I used to own caravans in the 80’s and 90’s. I am staggered now unaffordable they have become. Manufacturers are pricing themselves out of the business.

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

There is the take to that they are better equipped than that era but your right prices are getting to high - thanks for comments Victor

I think the motorhome bubble will end too. They have crept up so much it’s Absolutley ludicrous . Law of gravity , what goes up, must come down 😀

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Hi Elaine - I am sure it may with more parking restrictions and emission stuff getting into a town could prove hard. The cost is a big factor to especially as folk now keep their savings earning interest to not just saying blow it in low interest times. Thank you for commenting and watching of course!

I think the price of caravans went up too much through covid, partly demand and partly greed in the industry. Its now priced people out, both on the extortionate cost of them and the ever increasing site fees. Also, the cost of running a suitable tow car and the switch to electric cars that are unsuitable for towing could be pushing people towards campers and motorhomes.

@anicegal

3 ай бұрын

Dont mention the B word

@Br1anuk

3 ай бұрын

The price of caravans sky rocketed. Over £40,000 for a twin axle is just crazy.

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Hi Chris it all adds up to a perfect storm doesnt it! these are all factors in making caravanning more expensive and a problem was just pre covid makers were seeing sales at a slow pace, so Covid for a short time was a blessing and yes sure some profiteering went on but now were back to reality and wit the economy not good is been a double whammy!

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

I agree and folk mostly wont pay it the worlds gone mad!!!

@watto7728

3 ай бұрын

Its not uncommon now to be out numbered by motorhomes / campervans on sites. I guess purchased on PCP, finance or raiding the pension pots. I remember walking into a local dealer here in north Warwickshire many years ago to discuss buying a new caravan, first question I was asked will I be needing finance, having said no the sales person became noticeably disinterested.

Dealers need to stop robbing customers. the cost of caravans are obscene ! The cost don't match the build quality of uk made vans. Some dealers deserve to but shut down.

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Right - okay so some have made a few bob during the rush, their not the only type of business that makes hey while the sun shines. Dont forgtet caravans and motorhomes are still put together by humans that had good and bad days. We know that they should be put together as well as possible but its not always the case and no doubt cost cutting can affect the outcome to. To be honest we dont want any manufacturer go or dealers because less dealerships means less choice and not good for the buyer. Yes there is bad and good and always has been but lest not hope anybody falls by the wayside-thanks for your comments

@sparkmeister4706

3 ай бұрын

@@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk they were taking the P during COVID though. Paying peanuts. Giving bad customer service as they couldn't keep up with demand. No excuse for bad workmanship though. Adria and knaus are very well made in comparison. Greed gets to all. Robinsons in Worksop were brilliant when I went. Sadly it's the group companies above that fail. Like this one.

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

At moment Adria are suffering in UK and problem with Knaus few spares and dealers several dealers I know dropped them - heavy and used prices have plummeted - not popular - but yes the Covid thing did take everybody by surprise, but I know dealers who couldnt compete with private sellers as private sales also overcharged and no back up of course. As any business high demand pushes prices up pre owned vans went mad as convertors ruched to buy them and charge a fortune - we will have to watch how things pan out Spakkmeister you or I cant effect whats going on sadly

The silly price that campsites now charge is not helping. The so called "Clubs" charge way over the top especially at any holiday time with things like Easter or Whitsun etc stretching over weeks at full price of £40 plus per night. Good video.

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

John - its pricing folk out as you say and the clubs done help much either - hence I cant afford the prices anymore at present. myself - thank you for liking and commentating the video.

@johncartlidge9292

3 ай бұрын

We left the C&MC last year and dont use C&CC club site due to prices. Do use the Temp Holiday Sites at about £11 or so. Out over Easter on a CCC rally at £10 per night. Sites will have to return to realistic prices soon. We go away to Europe for as long as we can like 3 months in the winter as Europe has the right prices.

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Hi John - yes club prices have seen big rises, and good that you have done some cheap caravanning breaks and interesting how the rest of Europe seems to keep prices at a realistic figure - thank you for giving that info.

Wow. Great video. Just goes to show you never know when things will fall apart. Thanks for sharing Paul and Sarah

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Thank you - this of course has all happened before - back then social media wasnt around so it wasnt widely known - another vlog to follow on the 80/1/2/3 slump and 91/2/3 slow down-back then more dealers and makers with so few it doesnt look so good - thank you for watching and commentating Paul and Sarah

I bought a 2014 two berth motorhome nearly 4 years ago for £35,500. I have just traded it in for a two year old caravan that was £30k. Got £33k off the dealer. That motorhome is now for sale for £44k

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

2 ай бұрын

Wow Kevin thats amazing would have thought their would have been a drop in price although not much at moment but thats a great bit of info and well done

Thanks Andy, good overview of the challenges facing the UK market

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

and thank you too for watching

its always sad to hear this sort of news. probably a few factors ( and some probably nowt to do with the caravan industry). i think there was a bit of profiteering going on during the covid period and now its payback time, not just caravans.

@anicegal

3 ай бұрын

Dont mention the B, word,

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

well possibly so but energy costs have hit hard and after a high a low was to follow but with only a handful of makes its sad times Paul as you say

@johnmcdyer7297

3 ай бұрын

Profiteering caravans swimming pool company’s they are all grabbing gits 1 example pool top up float £ 57 from certikin £12 from b&q same product next caravan mixer tap £78 from supplier of caravan £19 from eBay same tap firmly bollucks from me to swift and all the rest of them

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Caravan bits have always been a bit of a mystery its same with car parts to I have bought stuff cheaper than at the dealers and my local garage always are looking at e bay for a cheaper price for customers. Rear light clusters were expensive remember on my 99 Ranger cracking one reversing onto a pitch and then it was around £30 25 years ago - I never replaced it!

Another interesting vlog.Would hate to have a neighbour like that.I live on a farm so don’t have that problem -Nearest house is about a mile away !

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Oh how i envy you !!! its been a 20 plus year problem with police etc involved - thats life sadly!!

Thanks Andy - great to hear your perspective on this too. Andy

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Andy thank you! I could ramble on more but I need to stop myself!!!

@thetrackertravels

3 ай бұрын

@@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk FYI just home from a fab afternoon tour of Swift. Wow that is some operation!!

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

It is Andy thats a big machine isnt it! They told me they have invested lots of cash into the factory, I was invited to the opening of the HUB64 cafe great place for workers to meet and have some great lunches. Glad you liked your tour!

@thetrackertravels

3 ай бұрын

@@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk we were well looked after in Hub 64 and I liked the old photos of the place too.

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

One or two are mine I think that I included for their 50th year book I did

About time things came crashing down the greed and massively overpriced outfits, i will be a happy customer in the next few years when i cherry pick my next unit 😅😊

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

2 ай бұрын

Well its not good if they come crashing dpwn full stop as it will never recover, the days of new makers of tourers coming on the scene are gone sadly. But prices always sort them selves out in the end

Sit up and listen is what all the UK 4 need to do. No one has the spare cash anymore . Inflation and COL has wiped out savings and lowered pension pots. Currently the prices of new need to be more affordable. No one buying new will mean “ Everyone “ will suffer and if not done soon the whole leisure industry will come crashing down. Word to the wise on dealers ( look after your customers ) too many have not and now they could go the same way as Robinsons

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for that - hey I have know some dodge dealers over the years but they have survived seemingly. I will do another vlog soon on hoe this is history repeating itself so nothing new its just we hear more quicker on social media. Even good dealers can go under if nobody is buying nobody survives. - back around 30 years ago I went to a dealership for a magazine review - the used vans were not in great shape - they hadnt been prepared and looked like they didnt care. Yet I got chatting to a couple who said they bought there vans here for the advice and friendly attention-yes they said they dont do much to them but they looked after customers!

Sadly the industry is just like so many other things that are just wrong now in this country. We are vastly overcharged since Covid! Caravan sites are still charging vast nightly sums, £30 a night being around the norm now is vastly overpriced and something has to give!!

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

I am sure Covid has a lot to do with it , wish my earnings had gone up instead of being cut by 55 percent and thats the truth. Yes site fees are silly folk complain to me - but if your on a good wage or pension it wont effect you - sadly I am neither - thank you for commenting on the video.

Hi Andy, good to hear your views on the UK market. Can't see that happening over here in Ireland as dealerships are very scarce and new caravans are extremely hard come by leaving the used vans quite expensive. I have 2 and a half hour journey to get my caravan serviced to keep the guarantee right. Sorry you have a rather awkward neighbour, life's too short to worry about him.

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Yes your neck of the woods seems a lot diffrent than here and thats a long haul for a service but needed. Yes awkward is a kind word ha ha but more important stuff to worry about and thank you Kevin.

I've said for a while now the industry is nearly on its knees. The sheer greed of the manufacturers will bite them on the backside big time. It was only around 2007/08 when the mid range vans were all under 10k, avante, pageant, abbey vogue, swift charisma, lunar quasar and coachman amara. In the 80s 90s and 00s prices went up £150-£250 per unit per year. My avante 505 was £9995 in 2008. The equivalent today is 3 times the cost. It's another mortgage. My local dealer says if it wasn't for PCP schemes etc he would be out of business. You can't even go for a 2 night weekend away now for less than £120 . Cls are £30 now.

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Prices went up and in the mid 70s prices skyrocketed with inflation, oil crises 3 day week a caravan with the new VAT went up by 300 plus pounds and as more spec was added in the 80s onwards prices climbed further. Then slump and makers such as ABI and Cosalt slashed prices off their vans to help shift them UKs biggest CI went bust and the whole market was rocked some feared dealers would drop and some did - it did yes some makers went bust but there were plenty around.now fewer sadly. Sites yes they have gone up its got to effect sales - thanks for watching

@alarmactionukalarmactionuk893

3 ай бұрын

CL's £30 per night?

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Presume it depends on where and whats on the CL. those £5 a nights are well over from my early days!

@raymondporter2094

3 ай бұрын

Join the Camping & Caravanning Club! DA meets are held all over the country for weekends or 3/4 nights and in the North that's usually £10-12 per night. Or a THS for longer stays. Why spend £120 for a weekend unless you want to....?

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Hi Raymond that used to be the case where club rallies were popular but now most want full facilities on a site. But good advice thank you

We live on the Wirral. Our nearest caravan dealer is 20 mile away. If that closed I can't find another within 50 miles

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

At one time in that area you would have had several more on your doorstep - It could be a problem if more dealers go. Thank you for your input.

The thing is camp sites are now charging far to much per night now cheaper to go abroad for your holidays this happened several years ago every body getting to greedy, pricing general public out of the market.

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Caravanning is a lifestyle like motorhomes not the cheap holiday it once was Paul sadly - thanks

@leplessis8179

3 ай бұрын

A Devon campsite recently quoted me £28 for a night's stay - for my bike, and my tent! Henvic in Brittany, where there is a village-run site, charged me 3 Euros a night last summer!

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Hmm that is a big difference and interesting to hear thank you!

@Paul-pb3vq

3 ай бұрын

@@leplessis8179 Absolutely agree my friends love going to Europe in their motorhome. 12 weeks away, total cost including ferry, diesel, food, and spending money and other expenses less than £2000.

Are you aware of any problems with Swift? We ordered an Elegance Grande 860 with self levelling, air-con etc at the October NEC show. Originally Feb/Mar was given for the caravan to arrive at the Dealer, but this date seems to have been pushed further back. Apparently, our caravan has been built but awaiting transport and has been at that status for weeks now. The Dealer can't tell us when it is likely to arrive and Swift have just referred me back to the Dealer for the estimated time of arrival. We are due to go abroad in it in mid May, hence our concern at not knowing when it is likely to come in.

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

2 ай бұрын

I was at Swift yesterday and on the line they were building Elegance models so hope one is for you - no problems at factory all seemed smooth as normal on my visit - let me knowhjow you het on

I’ve always thought caravans were much better value than motor homes but people are free to choose! If the mad ban on petrol/diesel goes ahead both caravan and motor home sales will suffer. Sadly the present and likely future governments are both so stupid we may all suffer.

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

well said Thomas - your right on both counts !!

We were at Wandahome at the weekend, lots of the GT75s with big reductions. Is the thumbnail a picture of Wandahome?

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Hi Guys - - are right but is a while ago - Bailey have been giving dealerships for Bailey even close to other Bailey dealers and thats not gone down well! The GT75 has only been out for a short while so thats not a good sign. Hope to meet up with you soon we must be due a chat!!

Hi Andy keep going do not stop you are doing a Good job Thanks Andrew.

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Andrew - so good of you to say many thanks for that

Interesting to hear your views👍 the weather will also have a negative effect on the industry ! I think future generations will be mainly travelling abroad for retirement long breaks , it’s a no brainier. Who wants to sit in a wet field 🤔

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for that Paul - this happened in the mid 70's when package holidays became cheaper. Caravans were by that period that bit more expensive and rising in price. But caravanning still proved popular and folk could with the ferry services go abroad easier with their vans. I think it depends what you want in a holiday. I f I wanted sun then I would not go to the lakes for instance more chance of rain ha ha . People have different ideals for a break - for me a campervan in a layby wouldnt cut it for me, bur for some they love more basic holidaying. Interesting times ands thanks Paul for your thoughts

@geoffreyevans1549

3 ай бұрын

The wind and rain plagued us last year.just booking a few days in advance now

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Well hope weather improves at moment its bad, just want some dry good settled weather !!

Hi andy sorry for being quiet, me and hubby are still watching you, its a scary times for many buisnesses so many empty shops on the high street and losing well known traders inc caravan dealers. Ignore the haters there are a lot about, just do what makes you happy. Dont work too hard, take care x

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Julie - your great thank you for your concern - it is a bad time and its one I havent witnessed in years and then lived with parents but tough times are there to test you and all I want after several years is for it to ease! Plus owed money and taking over 2 years to get back even though the courts have favoured me - the guy can afford it but is ducking and diving - its quite an amount so cant be written off - anyhow thank you and yours for watching - ironically the subs has gone up 17 plus since friday and for me thats a hit !! - take it easy both of you

Interesting hearing you say that White Arches will be ok. I've heard on the grapevine that they're going under. Their accessories shop is virtually empty, as is their cafe.

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Well you may have heard different its just what I was told - I have never been out of many dealers I have visited - but back in the 90's there were several big concerns that went under it happens in all industries - great to hear from you

@SuperHatters1

2 ай бұрын

Now confirmed by the Northampton Chronicle, that White Arches have gone into administration, but have been bought by the Spinney group

Its all todo with£ this gov is eating into r save for a rainy day £ they can see wat we all hav in r banks thesedays saying oh look we hav to hav some off that 👊

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Yes they dont want money only banks so all money is tracked what we earn or in my case very little although I have never claimed off the system even when not working always paid own way and proud of it- yep they want our cash ha ha !

I think the euro 90day rule also has a bearing on where the retirement money is being spent, who wants to put 80k into something you can only spend 3mth of sun in?😮

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Interesting again its what folk want from a break I suppose but that was the ideal in caravanning was to go as and where you wanted many years ago parents friends used to go to spain in their tourer come back in march and caravan around the UK - folks expectations are different today than 50 years ago ! Thanks for watching

Prices don’t help, I sold my 2012 motorhome last March, I saw it for sale a month or so later for 7 grand more than I paid for it in 2019, 11months later it still hasn’t sold and although they have dropped the price it’s still for sale for more than I paid for it 5 years ago🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Great bit of comment their - yes dealer trying their luck prices were over inflated and now coming down sounds like they will need to slash price further still just shows how much money motorhomes can make anybody buying one needs to look around and check prices - thanks for sharing that

This is a worrying situation for the caravan industry. It seems to me not enough young people take up the hobby. My wife and I started at 27 years of age once our daughter was born. Both sets of parents were caravanning at the time, and had taken us from a young age. So I guess it was natural for us to do the same.

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

We were same first van bought in 1985 in our 20's my parents had been caravanners and grandparents in the 50s as a child I loved it making friends with other kids on the site!

60 grand for a basic entry model motorhome who can afford that

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

well some have been Steve but possible old pension pots which wont sustain the market - but beyond my means! Thanks

Been out of work before andy its not good but i have no sympathy with dealers at all just total rip off merchants bought from robinsons twice waste of space, another thing andy how can you and other people promote how good the manufacturers products are when thousands of buyers have had nothing but hassle nobody stands up and tells the truth.New coachman 2020 2 windows fell out done at least 15 jobs myself this same van now is £46000 what a joke i hope coachman and some others go under they just do not care what people have spent with them the tide as turned, anyway andy nothing personal best regard keith.

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Hi Keith - yes not good to be out of work no matter what job you do. Caravans over last few years have had problems down to suppliers to and the demand pushing makers to let stuff go through that shouldnt. I like others only see a new van thats usually in great shape but I have been on forecourts and some new vans have looked unfinished! But yes Keith I will say if I like a van and the problem with your Coachman was not unheard of with them. I dont want anyone to go thats not good for jobs and the industry and less models means less choice. I have heard of near new Hobby vans leaking something you would not expect. Sorry to hear of your Coachman problems I do know a couple who love their 2012 Pastiche its never had a scrap of trouble and would buy another. Right no offence taken Keith love your straight talking and thanks for taking time to comment

Expect more as the recession bites more....

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Hopefully it can be ridden but prices need to be affordable and caravans towable !! Thanks Alan

They have only themselves to blame stop robbing the public and have reasonable prices then they may survive I know it stems from the manufacturer who must make them better quality and a lot cheaper but together they don't help themselves

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Problem is that bad news travels fast and although quality should be better some do make a mountain out of a molehill - i had new vans with issues a new Ranger in 99 with a delaminating floor a Elddis in 91 with cracked paint on the door and rear roof seal badly fitted. A 95 Sprite with water leak in system and a front locker you could not fit a spare in - plus sliding door coming off its rail - but as long as they were sorted I was happy. my first new van a ABI Marauder in 87 was a brilliant tourer though the windows at the front saw the glazing come away a fault from the dutch maker - all sorted quickly and back on the road. Things were simpler and stuff got sorted - lets hope things improve sooner rather than later - thanks eathan

Coachman are now owned by a Swedish Co? Probably why Poland production is a choice.

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Yes Kabe of Sweden had 20% now fully own the company.Kabe also at one stage owned Fleetwood Caravans for some years from the 1980's to the late 90's. Then Adria bought them and closed the factory! Yes Polish labour cheaper but prices were around 80K plus.

Vans and caravans sales prices took advantage of cov..now we are able to move travel and holidays are cheaper abroad. ..so your stuck with over priced vehicles...and camp sites and parks prices don't help so you in the shit. 50 60 70 80 90 k for a van on wheels ...over priced simple..

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

I think site fees have also hit sales to but operating costs have risen considerably but I am sure some added an extra few quid for good measure - prices have gone over the most affordable models and now looking very expensive - older good used family models will prove still popular and prices stating relatively firm too.

£30,000 For a caravan is ridiculous.....Its a large box with a few bits in it. 30 grand?

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Materials have gone up and running costs too, back in the 70''s and 80's caravans didnt go up as much though the mid 70s did see caravans become expensive to what they had been back in the late 60's. - thanks for the comments and watching.

@VWT5Alive

3 ай бұрын

I’ve bought houses for less !

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

campervan prices are expensive to especially for the space you get but thats a different lifestyle glad you enjoy it

But we like you Andy

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Colin-your a pal! thank you

Don't agree from what I see there still selling well.as you say freind mine told me😂😂😂😂😂😂

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Well tourer sales are down and thats new of course 12,000 new vans made in 2023 and still a lot of those in the system as it were - yep some discounting around🙂

people make me laugh moaning about site prices sell your motorholme or caravan and rent a sheppards hut for £100 per night as bad as all the brain washed idiots who own electric cars get a life.

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

2 ай бұрын

Wow Kevin ! well yes I hear your point I think what folk look at is the cost of the caravan etc and I think they feel as though its a big pitch fee - yes your right about Glamping its not cheap either - and dont get me going on electric cars because that idea I think is flawed especially towing with one - which their are few that can tow anything decent! Thanks Kevin good heart felt comment!!

The best years of caravanning have long gone Andy. To complicated and everyone is stuck up their own arses, they can't even bother to talk to one another anymore. Everything breaks on them, you can't get at anything to repair stuff, basically they are shit. I'm sixty 2, one heart attack and died twice. You are around the same age, we are closer to death than birth and not long to go. The best years of living is gone, fuck the world. Wait until all the cars are electric, even the battery cars can only tow about 80 miles and that empty with just one driver, god knows what will happen to campers.

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Err well thanks Rob for that explicit comment! Hopefully we both have some years to go! Yes its all changed and caravanning is changed much from when I bought my van in 1985. When I caravanned then it still felt like the 70's with my parents. Things change but not always for the better - I reckon we had some great decades its a different world Rob. Just one thing could you just be a tad careful on the swearing - I know your fired up about your comment and I understand that but otherwise love the strong passion you had for caravanning as we both knew it.

@robbeard6929

3 ай бұрын

Sorry about the swearing, just the way I feel at the moment as in the process of emptying my Mams house as she died from dementia and going through slides, pictures, albums and all sorts. Sat on her bedroom floor balling my eyes out most days, very sorry about that and I mean it. Years gone by and never to be experienced again, sorry. @@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Hi Rob - no worries sorry to hear about your mum - i recently been going through stuff and memories are briught flooding back. Mum died at 59 just as parents had bought a new van - mum never got to use it - hard time at age 21 - dementia is terrible - look you have good memories and we cant turn clock back I wish I could many times, had some great times carefree! But changes are always happening Rob and I know last 4 year s for me and my family have been dogged by bad luck - im owed money I was scammed out of and earnings halved. Yes we had the good days - hope you come through your sorrow - keep your pecker up as folk say to me!

Wet damp Wendy houses on wheels, sites more expensive than premier inn and towing fuel costs etc why would anyone bother it's really general haulage self inflicted 😅

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

I think caravans have come along since that ha ha - but towing costs etc does play its part - many people love caravanning but there being squeezed out of it by the higher prices.

@VWT5Alive

3 ай бұрын

You’re being taxed out of your decent sized car for a tow car plus the cost of fuel ! I’ll stick with my VW camper van 😃

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

3 ай бұрын

Different lifestyle - but no body will be exempt soon - love T5's they drive well but campervan market also expensive and that bubble will burst seeing some smaller convertors go I reckon - thanks for comments.

@VWT5Alive

3 ай бұрын

@@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk You’re probably right, converters are wanting 70k for a base van costing maybe 40k so 30k to convert !

@caravanindustryexpertandyjenk

2 ай бұрын

I was talking to a dealer yesterday and he was saying same - he reckoned all makers had made a killing in Covid and now stock was overpriced - we will see some more discounting its happening on new tourers - thanks for the reply.