus

Жыл бұрын

It stayed for a while but is gone now! Just took up too much room for how often we used it!

Never realised the ball weight affected the cars payload, great informative video

@nowornever_aus

Жыл бұрын

Yes it’s one that catches a lot of people out!

Great works guys heaps of info 🍺🍺

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Great episode. We get our van next year, pretty much same set up as you guys weight wise.

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Thanks for your video, very informative. Still waiting for our caravan, hopefully we will see you on the road sometime?👍😊

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

No probs! Yes we may see you out there!

Great video guys!!!

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much!! 👍🏼

Best money we ever spent using weight check. Too many vans out there not legal and they don’t realise in an accident they are not covered on their insurance. . Great vid guys. Take noodles rather than inflatables. Much lighter and easier.

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!! The noodles is a great idea!

Great video guy's . we we'll be getting our gatorx weighed soon just the two of us so hopefully ok .🤞

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

That’s great! The 17”10 gators Sean to have a little more payload aswell so you should be fine!

Awesome information thanks

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

No probs! Thanks for watching

Great video,fascinating

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers!

Great video guys, I am stressed out over weights as we have a 2010 hilux with a low tow capacity of 2.25 tonnes and tossing up on what size van to get, your video was a real eye opener, many thanks and safe travels 😀

@nowornever_aus

Жыл бұрын

No problems! Glad it helped and best of luck!

great vid guys

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers!

Great video guys! Very informative! (Noticed the very local to us place where you had the weight check done 😉). Glad we decided in a GVM upgrade pre-rego when we bought our new car recently. Happy Travels!

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!! Safe travels for you too!

best video i have seen on weights

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate! We really appreciate it!

Great video. That van payload seems very low. The only area I have any concern with in our set up is rear axle load. Towball weight can really impact there. I can't carry all my firewood in the rear of our Everest. Our situation is different to yours. Different van, different tow vehicle. We don't have children to consider either.

@nowornever_aus

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah everyone’s situation is very individual and that’s why it’s best to get checked and not just rely on going off someone with a “similar” set up 👍🏼

My lip reading... Over by 240kg on van.. Been there mate.

Well done guys. So many people are over weight and uninsured as they haven’t done the calculations for vehicle and vans and they have spent $150k plus and they will have lost their life savings

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! Not worth the risk

So good thanks

@nowornever_aus

Жыл бұрын

👍🏼

Great video. As a grandparent I can tell you the kids would have gone on the first cull. Hahahahaha 😂

@nowornever_aus

Жыл бұрын

🤣

Yep, 240kgs over, well done that you sorted it out.

@nowornever_aus

Жыл бұрын

Cheers mate! 👍🏼

Great work guys. We're going through all these sums in our head awaiting our car and van arrival, and great to see how much care you've put into the weights of your gear. Is there any issues with getting your GVM upgrade after registration as I had heard if you do it after the car is registered it's then only legal in the state where the GVM was done?

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! The information that I received from the company that did the upgrade is that it is legal nation wide, but if it gets registered in another state it then becomes null and void Thanks for watching!

Wow 31% and 42% Wobble Box Highway, that’s 42% not covered by insurance, Stay safe and no Wobbles.

Hi Guys great to see a nice young couple living the dream . It costs a lot more than people think to be on the road. Great video on safety with vans now over the top with gear you don't need ,bit like the houses young ones complain they cannot afford due to, got to have everything. When I was a kid migrant our first home had two bedrooms, three foot sink in kitchen with cold water on tap and luxury chip heater in bathroom to heat water. Tin Can dunny in back yard , and our best luxury was the ice man came twice a week🥴 we did five years on the road back in 2000 been just about everywhere in Oz worth doing , it is a pity it's so expensive and crowded these days. Please don't ever take that nice big van on the beach or 4WDing a 4WD sticker does make a 4WD ?🤔 Remember all those crazy guys on tv are given their vans and this looks like your home 👍 ENJOY your adventures

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah your not wrong mate, it is hard to not get caught up these days with wanting the biggest and the best but we are trying to appreciate what we have more now and be grateful that we have it! Thanks for watching!

good video, it was surprising there was not more said about the car axle load and how close to its maximum, particularly if increased by moving gear to the car?

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate! we just didn’t want the vid to go forever 🤣, rear axle load was around 1500kg so well and truly under

That was well done a lot to think about, you work well as a team so well explained .Subscribe hope to see more. Respecting the law helps us all. Thank you

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

Great video but my understanding is if Ur under Ur gcm u should be able to just shuffle Ur weights to the axles that are light

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately not, because we were over our ATM on our van that weight had to be removed from the van completely. All sorted now though and wothin all of our weight limits 👍🏼 Thanks for watching

Thanks

Great vid, built my own van, so I'm aware of Weights, my mate was 600 kg over weight vehicle alone, add his ball of 350 kg , he was well over weight, Police were stopping vans at Emerald the other day , I wonder how many were legal. Most people I meet on road don't care or don't understand there weights. GVM upgrades not allowed in Queensland after car registration, Remember a GVM upgrade will affect your towing capacity, Unless you can get a GCM upgrade as well. Remember to ask your insurer if they approve the upgrades. Some insurers only approve certain upgrades, Check before doing any changes. 😀🤠🇦🇺

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate! We got our gvm upgrade done, now all legal and all good with insurance etc. Thanks for watching!

100% done it right.

@nowornever_aus

Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate! We think we made the right choice!

You can do it all on a public wieghbridge , it cost me $40. The good thing about the wieghbridge is that the car Ison the same plane as the van so not 60mm higher. I recommend everyone knows what there weights are If you over and you have an accident the insurance won't want to know you but the police Will. Stay legal and stay safe, you owe it to yourself your family and all others on the road

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers mate, will be going to a couple of weigh bridges along the journey to make sure we are still legal, thanks for watching!

@Steven_Rowe

2 жыл бұрын

@@nowornever_aus it is really simple on a width bridge. They width the whole lot including passengers then they simple weight the van attached to the tow vehicle and then you detach and they worth the van From this you get the GCM, the GVM of the tow vehicle the ATM of the van and your ball weight Obviously the GTM is ATM- Ball weight

@edboyes

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been told that most Weighbridge’s aren’t particularly accurate. The mobile weighbridge I used in Adelaide uses the same scales as the transport departments in most states.

@Steven_Rowe

2 жыл бұрын

@@edboyes well I don't know who told you, further more do you believe everything your told . The use weighbridges for trucks as weights are pretty crucial. I think wieghbridge accuracy would be heavily monitored and calibration checked

Well explained, but no mention of allowable rear axle weight. That’s harder to keep under than GVM on dual cabs and wagons.

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah we could have spoken for hours on the topic but just felt the video would have been too long 😂 we were well under our rear axle limit! Thanks for watching

2L or 3L milk bottle with handle to use as dumbbells

Hey guys thanks for the info, just a question what schooling did you end up going with for the kids??

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

We went with simply homeschool 😊

Hi guys, great video was well explained, and I learnt alot. Was the weight check expensive to do?

@nowornever_aus

Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate! It wasn’t too expensive considering what you get out of it and the 1 on 1 with the technician, from memory it was somewhere between $300 and $400

Had you guys thought about doing a ATM upgrade on the van? Pending how well it was built often a mechanical engineer will give you a ATM upgrade without modifications. Will allow you to carry that extra weight and still remain under GCM.

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah we did but not an option unfortunately, cruise master rate their atx single axle at a maximum 2.8T so no room for upgrade like a lot of other set ups. Cheers mate

Hi guys great informative vid very telling, how was was your rear axle load with van attached ? We have a single axle van 260 kg TBW towing with LC 200 it's close to the 1950 kg rear axle max. It is worth the effort to get weights right. Cheers Ian.

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate! We are good on the axle weight, Thanks for watching!

I am stunned that he did not suggest an ATM upgrade to the van. Many vans can get an almost automatic upgrade from factory. Mine got an upgrade from 2540 to 3200kgs without doing anything what so ever. Engineer certified.

@nowornever_aus

Жыл бұрын

The only reason he didn’t was because he was well aware that it wasn’t possible on this van. Cruisemaster have a maximum rating in this suspension at 2.8t from factory in a single axle orientation so not possible for any upgrade unfortunately

@rossatkinson3160

Жыл бұрын

@Now or Never fair enough. Just surprised he dis not mention it as a possibility for others.

@nowornever_aus

Жыл бұрын

Understandable, anyone he weighs that does have that option he does recommend it to them 👍🏼

With regards to GVM up grades. Can you still have a GVM upgrade post rego as ive read elsewhere that in some states GVM upgrades can only be done prior t rego

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

In Qld it is legal to have it done post rego, but if we were to sell the car to someone interstate it would become non compliant and have to be re engineered according to that states laws. Thanks for watching!

I bought a Crusader with a 850 kg payload

This is my main worry being over weight.

Great info but Could you give us a print out on the final result.. I find the dude confusing to try and follow.. Cheers

Awesome info thank You very much. If you dont mind, how much did the gvm upgrade cost you?

@nowornever_aus

Жыл бұрын

It was around $500 from memory for the engineer and nothing extra at main roads 👍🏼

@theboarhunter

Жыл бұрын

@@nowornever_aus hopefully you might be able to help . I just recently had my suspension upgraded but didn't think of a gvm upgrade at the time. Would you know who would give me a gvm certification without having to change my suspension again ? Seems they all only certify what they install and not other brands of suspension. I run bilstein shockies.

@nowornever_aus

Жыл бұрын

Your in a similar position that we were, you need to contact your local auto engineer and they will be able to guide you 👍🏼

Do you have lithium for your battery setup? Swapping from AGM to Lithium saved us 60kg, although our payload is 730kg so we have breathing space already. We weighed every item packing as well and have reweighed at least half a dozen times over 4 years of caravanning. Food can weigh heaps. Good luck.

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yes we do have a lithium setup

Does a WDH do anything towards taking the weight of the rear axle? I am over a 115KG on the rear axle on a 200 series VX without a WDHitch.

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure sorry mate! Haven’t had any experience with them

In the computer program… oh thanks dad 😂

The one thing that everyone will not think of is the car rear and front diff legal weights. You can be all good with the other combined weights but the rear diff especially will be over for most setups. This will be a big problem in 2023 with the police now set up to fine you, plus you won't be able to move til the weight is legal. The huge problem that everyone misses or don't understand is that you won't have any Insurance cover at all if they figure out your not legal...

@nowornever_aus

Жыл бұрын

Yes this is so true, that’s why we think it’s pretty important that people get professionally weighed so they know all their weights

What’s your thoughts on the rules surrounding GVM upgrades, whereby if you get it done pre registration it upgrades your GCM, however if done post registration it doesn’t. Where the vehicles are identical the rules in my opinion should be the same whether pre or post registration.

@nowornever_aus

7 ай бұрын

Yeah I agree with you but they must have some strong reasoning not to do so, possibly because of older vehicles having the chance of being in poor condition

@johnadams0154

7 ай бұрын

That would make sense if it was the case however a mate of mine has a 2012 Landcruiser 200 and he had a GVM upgrade in 2014 which included upgrade to the GCM. He had it done before the rules changed and the rules aren’t retrospective so he’s legal. I have a 2017 200 series but my GVM upgrade was done after the rule change and my GCM remains the same. If I had it done in Victoria it would be legal. There needs to be national consistency with vehicle standards. It’s either safe or it’s not. PS I have had Dave do my weights. He is great and I’m all good. Thanks for your vid. Very informative. 👍👍

If your GVM is ok, get an ATM upgrade

Kiara went through this today saylas books were 12kg so Sayla is getting a kindle too

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Crazy hey?!

Good video......hence why I am selling my ranger and buying a troopy. I do think van manufacturers should be more accountable in this. They need to build vans with enough ATM to allow buyers to use the accessories fitted. Why fit 180litres of water and 2 jerry can holders on a van with such a tight payload, common sense says you wil never be able to use them.

@nowornever_aus

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I think one of the main problems with caravan manufacturers at the moment is they don’t do real world testing and get out there in the vans to see what really works and what doesn’t

The trap everyone falls into is going up to there maximum weights cause they follow a number.

Look into the possibility of a caravan ATM upgrade first.

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Warwick, we did look into that option but unfortunately for our situation cruisemaster suspension rate their setups at the highest possible rating from factory meaning no chance of upgrading. This would have been a much easier option if it was possible

@warwicknorton833

2 жыл бұрын

GVM it is then. Recommend checking the rear maximum axle load rating won't be exceeded when loaded to the increased GVM. Luvin watching your journey so far. 👍

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate! 🍻

I am curious did the van manufacturer lie as to the tare weight at delivery. Was it way over ???

@nowornever_aus

10 ай бұрын

We’ll never know unfortunately as we didn’t weigh it before we loaded gear into it

But is your rear axle below allowed limit? This is where people get caught out and get a bent diff and ruined wheel bearings

@nowornever_aus

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it just scraped in! But yea I agree a lot of people aren’t away or don’t care about those number and cause damage

Should the van be weighed as tare when new to make sure it is what manufacturer says.

@nowornever_aus

Жыл бұрын

Yes I would definitely check this! Wish we had of done it with this van. We have our new one now and have weighed it empty so stay tuned for that video!

I have read that the manufacturer's tare mass does not include the awning, air conditioner and any gas in the bottles. Please verify as these items dramatically affect the payload of the van. Thanks.

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Tare weight is with all accessories fitted as it rolls out of the factory, with no fluids. Regardless of what the tare weight is though you cannot exceed your ATM

@rogerharvey5760

2 жыл бұрын

@@nowornever_aus Thanks immensely for clarifying that, much appreciated. Roger

Take out everything you have packed for just in case you will never use them.

@nowornever_aus

2 жыл бұрын

Your not wrong! 😂 we had heaps of maybe items in there!

@alanhoult3613

2 жыл бұрын

Great tip Zoe now we are old we are down to an X Trail minimum everything and back in our good old tent 🥳