"Capitalism in Africa has failed": Meet the Socialist Running for President of Zambia

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Fred M’membe, leader of the Socialist Party of Zambia, is running for president in the upcoming August election. Can he win? He joins Rania Khalek Dispatches to discuss the failure of capitalist policies on the African continent and how his party's platform can fix it.
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TIME CODES:
1:35 Zambia Socialist Party platform
3:44 How Zambia's privatized healthcare system failed against Covid
5:51 History of leftism in Zambia and legacy of anti-imperialist revolutionary Kenneth Kaunda
8:40 Fred M'membe's background in journalism and in the South African Communist Party
10:15 Devastating impact of 30 years of neoliberal reforms imposed on Zambia
14:37 How to restructure Zambia's mining economy to serve the people
18:55 State repression against the Socialist Party of Zambia
22:37 How Zambia's struggles fit into broader struggles and resistance on the African continent
25:24 The role of China in Zambia
30:58 Is socialism on the rise in Africa?
36:51 Can a socialist win in Zambia?
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  • @FCApatrideUTD
    @FCApatrideUTD3 жыл бұрын

    Good theoretician and a pragmatic politician. Thank you Rania for bringing his struggle to light.

  • @jcephrie
    @jcephrie3 жыл бұрын

    Right on. This video is what I want to see more of. We need more international solidarity.

  • @EzraMerr

    @EzraMerr

    3 ай бұрын

    Internazism.... hmm

  • @platosbeard4449
    @platosbeard44493 жыл бұрын

    Rania, outdoing yourself with one insightful interview after the other. Thank you very much. Dr Fred M’Membe seems clearheaded and an authentic socialist. I’ll be following the elections and wish Zambians the best.

  • @MrBreeze66

    @MrBreeze66

    2 жыл бұрын

    But the brutality in Zambia was committed by the democratic socialists, can’t say that capitalism failed, it hasn’t been capitalist there since 2008.

  • @emerson3070
    @emerson30703 жыл бұрын

    Some actual political coverage on Africa, that is not preachy

  • @nick6426
    @nick64263 жыл бұрын

    A very important interview thanks

  • @EliDecker
    @EliDecker3 жыл бұрын

    This is a great interview!

  • @lalimba6853
    @lalimba68532 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this great interview Rania!!

  • @falconking1337
    @falconking13373 жыл бұрын

    #FranceMustPayGuineaReparations!🇬🇳

  • @sadlunafairy
    @sadlunafairy3 жыл бұрын

    amazing interview! love from india!! ♥️

  • @emerson3070
    @emerson30703 жыл бұрын

    Good answer to the China question, but in a real political way, I sense something there, interesting

  • @tkcolonyone
    @tkcolonyone Жыл бұрын

    Awesome!❤

  • @petercoombes6602
    @petercoombes66022 жыл бұрын

    Fred M’membe is very inspiring. It would be great if the socialist won. M’membe is one of the voices of real socialism, the real word of socialism. I loved watching the contrast of the two cultures and the rythym of speaking. The fast talking American, seemingly impatient and ready to cut in. The methodical and mesmerizing beat of Africa. Considering each thought so as to be precise and careful. It draws the listener in, with time we can learn to wait.

  • @mathematicalgeek8657

    @mathematicalgeek8657

    Ай бұрын

    How will his Socialism succeed? Every form of Socialism from the USSR to Tanzania's Socialism has failed.

  • @scy9272
    @scy92723 жыл бұрын

    The state of Kerala, India, has a communist government and out of all of India, handled the covid situation very well too!!!

  • @thingjinlek3757
    @thingjinlek37573 жыл бұрын

    Very impressive questions and answers.

  • @georgecitizen
    @georgecitizen3 жыл бұрын

    Rania thank you for bringing Africa to primetime.

  • @kdchen6131
    @kdchen61313 жыл бұрын

    CIA: Let's arrange some scandals for him, end his career of political!

  • @binnahgondwe5158

    @binnahgondwe5158

    11 ай бұрын

    He got arrested 7 days ago on questionable evidence. Solidarity to him ✊🏾

  • @edmundlubega9647
    @edmundlubega96473 жыл бұрын

    We Ugandans will benchmark with the Zambians

  • @buravan1512

    @buravan1512

    2 жыл бұрын

    a well practiced SOCIALISM might solve a lot of problems back home, most of AFRICAN NATIONS got a lot of wealth that they dont control, from PARK, FACTORIES, BUSINESSES ... they have to be nationalized, Competent Native Africans have to be put infront.

  • @shauncameron8390

    @shauncameron8390

    Жыл бұрын

    @@buravan1512 Like it did in Zimbabwe and Mozambique?

  • @beni718
    @beni7183 жыл бұрын

    Awesome.

  • @richardbruce8869
    @richardbruce88693 жыл бұрын

    RIP Kenneth Kaunda

  • @Vivacious_Lenin
    @Vivacious_Lenin3 жыл бұрын

    Based!!

  • @zenge.simakoloyi546
    @zenge.simakoloyi5462 жыл бұрын

    Just an update, his party got less that 1% of the vote in August 2021 and a social liberal president won with 59% of the vote.

  • @MABfan11
    @MABfan113 жыл бұрын

    i really hope a socialist revolution happens in Africa

  • @friggakarl2995

    @friggakarl2995

    3 жыл бұрын

    they started in the 50s but the CIA killed all important leaders

  • @kayongofwoloshi693

    @kayongofwoloshi693

    2 жыл бұрын

    It happened way back in the days after independence from 1964 to around 1990s...it failed. that's when we changed to a more mixed economy which is mostly socialist

  • @obeahman6286

    @obeahman6286

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kayongofwoloshi693 It did not "fail", it was derailed. Nkrumah was overthrown, Lumumba was dissolved in acid, Sankara was shot and others.

  • @jayfizz545

    @jayfizz545

    10 ай бұрын

    @@obeahman6286 exactly these people should telll the truth . The west would rather see your people burn and die then let you succeed with socialism

  • @chroma._.5986

    @chroma._.5986

    9 ай бұрын

    @@kayongofwoloshi693bro thinks africa is socialist 😂😂

  • @sylviabute7530
    @sylviabute75302 жыл бұрын

    This is great news that there are revolutionary forces in Zambia. I agree with everything that has been said. Africa's problem today is directly linked to 400 + years of imperialism. Before we judge the Chinese we need to ensure we are getting the truth. The imperialist forces are putting out lies about china. Imperialist forces don't like what is happening with China in Africa because the Chinese are dealing with Africa on equal terms. Imperialism don't want capitalism to go. Capitalism and Imperialism is no good for Africa.

  • @friggakarl2995
    @friggakarl29953 жыл бұрын

    Hoping that the socialism in Zambia will prevail ! CIA stay out of Zambia ! USA, let the people of Zambia construct their socialism ! Western powers, stop your neocolonialism in Africa, Asia and South America !

  • @unlockwithjsr

    @unlockwithjsr

    3 жыл бұрын

    Are you from Zambia ?

  • @kundakaps

    @kundakaps

    3 жыл бұрын

    He will not win. The race is between the incumbent president (the worst sociopathic president thus far) and the largest opposition UPND. Fred M'membe used to have the most widely distributed newspaper. He is very well known. However he needs time to position himself as the alternative. He is actually married to the former UPND (largest opposition) founder and leader Anderson Mazoka's daughter. Whether he can walk the walk remains to be seen. He used to live large driving fancy cars back in 2010 when I lived in Lusaka.

  • @kontankarite

    @kontankarite

    3 жыл бұрын

    ALL POWER TO THE PEOPLES OF AFRICA! ✊

  • @anthonymanderson7671

    @anthonymanderson7671

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@unlockwithjsr I am zambian here

  • @kelly980
    @kelly9803 жыл бұрын

    cheers

  • @jamesbanda7069
    @jamesbanda7069 Жыл бұрын

    I am a Zambian, capitalism may not have worked in democracy, simply because of bad leadership or mismanagement, he doesn't have the capacity to bring good leadership in Zambia, let us find other system of government in Zambia and not the Socialism, it's not for us, this man might be sponsored by China, is there for the money, look at his mentor ANC in South Africa,how they failed dismally

  • @gannibalof21st
    @gannibalof21st3 жыл бұрын

    If you're listening to this please pay attention rather than leaving a negative comment without comprehending what the man is saying.

  • @kingaruba5140
    @kingaruba51403 жыл бұрын

    说得不错

  • @mranderson4739
    @mranderson47393 жыл бұрын

    👍

  • @DataJYdocs
    @DataJYdocs3 жыл бұрын

    Nato promotes survival of the economically fittest where the 'loosers' are simply casualties (underachievers). However, the World desperately needs some kind of 'reinvented definition' for socio-cultural framework (ie: humanism) with global coordination and collaboration (ie: universalism). [the terms socialism and communism will always be hounded down by Nato's capitalists]

  • @franceshasso1212
    @franceshasso12123 жыл бұрын

    Excellent interview and brilliant thinker. I wish you'd asked about environmental dimensions of policies, or the human-non-human nexus in Zambia.

  • @bluemoon7076
    @bluemoon707610 ай бұрын

    Zambia has the highest level of poverty and inequality , 40% extreme poverty . High level of illiteracy . No country can address these issues by applying capitalistic system …… but then , a former colony don’t actually be totally sovereign as the government is still attached to the colonial masters .

  • @kdchen6131
    @kdchen61313 жыл бұрын

    千万别被欧美忽悠瘸了!非洲的兄弟应该走自己的特色道路,因地制宜!

  • @sinekonata
    @sinekonata2 жыл бұрын

    Just brilliant and based as fuck.

  • @buravan1512
    @buravan15122 жыл бұрын

    *How can we call ourselves CAPITALISTS without any CAPITAL?* let's take care of our PEOPLE first, then our PEOPLE will take care of our CONTINENT. *#SOCIALPOWER*

  • @mathematicalgeek8657

    @mathematicalgeek8657

    Ай бұрын

    So you expect people to have capital when the man being interviewed will tax everyone to death with the goal of providing "free" stuff to poor people?

  • @jamesbanda7069
    @jamesbanda7069 Жыл бұрын

    Where has socialism or communism worked in the world?

  • @jackbarrowiii989
    @jackbarrowiii9899 ай бұрын

    Capitalism in Africa was never actualized. Because the economic and political system in which each country's trade and industry are controlled by arebrun by foreign powers instead of local private owners for profit.

  • @Prometheus659
    @Prometheus659 Жыл бұрын

    That’s why you are hungry

  • @micheldiaznocetti2873
    @micheldiaznocetti28733 жыл бұрын

    So he is not going to nationalize or tax them? ….. but he need to pay for the basic and work against corruption? With what leverage? Did I miss understood?

  • @micheldiaznocetti2873

    @micheldiaznocetti2873

    3 жыл бұрын

    Something is not quite right here….

  • @irisryu6437

    @irisryu6437

    3 жыл бұрын

    he said he would not nationalize the mining industry since the government do not have capacity to run them yet. He would try to tax them more instead. his priorities are on farming and education. To be honest, countries with weak farming industry would be greatly influenced by the global market and would be more vulnerable to outside influence. In addition, a poor education system would inevitably led to a weak government bureaucracy. He stressed the goal of eventually having all key industries socialized. In my opinion, even with the government capable of running these industry, nationalization policies can only really be implemented when the party has the support of the army. I doubt a new political party such as his would have any support from the country's army.

  • @petechapuswike9546

    @petechapuswike9546

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@irisryu6437 unlike in many African countries, our Zambian military is highly prefessional and non-partisan. We have changed governmemt 5 times and the Zambian Defense Forces have submitted to the new government each time. We hae never had the challenge of a new government facing resistance from the armed forces, so we have no reason to believe that our military will be a problem once the Socialist party wins the elections.

  • @bondbond611

    @bondbond611

    3 жыл бұрын

    He said there's no point to nationalise the existing mines bcos they don't have the expertise to run it and the lifespans of the exploited mines are only 8-40yrs left, so tax them more fairly to increase the gov income, then the gov will still have the say of the remaining 2/3rd of the unexploited mines. He is wise to say that and minimising the no. of his enemies.

  • @GlobalSouthObserver

    @GlobalSouthObserver

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bondbond611 I thought it's better to increase government ownership through increased stakes

  • @obeahman6286
    @obeahman6286 Жыл бұрын

    With the waining of the western economic system and it's associated military savagery, the debate for alternative political systems in Africa can be engaged. Democracy (western) does not solve all problems and these very short presidential periods opens the way for western manipulation.

  • @house2homeplus511
    @house2homeplus511 Жыл бұрын

    Christian socialism is the best form of government

  • @mathematicalgeek8657

    @mathematicalgeek8657

    Ай бұрын

    Christian and socialism are oxymoronic.

  • @jackbarrowiii989
    @jackbarrowiii9899 ай бұрын

    Capitalism in Zambia was never exercised by Zambians. Exploitation has been the effort.

  • @chroma._.5986

    @chroma._.5986

    9 ай бұрын

    ….which is a primary feature in capitalist african countries. okay

  • @benzarzour5512
    @benzarzour55123 жыл бұрын

    Boost

  • @EzraMerr
    @EzraMerr3 ай бұрын

    Zambia is the most successful Nation in Modern Africa.... thanksbto capitalism. The poverty is much lower and living cost is low where the wages are comparable to PPP avility to save every month

  • @donbrown2974
    @donbrown297410 ай бұрын

    :[" show map?"]

  • @RobertSinclair-xe3pt
    @RobertSinclair-xe3pt Жыл бұрын

    Is this lady presenter journalist is an American is this western media?

  • @tymanung6382
    @tymanung6382 Жыл бұрын

    Capitalism might succeed for its own profit = to fail peoples of Africa. Unfortunately, they are 2 sides of the same W capitalist coin.

  • @georgejesson1944
    @georgejesson19442 жыл бұрын

    If it's broke.. fix it

  • @mainzamweemba7526
    @mainzamweemba752611 ай бұрын

    Talk about LGBTQ

  • @lookcjt9085
    @lookcjt90852 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant economic logic, leave the countries Recourses in private ownership. Ummm.... i think someone is getting Rich, and it aint you guys

  • @SimonAshworthWood
    @SimonAshworthWood3 жыл бұрын

    Please also make some shorter videos (also). I am much more motivated to watch 5-15 minute videos than longer ones, and I bet many other people are, too.

  • @proteafire762

    @proteafire762

    3 жыл бұрын

    Speed the video times 1.5

  • @SimonAshworthWood

    @SimonAshworthWood

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@neilwilliams2883 I already almost always only listen to political videos. That doesn’t help.

  • @SimonAshworthWood

    @SimonAshworthWood

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@proteafire762 I’m not after advice. I made a request to the video makers. Many more people watch shorter videos. It’s a way to reach more people. I don’t want something all stressful to listen to because it’s very fast. I like relaxed talks. Goodness knows most people are already experiencing high stress. I want a summary of the knowledge so I can get more done in my life (e.g. so I can listen to all of the videos I want to listen to), not lots of padding with words not needed to prove the points made. (I used to do that to get the word count up in high school essays to meet arbitrary word count requirements - let’s not do it in professional journalism.) People can make both short summary videos for a wider audience and also longer videos for the smaller number of people who want a more in-depth coverage of an issue. It’s not rocket science. It’s a basic understanding of how to make media more successful.

  • @mirror452

    @mirror452

    3 жыл бұрын

    Shorter videos contain less information though... I get what you are saying, but perhaps we should try to work on ourselves instead. We will need as much information as possible, a revolution is not built with bite sized entertainment videos.

  • @cruyffssoul2397

    @cruyffssoul2397

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SimonAshworthWood That's all fair and good but honestly I'd prefer as much info as possible given to me in a video and so would many others. A good compromise would be that they could keep the length or shorten it a bit and others moreso AND timestamp. No offence to Zambia, but most people are not aware on what's going on there including myself. The more the info the better in this video. So it depends on the content itself.

  • @muckcitycane5143
    @muckcitycane5143Ай бұрын

    A socialist in Africa, what’s new. Lol

  • @ea.lowkey
    @ea.lowkey3 жыл бұрын

    Who should america send to help just kidding

  • @ea.lowkey

    @ea.lowkey

    3 жыл бұрын

    I liked the transition principle but that is a spectrum of relevance

  • @evandonghue2
    @evandonghue23 жыл бұрын

    I’m sure this will work. Since socialism has such a great historical track record of success. Derp...

  • @SuperChausette

    @SuperChausette

    3 жыл бұрын

    This but unironically ;)

  • @williamsakawa7433

    @williamsakawa7433

    3 жыл бұрын

    raising a billion people out of poverty in 30 years sounds successful to me

  • @youdontknowjoejo

    @youdontknowjoejo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well said by someone who can’t even describe socialism. And probably can’t even afford a year of university or a 1 bedroom apartment.

  • @shauncameron8390

    @shauncameron8390

    Жыл бұрын

    @@williamsakawa7433 Only after adopting some capitalist economic reforms and being host to US manufacturing jobs.

  • @chroma._.5986

    @chroma._.5986

    9 ай бұрын

    @@shauncameron8390false. but keep thinking you americans are the center of the universe 😂😂😂

  • @ibrahimmoss
    @ibrahimmoss3 жыл бұрын

    This broadcast segment raises some controversies. I wanted to get a different perspective. So, I sent it to two friends. One of whom follows Zambian politics. The other lives in Zambia. The first friend responded right away. She spoke only four words, “The Chinese Got Him”. From my side, I don’t see any socialist candidate. I see a capitalist who is merely seeking to install himself in national politics. That is all. He stands in direct opposition to nationalization of the only resource that the nation has to take itself out of poverty. This is important because Chinese interests are literally raping the nation of copper, while materially increasing the country’s debt obligation. These things are what has really caused the nation to become impoverished. For him to not stand in opposition to such is traitorous.

  • @ea.lowkey

    @ea.lowkey

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not a transition of local engineers supplies?

  • @MarcoCraveiroEGAS

    @MarcoCraveiroEGAS

    3 жыл бұрын

    What about the other friend?!

  • @petechapuswike9546

    @petechapuswike9546

    3 жыл бұрын

    That friend of yours you asked is either misinformed or a sympathizer of Zambia's biggest capitalist party which is anti-china but very pro-western. The Socialist party of Zambia has clearly explained in it's manifesto why they have no immediate plans to nationalize the mines. Mines in Zambia were nationalized before in the 1970s, govt failed to run them because it had no capacity. We have to learn from our past mistakes. The immediate priority of the Zambian socialist party is Agriculture which has the capacity to grow our economy within a short period of time and is more reliable than mining which depends on the copper prices at international markets. As we grow our Agriculture, will progressively invest in other important sectors especialy health and education, while building our mining capacity and eventually nationalize them. Besides 70% of Zambia's mining potential hasn't even been explored.

  • @Skkj0802

    @Skkj0802

    3 жыл бұрын

    You and your friends need to lay off the western propoganda.

  • @ryloforehead3687

    @ryloforehead3687

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@petechapuswike9546 very well said appreciate the perspective

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