Think of the original Game Capture HD and HD60 as working very similarly to older USB 2.0 webcams - compressed video feed is sent to CPU/GPU to decode and then re-encode, causing plenty of problems along the way. *You don't actually want this.*

@SuperHooligan17

6 жыл бұрын

can you show how to use 2 gpu one to encode and 1 to game with nvenc for streaming please

@Raletia

6 жыл бұрын

I have the AverMedia Live Game HD (PCI-e x1) card. It can Encode video at the same resolutions/framerates that it can capture at. I use OBS and it can EITHER capture from HDMI -- OR -- Be used as an encoder in OBS instead of CPU or GPU rendering, but again only at the listed capture resolutions/framerates. I.e. 1080p 30fps, or 720p 60fps or several other combinations. It /CANNOT/ capture & be used by OBS to encode at the /same/ time.

@Raletia

6 жыл бұрын

I should add I use it in a two PC setup, but I have tested and it will encode for OBS but it's only useful in a 1PC setup as it will not function as a capture card when OBS is using it for x264.

@TheReflexAction

6 жыл бұрын

i have same capture card but i cant use as an encoder in OBS how did you manage that ?

@MarcRitzMD

5 жыл бұрын

"older USB 2.0 webcams" most of them are still the industry standard. And I have a feeling that they don't actually do what you are saying for their intended purposes. Software like Skype would just grab and forward the h.264 stream from the webcam over the internet. So, decode for viewing on one's own pc but no re-encoding. Have you checked the system requirements for video-chatting or recording with a c920 in FHD? Yeah, there is no realtime re-encoding happening on Core 2 Duos. In fact, you can grab the h.264 stream from these cameras with ffmpeg and some hacking. Xsplit has a deal with Logitech and I have a feeling they also utilize the h.264 streams natively.

In other words: A capture card only enable the PC to capture an external video signal from another device/PC, nothing else. It doesn't process or compress the signal. The CPU take the signal from the capture card and process it. The CPU still does the work, not the capture card.

@EposVox

6 жыл бұрын

CPU/GPU in the vast majority of cases, yep!

@Brentt777

5 жыл бұрын

That's what I started thinking. If that is the case then they need to explain the ridiculous high price of these devices. The boxes that don't use the pc, do compress the videos though. Some of the Cloner Alliance models do.

@MrJani0951

5 жыл бұрын

@@EposVox so CamLink also send compressed data/video to PC? Most expensive USB cards like Blackmagic, Magewell... don't compress the data and send raw data to PC.. if i right? I have now Megawell USB 4K Plus.

@user-fk8ut3vl2f

5 жыл бұрын

thanks,so I don't need capture card if i want to stream some game?

@romancotruta2603

5 жыл бұрын

so which game captures does that work?

I’m not a gamer, i’m a broadcaster, but I find your videos to be some of the more informative ones. Thank you.

@EposVox

6 жыл бұрын

Glad to help!

I recently got the HD 60 Pro BECAUSE it had an onboard "encoder" and was wondering why Elgato Game Capture software was using my system resources so much when it shouldn't. After watching this video now I understand why. 99% of the reviews on KZread said that it compresses your signal and takes the load of your computer some even mentioned while streaming. ALL MISINFORMATION. Your video helped in clearing out that confusion. Thanks.

@realsleepi

3 жыл бұрын

I'm still super confused, your computer plays the game and everything, then it outputs it to the monitor/elgato, then the elgato encodes it so there's no GPU impact and sends it to the PC to send to Twitch, correct?

@earlparkour9839

3 жыл бұрын

@@realsleepi No, that's what I am finding out. The HD60 Pro has onboard hardware encoding... however, it only functions with Elgato software. If you use OBS / SteamLabs OBS, you *can't* use the HD60 Pro card's onboard hardware. Instead, you will still have to use your CPU (or GPU) to do the encoding. Which is incredibly stupid and ruins the point of me buying the product. I wanted to take a load off my older CPU and GPU.

@realsleepi

3 жыл бұрын

@@earlparkour9839 agreed. Very dumb.

Am I the only one who finds it really difficult to follow what he's even talking about

@zVoltaze

4 жыл бұрын

at the start yes but then it began to make sense

@notrandom2

4 жыл бұрын

I just posted something similar. The dude includes the INCORRECT explanation... Why not just edit / cut it out? HE FUCKING EDITS IN the incorrect explanation/mistakes!!! LOLOLOL... Guy, Buddy.... make it understandable. I'm just lost now.

This is a great video with a lot of info to think about! I like to use the word "resampling" to provide context. Resampling to me is when a completely new copy of the video has been produced. Encoding seems to be a halfway mark where the video is not actually resampled but compressed so much of it may remain the same while other parts, mostly redundant data, is converted into objects that can be decoded easily. There are many layers of encoding from very light encoding to very heavy encoding. :) Keep up the great vids, they are fantastic and very helpful!

Thank you for explaining this so clearly. I always passively assumed that capture cards encoded video so that it was ready to be streamed or recorded without any processing needing done by my PC. It wasn't until yesterday that i realised there were alot of things that didn't add up with this theory, and this video explains it clearly, thanks!

Exactly for what I was looking for. Finally someone explains it very clear with a good sense. Man you great :D :D

Damn I clicked this so fast just to understand more about onboard encoders on some capture cards!

@EposVox

6 жыл бұрын

xD

good video. well done!

@EposVox

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, man. Love your videos.

So would a magewell card be all I need to live stream from my camcorder? I've got an old Asus Ultrabook core i5, 6gb ram with USB 3.0. what would you recommend for someone who chases storms to stream with a handyman?

Thank you for this video. I am planning to get an hd60 pro, so that I can hopefully record(only record) cpu intensive games on just 1 computer but was getting confusing info from various sources on whether it would allow me to take the encoding load off the cpu or if I would need a 2 computer setup(which I can setup easily but don't want to). Thank you for clarifying alot of the information out there

Thank you for clarifying all of this. I am looking to do some HDMI recording at highest resolution possible, so this is so helpful.

Summary: Onboard capture card H.264 or H.265 encoders only offload from your computer's CPU when 1. You are saving a copy of the capture to disk, *and* 2. Using the software that came with the card to do it. This is because most common streaming software such as OBS does not know how to interface with the hardware encoder of the capture card; what OBS gets is the raw digital stream instead, which the main CPU must encode. (Some notes or a script may have helped here.) This is why I've been using the NVENC block of nvidia GPUs since the GTX 970. If your source is a PC and you can select NVENC in OBS, OBS will use the GPU's NVENC block to encode the video instead of the main CPU. There is a slight single-digit fps hit when doing this, but if you're already exceeding 60fps, you won't notice it.

@EposVox

6 жыл бұрын

It's not just b/c of OBS not knowing how - that can be handled with a plugin - but it would be bad to do so because you're generally adding overlays, extra audio tracks, different scenes, etc. in OBS which would require re-encoding anyway.

@JimLeonard

6 жыл бұрын

EposVox Ah, now THAT is an excellent point! It might be worth checking out if hardcore streamers would benefit from a second (cheap) computer to only do the streaming.

@MileHighClubTV

6 жыл бұрын

Jim, this is a great constructive comment

I would really like to see you review some of the newer Magewell internal capture cards, like the Pro Capture Dual HDMI or Pro Capture Quad HDMI. If these cards are just bringing the signal in for the CPU or GPU to deal with, can a standard i7 computer really handle four HDMI signals at the same time and bringing them in to something like OBS? Or does one really need a separate box for dealing with multiple signals like that, like maybe the Livestream Studio HD550?

@EposVox

6 жыл бұрын

Depends on what you're actually trying to do. For something like OBS - you're not actually processing all 4 signals at one time, unless you're doing a 4-way split. Well, you're "processing" the signals, but not encoding them - which is where the real legwork is these days. So yes, a newer i7 can handle it. I've seen people with i5 and i7 laptops using VMix have a full live switcher going and handle fine with many many sources. It's the actual encoding process that does the most work - assuming you have a decent GPU to composite/render the scene. Trying to use OBS on an Intel iGPU alone at all is going to be a bad time, period. At least get a GTX 1050 in there. I'd love to get ahold of their multiple input cards and go for a spin, but they're... difficult... to work with, heh. Maybe after I finish my 4K60 review for them. As long as you have enough PCIe lanes to throw at the card, an i7 can handle the encode no different than any other encode at your target resolution, really.

@TheAstrologyPodcast

6 жыл бұрын

I'm in the process of building a new PC now with an i7-8700k + GTX 1070, and I would like to be able to use it to stream and record educational videos where I can show at least one 1080p camera via HDMI plus at least one HDMI signal from an iPad in order to draw and do demonstrations via split screen at the same time. I get the sense from what you are saying and what I've read elsewhere that the computer would probably be able to handle those two signals simultaneously in OBS, although maybe things could get dicey if I tried adding another camera or two simultaneously. This was the alternative idea to trying to use two Elgato Cam Links. Side note: all of your videos have been incredibly helpful over the past year or two, especially the capture card videos, and I appreciate the honesty and self-reflection in this one. Keep up the good work.

What do you recommend for game streaming on a laptop?

Thanks for this video. Much needed to clear the air. Now i am clear what to purchase next and not waste my money.

@ognzone3913

6 жыл бұрын

Dishank Jindal I got your comment what a coincidence 😆

One weird special case, where a capture card is needed on a single-pc setup, is when OBS is having a fit with some game titles or when trying to record UWP games like the Forza series or DX12 games. I have problems with OBS crashing when using my custom post-processing shaders in a PC game (to make it supersparkly) and using a capture card circumvents that nicely. It's a hassle, but it sort of works. : )

@EposVox

5 жыл бұрын

Yep! Those and Destiny 2 - rare case where it does make sense.

Never seen your videos before but you just earned a subscriber I like the fact you actually explain in detail how the capture cards work compared to other videos that just try to make them flashy to sell... I been thinking of getting a Elgato 4k 60 pro to display my consoles on PC I plan on getting an RTX 2070 Super to go with it but just curious how it will perform. Since I'm not a streamer but someone who likes to mess about with tech and being able to display consoles on a PC is something I have wished to do for a while now.

Thank you for the clarification 👌 I've been seriously getting into streaming recently and have been trying my best to learn everything that there is and understand every last detail there it to learn. To the point where the last 30 minutes I went from "obs is the best way to stream for performance and stream quality" to "the hd60 pro has an onboard encoder that could than take a load off my PC and increase the quality even more?! (While using obs and only for streaming)" and then to "IF I DO THIS WILL IT MURDER MY ENTIRE SETUP AND EVERYTHING IVE WORKED ON IN THE LAST WEEK IN OBS AND RUIN EVERYTHING?!?!" Now to, calmly this time, "oh it's (the onboard encoder) just for recording footage, but I can still use it to stream console if I want too. Cool beans" gotta say, in a 30 minute span that was a lot of emotional ups and downs lmao

@EposVox

6 жыл бұрын

Also important factor: That recording encoder only gets used in Elgato's software, not OBS. So if you have things set up in OBS how you like, there's no need for the card.

@Kasoyavich

6 жыл бұрын

@@EposVox thanks for the reply! If I do ever indeed get the card I'll use it to stream consoles exclusively, are you able to setup overlays and such in elgatos software though similar to obs?

@EposVox

6 жыл бұрын

You can - kzread.info/dash/bejne/imqurrGFlL3Jf5c.html that tutorial shows how. not as good as OBS IMO, but it's certainly a usable option

@TherRevenantTiger

4 жыл бұрын

Hope you’re still streaming and that it’s going well for ya

Thanks for the explanation. It made me appreciate what elgato has to offer for video capturing.

Oh my god, thank you so much for explaining this! Since I got my HD60 Pro a bit less than a year ago, I was thinking that I could somehow enable hardware encoding and it would work similar to NVENC. Thank you for clearing up my misunderstanding.

Dude the hd60 pro is giving me all sorts of issues I have a PC with a i7 7700k with 32 gigs of RAM when it works it works well but most of the time it just takes a shit. Any advice?

i know its old video, i wanna ask, can i record if my setup like this, display port from VGA to monitor with gsync on, and hdmi vga to hdmi in (hd60 pro) and i dont want to use hdmi out in hd60 pro. thx, will it record smoothly ? or have problem.

thanks much for clearing this up. Really helped clear up some confusion I had

came exactly where i wanted to learn thanks, i subbed to your channel

Thank you for this video haha saved me money and time!

Great video with a lot of really good info. Thanks for this.

@EposVox

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Thank you for saving me a lot of money! 🙏🙌

@EposVox

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

What's the differences between using your computer and OBS to stream/capture and using an internal capture cards?

You are correct about the AverMedia Live Gamer HD. I've got one, and you can use the built in encoder for streaming in OBS, but normally I wouldn't recommend it, as it's fairly limited.

How about if i wanna live-stream from DSLR camera to YT, FB or other - what kind of capture card do i need? Same ? Do i need a secondary PC for that aswell? Im fresh, new to this .. so i dont know what things i need in order to stream from cameras, or maybe even games etc .... would i need two capture cards for both stuff or? How to configure systems for streaming? For starters i only have one PC for now.... and a camera (Canon 800D /T7i), .... Thank you for reply

Thanks, a lot! I have a question. I have i7 -6900k CPU, is this good CPU to record a 4k 60fps? With using elgato 4k60 of course. If not, what I should buy?

@EposVox

6 жыл бұрын

Yes! You'll still need to leverage your GPU (Nvidia preferred) for hardware encoding, but 6900k is definitely good enough -- that's what most of my usage has been on.

@BrotTV

6 жыл бұрын

So As you mentioned in this video I have to buy at least Geforce 1050? "You'll still need to leverage your GPU (Nvidia preferred) for hardware encoding" - this option have i set up? I yes, where? :) Your channel is great! And very helpful

@EposVox

6 жыл бұрын

The 6900k can't operate without a graphics card in the first place, so if you're using it you likely have one, heh. But yes you need at least a 1050.

@BrotTV

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, yes, I have 770, but I wanted to know, which is better to 4k60 :) Thanks, a lot! One and the last question, which monitors you recommend to recording? 4k60fps? I will probably buy gpu 1080 to Recording PC, I have one in Gaming PC.

Hi bro! I have Magewell 4k. Which parameters for h.264? => Bitrate, key frame, Mode, Encoder, Quality?

PLEASE RESPOND/HELP...I have msi gaming x 1080 ti and i7-8700k, woulf I still need a dual pc setup just to record??I been having issues every since receiving card,using with xsplit as well as obs.I play games/PUBG in full screen and my video always freezes completely when i go back to relook at video and or green artifacts throughout WHOLE recording.Im recording to a ssd,samsung 860 and 850,as well as a 850 m.2.Still always the same results.Please give me any advice or tips to fix issues so I can use card????

I have a question for everyone here who does streaming. I'm trying to set up 2 Logitech C920 cameras and an Elgato HD60 S to stream at the same time using OBS(not Streamlabs OBS). Currently I'm only able to get 1 camera and the Elgato working. I have the second camera connected to the computer and rid setting it up in OBS but I get no video signal in OBS. Can anybody tell me if there is something I'm missing from my setup?

Hi, did something like i5 core 4 generation with gt 1030 with ddr5 2GB would do a 1080p 60/30 fps on obs? My current capture card is Avermedia LGP 1.

Thank you!

so if i'm using a single PC set up to game and record/stream, i'm better off with Shadowplay and OBS using my GPU? having an elgato would either be overkill or cause more problems than it solves right? thanks so much for the video man!

I just purchased the Pengo HDMI to USB-C 4k Grabber said to output 4k @30fps. I seems to do this but my computer "seems" unable to manage it at 4k. The CPU usage goes over 100% and it drops frames. I'm using the micro HDMI output from a Sony ZV-1F set to 4k, OBS and an Intel I-5 with 12 gig of DDR4 Ram. It can do 1080 and even 4k at 10fps but nothing beyond that. You mentioned some of the capture cards have a compressed output requiring heavy CPU usage and that a raw uncompressed signal is better. Do you think this card has a compressed output and that is why my computer struggles? Another question; Since I have 12 gig of ram and my videos are short (1-2 minutes) why couldn't it buffer the unprocessed data and "catch up" after I end the recording?

Hey i need to buy a gameplay recorder, which one do you recommend me? i see this video was from february, tell me which one should i buy? having in mind i will use it with my xbox1 and only have a HP core i5 5 gen Laptop integred video card with 4GB ram - Notebook HP 245 G5.

So then if I wanted to get something that will lessen the load on my pc during recording, and it isn't a dedicated capture/recording device, then is the only solution to just buy a better cpu and gpu?

One quick question: When I stream Battlefield 2042 while playing on the same pc I have performance issues. But when I stream Call of Duty for example there is no issue. (but fps drops everytime from example: 120 fps to 70 is that normal using the nvenc encoder? System: R5 5600x RTX 3080 32GB 3600mhz

@EposVox, just found this video and while I think I understand it, I still hoping to be lighten about this. I'm gaming on my PC with dual monitor setup, game usually on Gsync screen and the other is on HDMI. I'd like to record and stream my gameplay. Do I need a capture card or I can get away with using something like Shadowplay and OBS?

My friend wants to live streaming picture from ps4 to youtube. There are two option remote play to pc or avermedia/elgato. He also want's cam and mic. Miniature cam picture and ps4 in background and game sound + mic sound. So if he want's to stream just desktop (ps4 remote play) with cam and mic what is best option?: Streaming X264 via cpu like r5 1600af or Streaming NVENC gtx 1050ti/1660? Option two using avermedia/elgato: He want's to talking during live streaming so i m not sure about input lags in that situations. I mean OBS can make audio shift but not sure if can make shift for cam to synchronize cam with game and voice from microfone. For streaming: ps4 ->grabber->pc->YT: what is best option? Streaming via cpu like r5 1600af? or Streaming via gtx 1050ti/1660? or Cheapest procesor and cheap GPU(example - 650gtx) Because with grabber don't need cpu/gpu that much?

Thanks, this video helped alot

So with capture cards can i record my computer screen without the problem of my recording getting corrupted? And will there be a setting in obs or something

So what capture card would you recommend? Elgato HD 60 pro?

I Want to record from Steam to Elgato HD60 Pro but it only records the window screen.

So, knowing this, I have a question: Let's say I have a very weak CPU and GPU. Could I record to file a raw unprocessed video through a capture card to my PC without it using my PC's resources for anything more than disk transfer.. Then afterwards, I can convert the unprocessed file to an extremely high quality H.264 file, which would take a very long time with a weak CPU, and then I upload the result.. So basically, despite having a very low end PC, I am still able to record the highest quality video and upload it, without the need for a better CPU?

could i just use my cpu for then encoding if im doing 1080p gamplay?? in obs?

Does the amount of ram matter on the 1050? Can I go with the cheapest option and go with a 2 gig card? This is of course in a dedicated streaming pc.

So.. Will a device like this record gaming sessions on my pc, despite me not being able to record due to having the wrong type of gpu???? - Like, I get error messages when I try to record videos with things like fraps or the xbox recorder. Apparently it's due to my graphics card not being the right kind...

Wait so if i'm just recording on my pc not using external device as source Then is there any benifit with elgato Or is just Nvenc enough ? So really no point for me ?

Thinking of capturing vr gameplay. What would u suggest? Would a say hd60 pro help record SBS view?

Can I have some advice please? I'd like to live stream my Xbox One gameplay to KZread on an average pc. I can stream with the xbox app and obs but it's not great quality. What type of card do I need? Do any have built in processors so not to slow down my pc? Thanks

@EposVox can you please do a video with the carpture cards linux ready that you consider are the best ? I have a ubuntu computer for streaming but I do not know what will be the most 100% linux compatible and good to use.

Thank you for EXPLAINING the GPU requirement for the 4k60 Elgato. This is what I came here looking for.

So could one not Set this up on the streaming PC, OBS Preview out monitor to HD 60PRO - Record Master OBS Program utilizing hardware of Elgato? Kinda like DVD days when u had a DVD card that decoded and then put it back into your video card.

so from what I got, is the HD60 Pro good? I bought it a few days ago and its arriving soon

Thank you. This was very helpful. I nearly bought an HD60 (No S) thinking it would reduce the load on my computer. Now I know better. 😉👍

So I wanna start by saying I enjoy your content and it has definitely taught me some things I did not know. Which is why I wish to pose this question. Should I downscale the signal on my elgato hd60pro for obs. Meaning 1080p60fps-720p60fps or should I send the data 1080p60fps straight to obs to downscale? The way I received your info makes me feel like my computer is doing more work having the capture card downscale rather than obs and this is a 2 PC setup. Please correct me if I am wrong. Thank you in advance. I want make sure I understood what you were saying.

@EposVox

6 жыл бұрын

If you're only targeting 720p period, it's worth setting the HD60 Pro to 720p just in case.

Can a capture card help stop lag when streaming on a ps4

I'm still super confused, your computer plays the game and everything, then it outputs it to the monitor/elgato, then the elgato encodes it so there's no GPU impact and sends it to the PC to send to Twitch, correct?

@EposVox

3 жыл бұрын

Nope that’s the opposite of the takeaway here

Hey Epos i know this video is a bit old but I would really appreciate if you could answer a question that I have which is more directed to encoding a video generally. I have an Athlon 2 X4 cpu (so 4 cores in it) and a laptop with an i5 8th gen which when I searched on Intel's website it actually has 4 cores too. Would the video quality differ on these 2 processors considering that both have 4 cores ? Or does it actually matter that one is newer than the other ? The answer would really help me to choose what to use as a video recording source as I plan to make a 2 computer setup. Thanks

Does a capture card like make my cpu usage go down by that streaming the thing instead of obs streaming it and I’m playing at the same time my cpu usage is high

@EposVox

5 жыл бұрын

I'd suggest re-watching the video, that question is what this specific video was created to address. (Short answer: no, not at all)

What do you think about the LCC260 Capture card?

Well with this info now im a bit confused.. I want to stream, and record videos, but never at the same time. But streaming and recording with OBS is KILLER on my system, even though i have a Ryzen 1700 OC 4ghz and a 1080ti. Do I invest in a capture card? or are my settings in OBS just messed up?

@EposVox

6 жыл бұрын

A capture card will not help you here. You should be streaming w/ X264 and recording w/ NVENC for best results, should not be killer at all. See my OBS Master Class for more info. kzread.info/head/PLzo7l8HTJNK-IKzM_zDicTd2u20Ab2pAl

@noahashton3252

6 жыл бұрын

I didn't think so. Awesome, will definitely check it out, thanks!

@RichMantaray

6 жыл бұрын

use the elgato hd60 , to record , while your gpu does the leg work for the stream

@Lolimaster

6 жыл бұрын

1st you need to record ON A DIFFERENT DRIVE than your OS/APP/GAME install.

Thank you so much for clearing this up! I, and many fellow Twitch streamers believe that the HD60 Pro actually enhances the encode process - BUT ITS NOT THE CASE! You've got some good videos man. I've already watched more tonight than I normally do in a week :)

@EposVox

6 жыл бұрын

Haha glad you're enjoying them :D

Hey there. Im trying to build a 2nd pc for capturing my stream. Could i build a 2nd pc with a CPU that has integrated graphics and use the HD60 pro in that? or would i still need a grapics card? im still a little new to building so sorry if this is a dumb question lol

Hi @EposVox i hope you see this and maybe can help me out :) I have a Nintendo switch, but i need a way to hook it up to my computer so i can play on my switch and talk on discord on my computer at the same time and only using a headset :) Can a Elgato card do the job ? if yes, is there any difference from the 4K60 pro, HD60 Pro or the HD60 S ? i am only looking for a way to see the "live view" i do not want to capture, stream, record or anything.. just live view :) and with the best quality and "lag free" as possible. is this what i'm looking for ?

Maybe you can help me with my setup. I have i7-8700 - 5.2Mhz and 1x8gb of ram. I have no videocard. Also i have elgato HD 60S. I use this hardware to stream from my xb1x. So when im using x264 and stream 720p 29.97 - its al good. But if i try 59.94 or 1080p 59.94 it's kind of mess. OBS doesnt work good. System says that my procesor coder is over overfucked. So i do not understand how it could be? Seriously i7-8700k cant handle 1080p 60fps? Or it cant handle with all my overlays and gamecapture card signal? Could it be the problem in 1x8gb of ram? Maybe i need the dualchanel mode active and i need one more 1x8gb of ram? Or i need 1050ti and use tne nvenc? Thanks.

I much more interested in how to use a capture card and what are the requirements for setup

Correction: The Nvenc between the GTX 1050 all the way up to the newest GPU's is the same, but with the GTX 1080 and past that NVENC has two encoder threads and not one, meaning a GTX 1080 doing Nvenc will encode twice as fast as a GTX 1070 for example

@EposVox

6 жыл бұрын

It will not do it "Twice as fast" - no, that's not how it works. It can handle two *different streams* at once for the 1000 series, but it will not do it "twice as fast."

really great explanation. Question, maybe it was answered. With the 4k60 pro can I record in 1080p60 but passthrough 1440p120hz?

@EposVox

2 жыл бұрын

Yep!

Hi there, I was wondering Would this device take a Skype video call from one laptop send it to another to be used on streamlabs to save the cpu on the main streaming laptop.

Generally 90% of these are just an interface trans coder. taking HDMI signals and converting them to a stream able format that (YOUR SOFTWARE OF CHOICE WRITES IT TO DISK OR STREAMS). if you device has a built in encoder the software that came with that device will utilize it for what it says it is for. You are correct the hd 60 pro encodes a "master copy"(their marketing term) or a high quality file for latter editing. but this is only available for game cap hd software. then it sends a signal for streaming. Remember these capture cards are for external gaming or HDMI and not for capturing your gaming desktop on the same computer. many people are moving to using 10 gigabit Ethernet between two PCs for PC gaming streaming. OBS has network raw video transmission built in. this is a very high level video and i like it enough to sub to you but damn there is a bit of stepping on your own toes repeating some things here and there. there is really three types of capture devices. one is for external low latency such as usb3.0 hdmi devices ie(game cap HD 60s) two is hdmi camera devices ie(camlink). three is 2nd PC streaming devices ie(hd 60 pro PCIe) some can do all of the above and others are for lower latency tasks. elgato closely works with popular streamers who have multi PC setups and need plug and play solutions. and TBH their game Cap HD software is very robust and works very well. i personally think that there are folks who want a one shot solution for everything. and right now there isn't one. so you have OBS for desktop capture and Game Cap HD for console capture.

@EposVox

6 жыл бұрын

"Stepping on my own toes" to make sure things are abundantly clear because just saying things once/in one way means 50-50 chance people will still wind up confused or I will get a lot of stupid questions asking me to repeat myself in text form. Even had my Elgato contact and an OBS dev fact-check to make sure things were explained appropriately :)

@swa99a10

6 жыл бұрын

EposVox why do they have to be stupid questions? Why cant they just be questions, people, subs come to this channel because it is super informative and there are questions to be answered. I get what your saying, just think there was a better way of saying it. P.s. thanks for the effort and information you put in your vids.

thank you for explaining

@EposVox

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Hey man can u help me with my elgato hd60 s+ it’s not always saving the record and can’t find it in obs as video source but I can find it as game capture:S

If i got the 4k 60 pro would i have to download anything or could I just have it running straight to my stream using SLOBS

Yeah I was a little confused too up until I seen this today. I thought a capture card always had an encoder like NVENC or something and writes to disk out goes through OBS. But I started to question this when I built my steam PC a few days ago around the Avermedia Live Gamer 4K. It needed a pretty beefy PC lol. Thanks for the video!

So what you are saying is that the GTX 970 would not be good enough for the 4K60 Pro at 1080p 144hz with a dual PC setup ?

@EposVox

6 жыл бұрын

970 would be fine for 1080p, but not for 4k.

@Wipspeed

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks that makes me so happy hearing that. Here's a other question, i'm been running two elgato HD60Pro in my dedicated streaming / recording PC since 2016, do you know of the 4k60Pro would have any conflict with the HD60Pro in the same system ?

Thank you very very much sir!

I have one question, so avermedia live gamer 4k has h.265 when you use recentral in single mode uses h.265 to encode from external signal so... if i use my hdmi output from my pc to my avermedia and use recentral to record it would help with the encoding insted of using OBS to record from a full screen or window mode? those that make sence? Would be most like using another PC to encode except it still consumes HDD for storing resource.

@EposVox

5 жыл бұрын

If you're talking about a single PC setup, no - it's still using your GPU to encode the H265, not the card itself, so it'd be no different than OBS, it would be not like using another PC at all.

@ADuBiuS

5 жыл бұрын

@@EposVox Ok, thank you so much for the reply, i will never the less be doing some tests on the card as i receive my avermedia. keep up the good work :)

how do i record and stream gameplay without 2 pc stream setup without any lag

Understood, thanks for the vid!

@EposVox

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Hey great video, this sparked a question. Now i stream PC games via OBS Game Capture, and i use my Avermedia Live Gamer HD encoding chip to upload to twitch. Does this mean that im still using CPU to uncompress and recompress and upload or is the encoding chip in the avermedia compressing everything on the canvas and uploading via hardware contained in the PCIe? Please see this comment as you know allot about this stuff and explanations are concise. Thanks!

@EposVox

6 жыл бұрын

Using cpu

Can I record BIOS screen videos using anything?

@EposVox

6 жыл бұрын

Most modern capture cards will accept it.

Can capture card Connect pc to laptop together?

Does live gamer hd 2 1080p use built in h.264 video encoding chip if i live streaming or its use only i recording video

@EposVox

3 жыл бұрын

Hd2 only uses it in recentral and only for recording

EposVox Right now I have on streamPC 1700 ryzen 3,9ghz with 3200mhz ram and with elgato hd60s my obs settings - ez 720p slow (max 810p slow x264) - and I'm afraid to buy 4k60pro, because most likely I will have to reduce the preset x264 - because I'm using the 1440p144hz monitor... and I can not understand how much I will have to reduce x264?

@EposVox

6 жыл бұрын

In theory you won't have to reduce much if you're still pushing a 720p/810p stream. There's diminishing returns going from medium to slow, so you should be fine. But I have no way of telling you exact impact difference.

@SteryRJV

6 жыл бұрын

EposVox thnx!!!

G'Day EposVox... Great video full of awesome information which is, sadly, mostly useless to me as a 'lay folk'... I don't speak computer well. All I am wanting to do is setup a good hdmi pass through device that can record full 4k quality footage to my pc so that I can edit the footage later using Premiere Pro... No streaming. What would you recommend as the best option to record 4k quality gameplay from my Xbox One X to my PC? Cheers

I ask why the Epiphan DVI2PCIe is so expensive (900+) and is it work it?

So well made video, Thank You.

@EposVox

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Thank you for very helpful video. As I understand now, it is very important to understand, that hardware encoder means something different than its expected to mean. Because of my laptop is not very powerful (MSI GX60, year 2013 gaming laptop) I was needed to replace LGP Lite (GL310) on another external card that have hardware encoder to be able to capture in 1080p60 mode from my PC. I have tried LGP2 and Live Gamer mini capture cards (GC311), but they don't have TRUE hardware encoding possibilities (as I understand after analysis of your video). With LGP2 and LGMini I've had a problem with 100% CPU usage while capturing. After your video I obtained Elgato HD60 and its solved my problem (in 1080p60 mode now I have 40-50% CPU load).

This video was super helpful. I want to get a capture card so that I can record Nintendo Switch gameplay, but I can now see that I will at least need a dedicated graphics card, which will be hundreds of dollars. I'm still not sure if my Intel Core i5 CPU will be powerful enough.

Plz someone responds!! So if I buy a capture card, and plug it into a computer that's not very good with recording but games fine, will it record my games and voice smoothly?

@gabrielnedu6367

3 жыл бұрын

It depends on what kind of recording setup you want to have. As explained in the video if you plan to game and record from 1 pc, buying a capture card and hoping that it will record and encode the video so that the cpu/gpu usage doesn't jump through the roof, wont actually help you. If you plan to use 2 PCs, one to game and one to record then the capture card will help.

Great video now I understand was thinking of going with aver just because my son is 9 and starting this journey on gaming and wanted soming simple so he can do him self and not having to set up OBS and running through a computer it's great it has an SD card slot makes it easy do you think this is the right direction thanks

2:00 what game is that? ty

I wish there was a clear and concise video like this before I purchased the Elgato HD60. I am happy that I can capture gameplay from my Nintendo Switch and PS4, It works fine, but now I wonder if I should upgrade to the Pro, or the HD60S?